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(Some Guy)   Alan Jackson on country music, "It's dead", proceeds to tell newer acts to get the hell off his lawn   (savingcountrymusic.com) divider line 116
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2013-09-30 12:53:16 PM
'Country' music radio is dead. It's been replaced by Redneck! music radio
 
2013-09-30 12:55:04 PM

IlGreven: You mean the guy who wrote and sang "Gone Country" about a bunch of has-been acts in other genres revitalizing their careers in country...is mad that a bunch of has-been acts in other genres are revitalizing their careers in country?


Came here to say EXACTLY this. He predicted it, (rather Bob Mcgill did, he was the writer) 15 years early. While I don't listen to FM radio often whenever I do its the washed up hard-rocker of the month/failed popsinger/teenie-bopper single. Then a song singing about how "Redneck" the singer is which as far as I can tell, you can be a "Redneck" just by drinking ice cold beer and then saying you are a "Redneck" over and over again. Or about going "Redneck crazy" which is basically just being a loud, obnoxious ass to your ex.
Country music is becoming a parody of itself, almost like heavy metal in the late 80s. It has seriously lost its way. Nowadays it seems like it is just overly cultural music for people that identify as white, poor, and rural even if they are only white. "Hear that new song by [country artist A]?" "Yeah, its totally redneck. Big trucks, beer and friday night parties yo!" What's the other song out now with the lyric about putting candles on his toolbox so he can be redneck-romantic with his wife? Dude, your cousin is impressed with a LOT less effort than that.
Seriously, right now rich urban people are PRETENDING to be "rednecks", almost like rap music and wannabe-gangsters.
/ 7 times
 
2013-09-30 12:55:51 PM

New Age Redneck: dallylamma

 Cheers!

  7 Corb Lund shows and counting....saw the smalls several times too....great to see him doing so well especially south of the border.

Thanks for posting everybody....off to the u-tubes....


I've seen Corb three or four times, met him a few times too. I've seen Ridley Bent once (opening for Corb, he came out for the encore and did Folsom Prison Blues absolutely shiat faced), Tim Hus a couple times and Hayes Carll once, when he opened for Steve Earle.
 
2013-09-30 12:57:21 PM

amishkarl: 'Country' music radio is dead. It's been replaced by Redneck! music radio


I call it "Southern Fried" Pop music.  But yeah, my post RIGHT after yours echoes the same sentiment.
 
2013-09-30 12:57:49 PM

uncoveror: It is all teen pop with hats and boots because that is what sells.


Don't forget the half-yodel.
 
2013-09-30 01:02:20 PM

SharkaPult: amishkarl: 'Country' music radio is dead. It's been replaced by Redneck! music radio

I call it "Southern Fried" Pop music.  But yeah, my post RIGHT after yours echoes the same sentiment.


Really pisses me off. I'm a farmer and everyone sees that redneck crap as being what rural people and farmers are like. Jacked up trucks are for idiots that don't need a truck. Namedropping John Deere doesn't make you a farmer. Getting drunk isn't something to be proud of.
 
2013-09-30 01:09:19 PM

amishkarl: SharkaPult: amishkarl: 'Country' music radio is dead. It's been replaced by Redneck! music radio

I call it "Southern Fried" Pop music.  But yeah, my post RIGHT after yours echoes the same sentiment.

Really pisses me off. I'm a farmer and everyone sees that redneck crap as being what rural people and farmers are like. Jacked up trucks are for idiots that don't need a truck. Namedropping John Deere doesn't make you a farmer. Getting drunk isn't something to be proud of.


......and you just lost 90% of Fark. :) I listen to the local country station, and an annoyingly high percentage of what they play is fake redneck alt-rock, or whatever they're trying to pass of as country now. The good stuff is out there, and it's not trying to cash in on rural stereotypes. Seriously, check out Corb Lund if you haven't. His songs have humor, and approach rural life from an honest, non-demeaning perspective.
 
2013-09-30 01:15:05 PM

verbaltoxin: DrSansabeltNoShiatSlacks: Show me the next Haggard or J. Cash.

Deke Dekerson, Junior Brown, The Bottlerockets, Shooter Jennings, Hank III, early Wilco, Unknown Hinson - that's just off the top of my head.


New Age Redneck: Bullsh*t!    Country music ain't dead ....it just smells funny....

