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(Quartz)   Now that "Breaking Bad" is over, AMC looks to break good with another show   (qz.com) divider line 51
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2013-09-30 07:59:11 AM
FFS

No creativity

And shame on whoever greened this craptastic headline
 
2013-09-30 08:28:26 AM
I just don't see Better Call Saul being a hit. I think it will have a novelty appeal to Breaking Bad fans, but that novelty will wear off after a year.
 
2013-09-30 08:29:44 AM
Now, stay tuned for a preview of Breaking Sopranos Boardwalk Low Wire Shield Zombie Police.
 
2013-09-30 08:33:43 AM

stoli n coke: I just don't see Better Call Saul being a hit. I think it will have a novelty appeal to Breaking Bad fans, but that novelty will wear off after a year.


Its not going to be a full blown TV series.

Its a mini-series at its most, and to call it a miniseries may be stretching it
 
2013-09-30 08:35:20 AM
Unpopular opinion alert!
Before the last episode, Breaking Bad was an odds on favourite to surpass the Sopranos and the Wire to become the greatest series ever. After the last episode, it's merely in the conversation.
 
2013-09-30 08:36:18 AM
They could always have a spin off show, Breaking Fast with Walt. Jr.
 
2013-09-30 08:42:31 AM

stoli n coke: I just don't see Better Call Saul being a hit. I think it will have a novelty appeal to Breaking Bad fans, but that novelty will wear off after a year.


There is a gold mine of material there, especially if they can capture the moments during Breaking Bad like keeping Huell happy.
 
2013-09-30 08:59:37 AM
Breaking Bad opened doors for everyone who worked on it and starred in it. If we want a show as good as BB, I would want the same cinematography team, editing team, writing team, etc. That won't happen though because they've all moved on. It won't be as good as BB and they'll probably get someone else to play Huell and Kuby
 
2013-09-30 09:06:43 AM

HotIgneous Intruder: Now, stay tuned for a preview of Breaking Sopranos Boardwalk Low Wire Shield Zombie Police.


Given that The Walking Dead is AMC's highest rated show a spinoff should happen.
 
2013-09-30 09:08:50 AM
It will be like Hell on Wheels, a good show with a very narrow appeal. What could be a really interesting show would be a period piece set in late 70s early 80s Miami about the cocaine cowboys, the guys who made a fortune transporting the coke from Columbia to Florida.  The real life stories are unbelievable
 
2013-09-30 09:10:25 AM
Huell Be Sorry

Meet Huell Babineaux, his wacky boss Saul, crazy neighbors Walt and Jesse and loving family. This week: Huell plays a practical joke on Jesse with tragic consequences.
 
2013-09-30 09:10:33 AM

cman: stoli n coke: I just don't see Better Call Saul being a hit. I think it will have a novelty appeal to Breaking Bad fans, but that novelty will wear off after a year.

Its not going to be a full blown TV series.

Its a mini-series at its most, and to call it a miniseries may be stretching it


I think you're seriously underestimating the combined dramedy potential of Bob Odenkirk, Lavell Crawford, Bill Burr, Skinny Pete and Badger, and maybe a few other gems from Breaking Bad.  I would watch the hell out of that show every week.

It's not nostalgia if you want to watch more stories involving characters from a previous show if you actually like those characters.  That's called "connecting with a character".
 
2013-09-30 09:16:08 AM

Tom_Slick: It will be like Hell on Wheels, a good show with a very narrow appeal. What could be a really interesting show would be a period piece set in late 70s early 80s Miami about the cocaine cowboys, the guys who made a fortune transporting the coke from Columbia to Florida.  The real life stories are unbelievable


HBO already has dibs on Cocaine Cowboys.
Unfortunately, one of the men attached to the project has a name that rhymes with Michael Bay.

http://www.deadline.com/2011/03/michelle-ashford-to-write-hbo-drama- co caine-cowboys-produced-by-jerry-bruckheimer-and-michael-bay/
 
2013-09-30 09:19:53 AM

stoli n coke: Tom_Slick: It will be like Hell on Wheels, a good show with a very narrow appeal. What could be a really interesting show would be a period piece set in late 70s early 80s Miami about the cocaine cowboys, the guys who made a fortune transporting the coke from Columbia to Florida.  The real life stories are unbelievable

HBO already has dibs on Cocaine Cowboys.
Unfortunately, one of the men attached to the project has a name that rhymes with Michael Bay.

http://www.deadline.com/2011/03/michelle-ashford-to-write-hbo-drama- co caine-cowboys-produced-by-jerry-bruckheimer-and-michael-bay/


And it looks stalled, damnitsomuch that is a great story that could make for a wonderful TV series.
 
