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(UPI)   This weekend's international mass shooting comes from Nigeria, where suspected Boko Haram militants have attacked a college dormitory, killing at least 40   (upi.com) divider line 199
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2013-09-29 11:02:10 AM  
I like their anglicized name- The Congregation and People of Tradition for Proselytism and Jihad.

Whole lot of proselytism going on. And people thought proselytizers in the US were jerks.
 
2013-09-29 11:02:38 AM  
They still have like 40 more to go to catch the west
 
2013-09-29 11:02:45 AM  
Crazy!
 
2013-09-29 11:02:52 AM  
F*ck.
 
2013-09-29 11:03:23 AM  
The group called "Learning is Forbidden" attacked a college? Wow, how original.
 
2013-09-29 11:03:32 AM  
Weren't Boko Harem the guys who did that song "Whiter Shade of Pale" ?
 
2013-09-29 11:03:37 AM  
Can we have some kind of plague quickly spread over the world and take about 40-50% of the inhabitants? The Earth is in need of another cleansing.
 
2013-09-29 11:04:34 AM  

catmandu: Can we have some kind of plague quickly spread over the world and take about 40-50% of the inhabitants? The Earth is in need of another cleansing.


Apparently it's the "mass shooting virus."
 
2013-09-29 11:05:05 AM  
For all of those who thought if you kill the head, the body dies...well, welcome to the real world. Killing OBL and most of the Al Qaeda leadership has done nothing to stop the spread of terror. In fact, the terror organizations have become just that--organizations. They mimic the big business entities that have raped natural resources and plundered weath in the Middle East.

Additionally, the global corporate giants and their biatch militaries have shiat on so many people in so many countries, we're never going to put out the flames. Just enjoy watching the fires burn.
 
2013-09-29 11:05:09 AM  
Whiter Shade of Pale was such a good song.  It's hard to believe these guys have become such dicks.
 
2013-09-29 11:07:20 AM  
Pol Pot!
 
2013-09-29 11:07:32 AM  
Ain't Islam grand?


/b-but but Abortion Clinics!!
 
2013-09-29 11:08:44 AM  
There's nothing that a hundred men or more could ever do.
 
2013-09-29 11:11:05 AM  
Are they Nigerian princes?

/Has a check waiting for you!
//Niger plz!
///Just sayin...
 
2013-09-29 11:11:07 AM  
Remember the narrative, folks: Guns didn't kill these people; Muslims killed these people.
 
2013-09-29 11:12:16 AM  
How easy would it be to mount a similar terrorist attack in 2nd Amendment 'Merka?
 
2013-09-29 11:12:42 AM  
If only they had eliminated high capacity magazines this might have been stopped.

Slutter McGee
 
2013-09-29 11:13:25 AM  
I could swear Lalla Alla Akbar had adjusted their charter and explicitly banned hazing. The dean is going to be furious with this, and they are sure to get kicked off campus this time.

Not that it matters, their mixers always sucked.
 
2013-09-29 11:14:20 AM  
Wow, talk about a tough curriculum. The competition must be cutthroat.
 
2013-09-29 11:15:14 AM  

Sock Ruh Tease: The group called "Learning is Forbidden" attacked a college? Wow, how original.


Actually, it's not that simple. Boko apparently means "non-Islamic knowledge". Pretty much anything derived or generated by non-traditional Islamic groups is sinful. Apparently the idea that the world is round is a western plot to weaken Islam. Also the water cycle is un-Islamic. Rain comes from Allah not condensation!
 
2013-09-29 11:15:17 AM  
Gosh, business sure has been brisk at the Allahu Snackbar......
 
2013-09-29 11:15:43 AM  
They need more gun control over there.
 
2013-09-29 11:16:01 AM  

StarshipAngel: Weren't Boko Harem the guys who did that song "Whiter Shade of Pale" ?


No, it's that peaceful religion Kurt Vonnegut invented in Cat's Cradle.
 
2013-09-29 11:17:22 AM  
Happens almost daily around the world. Nothing new here except the media whoring. Move along.
 
2013-09-29 11:17:46 AM  

The Pope of Manwich Village: There's nothing that a hundred men or more could ever do.


Your comment rocked as sure as kilimanjaro rises like olympus above the Serengeti.
 
2013-09-29 11:17:49 AM  
If I had the power to snapy fingers and have all Muslims vanish from the earth. Yes I would and I would sleep well at night. And no I do not believe this would solve all the worlds problems, just 80 to 90 percent of them.
 
2013-09-29 11:18:21 AM  
the victims are now a whiter shade of pale
 
2013-09-29 11:19:28 AM  

Brick-House: And no I do not believe this would solve all the worlds problems, just 80 to 90 percent of them.


then you know very little about the worlds problems.
 
2013-09-29 11:19:43 AM  

lantawa: Gosh, business sure has been brisk at the Allahu Snackbar......


Their business doubled when they put on stock car racing. Everyone loves Allahu NASCAR
 
2013-09-29 11:19:46 AM  
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-09-29 11:20:26 AM  
So long as they don't get ahold of any ice-9 we'll be okay.
 
2013-09-29 11:20:49 AM  

IlGreven: Remember the narrative, folks: Guns didn't kill these people; Muslims killed these people.


www.hanford.gov


Laughs at your inefficient gun method
 
2013-09-29 11:21:27 AM  

IlGreven: Remember the narrative, folks: Guns didn't kill these people; Muslims killed these people.


Well, seeing as firearms for private citizens are all but illegal officially, I would have to agree.
 
2013-09-29 11:22:56 AM  
Why can't crazy people leave others alone?
 
2013-09-29 11:23:26 AM  

Brick-House: If I had the power to snapy fingers and have all Muslims vanish from the earth. Yes I would and I would sleep well at night. And no I do not believe this would solve all the worlds problems, just 80 to 90 percent of them.


We could solve another 15% by euthanizing all those people that categorize based on religious stereotype.
 
2013-09-29 11:24:40 AM  
So does this mean classes are cancelled tomorrow?

I have a paper due.
 
2013-09-29 11:26:03 AM  

WhyteRaven74: Brick-House: And no I do not believe this would solve all the worlds problems, just 80 to 90 percent of them.

then you know very little about the worlds problems.


Islam: worse than poverty and disease and all but 20% of the world's problems. Brick-House is clearly on the knowledge train!
 
2013-09-29 11:27:53 AM  

Mrbogey: Sock Ruh Tease: The group called "Learning is Forbidden" attacked a college? Wow, how original.

Actually, it's not that simple. Boko apparently means "non-Islamic knowledge". Pretty much anything derived or generated by non-traditional Islamic groups is sinful. Apparently the idea that the world is round is a western plot to weaken Islam. Also the water cycle is un-Islamic. Rain comes from Allah not condensation!


Actaully, I'd wager traditional Islamic groups understood condensation.

www.muslimheritage.com
 
2013-09-29 11:29:18 AM  

Mad Tea Party: Mrbogey: Sock Ruh Tease: The group called "Learning is Forbidden" attacked a college? Wow, how original.

Actually, it's not that simple. Boko apparently means "non-Islamic knowledge". Pretty much anything derived or generated by non-traditional Islamic groups is sinful. Apparently the idea that the world is round is a western plot to weaken Islam. Also the water cycle is un-Islamic. Rain comes from Allah not condensation!

Actaully, I'd wager traditional Islamic groups understood condensation.

[www.muslimheritage.com image 850x560]


But they were terrible artists.
 
2013-09-29 11:30:11 AM  

davin: Brick-House: If I had the power to snapy fingers and have all Muslims vanish from the earth. Yes I would and I would sleep well at night. And no I do not believe this would solve all the worlds problems, just 80 to 90 percent of them.

We could solve another 15% by euthanizing all those people that categorize based on religious stereotype.


upload.wikimedia.org

"It's the way these yellow Muslim devils think.  It's burned into their brains.  'Kill Americans infidels.  Kill, kill.'  They don't respect human life the way we do.  I'd like to take 'em out and shoot 'em."
 
2013-09-29 11:31:14 AM  
Is it too early to talk about Nigerian gun control?
 
2013-09-29 11:33:08 AM  

TheShavingofOccam123: For all of those who thought if you kill the head, the body dies...well, welcome to the real world. Killing OBL and most of the Al Qaeda leadership has done nothing to stop the spread of terror. In fact, the terror organizations have become just that--organizations. They mimic the big business entities that have raped natural resources and plundered weath in the Middle East.