  Corb Lund, Hank III, Ridley Bent, Hayes Carll, Dustin Bentall, Tim Hus...all seem to be carrying the torch...seems to me country is alive and doing just fine.

  Alan, there is a thing called the internet, get someone to show you how to use it!


Just wanted to let you know that ever single name up there sounds like a gay porno actor's name.

/seriously
//Ridley Bent? Dustin Bentall? Give me a f*ckin' break
///come on out, girls! You can still wear those boots!
 
2013-09-30 01:25:41 PM
John Buck 41:  OTOH, he's more 'country' (if that word has ANY meaning anymore) than the Rascal Flatts, Taylor Swifts, Carrie Underwoods, ad nauseum of the world.

Yup. I expect that kinda thing from Taylor Swift, but you know the music industry shiatheads are nailing down the coffin lid when the new Tim McGraw single "Southern Girl" uses farking auto-tune, and Luke Bryan is name-dropping rappers.

Also, I refuse to air  this lowest common denominator piece of shiat.
 
2013-09-30 01:32:46 PM
Did he ask himself "What would Jimmy Buffett do?" first? Loved him when he was younger, but now he's just a phoney.
 
2013-09-30 01:33:17 PM
Bookmark. Been looking for real country for a while.

Someone linked William Elliot Whitmore... well done!

And if anyone cares, the Red Dead Redemption soundtrack is great western music
 
2013-09-30 01:35:28 PM
The problem I personally observe with country music is that the development end sucks. I've been to showcases with friends for music festivals and such - call them try-outs - and heard nothing but covers. Any aspiring country band is evaluated on their ability to play old hits not on their ability to potentially write them. Compared to rock music, metal and punk rock included, a individual band's efforts are evaluated on their ability to be simultaneously original, derivative and entertaining, not merely mimicking past successes of other people. In order for country to get back on track, it needs to actually quit radio (their traditional biggest audience) and go out to find the people who want to listen to original music. It sure isn't country music fans, who are just as happy to listen to anything that comes out of either magic box regardless of what it is.
 
2013-09-30 01:35:49 PM
Here's two contributions I'll make to the thread:

Lydia Loveless-  http://www.youtube.com/wa tch?v=yhKDWckR2bs

Hayes Carll-  http://www.youtube.com/wa tch?v=hhkHG-oKCEU
 
2013-09-30 01:53:47 PM
 
2013-09-30 01:55:22 PM

Doc Batarang: The problem I personally observe with country music is that the development end sucks. I've been to showcases with friends for music festivals and such - call them try-outs - and heard nothing but covers. Any aspiring country band is evaluated on their ability to play old hits not on their ability to potentially write them. Compared to rock music, metal and punk rock included, a individual band's efforts are evaluated on their ability to be simultaneously original, derivative and entertaining, not merely mimicking past successes of other people. In order for country to get back on track, it needs to actually quit radio (their traditional biggest audience) and go out to find the people who want to listen to original music. It sure isn't country music fans, who are just as happy to listen to anything that comes out of either magic box regardless of what it is.


Here in Texas, the best places to play are the honky-tonks and dancehalls where people still come to dance, drink and have a good time. I think the further country music gets from dance music, the more it drifts into a weird alt-rocky kind of mush. It's that two-stepping back beat or shuffle that means country to me, and if bands can't handle the classics with maturity, the crowd automatically assumes they aren't worth listening to. Not necessarily a bad thing, as it tends to weed out those who can't be bothered to learn the history before trying to add to the canon.
 
2013-09-30 01:57:25 PM
why don't you love me like ya used to do?
 
2013-09-30 02:12:52 PM
Want country, or at least something that sounds more country than the autotuned pop crap of today?

Head to the Telluride Bluegrass Festival.  Yeah, yeah, it's "bluegrass" but it still sounds more country than "Baby you're a song, that makes me wanna roll my window down, and cruise!!!!!"
 
2013-09-30 02:14:27 PM

New Age Redneck: Bullsh*t!    Country music ain't dead ....it just smells funny....

  Corb Lund, Hank III, Ridley Bent, Hayes Carll, Dustin Bentall, Tim Hus...all seem to be carrying the torch...seems to me country is alive and doing just fine.

  Alan, there is a thing called the internet, get someone to show you how to use it!