2013-09-30 09:24:15 AM
Djesse Unchained?
 
2013-09-30 09:25:58 AM

Tom_Slick: stoli n coke: Tom_Slick: It will be like Hell on Wheels, a good show with a very narrow appeal. What could be a really interesting show would be a period piece set in late 70s early 80s Miami about the cocaine cowboys, the guys who made a fortune transporting the coke from Columbia to Florida.  The real life stories are unbelievable

HBO already has dibs on Cocaine Cowboys.
Unfortunately, one of the men attached to the project has a name that rhymes with Michael Bay.

http://www.deadline.com/2011/03/michelle-ashford-to-write-hbo-drama- co caine-cowboys-produced-by-jerry-bruckheimer-and-michael-bay/

And it looks stalled, damnitsomuch that is a great story that could make for a wonderful TV series.



My guess is, it stalled because of money. Between Boardwalk Empire, Game of Thrones, and that new series with Matthew McConaguey and Woody Harrelson, HBO may not want or can't afford another big budget period series at this time.

However, maybe True Blood ending will free up some cash.
 
2013-09-30 09:26:57 AM
I love that the final scene of the series was Walt saying "Well that broke rather badly."
 
2013-09-30 09:28:20 AM

Beer cap: Saul is only good in small doses. The only way a show with him does well is if the focus is on the criminals he represents.


I agree.  Zany one-liners can only work for so long...
 
2013-09-30 09:33:01 AM

RumsfeldsReplacement: Beer cap: Saul is only good in small doses. The only way a show with him does well is if the focus is on the criminals he represents.

I agree.  Zany one-liners can only work for so long...


I think the show is going to be more ensemble rather than exclusively about Saul.  Of course the whole "one-liner" thing may be because we've been seeing Saul mostly when he's in the shiat and trying to paddle out frantically.  Walt and Jesse never really showed up with routine work for him to do.

Also, I don't really have the "small doses" issue with Huell or Kuby, and I can't imagine a good Saul show not featuring either of them.  Intersperse some Saul with a layer of Huell and Kuby, minimum, and it would stretch things out nicely.
 
2013-09-30 10:20:50 AM
Maybe being short on shows will make sure AMC doesnt cancel Hell on Wheels. Love that show, despite it being banished to Saturday night.
 
2013-09-30 10:27:23 AM

yukichigai: cman: stoli n coke: I just don't see Better Call Saul being a hit. I think it will have a novelty appeal to Breaking Bad fans, but that novelty will wear off after a year.

Its not going to be a full blown TV series.

Its a mini-series at its most, and to call it a miniseries may be stretching it

I think you're seriously underestimating the combined dramedy potential of Bob Odenkirk, Lavell Crawford, Bill Burr, Skinny Pete and Badger, and maybe a few other gems from Breaking Bad.  I would watch the hell out of that show every week.

It's not nostalgia if you want to watch more stories involving characters from a previous show if you actually like those characters.  That's called "connecting with a character".


I would watch it, too. But from what AMC has said its not going to be a full time TV show.

/Still wishes The Wire creator would create a show with Brother Mouzone as the main character
 
2013-09-30 10:33:59 AM
How about a show where Sauls former bodyguard opens a rollerskating facility? It's called Huell On Wheels
 
2013-09-30 10:49:48 AM
I enjoyed the hell out of Breaking bad, but the handwringing in TFA seems a bit overwrought.  Just compare these two quotes:

"[Breaking Bad finale] is expected to easily top last week's episode, which drew

"it stuck gold with its zombie drama The Walking Dead, which is a blockbuster hit (last season's finale drew 12.4 million viewers) "

So in short, the premise of TFA is disproved by the contents of TFA.  That's some great writing there, Mr. Lynch.
 
2013-09-30 10:52:03 AM

yukichigai: cman: stoli n coke: I just don't see Better Call Saul being a hit. I think it will have a novelty appeal to Breaking Bad fans, but that novelty will wear off after a year.

Its not going to be a full blown TV series.

Its a mini-series at its most, and to call it a miniseries may be stretching it

I think you're seriously underestimating the combined dramedy potential of Bob Odenkirk, Lavell Crawford, Bill Burr, Skinny Pete and Badger, and maybe a few other gems from Breaking Bad.  I would watch the hell out of that show every week.

It's not nostalgia if you want to watch more stories involving characters from a previous show if you actually like those characters.  That's called "connecting with a character".


It's supposed to be a prequel, so I don't see how they get Skinny Pete and Badger involved in anything other than little cameos.
 