Additionally, the global corporate giants and their biatch militaries have shiat on so many people in so many countries, we're never going to put out the flames. Just enjoy watching the fires burn.


These local organizations have very little to do with Al Qaeda, other than sharing some of the same Salafist Takfiri philosophy. Nigeria has a homegrown radical extremist problem; these aren't foreign fighters directed from Pakistan. Ditto Kenya; those guys were from next door in Somalia, and their beef has nothing to do with global corporatism; it's personal because Kenya occupied Somalia to reestablish government there.

Europe and North America went through a similar spasm of violence in the 1970s. led (as in the current case) by young "intellectuals" who had latched onto a utopian philosophy (Communism back then, radical Islam now) that they think can be implemented by violent revolution. They don't have to conspire across national borders; they just subscribe to the same reading list.
 
2013-09-29 11:33:17 AM  
I was told that Israel was the root of the Muslims' anger.

Nay, nay, everyone has problems with Muslims

Africans
Russians
Chinese
Thai
Filipinos.  Hell, the Philippians gave the Muslims a special administrative district to run and they are STILL shooting/blowing up people.  There is no bargaining with them.

/it is only 1% or so that's bad, but that's still a lot.  They need to clean their own house if they don't want to be persecuted the actions of someone else.
 
2013-09-29 11:35:15 AM  
So let me get this straight... In Africa, where there is a huge starvation problem, A group jihadists thought the best target would be a bunch of Africans learning how to grow food?
 
2013-09-29 11:35:55 AM  

StarshipAngel: Weren't Boko Harem the guys who did that song "Whiter Shade of Pale" ?


When you're packing AKs, you just skip that light fandango shiat.
 
2013-09-29 11:36:49 AM  

AngryDragon: IlGreven: Remember the narrative, folks: Guns didn't kill these people; Muslims killed these people.

Well, seeing as firearms for private citizens are all but illegal officially, I would have to agree.


It's almost like disarming citizens doesn't make them any safer from those who would seek to do them harm. To some people, this seems counter intuitive.
 
2013-09-29 11:36:57 AM  

Mad Tea Party: Actaully, I'd wager traditional Islamic groups understood condensation.

www.muslimheritage.com


That's micro-condensation... not macro-condensation. Totally different.

/ah...evolution
 
2013-09-29 11:39:06 AM  

Mad Tea Party: Mrbogey: Sock Ruh Tease: The group called "Learning is Forbidden" attacked a college? Wow, how original.

Actually, it's not that simple. Boko apparently means "non-Islamic knowledge". Pretty much anything derived or generated by non-traditional Islamic groups is sinful. Apparently the idea that the world is round is a western plot to weaken Islam. Also the water cycle is un-Islamic. Rain comes from Allah not condensation!

Actaully, I'd wager traditional Islamic groups understood condensation.

[www.muslimheritage.com image 850x560]


Hey, it's one of those alembic thingies I had to tote around Tamriel in Oblivion!

I'm still not sure if making the alchemical stations a fixture was better or worse; I liked being able to create a couple of potions on the fly in the middle of a dungeon crawl, but it's 10 pounds less of loot when you added in all of the alchemical equipment.
 
2013-09-29 11:39:55 AM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: I'd like to take 'em out and shoot 'em."


I prefer MASHing 'em.

Well played.
 
2013-09-29 11:40:08 AM  
Everyone's aware that most of the victims in these "Muslim" attacks are Muslims, right? This isn't about Islam; it's about a very particular sect of Islam exported by those fundamentalist Salafist shiatheads in Saudi Arabia, and polished to a high crazy in Pakistan. We should be funding the building of Sufi madrassas, and freezing Wahabbi assets.
 
2013-09-29 11:42:10 AM  
Anyone read the wiki on the group and it's leader.

"In a 2009 BBC interview, Mohammed Yusuf, then leader of the group, stated his belief that the concept of a spherical Earth is contrary to Islamic teaching and should be rejected, along with Darwinian evolution and the concept of rain originating from water evaporated by the sun."

What a f*cking nut bar. He comes across like someone that fit right in with the Westboro Baptists.
I say we (the rest of the world) should have our own Jihad, round up all these crazy asshole and drop them in a deep pit and cover it over with dirt and then salt the earth.
 
2013-09-29 11:42:39 AM  

mbillips: Everyone's aware that most of the victims in these "Muslim" attacks are Muslims, right? This isn't about Islam; it's about a very particular sect of Islam exported by those fundamentalist Salafist shiatheads in Saudi Arabia, and polished to a high crazy in Pakistan. We should be funding the building of Sufi madrassas, and freezing Wahabbi assets.


This.

The Saudi royal family has been buying off the Wahabbists for 60 by plowing oil money into schools all over the place.  We should have seen this coming 30 years ago, and then really done something about it when we saved Fahd's ass in 1991-1992.
 
2013-09-29 11:44:33 AM  

Maul555: So let me get this straight... In Africa, where there is a huge starvation problem, A group jihadists thought the best target would be a bunch of Africans learning how to grow food?


We're not just talking Muslims here, we're talking African Muslims.
 
2013-09-29 11:46:15 AM  
Arise chicken, arise
 
2013-09-29 11:46:54 AM  

Mrbogey: Apparently the idea that the world is round is a western plot to weaken Islam. Also the water cycle is un-Islamic. Rain comes from Allah not condensation!


Those Muslims believe some weird-ass shiat.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to be at church in 26 minutes so I can literally consume the body and blood of Christ.
 
2013-09-29 11:46:56 AM  

indarwinsshadow: Anyone read the wiki on the group and it's leader.

"In a 2009 BBC interview, Mohammed Yusuf, then leader of the group, stated his belief that the concept of a spherical Earth is contrary to Islamic teaching and should be rejected, along with Darwinian evolution and the concept of rain originating from water evaporated by the sun."

What a f*cking nut bar. He comes across like someone that fit right in with the Westboro Baptists.
I say we (the rest of the world) should have our own Jihad, round up all these crazy asshole and drop them in a deep pit and cover it over with dirt and then salt the earth.


fark that... This guy deserves to be launched into the sun for that specific comment alone...   he can observe the spherical earth receding away as he heads off to meet Allah...  Turn it into a science experiment for extra lulz.
 
2013-09-29 11:47:44 AM  
You know what all these shootings have in common? The shooters had guns.
 
2013-09-29 11:47:50 AM  
when I saw the scroll on fox news I thought it said "mutant gunmen."
and I was imagining mutant gunmen til I realized it was the eyesight again.
Also saw "social media" as "suicidal media."
maybe this declining eyesight thing ain't so bad.
Oh, and religion kills progress.

/'s protocol
 
2013-09-29 11:49:00 AM  
When are we going to just start killing these worthless religious crazies polluting this planet?

Start with the morons bombing abortion clinics in America and move east to the freaks throwing acid in girls' faces.
 
2013-09-29 11:49:12 AM  

jaybeezey: AngryDragon: IlGreven:
It's almost like disarming citizens doesn't make them any safer from those who would seek to do them harm. To some people, this seems counter intuitive.


If this happened in Texas, there would probably be 300 shoppers killed in the crossfire.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-09-29 11:49:41 AM  

jaybeezey: It's almost like disarming citizens doesn't make them any safer from those who would seek to do them harm. To some people, this seems counter intuitive.


It's almost like these people are the perfect example of what happens when you let crazy people have guns.
 
2013-09-29 11:50:26 AM  

uber humper: I was told that Israel was the root of the Muslims' anger.

Nay, nay, everyone has problems with Muslims

Africans
Russians
Chinese
Thai
Filipinos.  Hell, the Philippians gave the Muslims a special administrative district to run and they are STILL shooting/blowing up people.  There is no bargaining with them.

/it is only 1% or so that's bad, but that's still a lot.  They need to clean their own house if they don't want to be persecuted the actions of someone else.


It's way more than 1%. Pew Research put out a poll showing that about half of all Muslims worldwide think terrorism is morally acceptable to spread Islam. Yeah, maybe only 1% are actively fighting, but the fact that they can rely on moral support from their communities is what makes it 1% instead of 0.1%. For this reason, the Muslims who glorify and respect jihadist are complicit with their crimes.
 
