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2013-09-29 10:19:18 PM
Milk will smell or taste bad long before it makes you sick, says Labuza.

Yeah you go right ahead and drink that spoiled milk, Labuza. I'll just stay over here clear of the vomit zone.

/seriously how stupid is that
//show me a human who can do it without puking
 
2013-09-29 10:30:31 PM

vossiewulf: Milk will smell or taste bad long before it makes you sick, says Labuza.

Yeah you go right ahead and drink that spoiled milk, Labuza. I'll just stay over here clear of the vomit zone.

/seriously how stupid is that
//show me a human who can do it without puking


Milk that's a bit out of date and has a just a wiff of smell to it; makes great bread.

You can also simmer it, add a couple of tsp of yogurt to it after it cools. (pinch off the skin that forms).
Then put in a container overnight in the microwave (don't turn on; just a draft free place) and the next afternoon or night you have fresh yogurt.

You can also make simple cheese with it; blessed be the cheese makers.
 
2013-09-29 10:33:31 PM
You know who else liked spoiled milk?

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2013-09-29 10:36:46 PM
What about the garbage cans? There's always something to eat in the garbage!
 
2013-09-29 10:49:10 PM

optikeye: You can also make simple cheese with it; blessed be the cheese makers.


Notice none of those options involve drinking it.
 
2013-09-29 11:01:12 PM
There are lots of foods that are good past the 'expiration', I do recommend the smell test though. My sister ate canned peaches from my dad's basement that were probably almost 15 years old once, and she was fine... far as I'm concerned if it smells all right and didn't kill me the first time around, I'll probably chance it.
 
2013-09-29 11:46:18 PM
I read an article a while back about people who seek out certain canned foods past their expiration date.  Apparently, sardines and other canned fish get better with age.  Sounds weird, sure, but I'd give it a try.
 
2013-09-29 11:48:58 PM

ladyfortuna: There are lots of foods that are good past the 'expiration', I do recommend the smell test though. My sister ate canned peaches from my dad's basement that were probably almost 15 years old once, and she was fine... far as I'm concerned if it smells all right and didn't kill me the first time around, I'll probably chance it.


Well, yeah.  If it killed you the first time around, it's unlikely you'll try it a second time.

There's a difference between "use by" and "best by" dates.  If canned meat is past the use by date, I won't use it.  Botulism is odorless and tasteless, and lethal.  If canned acidic fruit or jelly-type things are past the use by date, I might chance it on the smell test, since those contaminants tend to stink to high heaven and the acid and sugar tend to kill bad stuff.  If a fermented food (yogurt, cheese, salami) or a meat product that involves mold in its production (hams, some sausages) has mold on it, I'll cut the mold off - unless the mold is any color other than white, in which case it's probably really bad for you.

Just learn a little about things, and you'll be fine.  Frankly, I just try not to buy enough food that it will go bad before I can get through it.  I use a first-in-first-out system if I want to pantry canned goods.
 
2013-09-30 12:16:45 AM

timujin: I read an article a while back about people who seek out certain canned foods past their expiration date.  Apparently, sardines and other canned fish get better with age.  Sounds weird, sure, but I'd give it a try.


Sounds similar to the same people who seek out and eat sun-seasoned roadkill. Have you had a CT scan recently? If not, maybe should schedule one.
 
2013-09-30 12:28:01 AM

vossiewulf: timujin: I read an article a while back about people who seek out certain canned foods past their expiration date.  Apparently, sardines and other canned fish get better with age.  Sounds weird, sure, but I'd give it a try.

Sounds similar to the same people who seek out and eat sun-seasoned roadkill. Have you had a CT scan recently? If not, maybe should schedule one.


I've never claimed to be completely sane, I'll take that under advisement.
 
2013-09-30 01:04:35 AM
 Gunders says  yogurt can last beyond six weeks and she often scrapes off the mould.

the fark???
 
2013-09-30 01:36:10 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: What about the garbage cans? There's always something to eat in the garbage!


Discarded pizza boxes are an inexpensive source of cheese.


log_jammin: Gunders says  yogurt can last beyond six weeks and she often scrapes off the mould.

the fark???


I do that with cheese all the time and I've done it once or twice with sour cream.
 
