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2013-09-29 04:46:26 PM
Anyone claiming to have the 'real facts' I automatically assume is lying to me to support their own agenda
 
2013-09-29 04:55:27 PM
Not in an editorial.
 
2013-09-29 04:57:31 PM
Starting Tuesday, Obama is going to come to our houses and kill our grandmas
 
2013-09-29 04:59:44 PM
I read that article and didn't find any 'facts'.  I found the usual propaganda points, no links to supplementary supporting material and a loss off focus by the time I got halfway down the page.
 
2013-09-29 05:32:47 PM
Mandatory death panels.
 
2013-09-29 05:37:26 PM

Weaver95: I read that article and didn't find any 'facts'.  I found the usual propaganda points, no links to supplementary supporting material and a loss off focus by the time I got halfway down the page.


I didn't even make it that far.
 
2013-09-29 05:38:49 PM

TwistedIvory: Mandatory death panels.


I've been trying my damnedest to get on a death panel, alas, to no avail.
 
2013-09-29 05:39:48 PM

ManateeGag: Starting Tuesday, Obama is going to come to our houses and kill our grandmas


Good.

Grandmas smell when they get old

/My last grandma died out in Arizona in the 90s, I had to rent a Lincoln Town Car and drive the whole east coast family out to Fort Wayne Ind. to the family farm just to throw a shovel of dirt on the bit*ch.
//R.I.P. Grandma
 
2013-09-29 05:45:14 PM
When did the AP start writing propaganda and hit pieces?
 
2013-09-29 05:45:44 PM
When did WND change its name to "Pennlive?"
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-09-29 05:48:32 PM
It looked like derp to me.  Not outright dishonest, but spinning like a pulsar.
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2013-09-29 06:01:03 PM
The worst thing about Obamacare is Cruz will never STFU
 
2013-09-29 06:01:45 PM
The real facts are this:

Democrats really want healthcare. It does not matter the specifics, but what matters is that they are an important part of our country and they also need to be thrown a bone. You can't always take take take and never give in negotiations. Shut the fark up and let them have this win
 
2013-09-29 06:02:23 PM
Lots of shear stupidity-

OBAMA: "Our deficits are now coming down so quickly that by the end of this year, we will have cut them in more than half since I took office." - Sept. 20 speech at Ford plant near Kansas City, Mo.
THE FACTS: Yes, but.
 ...

While annual deficits are declining, the national debt - the accumulation of deficits going back to the days of George Washington - is still rising.


Um, idiots- Obama didn't say debt, he said deficit. There is no 'but' unless you are dishonest a-holes. Which I guess you are.

OBAMA: "Raising the debt ceiling is not the same as approving more spending, any more than making your monthly payments adds to the total cost of your truck. You don't say, 'Well, I'm not gonna - I'm not gonna pay my bill, my note for my truck because I'm gonna save money.' No, you're not saving money. You already bought the truck, right? ... So raising the debt ceiling, it doesn't cost a dime. It does not add a penny to our deficits. " - Speech at Ford plant.
THE FACTS: Raising the debt ceiling is not the same as a consumer merely making monthly payments on existing debt. It's very much like a consumer getting approved for a higher cap on a credit card. It doesn't mean the consumer will necessarily spend more, but it makes higher spending possible.


Um, no. The money has already been spent, the debt has already been accrued. All raising the debt ceiling does is provide a mechanism for the  US to actually pay those bills.
 
2013-09-29 06:04:32 PM
HawgWild:
I've been trying my damnedest to get on a death panel, alas, to no avail.

I'm just hoping they build the euthanasia coaster. Wheeeeeeeeeeeee*dead*
 
2013-09-29 06:05:05 PM

cman: The real facts are this:

Democrats really want healthcare. It does not matter the specifics, but what matters is that they are an important part of our country and they also need to be thrown a bone. You can't always take take take and never give in negotiations. Shut the fark up and let them have this win


Never. Republicans must win at al costs.
 
2013-09-29 06:07:31 PM
Fine print: Obama will ban guns and horses.

No more horses in America. Only flying carpets.
 
2013-09-29 06:08:43 PM
Wait, is the article implying that if you liked the health insurance that you had prior to Obamacare passing, there was no way for premiums or deductibles or coverage to change?  Or for your employer to change it for you.