You guys should all check out the Handsome Family. Great traditional country tunes, Brett has a deep voice reminiscent of Ernest Tubb, and Rennie writes the most incredible story-lyrics about insanity, murder, ghosts, and alcoholism that you've ever heard. Start off with Drunk By Noon, Arlene, So Much Wine

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWEmUl0lW4o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2N8RbFgaqck

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNz-EiO3BRY
 
2013-09-30 02:26:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3h3YssrLhc
 
2013-09-30 02:28:46 PM
Isn't Alan Jackson the one who wears that white hat all the time?

Funny thing about that white speck at the top of a pile of ch!ckenshiat.

/It's ch!ckenshiat too.
 
2013-09-30 02:36:21 PM
Add Chris Knight to the list, although his songs are depressing as shiat...
 
2013-09-30 02:36:32 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXTStJTfrTA

Kind of dark for country, though.
 
2013-09-30 02:39:01 PM
There's no lack of country music singers on the radio.  The real problem is a lack of country music writers providing good songs.
 
2013-09-30 02:39:24 PM

Detinwolf: It's only logical that country would seize the same bubblegum formula that makes pop so profitable.  Taylor Swift is sort of the ultimate amalgamation of this formula - she was designed to draw kids from country and pop backgrounds into this awesome money vortex of suck.


For all the hate she gets I still respect Taylor Swift. She started out the old fashioned way & sings about being a teenage girl, like a real person would experience. That's what country was always about. Divorce, alcoholism, death, break-ups, and pain because real people experience those things. Taylor Swift just doesn't have many experiences.

I have 14 year-old daughter that agrees with me. No she isn't 'real' country. It's music for teenage girls, so my daughter likes it. 
I can respect that over Miley Cyrus getting there via Disney or Carrie Underwood via a contest. And thank god it isn't that boy-band garbage. My kids know that is just shiat.

It's too easy to find good music to care much about Clear Channel and the MTV VMAs.
 
2013-09-30 02:44:35 PM

UrukHaiGuyz: and you just lost 90% of Fark. :) I listen to the local country station, and an annoyingly high percentage of what they play is fake redneck alt-rock, or whatever they're trying to pass of as country now. The good stuff is out there, and it's not trying to cash in on rural stereotypes. Seriously, check out Corb Lund if you haven't. His songs have humor, and approach rural life from an honest, non-demeaning perspective.


I've got 4 or 5 of his albums. You're right, he does seem to know what he's talking about. Cows  Around is a pretty good song that sums up the relationship farmers have with cattle.
 
2013-09-30 02:46:59 PM
bookmarking to listen when not at work
 
2013-09-30 02:51:17 PM
75 Comments and no one has mentioned Willie Nelson.
What is wrong with you people?

Country music is still alive and well in the form of Willie Nelson.
 
2013-09-30 02:53:05 PM
The worst part is that the ones that actually make it big and like country music have to hide it. Gary Allan is about the only one that gets radio play that isn't shy about his ideas about country music. I am waiting for Elizabeth Cook to su Miranda Lambert for Gimmick infringement.
 
2013-09-30 03:03:41 PM
Country farking blows
 
2013-09-30 03:04:45 PM
Square Grouper?
 
2013-09-30 03:11:23 PM
Above comment was meant for fatalvenom
 
2013-09-30 03:12:08 PM

bionicjoe: Detinwolf: It's only logical that country would seize the same bubblegum formula that makes pop so profitable.  Taylor Swift is sort of the ultimate amalgamation of this formula - she was designed to draw kids from country and pop backgrounds into this awesome money vortex of suck.

For all the hate she gets I still respect Taylor Swift. She started out the old fashioned way & sings about being a teenage girl, like a real person would experience. That's what country was always about. Divorce, alcoholism, death, break-ups, and pain because real people experience those things. Taylor Swift just doesn't have many experiences.

I have 14 year-old daughter that agrees with me. No she isn't 'real' country. It's music for teenage girls, so my daughter likes it. 
I can respect that over Miley Cyrus getting there via Disney or Carrie Underwood via a contest. And thank god it isn't that boy-band garbage. My kids know that is just shiat.

It's too easy to find good music to care much about Clear Channel and the MTV VMAs.


I think my greatest objection to Ms. Swift after the lack of variety in her song-writing (and you hit on why that is in your post) is that she's labelled country instead of just pop. She's so just pop music right now it ain't even funny, even if we accept that modern "country" is just what was popular in music and music videos on MTV like 5 years ago (minus overt rap influences).
 