2013-09-30 11:04:18 AM

TeamEd: Unpopular opinion alert!
Before the last episode, Breaking Bad was an odds on favourite to surpass the Sopranos and the Wire to become the greatest series ever. After the last episode, it's merely in the conversation.


Probably also unpopular opinion alert, but I thought season 5 of the wire was easily the worst one and ended the show with a wet thud, when we re-watched it over the summer we just stopped at 4. The serial killer stuff was pretty bad (didn't like Hamsterdam arc either).

IMO BB easily tops the Wire for that reason and I thought the BB finale was perfect, but I haven't seen Sopranos and my personal favorite drama show is still Deadwood which didn't even have a finale really. It's gonna be tough to beat DW in my book, but that has more to do with the aesthetics that appeal to me than cinematography or writing or whatever.
 
2013-09-30 11:25:14 AM
Well, it is hard to top the best thing you've ever produced.  It took something like 5 seasons for people to realize that the real gem on AMC was Breaking Bad, not Mad Men, but I'm glad that it's finally been recognized.

Anyways, back on topic, SciFi will never top BSG, HBO has a chance to top the Sopranos with Game of Thrones, but only if Martin manages to a) finish the series and b) improve on his rather pedestrian efforts on books 4 and 5, FX will never top the Shield, NBC will never top Seinfeld, and Comedy Central will never top It's Always Sunny.
 
2013-09-30 11:27:26 AM
I know I'm one of the FEW on here that like this show, but I can't WAIT for the next season of:


i.imgur.com
 
2013-09-30 11:28:13 AM

bhcompy: Well, it is hard to top the best thing you've ever produced.  It took something like 5 seasons for people to realize that the real gem on AMC was Breaking Bad, not Mad Men, but I'm glad that it's finally been recognized.

Anyways, back on topic, SciFi will never top BSG, HBO has a chance to top the Sopranos with Game of Thrones, but only if Martin manages to a) finish the series and b) improve on his rather pedestrian efforts on books 4 and 5, FX will never top the Shield, NBC will never top Seinfeld, and Comedy Central will never top It's Always Sunny.


Always Sunny is an FX (now FXX) show that Comedy Central had in syndication for a while.  The gold standard for Comedy Central is and always will be South Park, of course.  (Even though I'm finally admitting that it's past its sell-by date.)
 
2013-09-30 11:29:49 AM

Super Chronic: bhcompy: Well, it is hard to top the best thing you've ever produced.  It took something like 5 seasons for people to realize that the real gem on AMC was Breaking Bad, not Mad Men, but I'm glad that it's finally been recognized.

Anyways, back on topic, SciFi will never top BSG, HBO has a chance to top the Sopranos with Game of Thrones, but only if Martin manages to a) finish the series and b) improve on his rather pedestrian efforts on books 4 and 5, FX will never top the Shield, NBC will never top Seinfeld, and Comedy Central will never top It's Always Sunny.

Always Sunny is an FX (now FXX) show that Comedy Central had in syndication for a while.  The gold standard for Comedy Central is and always will be South Park, of course.  (Even though I'm finally admitting that it's past its sell-by date.)


Oops, messed that one up.  Forgive me Super Chronic, for I have sinned.

/and yes South Park, but it's in Simpsons territory with outliving itself, and I don't like saying "anything before Season x"
 
2013-09-30 11:37:41 AM
If they had just made the Larsen case one goddamn season The Killing might still be here.

Season 3 was awesome, Peter Saarsard was phenomenal.
 
2013-09-30 11:41:52 AM

Super Chronic: bhcompy: Well, it is hard to top the best thing you've ever produced.  It took something like 5 seasons for people to realize that the real gem on AMC was Breaking Bad, not Mad Men, but I'm glad that it's finally been recognized.

Anyways, back on topic, SciFi will never top BSG, HBO has a chance to top the Sopranos with Game of Thrones, but only if Martin manages to a) finish the series and b) improve on his rather pedestrian efforts on books 4 and 5, FX will never top the Shield, NBC will never top Seinfeld, and Comedy Central will never top It's Always Sunny.

Always Sunny is an FX (now FXX) show that Comedy Central had in syndication for a while.  The gold standard for Comedy Central is and always will be South Park, of course.  (Even though I'm finally admitting that it's past its sell-by date.)


^This
I was slow to catch on to "always sunny" but I cant resist it's wackiness, no matter how hard I try

and I agree, "South Park" is wayy past its prime. But, I might be biased because I am such a huge "The Boondocks" fan, lol!
 
2013-09-30 11:42:26 AM
I can't wait 'til next week when Fark greenlights this headline again.
 
