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2013-09-29 11:51:37 PM
Spoiler alert. It's the entire episode.
 
2013-09-29 11:55:31 PM
It was good, but the best ever?

That is different

It was your average Breaking Bad episode. Its hard to have the best episode ever when you have risen the bar that high
 
2013-09-29 11:58:27 PM

cman: It was good, but the best ever?

That is different

It was your average Breaking Bad episode. Its hard to have the best episode ever when you have risen the bar that high


I'd say the true finale came with the last two episodes.

This was just mopping up and turning off the lights.
 
2013-09-29 11:59:30 PM

Shostie: cman: It was good, but the best ever?

That is different

It was your average Breaking Bad episode. Its hard to have the best episode ever when you have risen the bar that high

I'd say the true finale came with the last two episodes.

This was just mopping up and turning off the lights.


I was glad to see that awful Stevia biatch die.
 
2013-09-30 12:12:51 AM
They tied their shoes and walked out the door. Pristine ending, just like the Lydia biatch said.
 
2013-09-30 12:24:46 AM
My only issue - the Stevia thing didn't make sense. How and when did he put ricin inside the Stevia packet? How did he know she'd sit at that table; just last week she'd sat at a different one. Why did he need to tell her what he did - now that she knows, can't she get treatment? Sloppy.

Otherwise - absolutely great.
 
2013-09-30 12:30:45 AM
It's precisely this type of overhyped, breathless article that made me never watch the show to begin with.
 
2013-09-30 12:33:21 AM

DamnYankees: My only issue - the Stevia thing didn't make sense. How and when did he put ricin inside the Stevia packet? How did he know she'd sit at that table; just last week she'd sat at a different one. Why did he need to tell her what he did - now that she knows, can't she get treatment? Sloppy.


Jesus, we were just discussing this in the live thread. Lydia and Walt ALWAYS sat at that table at 10 AM. She ALWAYS ordered chamomile tea with Stevia as she a creature of habit. Walt surely put the ricin in a packet before he entered the restaurant; he would have time to glue it up and make it look normal. It was the only packet on the table. Walt surely took care of that before Lydia showed up as well.

That's not sloppy writing; that's sloppy viewing on your part.
 
2013-09-30 12:34:26 AM
The show has always assumed you can put together the pieces, you know. It would have been lame to actually show Walter poisoning the Stevia.
 
2013-09-30 12:35:09 AM

cameroncrazy1984: It's precisely this type of overhyped, breathless article that made me never watch the show to begin with.


It's really a great show. Try it on Netflix. I don't recommend a lot of stuff. This show delivers.
 
2013-09-30 12:35:56 AM

Confabulat: Lydia and Walt ALWAYS sat at that table at 10 AM.


She sat at a different table LAST WEEK! Seriously - just last week when she met Todd, they both sat at tables next to the window. The table in tonight's episode was a different table, not next to the window. I literally watched both episodes today, so unless I'm hallucinating, you're wrong.
 
2013-09-30 12:36:40 AM

Confabulat: The show has always assumed you can put together the pieces, you know. It would have been lame to actually show Walter poisoning the Stevia.


I actually thought it was sort of lame that they tipped it off as much as they did - the anvillicious shot of her putting in the Stevia, and him telling her on the phone. All we needed to see was her sick on the phone; no need to mention anything else.
 
2013-09-30 12:38:00 AM

DamnYankees: She sat at a different table LAST WEEK! Seriously - just last week when she met Todd, they both sat at tables next to the window. The table in tonight's episode was a different table, not next to the window. I literally watched both episodes today, so unless I'm hallucinating, you're wrong.


You may be right about that, I can't remember. If so, it wouldn't be the first mistake the writers have made (the Nazis referencing Bin Laden being killed when the show occurs around 2009 being another).
 
2013-09-30 12:38:37 AM

DamnYankees: Confabulat: Lydia and Walt ALWAYS sat at that table at 10 AM.

She sat at a different table LAST WEEK! Seriously - just last week when she met Todd, they both sat at tables next to the window. The table in tonight's episode was a different table, not next to the window. I literally watched both episodes today, so unless I'm hallucinating, you're wrong.