2013-09-30 03:17:36 PM

brandent: DrSansabeltNoShiatSlacks: Show me the next Haggard or J. Cash.

Or even the current Emmylou Harris.


Allison Krauss?
 
2013-09-30 03:17:37 PM
Are you sure Hank done it this way?
 
2013-09-30 03:24:00 PM
no, I'm pretty sure he didn't.
 
2013-09-30 03:43:30 PM
There's been a load of compromising on the road to my horizon.
 
2013-09-30 04:08:18 PM
Bookmark
 
2013-09-30 04:21:06 PM
Begs to differ:

www.prickmag.net

/love me some hank 3
 
2013-09-30 04:51:30 PM

NateAsbestos: Bookmark. Been looking for real country for a while.

Someone linked William Elliot Whitmore... well done!

And if anyone cares, the Red Dead Redemption soundtrack is great western music


William Elliot Whitmore has ALWAYS been incredible. Also, Austin Lucas is worth a listen.
 
2013-09-30 05:04:45 PM
BTW for all the country accolades he may have had Johnny Cash was never strictly country. He just did what he did and sometimes it was over on the country side of things, sometimes it wasn't.
 
2013-09-30 05:30:37 PM
AJ bores me to tears. There is legit country out there but you wont find it on the radio.
 
2013-09-30 06:32:27 PM

Rev. Skarekroe: DrSansabeltNoShiatSlacks: Show me the next Haggard or J. Cash.

OK.
Done.


Crewmannumber6: What used to be called country music is now considered Americana, and there's some good shiat out there


Almost all these acts ... are just acts, and not all that Country.  IMO the Americana Association or whoever put on those shows is right to differentiate Americana from Country.  Hank Williams III is more like it.  There isn't a ton of Country out there.  That Hinson act is corny retro rockabilly dressup stuff, with cap guns.

Things are so warped that much of the "Country" radio is pure powerpop, and is the closest thing to new rock & roll on mainstream radio.  There are no major stations just for playing new rock and roll.
 
2013-09-30 07:08:03 PM
My dad listened to country. Like, real old school country music.

If I can listen to it, it's probably not country.
 
2013-09-30 07:17:08 PM
This thread is what all music threads should be.  Thank you to everyone who shared their suggestions and contributed to an actual conversation.  Cheers.

Mojo Nixon is proud of everyone here.
 
2013-09-30 08:20:51 PM
Agreed on the Will Whitmore. An incredible guy, the real deal. Although I know Will prefers to think of himself as a folksinger. Same with Todd Snider.

Now Hayes Carll? As long he's around, there will always be country music.
 
2013-09-30 08:36:34 PM
The most recent Jason Isbell record has been in constant rotation for me.
 
2013-09-30 08:48:44 PM

amishkarl: Getting drunk isn't something to be proud of.


You mean I should be ashamed?
 
2013-09-30 09:07:30 PM

GibbyTheMole: John Buck 41:  OTOH, he's more 'country' (if that word has ANY meaning anymore) than the Rascal Flatts, Taylor Swifts, Carrie Underwoods, ad nauseum of the world.

Yup. I expect that kinda thing from Taylor Swift, but you know the music industry shiatheads are nailing down the coffin lid when the new Tim McGraw single "Southern Girl" uses farking auto-tune, and Luke Bryan is name-dropping rappers.

Also, I refuse to air this lowest common denominator piece of shiat.


I was never a big McGraw fan. He lost me with Indian Outlaw. As maudlin as it is, though, I didn't mind 'Live Like You Were Dying' a couple times a year. A shame to see Bryan stoop to that level of one cliche after another (just like the untitled link you posted). Have you seen his live version of 'All My Friends Say'/Enter Sandman'? Surreal.

Don't miss the biz, that's for sure.
 
2013-09-30 09:27:39 PM
How to become a country star:

1) Use steel guitar

2) Mention 'Ol' Hank' even though you have no idea what you're talking about

3) Profit
 
2013-09-30 09:38:54 PM

dallylamma: Add Chris Knight to the list, although his songs are depressing as shiat...


Love Chris Knight. Also Randy Rogers Band...except "this is goodbye" makes me wanna slit my wrists, stick my head on an oven, THEN walk into 6 lanes of traffic. Hits home, I guess.
 
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