2013-09-30 01:41:41 AM
I operate on a "zombie apocalypse" policy - if I were in the middle of a zombie apocalypse and I came across food item x, would I eat it? If yes, then I eat it in real life. I save a lot of otherwise "spoiled" food this way.
 
2013-09-30 01:42:36 AM
Is it just me or is it the height of hilarity that this comes from a British news source?

"Hello!  In England, not only are we known for our terrible food and our dental issues, but here's an article about what foods are still good to eat after their expiration!  Don't mind the vomit-inducing taste, that milk is still good, little Georgie!  Drink up!"
 
2013-09-30 01:43:34 AM
fusillade762I do that with cheese all the time and I've done it once or twice with sour cream.

*barf*
 
2013-09-30 01:44:21 AM
Geeze, thanks Subbsey for a completley waisted green
 
2013-09-30 01:45:15 AM

log_jammin: fusillade762I do that with cheese all the time and I've done it once or twice with sour cream.

*barf*


I drank a protein shake with sour milk once. I thought it was the protein powder giving it a funky taste until the gf poured a glass of milk and cottage cheese came out.
 
2013-09-30 01:48:34 AM

Infernalist: Is it just me or is it the height of hilarity that this comes from a British news source?

"Hello!  In England, not only are we known for our terrible food and our dental issues, but here's an article about what foods are still good to eat after their expiration!  Don't mind the vomit-inducing taste, that milk is still good, little Georgie!  Drink up!"


No, no its not you
That was my first thought
 
2013-09-30 01:49:53 AM

ladyfortuna: There are lots of foods that are good past the 'expiration', I do recommend the smell test though. My sister ate canned peaches from my dad's basement that were probably almost 15 years old once, and she was fine... far as I'm concerned if it smells all right and didn't kill me the first time around, I'll probably chance it.


4.bp.blogspot.com

"Perhaps the worst thing that can happen is to reach into the refrigerator and come out with something that you cannot identify at all. You literally do not know what it is. Could be meat, could be cake. Usually, at a time like that, I'll bluff. "Honey, is this good?" "Well, what is it?" "I don't know. I've never seen anything like it. It looks like...meatcake!" "Well, smell it." (snort, sniff) "It has absolutely no smell whatsoever!" "It's good! Put it back! Somebody is saving it. It'll turn up in something." Thats what frightens me. That someone will consider it a challenge and use it just because it's in there."
 
2013-09-30 01:52:01 AM
I hope this isn't true, but I heard a rumor that some dairies would take milk that was returned by retailers for being outdated and use it to make ice cream, because the sugar and flavorings would cover the sour taste.

When vanilla ice cream made this way was returned for being outdated unsold, they simply added chocolate to it and re-sold it as chocolate ice cream, since the chocolate would cover the taste even better.

Is there any truth to this?
 
2013-09-30 01:52:43 AM

log_jammin: fusillade762I do that with cheese all the time and I've done it once or twice with sour cream.

*barf*


It just depends on how far gone it is; if there's just a little bit around the edges you can get rid of that and what's left is still fine. I've even rescued large blocks from more extensive amounts of mold. With sour cream/yogurt it's similar, but if it's also starting to congeal/harden/get that goopy watery shiat around the top, and there's less than half a container left, it's probably not worth trying to save.

At least in those cases, nothing of consequence was really wasted... unlike when meat spoils, that drives me crazy.
 
2013-09-30 01:52:44 AM
I'm currrently eating oats for porridge that's over 3 years old.

Tastes likes oats.
 
2013-09-30 01:53:43 AM
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There's a box of this stuff at the summer place that's been there for 30 years. It still tastes the same.
 
2013-09-30 01:54:15 AM
YAY MEATCAKE!1!
 
2013-09-30 01:54:23 AM
I bought liquid egg whites in small carton containers. It's good for a few weeks but it says once unsealed it is to be consumed within a week. I was a little disappointed and curious why. Unfortunately I don't really want to chance it.
 
2013-09-30 01:55:10 AM

log_jammin: Gunders says  yogurt can last beyond six weeks and she often scrapes off the mould.

the fark???


In related news, Gunders is also single and predicted to die surrounded by cats and regret.
 
2013-09-30 01:57:58 AM

ladyfortuna: It just depends on how far gone it is; if there's just a little bit around the edges you can get rid of that and what's left is still fine. I've even rescued large blocks from more extensive amounts of mold. With sour cream/yogurt it's similar, but if it's also starting to congeal/harden/get that goopy watery shiat around the top, and there's less than half a container left, it's probably not worth trying to save.