2013-09-29 11:50:58 AM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: davin: Brick-House: If I had the power to snapy fingers and have all Muslims vanish from the earth. Yes I would and I would sleep well at night. And no I do not believe this would solve all the worlds problems, just 80 to 90 percent of them.

We could solve another 15% by euthanizing all those people that categorize based on religious stereotype.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x240]

"It's the way these yellow Muslim devils think.  It's burned into their brains.  'Kill Americans infidels.  Kill, kill.'  They don't respect human life the way we do.  I'd like to take 'em out and shoot 'em."


weaponsandwarfare.com

"The Oriental doesn't put the same high price on life as the Westerner."

-- Gen. William Westmoreland

Fun fact: Cadet Westmoreland's mess hall task at West Point was to make sure that no African-American cadets ate there.
 
2013-09-29 11:51:35 AM  
If they just had the sense to establish Gun Free Zones these acts of senseless violence would immediately stop.
 
2013-09-29 11:51:37 AM  

LtDarkstar: Are they Nigerian princes?

/Has a check waiting for you!
//Niger plz!
///Just sayin...


From the desk of Abudar Kurraba,

Dearest Friend,

With the recent tragedy at the College of Agriculture in Gujba, Yobe, I have recently come into an amount of no small importance  The amount in question is 48 billion Naira which is approximately 300 million US dollars.  My intent is to leave Nigeria with the money I now have.  I require your assistance to transfer the money out.  Your compensation will be one tenth of the total amount, which is approximately 30 million dollars.  Time is of great importance so please respond quickly.
 
2013-09-29 11:51:43 AM  

LineNoise: I could swear Lalla Alla Akbar had adjusted their charter and explicitly banned hazing. The dean is going to be furious with this, and they are sure to get kicked off campus this time.

Not that it matters, their mixers always sucked.


I heard they stole Neidermohammed's camel and pretended to execute it with an AK in the deans' office and it had a heart attack and died.  Those lovable scamps.
 
2013-09-29 11:52:35 AM  
Gee, islamic militants killing innocent people to spread the love and teachings of Allah. That is sure to get people on your side and convert. Murder their children, that's sure to make people come to your cause. Assholes.
 
2013-09-29 11:53:12 AM  

K3rmy: LtDarkstar: Are they Nigerian princes?

/Has a check waiting for you!
//Niger plz!
///Just sayin...

From the desk of Abudar Kurraba,

Dearest Friend,

With the recent tragedy at the College of Agriculture in Gujba, Yobe, I have recently come into an amount of no small importance  The amount in question is 48 billion Naira which is approximately 300 million US dollars.  My intent is to leave Nigeria with the money I now have.  I require your assistance to transfer the money out.  Your compensation will be one tenth of the total amount, which is approximately 30 million dollars.  Time is of great importance so please respond quickly.


Do you take paypay?  My email is M­oh­am­m­edIsADouc­he­[nospam-﹫-backwards]stsit­paborobtsew*c­o­m
 
2013-09-29 11:54:16 AM  

Maul555: indarwinsshadow: Anyone read the wiki on the group and it's leader.

"In a 2009 BBC interview, Mohammed Yusuf, then leader of the group, stated his belief that the concept of a spherical Earth is contrary to Islamic teaching and should be rejected, along with Darwinian evolution and the concept of rain originating from water evaporated by the sun."

What a f*cking nut bar. He comes across like someone that fit right in with the Westboro Baptists.
I say we (the rest of the world) should have our own Jihad, round up all these crazy asshole and drop them in a deep pit and cover it over with dirt and then salt the earth.

fark that... This guy deserves to be launched into the sun for that specific comment alone...   he can observe the spherical earth receding away as he heads off to meet Allah...  Turn it into a science experiment for extra lulz.


He's dead, but his crazy ass memory lives on.

news.bbcimg.co.uk


Oh lordy. Does this need a photoshop or what?
 
2013-09-29 11:54:18 AM  

Clemkadidlefark: If they just had the sense to establish Gun Free Zones these acts of senseless violence would immediately stop.


Yeah! Take that, libtards!!

lulz stoopid libtards
 
2013-09-29 11:54:37 AM  
Bongo Blue:
when I saw the scroll on fox news I thought it said "mutant gunmen."
and I was imagining mutant gunmen til I realized it was the eyesight again.
Also saw "social media" as "suicidal media."
maybe this declining eyesight thing ain't so bad.
Oh, and religion kills progress.


That's the worst limerick I've ever read.
 
2013-09-29 11:54:55 AM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: Mrbogey: Apparently the idea that the world is round is a western plot to weaken Islam. Also the water cycle is un-Islamic. Rain comes from Allah not condensation!

Those Muslims believe some weird-ass shiat.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to be at church in 26 minutes so I can literally consume the body and blood of Christ.


Not many mall or school attacks by Catholics, in platoon strength with hundreds of casualties, because the heathen Lutherans have a different view on communion nowadays.
 
2013-09-29 11:56:53 AM  

TheShavingofOccam123: For all of those who thought if you kill the head, the body dies...well, welcome to the real world. Killing OBL and most of the Al Qaeda leadership has done nothing to stop the spread of terror. In fact, the terror organizations have become just that--organizations. They mimic the big business entities that have raped natural resources and plundered weath in the Middle East.

Additionally, the global corporate giants and their biatch militaries have shiat on so many people in so many countries, we're never going to put out the flames. Just enjoy watching the fires burn.


I just knew, somehow, it had to be our fault.  Thanks for pointing out the reason why 40 students had to be massacred, clearly originated in the corporate boardrooms of the West.  I'm sure you are quickly rising to the top of this year's list of candidates, to win that most coveted award,  The Legion of Derp and Hurr, with a nice red sash, that reads "Shiat for Brains".
 
2013-09-29 11:57:57 AM  

mbillips: Europe and North America went through a similar spasm of violence in the 1970s. led (as in the current case) by young "intellectuals" who had latched onto a utopian philosophy (Communism back then, radical Islam now) that they think can be implemented by violent revolution. They don't have to conspire across national borders; they just subscribe to the same reading list.


Except for it's not "radical Islam" we have to worry about here; we have "citizens militia" groups here in the US trying to instill their paranoid fantasies of everyone wearing a gun and killing anyone who isn't of their particular weird interpretation of Christianity. Radio and TV shysters and charlatans are trying to get people to create their own microcosm society of like-minded individuals and demand the right to walk around everywhere brandishing a firearm.

Blaming crazy attacks on a person's religion is silly. Here in the US, most all of the recent mass shootings have been carried out by Christians, simply because statistically speaking, most people in the US were taken to Christian churches when they were kids. Crazy sometimes overrides the teachings common to all religions of "be good to one another".

While there is no doubt that most all who carry out attacks such as suicide bombings are motivated to give up their lives based on a promise of reward in the afterlife, the people who recruit these individuals and plan and finance these attacks are simply not motivated by religion. They don't hate us for our freedom, they hate us because we're over in their part of the world telling them how to run things, and bribing and cajoling to get things to work out for our advantage to the detriment of the people whose forefathers fought and died for that land.

You want to stop "Islamic terrorism"? Stop farking with countries where Islam is the predominant religion. There is no doubt in my mind that if the US and US-based corporations behaved in this same way to Buddhist countries, a fringe Buddhist element would arise and some Buddhist religious leaders would begin promising things in the afterlife for those who gave their lives in the holy war against the infidels.

Blaming Islam every time there is an attack by crazy people is as silly as blaming Christianity for Eric Rudolph, who claimed he was carrying out God's work. Try this on for size: "If we banned Christianity, fringe lunatics like Eric Rudolph would not be murdering innocent people in the name of God. Christianity is clearly the problem here, as its teachings justify the deadly use of force to protect the innocent unborn children from those who carry out and support abortion."
 
2013-09-29 11:58:00 AM  
Really? Mass killings in Nigeria are news now?
 
2013-09-29 11:59:03 AM  
Procol Harum?

I see the religion of peace is hitting the soft targets now.
 
2013-09-29 11:59:23 AM  
This is frequent in Muslim-dominated countries, unless the dictator (and let's be honest, it is always a dictator) has them locked down with an iron fist.

Certainly not Middle Easter/Arabic/North African culture though. Clearly this is all the fault of George Bush!
 