2013-09-30 11:48:29 AM

bhcompy: Well, it is hard to top the best thing you've ever produced.  It took something like 5 seasons for people to realize that the real gem on AMC was Breaking Bad, not Mad Men, but I'm glad that it's finally been recognized.

Anyways, back on topic, SciFi will never top BSG, HBO has a chance to top the Sopranos with Game of Thrones, but only if Martin manages to a) finish the series and b) improve on his rather pedestrian efforts on books 4 and 5, FX will never top the Shield, NBC will never top Seinfeld, and Comedy Central will never top It's Always Sunny.



If the last 2 books are any indication, Game of Thrones might be better off if the showrunners just take Martin's notes and finish it up for him.

Martin reminds me a lot of Michael Douglas' character in Wonder Boys, an author who's well over 2-thousand pages into a single book, who just keeps adding subplot after subplot because he doesn't want to admit that he doesn't know how to end it.
 
2013-09-30 11:56:30 AM

stoli n coke: bhcompy: Well, it is hard to top the best thing you've ever produced.  It took something like 5 seasons for people to realize that the real gem on AMC was Breaking Bad, not Mad Men, but I'm glad that it's finally been recognized.

Anyways, back on topic, SciFi will never top BSG, HBO has a chance to top the Sopranos with Game of Thrones, but only if Martin manages to a) finish the series and b) improve on his rather pedestrian efforts on books 4 and 5, FX will never top the Shield, NBC will never top Seinfeld, and Comedy Central will never top It's Always Sunny.


If the last 2 books are any indication, Game of Thrones might be better off if the showrunners just take Martin's notes and finish it up for him.

Martin reminds me a lot of Michael Douglas' character in Wonder Boys, an author who's well over 2-thousand pages into a single book, who just keeps adding subplot after subplot because he doesn't want to admit that he doesn't know how to end it.


I don't watch Game of Thrones but that sounds a lot like the last couple seasons of Lost.
 
2013-09-30 12:07:33 PM

Super Chronic: yukichigai: cman: stoli n coke: I just don't see Better Call Saul being a hit. I think it will have a novelty appeal to Breaking Bad fans, but that novelty will wear off after a year.

Its not going to be a full blown TV series.

Its a mini-series at its most, and to call it a miniseries may be stretching it

I think you're seriously underestimating the combined dramedy potential of Bob Odenkirk, Lavell Crawford, Bill Burr, Skinny Pete and Badger, and maybe a few other gems from Breaking Bad.  I would watch the hell out of that show every week.

It's not nostalgia if you want to watch more stories involving characters from a previous show if you actually like those characters.  That's called "connecting with a character".

It's supposed to be a prequel, so I don't see how they get Skinny Pete and Badger involved in anything other than little cameos.


Peter and Badger will be in a lot of the episodes.

Jesse mentions that Saul is who his friends use all the time in the first season when he's taking Walt there.
 
2013-09-30 12:08:47 PM

Picklefrog: I can't wait 'til next week when Fark greenlights this headline again.


I can't wait until another noob shows up and tells Fark how it should be run, that's just the best
 
2013-09-30 12:11:49 PM
Has anyone seen Hell on Wheels? Is it any good? The cover image on Netflix makes it look sort of westernish / sort of Sons of Anarchyish.
 
2013-09-30 12:13:56 PM
They got Low Winter Sun, what else could they possibly want?
 
2013-09-30 12:29:17 PM

stoli n coke: If the last 2 books are any indication, Game of Thrones might be better off if the showrunners just take Martin's notes and finish it up for him.


Watching Dany play SimCity over the course of two seasons is going to be AWESOME!!
 
2013-09-30 12:29:55 PM

libranoelrose: Super Chronic: yukichigai: cman: stoli n coke: I just don't see Better Call Saul being a hit. I think it will have a novelty appeal to Breaking Bad fans, but that novelty will wear off after a year.

Its not going to be a full blown TV series.

Its a mini-series at its most, and to call it a miniseries may be stretching it

I think you're seriously underestimating the combined dramedy potential of Bob Odenkirk, Lavell Crawford, Bill Burr, Skinny Pete and Badger, and maybe a few other gems from Breaking Bad.  I would watch the hell out of that show every week.

It's not nostalgia if you want to watch more stories involving characters from a previous show if you actually like those characters.  That's called "connecting with a character".

It's supposed to be a prequel, so I don't see how they get Skinny Pete and Badger involved in anything other than little cameos.

Peter and Badger will be in a lot of the episodes.

Jesse mentions that Saul is who his friends use all the time in the first season when he's taking Walt there.