You're both the prettiest!

heh... I love that the show makes you think and it creates a lot of really good dialogue among the fans. If more shows treated their audience as intelligent... well that sh*t ain't gonna happen in my lifetime.
 
2013-09-30 12:38:41 AM

Confabulat: You may be right about that, I can't remember. If so, it wouldn't be the first mistake the writers have made (the Nazis referencing Bin Laden being killed when the show occurs around 2009 being another).


I'll take that as an apology for your condescending post above then.
 
2013-09-30 12:39:47 AM

DamnYankees: Confabulat: You may be right about that, I can't remember. If so, it wouldn't be the first mistake the writers have made (the Nazis referencing Bin Laden being killed when the show occurs around 2009 being another).

I'll take that as an apology for your condescending post above then.


Hell no.
 
2013-09-30 12:41:43 AM

cameroncrazy1984: It's precisely this type of overhyped, breathless article that made me never watch the show to begin with.


Eh, its not for everyone
 
2013-09-30 12:42:50 AM
I also do wish we had a little more emotional resolution for Jesse. All that happens is that he's set free, but he still has absolutely nothing in his life, Andrea is still dead, and he's emotionally tortured. Jesse didn't get a denoument - he'll probably die of drug overdose within a few months.
 
2013-09-30 12:44:47 AM

DamnYankees: I also do wish we had a little more emotional resolution for Jesse. All that happens is that he's set free, but he still has absolutely nothing in his life, Andrea is still dead, and he's emotionally tortured. Jesse didn't get a denoument - he'll probably die of drug overdose within a few months.


I doubt that

After everything he went through I think Jesse would be done with the drug life

If he does drugs, it would just be weed
 
2013-09-30 12:45:35 AM

DamnYankees: I also do wish we had a little more emotional resolution for Jesse. All that happens is that he's set free, but he still has absolutely nothing in his life, Andrea is still dead, and he's emotionally tortured. Jesse didn't get a denoument - he'll probably die of drug overdose within a few months.


Well they could have shown him becoming a lumberjack.
 
2013-09-30 12:45:55 AM

cman: DamnYankees: I also do wish we had a little more emotional resolution for Jesse. All that happens is that he's set free, but he still has absolutely nothing in his life, Andrea is still dead, and he's emotionally tortured. Jesse didn't get a denoument - he'll probably die of drug overdose within a few months.

I doubt that

After everything he went through I think Jesse would be done with the drug life

If he does drugs, it would just be weed


I just think he'll commit suicide. Dude has crazy PTSD, insane guilt, no money, no education and no support system. There's no light at the end of that tunnel.
 
2013-09-30 12:47:23 AM

DamnYankees: cman: DamnYankees: I also do wish we had a little more emotional resolution for Jesse. All that happens is that he's set free, but he still has absolutely nothing in his life, Andrea is still dead, and he's emotionally tortured. Jesse didn't get a denoument - he'll probably die of drug overdose within a few months.

I doubt that

After everything he went through I think Jesse would be done with the drug life

If he does drugs, it would just be weed

I just think he'll commit suicide. Dude has crazy PTSD, insane guilt, no money, no education and no support system. There's no light at the end of that tunnel.


He still has his family and his two dumbass friends. After what he went though it seems to reason that he would try to reconcile with his family as a support system.

But yeah, mentally he is pretty farked
 
2013-09-30 12:47:28 AM

DamnYankees: I just think he'll commit suicide. Dude has crazy PTSD, insane guilt, no money, no education and no support system. There's no light at the end of that tunnel.


I was always shocked he didn't get stabbed to death at one of his parties.
 
2013-09-30 12:48:13 AM

cman: He still has his family and his two dumbass friends.


His family? They hate him and have disowned him. And if you think he's gonna rely on Badger and whathisface for support, well, I disagree.
 
2013-09-30 12:59:13 AM
I liked the fact that he woke up in bed with his wife, Emily, and realized that the whole show was just a weird dream.
 
2013-09-30 01:26:42 AM

DamnYankees: cman: He still has his family and his two dumbass friends.

His family? They hate him and have disowned him. And if you think he's gonna rely on Badger and whathisface for support, well, I disagree.


You could be right

We shall never know
 
2013-09-30 01:35:14 AM

DamnYankees: cman: He still has his family and his two dumbass friends.