2013-09-29 11:59:38 AM  

Bit'O'Gristle: Gee, islamic militants killing innocent people to spread the love and teachings of Allah. That is sure to get people on your side and convert. Murder their children, that's sure to make people come to your cause. Assholes.


Not too familiar with the story of Ibrahim are you ?
 
2013-09-29 12:02:47 PM  

WhyteRaven74: Brick-House: And no I do not believe this would solve all the worlds problems, just 80 to 90 percent of them.

then you know very little about the worlds problems.


Removing Chicago would help too. You guys had 400+ homicides last year?  But at least you have very strict gun ownership laws, so you have that going for you.
 
2013-09-29 12:02:57 PM  

IlGreven: Remember the narrative, folks: Guns didn't kill these people; Muslims killed these people.


Thanks for always shining the light of truth on these situations: the guns did all the killing; the Muslims were simply waiting in the car, not realizing what the guns were doing.
 
2013-09-29 12:03:53 PM  
Did NOTread Fark Article.  The dorm that got hit, was it the section that houses all the SCAMMERS?  Gosh I hope so!
 
2013-09-29 12:04:01 PM  
Perhaps if they only had credit cards with which to buy useless shiat, they'd be happier and wouldn't murder people?
 
2013-09-29 12:05:02 PM  
How's that Arab Spring working out for you?
 
2013-09-29 12:05:17 PM  

sethen320: Really? Mass killings in Nigeria are news now?


I know. Who cares about black people, right?
 
2013-09-29 12:05:49 PM  

drjekel_mrhyde: They still have like 40 more to go to catch the west


Does your mom know you're out of the basement?
 
2013-09-29 12:07:26 PM  

here to help: sethen320: Really? Mass killings in Nigeria are news now?

I know. Who cares about black people, right?


Nobody in America.

Shootings in the inner city? *yawn*
White kids shot up? *NASHUNAL AMERGENCIE! BAN ALL GUNSS!*
 
2013-09-29 12:07:37 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: Perhaps if they only had credit cards with which to buy useless shiat food, they'd be happier and wouldn't murder people?


Probably.
 
2013-09-29 12:07:58 PM  
Disapproves

i1.ytimg.com
 
2013-09-29 12:07:58 PM  

dr_blasto: WhyteRaven74: Brick-House: And no I do not believe this would solve all the worlds problems, just 80 to 90 percent of them.

then you know very little about the worlds problems.

Islam: worse than poverty and disease and all but 20% of the world's problems. Brick-House is clearly on the knowledge train!


Much of the poverty stems from Islamists controlling governments.

It was no coincidence that Communist and Muslim countries that do not 1) have a shiat-ton of oil 2) start playing ball with the West are bankrupt.
 
2013-09-29 12:08:00 PM  
de-motivational-posters.com


I know, I know. I'm a dick. Best wishes for all casualties and families of casualties.
 
2013-09-29 12:09:23 PM  

Nemo's Brother: This is frequent in Muslim-dominated countries, unless the dictator (and let's be honest, it is always a dictator) has them locked down with an iron fist.

Certainly not Middle Easter/Arabic/North African culture though. Clearly this is all the fault of George Bush!


Nigeria is not a Muslim majority country.
 
2013-09-29 12:10:48 PM  

dr_blasto: WhyteRaven74: Brick-House: And no I do not believe this would solve all the worlds problems, just 80 to 90 percent of them.

then you know very little about the worlds problems.

Islam: worse than poverty and disease and all but 20% of the world's problems. Brick-House is clearly on the knowledge train!


The primary problem is ignorance. Groups like Boko Haram and their ideological brethren all over the world enforce that ignorance.
 
2013-09-29 12:11:49 PM  
It's nice that the Fark Independents have found a way to feel persecuted by this.
 
2013-09-29 12:12:32 PM  

BolshyGreatYarblocks: Pants full of macaroni!!: davin: Brick-House: If I had the power to snapy fingers and have all Muslims vanish from the earth. Yes I would and I would sleep well at night. And no I do not believe this would solve all the worlds problems, just 80 to 90 percent of them.

We could solve another 15% by euthanizing all those people that categorize based on religious stereotype.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x240]

"It's the way these yellow Muslim devils think.  It's burned into their brains.  'Kill Americans infidels.  Kill, kill.'  They don't respect human life the way we do.  I'd like to take 'em out and shoot 'em."

[weaponsandwarfare.com image 400x500]

"The Oriental doesn't put the same high price on life as the Westerner."

-- Gen. William Westmoreland

Fun fact: Cadet Westmoreland's mess hall task at West Point was to make sure that no African-American cadets ate there.


I'm not sure I can fault the subjective perspective against "the Oriental" coming from a soldier who served during such brutal events as the Rape of Nanking, The Bataan Death March, and the assault on Iwo Jima.  I don't agree with it, but I can see where it might have come from.
 
2013-09-29 12:16:11 PM  

AngryDragon: Eddie Adams from Torrance: Mrbogey: Apparently the idea that the world is round is a western plot to weaken Islam. Also the water cycle is un-Islamic. Rain comes from Allah not condensation!

Those Muslims believe some weird-ass shiat.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to be at church in 26 minutes so I can literally consume the body and blood of Christ.

Not many mall or school attacks by Catholics, in platoon strength with hundreds of casualties, because the heathen Lutherans have a different view on communion nowadays.



You're right, the Catholics tend to use bombs instead.
 
2013-09-29 12:17:12 PM  

legion_of_doo: here to help: sethen320: Really? Mass killings in Nigeria are news now?

I know. Who cares about black people, right?

Nobody in America.

Shootings in the inner city? *yawn*
White kids shot up? *NASHUNAL AMERGENCIE! BAN ALL GUNSS!*


Right.  It's not like our President, who happens to be black, came from a state with one of the worst black neighborhood crime problems (Chicago) or anything.  I mean if that was the case, maybe some attention would be paid to mental health, drugs, poverty, and education.

Never mind, gun control is easier.
 
2013-09-29 12:17:31 PM  
Obviously they need tighter gun control so this kinda thing never happens again.
 
2013-09-29 12:18:18 PM  
Overzealous Panty Raid.
 
2013-09-29 12:19:08 PM  

ox45tallboy: mbillips: Europe and North America went through a similar spasm of violence in the 1970s. led (as in the current case) by young "intellectuals" who had latched onto a utopian philosophy (Communism back then, radical Islam now) that they think can be implemented by violent revolution. They don't have to conspire across national borders; they just subscribe to the same reading list.

Except for it's not "radical Islam" we have to worry about here; we have "citizens militia" groups here in the US trying to instill their paranoid fantasies of everyone wearing a gun and killing anyone who isn't of their particular weird interpretation of Christianity. Radio and TV shysters and charlatans are trying to get people to create their own microcosm society of like-minded individuals and demand the right to walk around everywhere brandishing a firearm.

Blaming crazy attacks on a person's religion is silly. Here in the US, most all of the recent mass shootings have been carried out by Christians, simply because statistically speaking, most people in the US were taken to Christian churches when they were kids. Crazy sometimes overrides the teachings common to all religions of "be good to one another".

While there is no doubt that most all who carry out attacks such as suicide bombings are motivated to give up their lives based on a promise of reward in the afterlife, the people who recruit these individuals and plan and finance these attacks are simply not motivated by religion. They don't hate us for our freedom, they hate us because we're over in their part of the world telling them how to run things, and bribing and cajoling to get things to work out for our advantage to the detriment of the people whose forefathers fought and died for that land.

You want to stop "Islamic terrorism"? Stop farking with countries where Islam is the predominant religion. There is no doubt in my mind that if the US and US-based corporations behaved in this same way to Buddhist countries, a fring ...


They're not attacking Western corporate interests. They're attacking MUSLIMS in order to attempt to subjugate them under the rule of a particularly screwy brand of Islam, as the Taliban did in Afghanistan. The western world certainly good do more to help, but this is a local fight between two philosophies: the first believes that the post-colonial Muslim world should follow the example of India, and become modern, multicultural societies, and the second believes that these countries should return to a fundamentalist sectarian Caliphate as they were in 750 AD. Western companies are HUGELY invested in places like China and India, and yet there are no worldwide insurgencies coming from those locales.
 