If you assume the same conditions were true for health insurance after Obamacare that were true before Obamacare, then the statement "If you like your health coverage, you can keep it" is just as true after the law as before the law.
 
2013-09-29 06:09:26 PM
Fact: A bunch of people are scared to farking death it might do good things and make them look bad bad horrible liars.

Fact: It may be the catalyst for the end times.

Fact: On page 1666 of the legislation there is a rider that mandates from here on-out, all merry-go-rounds in the continental United States must be operated in reverse and the music must also be played backwards.
 
2013-09-29 06:10:11 PM

cman: The real facts are this:

Democrats really want healthcare. It does not matter the specifics, but what matters is that they are an important part of our country and they also need to be thrown a bone. You can't always take take take and never give in negotiations. Shut the fark up and let them have this win


Wow.  That's the closest thing to actual bipartisanship and respect of the liberal position that I've seen on Fark in quite a while!  Kudos!
 
2013-09-29 06:13:03 PM

cman: The real facts are this:

Democrats really want healthcare. It does not matter the specifics, but what matters is that they are an important part of our country and they also need to be thrown a bone. You can't always take take take and never give in negotiations. Shut the fark up and let them have this win


But SOCIALISM!

TinyFist: HawgWild:
I've been trying my damnedest to get on a death panel, alas, to no avail.

I'm just hoping they build the euthanasia coaster. Wheeeeeeeeeeeee*dead*


That's the funniest farking thing I've seen all month.
 
2013-09-29 06:18:20 PM
Obamacare left my girlfriend's panties in my car right where my wife would see them.
 
2013-09-29 06:19:24 PM

Eddie Adams from Torrance: Obamacare left my girlfriend's panties in my car right where my wife would see them.


Obamacare pelted us with rocks and garbage.
 
2013-09-29 06:21:56 PM

HighOnCraic: Eddie Adams from Torrance: Obamacare left my girlfriend's panties in my car right where my wife would see them.

Obamacare pelted us with rocks and garbage.


Obamacare ate my goddamn clamcakes.
 
2013-09-29 06:22:34 PM
FACT: Obamacare busted down my door while I was a work, ate all my leftover chili, left an upper decker in my bathroom and came in my wife's ass. Now she's gonna have a buttbaby and someone still needs to flush the damn toilet again.
 
2013-09-29 06:22:56 PM

SilentStrider: HighOnCraic: Eddie Adams from Torrance: Obamacare left my girlfriend's panties in my car right where my wife would see them.

Obamacare pelted us with rocks and garbage.

Obamacare ate my goddamn clamcakes.


Obamacare killed my dog and had sex with it in front of a daycare.
 
2013-09-29 06:23:18 PM
O BOBmacare
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2013-09-29 06:24:49 PM
Obamacare is going to strip me of all the excuses I've been using for a dozen years to avoid going to the doctor.

Thanks a lot, Fartbama.
 
2013-09-29 06:25:57 PM
pluckyoutoo.files.wordpress.com

Now that's a real shame when folks be throwin' away a perfectly good Obamacare like that.
 
2013-09-29 06:26:14 PM
After Obamacare is implemented, everyone will be required to have one Islamofascist, homosexual abortion per month, or they get sent to reeducation camps.  Each of these abortions will cost $10 trillion dollars.
 
2013-09-29 06:27:10 PM

TuteTibiImperes: SilentStrider: HighOnCraic: Eddie Adams from Torrance: Obamacare left my girlfriend's panties in my car right where my wife would see them.

Obamacare pelted us with rocks and garbage.

Obamacare ate my goddamn clamcakes.

Obamacare killed my dog and had sex with it in front of a daycare.


Listen, and understand. Obamacare is out there. It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.
 
2013-09-29 06:29:54 PM
Quint:  Cage goes in the water, you go in the water. Obamacare's in the water. Our Obamacare. 
[sings]  Farewell and adieu to you, fair Spanish ladies. Farewell and adieu, you ladies of Spain. For we've received orders for to sail back to Boston. And so nevermore shall we see you again.
 
2013-09-29 06:30:15 PM
i.imgur.com

"Buck up little camper, we'll beat that OBAMACARE.........together."
 