At least in those cases, nothing of consequence was really wasted... unlike when meat spoils, that drives me crazy.


Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I drank a protein shake with sour milk once. I thought it was the protein powder giving it a funky taste until the gf poured a glass of milk and cottage cheese came out.


ugh....


I have "a thing" about rotten/spoiled food. especially things like sour cream. or any dairy now that I think about it. I'd rather waste it than have the slightest chance of eating a spoiled dairy product. Just the smell alone sends me to gagging uncontrollably.
 
2013-09-30 01:58:11 AM
Sorry but if something has mold on it I'm throwing it away. If a bag of chips go stale, I'll just buy more. You can feel free to come grab them out of my dumpster if you want it.
 
2013-09-30 01:58:48 AM

GungFu: I'm currrently eating oats for porridge that's over 3 years old.

Tastes likes oats.


Just wait until the ergot hits. The colors...
 
2013-09-30 01:58:49 AM

log_jammin: ladyfortuna: It just depends on how far gone it is; if there's just a little bit around the edges you can get rid of that and what's left is still fine. I've even rescued large blocks from more extensive amounts of mold. With sour cream/yogurt it's similar, but if it's also starting to congeal/harden/get that goopy watery shiat around the top, and there's less than half a container left, it's probably not worth trying to save.

At least in those cases, nothing of consequence was really wasted... unlike when meat spoils, that drives me crazy.

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I drank a protein shake with sour milk once. I thought it was the protein powder giving it a funky taste until the gf poured a glass of milk and cottage cheese came out.

ugh....


I have "a thing" about rotten/spoiled food. especially things like sour cream. or any dairy now that I think about it. I'd rather waste it than have the slightest chance of eating a spoiled dairy product. Just the smell alone sends me to gagging uncontrollably.


You're not the only one.  I only buy milk in half gallons because anything more is wasted in my house.  Once I get even a hint of that sour smell, into the trash it goes.
 
2013-09-30 02:00:49 AM
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2013-09-30 02:01:17 AM

vossiewulf: optikeye: You can also make simple cheese with it; blessed be the cheese makers.

Notice none of those options involve drinking it.


Geez just don't smell it when you drink it. Your Majesty

/funny, you didn't look druish
 
2013-09-30 02:02:47 AM

Infernalist: Once I get even a hint of that sour smell, into the trash it goes.


I throw it out if there MIGHT be a smell.

"lets see...I bought that 4 days ago...well, I have to go to the store anyway....*drops it n the trash*"
 
2013-09-30 02:03:13 AM

Infernalist: You're not the only one. I only buy milk in half gallons because anything more is wasted in my house. Once I get even a hint of that sour smell, into the trash it goes.


Eat more cereal, it's a great way to use it up.

Also I can tell none of you who talk about tossing the slightest moldy thing have been truly poor. I haven't *really* been poor, but I've been close, and I had Depression era thriftiness hammered into me my entire life. If part of it is still good, I'ma try and use that shiat up somehow. Casserole night, biatches.

Or as my buddy said on the subject of cleaning the fridge, 'You just watch the dollars add up as you toss things in the garbage. $1.50 there, $2.79 there, $1.89 here, $4 there...'
 
2013-09-30 02:04:46 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: log_jammin: fusillade762I do that with cheese all the time and I've done it once or twice with sour cream.

*barf*

I drank a protein shake with sour milk once. I thought it was the protein powder giving it a funky taste until the gf poured a glass of milk and cottage cheese came out.


Out of the carton or out of the girlfriend?
 
2013-09-30 02:07:36 AM
I rarely have anything in the house long enough for it to get well past the best by date. I do work at a food bank and the issue comes up with donated items. Common sense dictates throwing away anything well past the date, anything dairy or meat, and anything in a damaged can.
 
2013-09-30 02:09:55 AM

ladyfortuna: Infernalist: You're not the only one. I only buy milk in half gallons because anything more is wasted in my house. Once I get even a hint of that sour smell, into the trash it goes.

Eat more cereal, it's a great way to use it up.

Also I can tell none of you who talk about tossing the slightest moldy thing have been truly poor. I haven't *really* been poor, but I've been close, and I had Depression era thriftiness hammered into me my entire life. If part of it is still good, I'ma try and use that shiat up somehow. Casserole night, biatches.