2013-09-29 12:19:36 PM  

mbillips: Everyone's aware that most of the victims in these "Muslim" attacks are Muslims, right? This isn't about Islam; it's about a very particular sect of Islam exported by those fundamentalist Salafist shiatheads in Saudi Arabia, and polished to a high crazy in Pakistan. We should be funding the building of Sufi madrassas, and freezing Wahabbi assets.


So then it IS about Islam. Thanks.
 
2013-09-29 12:21:31 PM  

Mrbogey: Sock Ruh Tease: The group called "Learning is Forbidden" attacked a college? Wow, how original.

Actually, it's not that simple. Boko apparently means "non-Islamic knowledge". Pretty much anything derived or generated by non-traditional Islamic groups is sinful. Apparently the idea that the world is round is a western plot to weaken Islam. Also the water cycle is un-Islamic. Rain comes from Allah not condensation!


yerlinky: The group was founded in 2002.

You know what else was founded in 2002?!?, mere months after the Feds told the BBC to lie about WTC7's "controlled demolision" (??!?!!!)

Yeah, you guessed it!
 
2013-09-29 12:22:46 PM  

here to help: You know what all these shootings have in common? The shooters had guns.


unfavorited
 
2013-09-29 12:24:57 PM  

ox45tallboy: Here in the US, most all of the recent mass shootings have been carried out by Christians


[citation needed]

ox45tallboy: They don't hate us for our freedom, they hate us because we're over in their part of the world telling them how to run things, and bribing and cajoling to get things to work out for our advantage to the detriment of the people whose forefathers fought and died for that land.


These people hate us because we're over there telling them how to read and write. How to plant their crops. How to avoid dying at the age of 15 due to hygiene deficiencies.

ox45tallboy: There is no doubt in my mind that if the US and US-based corporations behaved in this same way to Buddhist countries, a fringe Buddhist element would arise and some Buddhist religious leaders would begin promising things in the afterlife for those who gave their lives in the holy war against the infidels.


It's a good thing England never had any invasions and colonization of Buddhist countries. None of them have been Westernized.
 
2013-09-29 12:26:11 PM  
It is the shooters, not the guns.  These people and their ilk have been getting more murderous lately, or maybe we are just hearing about it finally.
 
2013-09-29 12:27:00 PM  

AngryDragon: I mean if that was the case, maybe some attention would be paid to mental health, drugs, poverty, and education.

Never mind, gun control is easier.


Ignoring the fact that the ACA is a start to getting people access to treatment to mental health and addiction issues and not completely wipe out their finances by doing so which would allow people to save for things like college for their kids as well as save the country money in the long run which could be reinvested into education and crime reduction strategies.

And that's just ONE policy. Of course if our friends in the GOP had their way none of it would happen and Obamster and his crew have had to spend an inordinate amount of time simply trying to get it through the door that they even can't get close to focusing on other issues that could help reduce poverty and street crime.

Yup. It's all Ob00ger's fault. What a schlub that guy is.
 
2013-09-29 12:27:15 PM  

Slutter McGee: If only they had eliminated high capacity magazines this might have been stopped.

Slutter McGee


Yeah, Vanity Fair had an awful lot in it this month.
 
2013-09-29 12:28:19 PM  

yookaloco: families of casualties.


why casualties? shouldn't they be seriouslies or something?
 
2013-09-29 12:28:57 PM  

IronTom: It is the shooters, not the guns.  These people and their ilk have been getting more murderous lately, or maybe we are just hearing about it finally.


i.imgur.com
 
2013-09-29 12:29:53 PM  

IronTom: here to help: You know what all these shootings have in common? The shooters had guns.

unfavorited


lol... you didn't know I was for (reasonable) gun control? I ain't sayin' totally disarm the population. I'm against that. I just don't feel comfortable with the idea any psychopath can snag a weapon capable of wiping out a room of people in seconds without anyone even bothering to make sure he isn't the next Hitler.
 
2013-09-29 12:31:32 PM  
Those 72 virgins really must be hot for cowards eh?
 
2013-09-29 12:33:50 PM  

ox45tallboy: Except for it's not "radical Islam" we have to worry about here; we have "citizens militia" groups here in the US trying to instill their paranoid fantasies of everyone wearing a gun and killing anyone who isn't of their particular weird interpretation of Christianity. Radio and TV shysters and charlatans are trying to get people to create their own microcosm society of like-minded individuals and demand the right to walk around everywhere brandishing a firearm.

Blaming crazy attacks on a person's religion is silly. Here in the US, most all of the recent mass shootings have been carried out by Christians, simply because statistically speaking, most people in the US were taken to Christian churches when they were kids. Crazy sometimes overrides the teachings common to all religions of "be good to one another".

While there is no doubt that most all who carry out attacks such as suicide bombings are motivated to give up their lives based on a promise of reward in the afterlife, the people who recruit these individuals and plan and finance these attacks are simply not motivated by religion. They don't hate us for our freedom, they hate us because we're over in their part of the world telling them how to run things, and bribing and cajoling to get things to work out for our advantage to the detriment of the people whose forefathers fought and died for that land.

You want to stop "Islamic terrorism"? Stop farking with countries where Islam is the predominant religion. There is no doubt in my mind that if the US and US-based corporations behaved in this same way to Buddhist countries, a fringe Buddhist element would arise and some Buddhist religious leaders would begin promising things in the afterlife for those who gave their lives in the holy war against the infidels.

Blaming Islam every time there is an attack by crazy people is as silly as blaming Christianity for Eric Rudolph, who claimed he was carrying out God's work. Try this on for size: "If we banned ...


Every single statement made in this wall of text is laughably wrong. It is the absolute conviction and earnestness you seem to show that makes it scary. Nothing you wrote is right and if anyone agrees with you they are just as wrong as you are. Please dont anyone believe any of this.
 
2013-09-29 12:34:09 PM  

catmandu: Can we have some kind of plague quickly spread over the world and take about 40-50% of the inhabitants? The Earth is in need of another cleansing.


Isn't that why the Muzzies are here?

mbillips: They're not attacking Western corporate interests. They're attacking MUSLIMS in order to attempt to subjugate them under the rule of a particularly screwy brand of Islam, as the Taliban did in Afghanistan. The western world certainly good do more to help, but this is a local fight between two philosophies: the first believes that the post-colonial Muslim world should follow the example of India, and become modern, multicultural societies, and the second believes that these countries should return to a fundamentalist sectarian Caliphate as they were in 750 AD. Western companies are HUGELY invested in places like China and India, and yet there are no worldwide insurgencies coming from those locales.


There are Muslim problems in China and India. I agree, they're not battling Western expansion, but trying to establish their own governance. 

Read about the Uyghur ethnic group and the Eastern Turkistan Islamic Movement (both Chinese) who are responsible for 100s of deaths and 1000s wounded.  Thailand and Philippians, too.
 
2013-09-29 12:34:26 PM  

here to help: IronTom: here to help: You know what all these shootings have in common? The shooters had guns.

unfavorited

lol... you didn't know I was for (reasonable) gun control? I ain't sayin' totally disarm the population. I'm against that. I just don't feel comfortable with the idea any psychopath can snag a weapon capable of wiping out a room of people in seconds without anyone even bothering to make sure he isn't the next Hitler.


How about registration?
 
2013-09-29 12:38:29 PM  

Phil Moskowitz: yookaloco: families of casualties.

why casualties? shouldn't they be seriouslies or something?


Interesting made up word. I'm not 100% on your point, but if I had to guess, it's that you are unfamiliar with the literal definition of casualty. This is not uncommon.

"In civilian usage the word "casualty" is properly used for a person who is killed, wounded or injured by some event, and is usually used to describe multiple deaths and injuries due to violent incidents or disasters. Casualties is sometimes loosely used or (mis)understood to mean fatalities, but non-fatal injuries are also casualties. "

 - Wikipedia
 
2013-09-29 12:40:55 PM  

Nemo's Brother: dr_blasto: WhyteRaven74: Brick-House: And no I do not believe this would solve all the worlds problems, just 80 to 90 percent of them.

then you know very little about the worlds problems.

Islam: worse than poverty and disease and all but 20% of the world's problems. Brick-House is clearly on the knowledge train!

Much of the poverty stems from Islamists controlling governments.