His family? They hate him and have disowned him. And if you think he's gonna rely on Badger and whathisface for support, well, I disagree.


The Badger maims, but he does not kill.
 
2013-09-30 01:37:16 AM
I'll admit, I cried when they sang, "It's a long way to Tipperary."
 
2013-09-30 01:42:47 AM

cameroncrazy1984: It's precisely this type of overhyped, breathless article that made me never watch the show to begin with.


Give it a shot. Everyone I've convinced to watch the show has become a huge fan. It just delivers and twists and leaves you going HOLY FARK. It is amazing television.
 
2013-09-30 01:52:18 AM

cman: DamnYankees: I also do wish we had a little more emotional resolution for Jesse. All that happens is that he's set free, but he still has absolutely nothing in his life, Andrea is still dead, and he's emotionally tortured. Jesse didn't get a denoument - he'll probably die of drug overdose within a few months.


I like to think that he ends up a woodworker in Alaska, with his adopted son Brock by his side.
 
2013-09-30 07:31:59 AM

DamnYankees: My only issue - the Stevia thing didn't make sense. How and when did he put ricin inside the Stevia packet? How did he know she'd sit at that table; just last week she'd sat at a different one. Why did he need to tell her what he did - now that she knows, can't she get treatment? Sloppy.

Otherwise - absolutely great.


I'm not 100% sure, but I think ricin poisoning is a one-way ticket. I don't think there's anything that can be done for the victim.
 
2013-09-30 07:41:20 AM

cameroncrazy1984: It's precisely this type of overhyped, breathless article that made me never watch the show to begin with.


Well maybe if you would have liked it before everyone else caught on you could have enjoyed one of the best shows ever on TV. It's important though that you let hipster dogma govern your decision making, thank god for articles like this otherwise you missed out on your irrational backlash.
 
2013-09-30 07:43:03 AM
Yo.
 
2013-09-30 07:48:03 AM
It was a good, satisfying ending to the show, but "best ever" is a bit of a stretch. It'll need a few months for the newness to wear off to see how it shapes up in comparisons to great shows past.

Right now, I still think The Shield had the best finale of the last 10 years.
 
2013-09-30 07:52:32 AM

DamnYankees: Confabulat: Lydia and Walt ALWAYS sat at that table at 10 AM.

She sat at a different table LAST WEEK! Seriously - just last week when she met Todd, they both sat at tables next to the window. The table in tonight's episode was a different table, not next to the window. I literally watched both episodes today, so unless I'm hallucinating, you're wrong.


It was pretty clear since her character was introduced that she had two different meeting places. She had one that she met at when she first started working with a person, and another that she met at once she was comfortable with them. The place she was poisoned at was the place where she use to meet Mike. Once Walt became her contact she started meeting Walt at the first place and once she was comfortable with him she started meeting him at the place she was poisoned at. Once Walt left and Todd became the contact she started meeting him at the first place and then after she became comfortable with him she started meeting him at the place she was poisoned at. You have to remember that Lydia was a paranoid OCD person who insisted on back to back meetings at out of the way places until she was comfortable with a person, then she would meet face to face with them at a regular time in a regular place.
 
2013-09-30 07:53:19 AM

DamnYankees: Confabulat: Lydia and Walt ALWAYS sat at that table at 10 AM.

She sat at a different table LAST WEEK! Seriously - just last week when she met Todd, they both sat at tables next to the window. The table in tonight's episode was a different table, not next to the window. I literally watched both episodes today, so unless I'm hallucinating, you're wrong.



Did Walt know she switched tables LAST WEEK?! I doubt it. He took a gamble based on his knowledge of her routines taken from weekly meetings over a year's time. Turns out, his gamble was correct.

Plus, he could have also palmed the Stevia packet and then switched it out with the other one during his coughing fit, while they were distracted. It would not be the first time that vial of ricin was subject to slight of hand.

Glad they didn't include the scene of Jesse in his cell playing a xylophone.  I heard he struck the same chord, but two distinctly different tones came out. I heard someone got fired for that blunder.
 
2013-09-30 07:54:43 AM

DamnYankees: Confabulat: Lydia and Walt ALWAYS sat at that table at 10 AM.