Or as my buddy said on the subject of cleaning the fridge, 'You just watch the dollars add up as you toss things in the garbage. $1.50 there, $2.79 there, $1.89 here, $4 there...'


Oh, I've been poor enough to salivate over the idea of ramen sammiches.  And when I was poor, I didn't have milk, I had Kool-aid and ice water to 'drink.'  Milk was strictly for cooking or morning cereal, nothing more and if I got caught drinking the milk, Mom beat my ass good.

So, yeah.  Now that I'm not poor, I drink milk and yeah, I waste milk.  It's 18 years of being told not to drink milk that does it, I think.
 
2013-09-30 02:10:43 AM
People will last a long time after they've expired if you just keep them cold.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-09-30 02:11:48 AM

zerkalo: I rarely have anything in the house long enough for it to get well past the best by date. I do work at a food bank and the issue comes up with donated items. Common sense dictates throwing away anything well past the date, anything dairy or meat, and anything in a damaged can.


Common sense yes, however... I've had food for waaaay longer than the printed date, and it was fine. Cottage cheese and eggs can last like two months if your fridge is cold enough. On the other end of the spectrum, I bought a big carton of half & half, and it started going off four days later; had to turn it into alfredo sauce just to get my money's worth out of it. The dates are a guideline, 'swhat I'm saying.

Obviously with a food bank though you do have to be more careful; if nothing else for liability reasons.
 
2013-09-30 02:12:52 AM

ladyfortuna: Infernalist: You're not the only one. I only buy milk in half gallons because anything more is wasted in my house. Once I get even a hint of that sour smell, into the trash it goes.

Eat more cereal, it's a great way to use it up.

Also I can tell none of you who talk about tossing the slightest moldy thing have been truly poor. I haven't *really* been poor, but I've been close, and I had Depression era thriftiness hammered into me my entire life. If part of it is still good, I'ma try and use that shiat up somehow. Casserole night, biatches.

Or as my buddy said on the subject of cleaning the fridge, 'You just watch the dollars add up as you toss things in the garbage. $1.50 there, $2.79 there, $1.89 here, $4 there...'


Exactly.  My friend was cleaning out his pantry and was about to toss some cans of food because they were near their expiration date.  Canned food.  I took it instead and it was just fine.  Dairy, on the other hand, I'm very careful about because that can get you sick fast if you're not careful. I don't buy milk a lot (I'm lactose intolerant), but I do use it for baking in the winter for some seasonal stuff.  Once I'm done with that, if there's any left, I give it to friends.  They'll drink it before I use it again and then it's not wasted.

/my friends are amazed I can live off of $25 a week for food
//not live well, it's fairly boring, but it's healthy and I survive
 
2013-09-30 02:12:54 AM
As someone who has been in the hospital from bad dairy food poisoning, I'll just bite the bullet and buy another gallon
 
2013-09-30 02:14:53 AM

Dalek Caan's doomed mistress: ladyfortuna: Infernalist: You're not the only one. I only buy milk in half gallons because anything more is wasted in my house. Once I get even a hint of that sour smell, into the trash it goes.

Eat more cereal, it's a great way to use it up.

Also I can tell none of you who talk about tossing the slightest moldy thing have been truly poor. I haven't *really* been poor, but I've been close, and I had Depression era thriftiness hammered into me my entire life. If part of it is still good, I'ma try and use that shiat up somehow. Casserole night, biatches.

Or as my buddy said on the subject of cleaning the fridge, 'You just watch the dollars add up as you toss things in the garbage. $1.50 there, $2.79 there, $1.89 here, $4 there...'

Exactly.  My friend was cleaning out his pantry and was about to toss some cans of food because they were near their expiration date.  Canned food.  I took it instead and it was just fine.  Dairy, on the other hand, I'm very careful about because that can get you sick fast if you're not careful. I don't buy milk a lot (I'm lactose intolerant), but I do use it for baking in the winter for some seasonal stuff.  Once I'm done with that, if there's any left, I give it to friends.  They'll drink it before I use it again and then it's not wasted.

/my friends are amazed I can live off of $25 a week for food
//not live well, it's fairly boring, but it's healthy and I survive


$25 a week is a lot of bread, peanut butter, beans and rice.
 