It was no coincidence that Communist and Muslim countries that do not 1) have a shiat-ton of oil 2) start playing ball with the West are bankrupt.


That's not really true. Most of the countries overrun with Islamist theocratic governments were poor before that. Even the ones with oil and playing ball with the West; those theocratic governments were a direct result of mistreatment of the poor classes and were either used to control them or were just the poor people finding something to look to outside of their own abject poverty.

Playing ball with the West hasn't worked out well for almost anybody regardless of how much oil they've got.
 
2013-09-29 12:41:34 PM  
I think that subby wanted to say foreign instead of international. There was only one nation involved, not several.
 
2013-09-29 12:42:16 PM  

here to help: IronTom: here to help: You know what all these shootings have in common? The shooters had guns.

unfavorited

lol... you didn't know I was for (reasonable) gun control? I ain't sayin' totally disarm the population. I'm against that. I just don't feel comfortable with the idea any psychopath can snag a weapon capable of wiping out a room of people in seconds without anyone even bothering to make sure he isn't the next Hitler.


The problem is the definition of what a mental issue is can change very easily at the whim of the government. So if a government were so inclined to limit citizens access to guns, it would make it all the easier.

/the next Hitler. Funny that Hitler was all for gun control

/BTW, the next Greenwald story coming out is about the American assassination program. This is not a government we can be comfortable taking our guns away
 
2013-09-29 12:44:22 PM  

Mrbogey: Sock Ruh Tease: The group called "Learning is Forbidden" attacked a college? Wow, how original.

Actually, it's not that simple. Boko apparently means "non-Islamic knowledge". Pretty much anything derived or generated by non-traditional Islamic groups is sinful. Apparently the idea that the world is round is a western plot to weaken Islam. Also the water cycle is un-Islamic. Rain comes from Allah not condensation!


indarwinsshadow: Anyone read the wiki on the group and it's leader.

"In a 2009 BBC interview, Mohammed Yusuf, then leader of the group, stated his belief that the concept of a spherical Earth is contrary to Islamic teaching and should be rejected, along with Darwinian evolution and the concept of rain originating from water evaporated by the sun."


Holy crap, I thought Mrbogey was exaggerating.

Good thing we don't have people like that on this half of the planet.

/oh... crap.
 
2013-09-29 12:48:42 PM  

uber humper: Funny that Hitler was all for gun control


incorrect.

yookaloco: Phil Moskowitz: yookaloco: families of casualties.

why casualties? shouldn't they be seriouslies or something?

Interesting made up word. I'm not 100% on your point, but if I had to guess, it's that you are unfamiliar with the literal definition of casualty. This is not uncommon.

"In civilian usage the word "casualty" is properly used for a person who is killed, wounded or injured by some event, and is usually used to describe multiple deaths and injuries due to violent incidents or disasters. Casualties is sometimes loosely used or (mis)understood to mean fatalities, but non-fatal injuries are also casualties. "

 - Wikipedia


As I casually read this, from my couch, I seriously decided to get up and walk to my kitchen.
 
2013-09-29 12:53:02 PM  

dr_blasto: uber humper: Funny that Hitler was all for gun control

incorrect.


11 November 1938

With a basis in § 31 of the Weapons Law of 18 March 1928 (Reichsgesetzblatt I, p. 265), Article III of the Law on the Reunification of Austria with Germany of 13 March 1938 (Reichsgesetzblatt I, p. 237), and § 9 of the Fuhrer and Chancellor's decree on the administration of the Sudeten-German districts of 1 October 1928 (Reichsgesetzblatt 1, p. 1331 ) are the following ordered:

§ 1

Jews (§ 5 of the First Regulations of the German Citizenship Law of 14 November 1935, Reichsgesetzblatt 1, p. 1332) are prohibited from acquiring. Possessing, and carrying firearms and ammunition, as well as truncheons or stabbing weapons. Those now possessing weapons and ammunition are at once to turn them over to the local police authority.

§ 2

Firearms and ammunition found in a Jew's possession will be forfeited to the government without compensation.

§ 3

The Minister of the Interior may make exceptions to the Prohibition in § 1 for Jews who are foreign nationals. He can entrust other authorities with this power.

§ 4

Whoever willfully or negligently violates the provisions of § 1 will be punished with imprisonment and a fine. In especially severe cases of deliberate violations, the punishment is imprisonment in a penitentiary for up to five years.

§ 5

For the implementation if this regulation, the Minister of the Interior waives the necessary legal and administrative provisions.

§ 6

This regulation is valid in the state of Austria and in the Sudeten-German districts.

Berlin, 11 November 1938Minister of the InteriorFrick

 
2013-09-29 12:57:39 PM  

Mrbogey: ox45tallboy: Here in the US, most all of the recent mass shootings have been carried out by Christians

[citation needed]


[citation provided]

Mrbogey: These people hate us because we're over there telling them how to read and write. How to plant their crops. How to avoid dying at the age of 15 due to hygiene deficiencies.


How to use bigger and better guns to kill each other. And hey, here's some guns for you to use! And here's some chemical weapons!

Here's a brief rundown on the history of the mujahideen in Afghanistan, and the support provided to them by Americans. After Russia left, we stopped providing support, and then there was nothing but a war-torn country used for a proxy war between the US and the Soviets. Out of these ashes rose a deep hatred for the Americans who had fought their war on Afghani land and using Afghani troops. They chose a new name for themselves - the Taliban.

(I realize this is an oversimplification, but it's far more accurate than "they hate us for our freedoms")

The US does lots of good in the world. A LOT of good. We help tons of people in all kinds of different countries with food and disease prevention. But we also do a lot of things we should be ashamed of. The way we treated Afghanistan in the 1980's is one of these things, and I firmly believe that the most accurate statement ever uttered about 9/11 was made by Obama's former pastor Jeremiah Wright - "America's chickens were comin' home to roost". (Not to say I agree with other crap he said, but that one statement was absolutely true).

Mrbogey: It's a good thing England never had any invasions and colonization of Buddhist countries. None of them have been Westernized.


Hmmm, and none of the non-Muslim countries ever had an armed uprising against them, involving terroristic attacks against civilians, did they? Oh wait...
 
2013-09-29 12:57:41 PM  

IronTom: How about registration?


I had a plan all put together for another thread a while back that I won't bother typing up but it avoids the whole registration issue. Basically you want to own guns go to get certified (training) and a background check then you are issued a card. Now you can buy all the guns you want. It must be renewed every two years or so by completing a simple form just to make sure you haven't been knocking off liquor stores or ended up in the RICO system. There is kind of a registration "scheme" but it is voluntary (kind of) but it'll take too long to describe but it really does go above and beyond to protect the identity of truly responsible gun owners and is more to protect them than anything

As ex-military I'm sure you understand the importance and value of proper training going a LOOOONG way to make sure people don't f*ck around with their weapons. It would have to be instituted at a federal level though so every state has the same laws and procedures.
 
2013-09-29 12:58:52 PM  

farkingismybusiness: Overzealous Panty Raid.


There goes my coffee.
 
2013-09-29 12:59:58 PM  

IlGreven: Remember the narrative, folks: Guns didn't kill these people; Muslims killed these people.


The other narrative is that strict gun control prevents things like this from happening.