But wait.  Saul is actually first introduced to the show as the guy who gets hired out of nowhere to represent Badger, and for the longest time can't remember who this Brandon Mayhew character is (mixing him up in the intro scene with another dodgy client).  Or am I misremembering?
 
2013-09-30 12:30:07 PM

Tommy Moo: Has anyone seen Hell on Wheels? Is it any good? The cover image on Netflix makes it look sort of westernish / sort of Sons of Anarchyish.


I enjoy Hell on Wheels. Good show, seems accurate to timeperiod. The fun part is watching it with my 11yo son, while he is studying American History. It reminds me a bit of a Thieves World novel.
 
2013-09-30 12:38:24 PM

Tommy Moo: Has anyone seen Hell on Wheels? Is it any good? The cover image on Netflix makes it look sort of westernish / sort of Sons of Anarchyish.


Hell on Wheels is very good IMO, takes a while to get going, but worth it.

AMC needs another hit, after Mad Men, Walking Dead, Hell on Wheels and of course Breaking bad, i give any scripted show of theirs a chance, Rubicon was good but plodding, the Killing was just frustrating, especially after three seasons, especially when you cant stand a single character on the show, Broadchurch was better, not just because of Tennant. Havent watched Low Winter Sun yet, but ive heard mixed things... Turn looks intriguing and i guess theyve got some dystopian scifi show in the works, which will probably be good, but we need a new space opera damnit.

Just started Copper on recommendation of a friend and Netflix, likin the first five minutes so far.
 
2013-09-30 12:41:56 PM

Tommy Moo: Has anyone seen Hell on Wheels? Is it any good? The cover image on Netflix makes it look sort of westernish / sort of Sons of Anarchyish.


The characters are more interesting than the plot but it's a fun show. The first two seasons are on Netflix so if you cram(14 hrs) you can be ready for the third season marathon and finale this Saturday.
 
2013-09-30 01:56:43 PM
This current season of Hell On Wheels just doesn't have "it" right now. Too many shake ups for the sake of shaking up, not b/c what they had was broken, and definitely not b/c what they want is any good. And for crying out loud, bringing back the Swede? Gimme a break. Lots of problems. And Colm Meaney is much more fun as the bad guy in charge. When he's scrounging around on the outside trying to weasel back in, it's just not as believable, and not as fun.
 
2013-09-30 02:22:24 PM

libranoelrose: Picklefrog: I can't wait 'til next week when Fark greenlights this headline again.

I can't wait until another noob shows up and tells Fark how it should be run, that's just the best


Not a noob, just finally got fed up reading the same chit get greenlighted every week. That's the best.
 
2013-09-30 02:25:20 PM

Picklefrog: libranoelrose: Picklefrog: I can't wait 'til next week when Fark greenlights this headline again.

I can't wait until another noob shows up and tells Fark how it should be run, that's just the best

Not a noob, just finally got fed up reading the same chit get greenlighted every week. That's the best.


Where you do live? I'll send someone over and get the person to stop holding a gun to your head and forcing you to not only read fark but click on and comment in repeat articles. You are like a real life Jesse Pinkman you poor soul.
 
2013-09-30 02:34:58 PM
I think a better show would be one where Saul manages a Cinnabon in Nebraska
 
2013-09-30 03:34:39 PM

Carth: I'll send someone over and get the person to stop holding a gun to your head and forcing you to not only read fark but click on and comment in repeat articles


"Huell are you happy?"
 
2013-09-30 06:36:20 PM
I'm on board for Better Call Saul.

Although it's too bad for AMC that they didn't get Darabont's Mob City, which is premiering on TNT. Trailer here. It's like L.A. Noire the TV show.
 
2013-09-30 08:19:53 PM

libranoelrose: Peter and Badger will be in a lot of the episodes.

Jesse mentions that Saul is who his friends use all the time in the first season when he's taking Walt there.


Yep!  It also raises the possibility that Combo will make a reappearance, too.  Not that he was particularly hilarious or anything, but I did always feel bad that he got cut down, especially since he was a local guy who jumped from "chubby stoner extra" to "named person whose death affects the plot of a whole season."

Super Chronic: But wait. Saul is actually first introduced to the show as the guy who gets hired out of nowhere to represent Badger, and for the longest time can't remember who this Brandon Mayhew character is (mixing him up in the intro scene with another dodgy client). Or am I misremembering?


Doesn't mean he hasn't served as Badger's attorney multiple times before.  Actually, that could be a rather amusing running gag: Badger shows up somewhat frequently, and every time Saul remembers a completely different client.  He would, of course, remember Skinny Pete perfectly.
 
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