2013-09-30 02:15:47 AM
I find that canned foods often taste best when the can is really puffy and hisses a lot when you open it....
 
2013-09-30 02:15:57 AM
That's why I buy organic milk. That shiat lasts for a long time.
 
2013-09-30 02:16:21 AM

Kusanagi: As someone who has been in the hospital from bad dairy food poisoning, I'll just bite the bullet and buy another gallon


Careful. Biting the bullet can give you lead poisoning. Especially if it's an expired bullet.
 
2013-09-30 02:18:00 AM

Benevolent Misanthrope: ladyfortuna: There are lots of foods that are good past the 'expiration', I do recommend the smell test though. My sister ate canned peaches from my dad's basement that were probably almost 15 years old once, and she was fine... far as I'm concerned if it smells all right and didn't kill me the first time around, I'll probably chance it.

Well, yeah.  If it killed you the first time around, it's unlikely you'll try it a second time.

There's a difference between "use by" and "best by" dates.  If canned meat is past the use by date, I won't use it.  Botulism is odorless and tasteless, and lethal.  If canned acidic fruit or jelly-type things are past the use by date, I might chance it on the smell test, since those contaminants tend to stink to high heaven and the acid and sugar tend to kill bad stuff.  If a fermented food (yogurt, cheese, salami) or a meat product that involves mold in its production (hams, some sausages) has mold on it, I'll cut the mold off - unless the mold is any color other than white, in which case it's probably really bad for you.

Just learn a little about things, and you'll be fine.  Frankly, I just try not to buy enough food that it will go bad before I can get through it.  I use a first-in-first-out system if I want to pantry canned goods.


Botulism can take hold in any canned good, not just meat. It does produce gas byproducts though. If a can is bulging, throw it out.
 
2013-09-30 02:18:20 AM
Folks, you are looking at this all wrong. This is yet another reason to be pissed off at New Jersey. Do you know why bottled water has an expiration date? Yea, thanks NJ. Keep being a collective group of douche-bags.
 
2013-09-30 02:19:18 AM

SpdrJay: I find that canned foods often taste best when the can is really puffy and hisses a lot when you open it....


So do cats.
 
2013-09-30 02:21:10 AM

Benevolent Misanthrope: . If canned meat is past the use by date, I won't use it. Botulism is odorless and tasteless, and lethal. If canned acidic fruit or jelly-type things are past the use by date, I might chance it on the smell test, since those contaminants tend to stink to high heaven and the acid and sugar tend to kill bad stuff.


If it's been professionally canned, it doesn't go bad. It's been sanitized, and then sealed in an airtight can. Until that can is no longer airtight, it's fine. Botulism is a problem with home canned stuff where the food or can hasn't been properly sanitized. If the botulism is there, it's there. If it's not, it's not, regardless of how long it's been sitting in the can. Expiration date is irrelevant to whether you get botulism, it depends on the level of sanitation at the factory where the can is cleaned and your foot is processed. A fresh tin of contaminated sardines will kill you just as easily as a tin of aged ones. Of course, the FDA has gotten pretty good at this, and commercially canned goods are ridiculously safe these days.

The age may change the flavor, sometimes for good. Stick some meat in oil for a little while, and it often gets better with time. But these days, for insurance reasons, they put an expiration date on the tin that's only a few years out, even though the stuff lasts far longer. My grandfather headed up a US government effort to ship 20 year old emergency rations from fallout shelters (he worked for Civil Defense) to countries in need of food aid- with the premise of trying to put it to use before it went bad. This shiat lasts, is what I'm saying.

Yeah, keep an eye on the stuff in your fridge. But that can of tuna can sit in the back of your pantry for god knows how long and still be fine. Make sure you offer it to scientists first though, they may want the DNA. The way the species is going, tuna may be extinct before that can goes bad.
 
2013-09-30 02:21:19 AM

COMALite J: I hope this isn't true, but I heard a rumor that some dairies would take milk that was returned by retailers for being outdated and use it to make ice cream, because the sugar and flavorings would cover the sour taste.

When vanilla ice cream made this way was returned for being outdated unsold, they simply added chocolate to it and re-sold it as chocolate ice cream, since the chocolate would cover the taste even better.

Is there any truth to this?


Grocery stores do that with store brand ice cream, at least. If the vanilla goes too long without selling, it gets shipped back to the plant to add chocolate flavoring and resell.
 
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