She sat at a different table LAST WEEK! Seriously - just last week when she met Todd, they both sat at tables next to the window. The table in tonight's episode was a different table, not next to the window. I literally watched both episodes today, so unless I'm hallucinating, you're wrong.


No, it's the same table.  You can watch her walk in and sit down by the window at the same table as always at the start of the scene.  They just shot it from the opposite side of the table than they usually do, so that rather than looking out, you're looking in and can see Walt come and sit.
 
2013-09-30 07:57:26 AM
Pizza is the best, most delicious food ever created by man. So never try pizza because only my statement has overhyped how good pizza is.
 
2013-09-30 07:57:37 AM

cameroncrazy1984: It's precisely this type of overhyped, breathless article that made me never watch the show to begin with.


Sure as hell hasn't kept you from biatching in every Breaking Bad thread. Seriously, no one cares that you haven't watched the show.
 
2013-09-30 07:59:30 AM
Ozymandias was the episode that the other finales should be compared to. The last two episodes were just a fantastic slow-burn of tension.
 
2013-09-30 08:00:32 AM
Question about the tables. She showed up first this time, and Todd sat at her table. When she went to the diner the previous week, Todd was already there, and she didn't want to be seen talking with him that time, which is why she might have taken one table over.

Can't remember the earlier episodes where she and Walt met, though.
 
2013-09-30 08:01:25 AM
D'oh, forgot to ask the damn question. Can anybody check the other times she met Walt?
 
2013-09-30 08:03:59 AM
M*A*S*H
 
2013-09-30 08:06:45 AM

Beer cap: cameroncrazy1984: It's precisely this type of overhyped, breathless article that made me never watch the show to begin with.

You miss out on a lot of good things if you look for silly reasons to not take them in.


I don't see the point of going into a long thread that's about something you don't like and blindly bi*ching about it. I mean, I could go into a wrestling or brony thread and go, "man, I just don't get this, and you people are weird," but it's going to fall on deaf ears. Why bother? Likewise, if you're a fan and think that the show has gone in the wrong direction and are willing to defend that by offering up a better alternative, it's one thing, but complaining without a solution is just toothless.
 
2013-09-30 08:06:52 AM

SurfaceTension: M*A*S*H


MASH is too old to fit into the so-called "Modern Golden Age..." which is pretty much TV shows that started after the Sopranos.
 
2013-09-30 08:08:55 AM
Over the top but I enjoyed it
 
2013-09-30 08:15:45 AM
I'm glad they ended it the way they did, was very much in the style of the rest of the show.  They didn't try to make it the most awesomest finale ever, they didn't cater to fans wills, they stayed true to the story that they wanted and ended it in such a way as to tie pretty much everything up.  If they had gone for something crazier and more intense than the previous couple of episodes it could have easily been a failure.

And my take is being kept as a meth slave for 6 months probably cured Jessie of his not having his shiat together.  Sure he'll be messed up, but his life won't be the train wreck it was.
 
2013-09-30 08:15:48 AM
I'm just glad we got a straight ending.

No early cancelation with unresolved plots and a hasty conclusion, no "it was all a dream" or other bullsh*t, no WTF last minute twists, nothing that didn't make any more or less sense than the rest of the series, no shift in tone, no speeches, no real "hero shots" ... just an ending that's as much a part of the show as anything deep in the third season.

For me, the satisfaction of the finale isn't just that it was good, but that it was the rarest thing on scripted TV: a proper ending.
 
2013-09-30 08:20:29 AM
It was a really satisfying ending. It wrapped up most of the questions people had and was a pretty happy ending for the show but it wasn't even close to the best ending of a tv show. We've just gotten so used to crappy endings over the past few years that people were amazed BB pulled off something good.
 
2013-09-30 08:23:47 AM

cameroncrazy1984: It's precisely this type of overhyped, breathless article that made me never watch the show to begin with.




I've been watching it this weekend with the wife. She's a huge fan of it. I personally think it is overrated. It's ok but not oh my god good. It's best if you ingore the cancer and taking care of his family premise. Look at it as someone who's always had to hold back his true nature. The cancer giving him an excuse to do what he does
 
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