2013-09-29 06:31:53 PM
Obamacare stole my horse, kilt my dog, and left me to die in the desert.
 
2013-09-29 06:33:47 PM
The tortoise lays on its back, its belly baking in the hot sun, beating its legs trying to turn itself over, but it can't. Not without your help. But you're not helping. Why is that, Obamacare?
 
2013-09-29 06:40:53 PM
As you can see, my young apprentice, your friends have failed. Now witness the firepower of this fully ARMED and OPERATIONAL Obamacare!
 
2013-09-29 06:41:50 PM
Say AAAHHH, muthafarkers
 
2013-09-29 06:44:01 PM
Everybody is forced to be gay-married to a kangaroo (or whatever Kenya's national animal is) and of course, praying towards Mecca (Chicago) five times daley.
 
2013-09-29 06:44:08 PM
The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy My brothers. And you will know My name is Obamacare when I lay My vengeance upon thee.
 
2013-09-29 06:45:08 PM

ManateeGag: Starting Tuesday, Obama is going to come to our houses and kill our grandmas


First I was like: lol.

TinyFist: HawgWild:
I've been trying my damnedest to get on a death panel, alas, to no avail.

I'm just hoping they build the euthanasia coaster. Wheeeeeeeeeeeee*dead*


Then I was like: BWAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH

You two farkers totally made my day.
 
2013-09-29 06:48:45 PM

TinyFist: Obamacare is going to strip me of all the excuses I've been using for a dozen years to avoid going to the doctor.

Thanks a lot, Fartbama.


MHMM
I have a friend who is being forced to buy coverage by this law. And my only thought is THANK SCIENCE!
He now has less of an excuse to go get medical attention for his damn blood pressure.

FFS

/I guess you could still use the "but my co pay is too much" as an excuse to not go.
/But if you already PAID for a year of coverage, WHY THE fark NOT USE IT????
 
2013-09-29 06:49:39 PM

Uranus Is Huge!: Everybody is forced to be gay-married to a kangaroo (or whatever Kenya's national animal is) and of course, praying towards Mecca (Chicago) five times daley.


The pledge of allegiance is being changed from 'one nation under God' to 'one nation under Marx'.
 
2013-09-29 06:53:43 PM

Weaver95: I read that article and didn't find any 'facts'.  I found the usual propaganda points, no links to supplementary supporting material and a loss off focus by the time I got halfway down the page.


You need to spend more time on tfd. I promise to green arrow you in cj threads.
 
2013-09-29 06:54:37 PM

Uranus Is Huge!: Everybody is forced to be gay-married to a kangaroo (or whatever Kenya's national animal is) and of course, praying towards Mecca (Chicago) five times daley.


The tiger, dumbass
 
2013-09-29 06:55:59 PM
This has been passed for years. It has gone through a supreme court battle and has millions of hours of analysis behind it. If you don't know what's in it that's your fault for being a lazy fark. Omg its really long works when it just comes up. Years later? Not so much
 
2013-09-29 07:14:52 PM

Lionel Mandrake: Uranus Is Huge!: Everybody is forced to be gay-married to a kangaroo (or whatever Kenya's national animal is) and of course, praying towards Mecca (Chicago) five times daley.

The tiger, dumbass


Heres a fun fact: France's national bird is a chicken. No, seriously
 
2013-09-29 07:21:48 PM
Fact: Obamacare makes it easier to change jobs, thus driving up wages.
Can't imagine why the GOP would hate that
 
2013-09-29 07:37:31 PM

SilentStrider: HighOnCraic: Eddie Adams from Torrance: Obamacare left my girlfriend's panties in my car right where my wife would see them.

Obamacare pelted us with rocks and garbage.

Obamacare ate my goddamn clamcakes.


Obamacare went into my room and moved the wooden slats on my computer chair too close together
 
2013-09-29 07:48:29 PM
Could someone ask Romeny and the GOP leadership one question:
IF the future of the GOP relies on attracting Hispanic voters, what percentage of those voters are in favor of the ACA and are getting health insurance for the first time next year?

 cross posted in the romney hispanic thread
 
2013-09-29 07:48:48 PM

TuteTibiImperes: When did the AP start writing propaganda and hit pieces?


They don't of, course, they're the librul mejuh
 
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