Nigeria - Gun Facts, Figures and the Law
Right to Possess Firearms
In Nigeria, the right to private gun ownership is not guaranteed by law

Prohibited Firearms and Ammunition
In Nigeria, civilians are not allowed to possess machine-guns, military rifles and handguns

Regulation of Automatic Assault Weapons
In Nigeria, private possession of fully automatic weapons is prohibited

Regulation of Semiautomatic Assault Weapons
In Nigeria, private possession of semi-automatic assault weapons is prohibited

Regulation of Handguns
In Nigeria, private possession of handguns (pistols and revolvers) is prohibited

Gun Owner Licensing
In Nigeria, only licensed gun owners may lawfully acquire, possess or transfer a firearm or ammunition

Gun Owner Background Checks
An applicant for a firearm licence in Nigeria must pass background checks which consider criminal, mental and addiction records

Gun Owner Licensing Period
In Nigeria gun owners must re-apply and re-qualify for their firearm licence every 1 year
Kenya - Gun Facts, Figures and the Law

Right to Possess Firearms
In Kenya, the right to private gun ownership is not guaranteed by law

Prohibited Firearms and Ammunition


In Kenya, civilians are not allowed to possess automatic and semi-automatic self-loading military assault rifles of 7.62mm or 5.56mm calibre, or of any other calibre from time to time specified by the Minister, or firearms fitted with sound suppressors, or AK-47, G3 and MP5 and other similar firearms as may be specified by the Minister


Regulation of Automatic Assault Weapons
In Kenya, private possession of fully automatic weapons is prohibited

Regulation of Semiautomatic Assault Weapons
In Kenya, private possession of semi-automatic assault weapons is prohibited


Regulation of Handguns
In Kenya, private possession of handguns (pistols and revolvers) is permitted under license

Gun Owner Licensing
In Kenya, only licensed gun owners43 44 may lawfully acquire, possess or transfer a firearm or ammunition

Gun Owner Background Checks
An applicant for a firearm license in Kenya must pass background checks which consider criminal, mental, and domestic violence records

Domestic Violence and Firearms
Where a past history, or apprehended likelihood of family violence exists, the law in Kenya stipulates that a gun license should be denied or revoked

Gun Owner Licensing Period
In Kenya gun owners must re-apply and re-qualify for their firearm licence every 1 year
 
2013-09-29 01:00:26 PM  

walkingtall: Every single statement made in this wall of text is laughably wrong. It is the absolute conviction and earnestness you seem to show that makes it scary. Nothing you wrote is right and if anyone agrees with you they are just as wrong as you are. Please dont anyone believe any of this.


www.liketotally80s.com
"...and we thank you for your support."
 
2013-09-29 01:02:44 PM  

uber humper: So if a government were so inclined to limit citizens access to guns, it would make it all the easier.


And that's why it would be hinged on a strict medical definition and codified into the 2nd so it can't be f*cked with on a whim. Exhibit X amount of symptoms of paranoid schizophrenia? No gun for you.
 
2013-09-29 01:05:41 PM  

Mister Peejay: Mrbogey: Sock Ruh Tease: The group called "Learning is Forbidden" attacked a college? Wow, how original.

Actually, it's not that simple. Boko apparently means "non-Islamic knowledge". Pretty much anything derived or generated by non-traditional Islamic groups is sinful. Apparently the idea that the world is round is a western plot to weaken Islam. Also the water cycle is un-Islamic. Rain comes from Allah not condensation!

indarwinsshadow: Anyone read the wiki on the group and it's leader.

"In a 2009 BBC interview, Mohammed Yusuf, then leader of the group, stated his belief that the concept of a spherical Earth is contrary to Islamic teaching and should be rejected, along with Darwinian evolution and the concept of rain originating from water evaporated by the sun."

Holy crap, I thought Mrbogey was exaggerating.

Good thing we don't have people like that on this half of the planet.

/oh... crap.


What shape could they possibly think the world could be? Considering you can fly around the entire world in a day, I'm not sure how they can be this stupid.
 
2013-09-29 01:06:13 PM  
www.magicapplenigerians.com
Nigerians please!
 
2013-09-29 01:08:06 PM  

uber humper: dr_blasto: uber humper: Funny that Hitler was all for gun control


Dude, nobody would argue that Hitler was all about hating on the Jews-ensuring they were disarmed was part of the process for making them lesser citizens or, rather, not even citizens.

Hitler undid the earlier gun controls over non-Jewish Germans. He was not all for gun control and probably gave zero farks about it.
 
2013-09-29 01:10:40 PM  

dr_blasto: uber humper: dr_blasto: uber humper: Funny that Hitler was all for gun control

Dude, nobody would argue that Hitler was all about hating on the Jews-ensuring they were disarmed was part of the process for making them lesser citizens or, rather, not even citizens.

Hitler undid the earlier gun controls over non-Jewish Germans. He was not all for gun control and probably gave zero farks about it.


That's gun control. It's necessary to subjugate a population.  Probably the first step.
 
2013-09-29 01:17:08 PM  

uber humper: dr_blasto: uber humper: dr_blasto: uber humper: Funny that Hitler was all for gun control

Dude, nobody would argue that Hitler was all about hating on the Jews-ensuring they were disarmed was part of the process for making them lesser citizens or, rather, not even citizens.

Hitler undid the earlier gun controls over non-Jewish Germans. He was not all for gun control and probably gave zero farks about it.

That's gun control. It's necessary to subjugate a population.  Probably the first step.


Meh. I'll disagree. It was just another method to isolate a specific group of people, one of many methods employed at the time. Gun control for the sake of controlling the proliferation of firearms inside their borders was not in any way part of the deal. Using it as a "OMG Hitler was pro- gun control" as some sort of anti- gun control or attempt to paint the opposition in a bad light is historically inaccurate and disingenuous at best.

There are plenty of legitimate arguments to use. Stick to those.
 
2013-09-29 01:18:31 PM  

dr_blasto: Meh. I'll disagree. It was just another method to isolate a specific group of people, one of many methods employed at the time. Gun control for the sake of controlling the proliferation of firearms inside their borders was not in any way part of the deal. Using it as a "OMG Hitler was pro- gun control" as some sort of anti- gun control or attempt to paint the opposition in a bad light is historically inaccurate and disingenuous at best.

There are plenty of legitimate arguments to use. Stick to those.


it was a snarky comment in a slashy. Get your panties out of a wad.
 
2013-09-29 01:24:49 PM  

hasty ambush: In Kenya, the right to private gun ownership is not guaranteed by law


so, (and just to clarify here) you are... anti-obama, huh(?)
 
2013-09-29 01:27:46 PM  

uber humper: dr_blasto: Meh. I'll disagree. It was just another method to isolate a specific group of people, one of many methods employed at the time. Gun control for the sake of controlling the proliferation of firearms inside their borders was not in any way part of the deal. Using it as a "OMG Hitler was pro- gun control" as some sort of anti- gun control or attempt to paint the opposition in a bad light is historically inaccurate and disingenuous at best.

There are plenty of legitimate arguments to use. Stick to those.

it was a snarky comment in a slashy. Get your panties out of a wad.


I'm hung over and cranky. Those panties will remain in a wad until I feel better.
 
2013-09-29 01:30:57 PM  
Even though this thread has moved on I was trying post the following but kept getting the hairy armed drunk server guy page:

I'm actually not stating my case very well today (other stuff on my mind) so I won't attempt trying to remember the details of my plan but it had quite a few of the REASONABLE gun dudes agreeing with me. Nutbags can't even agree with each other so they don't matter.

Now in regards to the Hitler comment... Hitler may have disarmed the Jews but he DIDN'T DISARM HIMSELF!!

I was saying giving a modern day Hitler an AK might be a bad idea... yanno... because he might use it to disarm others and kill the f*ck out of them... because he was fookin' cray cray.

But we're all used to gun noodlers not making any bleeding sense whatsoever so I guess it should have been expected.

...

and the hairy man appears again... Jesus, Drew.
 
2013-09-29 01:31:09 PM  

uttertosh: You know what else was founded in 2002?!?, mere months after the Feds told the BBC to lie about WTC7's "controlled demolision" (??!?!!!)

Yeah, you guessed it!


awww, eff it... you trolls don't care anyway, so here - this is also what was founded in 2002. (like you GOP twunts know how hyperlinking works any better than the libslibslibs do)
 
2013-09-29 01:34:08 PM  

dr_blasto: uber humper: dr_blasto: Meh. I'll disagree. It was just another method to isolate a specific group of people, one of many methods employed at the time. Gun control for the sake of controlling the proliferation of firearms inside their borders was not in any way part of the deal. Using it as a "OMG Hitler was pro- gun control" as some sort of anti- gun control or attempt to paint the opposition in a bad light is historically inaccurate and disingenuous at best.

There are plenty of legitimate arguments to use. Stick to those.

it was a snarky comment in a slashy. Get your panties out of a wad.

I'm hung over and cranky. Those panties will remain in a wad until I feel better.


echo that
 
2013-09-29 01:40:36 PM  
I'm surprised these particular islamist psychopaths made the mainstream news.  They generally commit mass murder of christians at least once a week for the past decade.  Never seemed to bother Western media before.  Their favorite is bombing christian churches.  Yay Islam!!  (farking nutjobs)
 
2013-09-29 01:45:38 PM  

drjekel_mrhyde: They still have like 40 more to go to catch the west


Oh, they've caught up and zoomed past us a long time ago. The reason it doesn't seem so is because the media is only just starting to pay attention to that area now because it has discovered those stories are ratings/click goldmines.
 
2013-09-29 01:51:53 PM  
On the upside it looks like the US is back to exporting something at least.
 
2013-09-29 01:54:18 PM  

here to help: IronTom: How about registration?

I had a plan all put together for another thread a while back that I won't bother typing up but it avoids the whole registration issue. Basically you want to own guns go to get certified (training) and a background check then you are issued a card. Now you can buy all the guns you want. It must be renewed every two years or so by completing a simple form just to make sure you haven't been knocking off liquor stores or ended up in the RICO system. There is kind of a registration "scheme" but it is voluntary (kind of) but it'll take too long to describe but it really does go above and beyond to protect the identity of truly responsible gun owners and is more to protect them than anything

As ex-military I'm sure you understand the importance and value of proper training going a LOOOONG way to make sure people don't f*ck around with their weapons. It would have to be instituted at a federal level though so every state has the same laws and procedures.


What if they don't follow your regulations,. confiscation?
 
2013-09-29 01:55:35 PM  

Apik0r0s: [ecx.images-amazon.com image 224x346]
This book's predictions about Islam were dead nuts on.


Looks interesting. Too bad it's not out on kindle.
 
2013-09-29 02:00:34 PM  

One Bad Apple: IlGreven: Remember the narrative, folks: Guns didn't kill these people; Muslims killed these people.




Laughs at your inefficient gun method


This thread is about Muslim terrorism. If you want to talk atheist terrorism, submit your own link.
 
2013-09-29 02:10:30 PM  
Oh so shocking to kill students.
In 'Murica, the rightwing governments just replace factual teachings with creationism and herpaderp. It helps to keep people stupid in order to create new cannon fodder for idiotic wars for oil and religious supremacy.
 
2013-09-29 02:15:00 PM  

ox45tallboy: Mrbogey: ox45tallboy: Here in the US, most all of the recent mass shootings have been carried out by Christians

[citation needed]

[citation provided]


[Citation rejected] It seems like the article just talks about it but doesn't actually do much to establish the religious motivations behind the bulk of American mass shootings.
 
How to use bigger and better guns to kill each other. And hey, here's some guns for you to use! And here's some chemical weapons!


Do you have evidence that America in Nigeria, this university in particular, was doing such?

Here's a brief rundown on the history of the mujahideen in Afghanistan, and the support provided to them by Americans. After Russia left, we stopped providing support, and then there was nothing but a war-torn country used for a proxy war between the US and the Soviets. Out of these ashes rose a deep hatred for the Americans who had fought their war on Afghani land and using Afghani troops. They chose a new name for themselves - the Taliban.

(I realize this is an oversimplification, but it's far more accurate than "they hate us for our freedoms")


Yes, it screws up how the Taliban was actually formed.

The US does lots of good in the world. A LOT of good. We help tons of people in all kinds of different countries with food and disease prevention. But we also do a lot of things we should be ashamed of. The way we treated Afghanistan in the 1980's is one of these things, and I firmly believe that the most accurate statement ever uttered about 9/11 was made by Obama's former pastor Jeremiah Wright - "America's chickens were comin' home to roost". (Not to say I agree with other crap he said, but that one statement was absolutely true).

Hmmm, and none of the non-Muslim countries ever had an armed uprising against them, involving terroristic attacks against civilians, did they? Oh wait...


You're moving goalposts. Why aren't Chinese nationals attacking the US/UK due to the Opium Wars?
 
2013-09-29 02:18:19 PM  
There sure is a lot of dhimmis in this thread.  I ought to back out before they blow the shiat out of it
 
2013-09-29 02:18:23 PM  

IronTom: What if they don't follow your regulations,. confiscation?


Don't have the license/training? Anything beyond simple hunting rifles for rural residents are subject to confiscation, yes. If you screw up with even them then you get a court ordered ban from owning even those. That's how it's done in Canuckerland and most of the thug life gun crimes that happen up there are done with guns smuggled in from the US.

Why do you hate Canada?
 
2013-09-29 02:23:21 PM  

sheep snorter: in 'Murica, the rightwing governments just replace factual teachings with creationism and herpaderp. It helps to keep people stupid in order to create new cannon fodder for idiotic wars for oil and religious supremacy.


One of the dumbest thing I've read all year. It's so wrong, that to understand how wrong it is, I had to go back and think about what other untruths you must believe, and the total lack of critical thinking that helped you arrive there. It would take an essay just to address how truly stupid just your first sentence is.
 
2013-09-29 02:31:53 PM  
So because it happened in a building it is different than the rest of their days gunning each other down in the streets?
 
2013-09-29 02:34:24 PM  
Another example of the "Religion of Peace".  Why is it that when Muslims murder other people, media outlets avoid "Islam" or "Muslims" in the headline, and instead mention their country?   It's almost like the liberal media doesn't want people to realize about Islam.....oh, never mind.
 
2013-09-29 02:36:26 PM  

Mattoon: Another example of the "Religion of Peace".  Why is it that when Muslims murder other people, media outlets avoid "Islam" or "Muslims" in the headline, and instead mention their country?   It's almost like the liberal media doesn't want people to realize about Islam.....oh, never mind.


ZOMG DHIMMEDIA!!!1!
 
2013-09-29 02:42:22 PM  

Mrbogey: It seems like the article just talks about it but doesn't actually do much to establish the religious motivations behind the bulk of American mass shootings.


I wasn't attempting to show any religious motivation behind the shooters, just point out their religion. The point is that when a Muslim carries out an atrocity, it's automatically attributed to "Islamic fundamentalism", but when a Christian does the same thing, it's because he was crazy and had NOTHING to do with his religion (even when it is someone such as Eric Rudolph whose motivations were clearly due to his religious beliefs.)

Mrbogey: Do you have evidence that America in Nigeria, this university in particular, was doing such?


Of course not, and I do not believe it to be the case. However, my point was that automatically attributing the motivations of those who carry out any kind of terroristic attack to "islamic fundamentalism", or subscribing to the mistaken belief that getting rid of Islam will eliminate these kinds of attacks is seriously misguided and inaccurate.

Mrbogey: Yes, it screws up how the Taliban was actually formed.


Would you argue that "they hate us for our freedoms/ failure to subscribe to their religion" is more accurate?

Mrbogey: You're moving goalposts. Why aren't Chinese nationals attacking the US/UK due to the Opium Wars?


Because China won the "opium wars" (they got the West out of their lives), and they're strong enough as a people that their government isn't being bought out anymore to a large degree by outside influences. The reason they're not big on religion is precisely the same reason Saddam Hussein ran a secular nation tolerant of Christianity - Saddam/the Chinese Communist Party did not want any religious leaders criticizing their actions, or possibly influencing the people more so than themselves.

I don't think it is "moving the goalposts" to suggest that if any religious people were oppressed and mistreated enough by an outside power, they might find extremists in any religion who suggest it is one's duty to their god to fight the infidels, as well as many people who will listen. It just so happens that the Middle East is predominately Muslim, and it is an accident of geography (read:proximity to Russia) and natural resources (read:oil) that other countries are not acting in their best interests. Did not our own fight against oppression (the American Revolution) reference God and religion (in the Declaration of Independence) in such a way that made it seem as if King George were going against the will of "their Creator"?
 
2013-09-29 02:43:36 PM  

Mrbogey: I like their anglicized name- The Congregation and People of Tradition for Proselytism and Jihad.

Whole lot of proselytism going on. And people thought proselytizers in the US were jerks.


Still reminds me of that Lord of War quote: "Every faction in Africa calls themselves by these noble names - Liberation this, Patriotic that, Democratic Republic of something-or-other... I guess they can't own up to what they usually are: the Federation of Worse Oppressors Than the Last Bunch of Oppressors. Often, the most barbaric atrocities occur when both combatants proclaim themselves Freedom Fighters."
 
2013-09-29 02:48:02 PM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: Mattoon: Another example of the "Religion of Peace".  Why is it that when Muslims murder other people, media outlets avoid "Islam" or "Muslims" in the headline, and instead mention their country?   It's almost like the liberal media doesn't want people to realize about Islam.....oh, never mind.

ZOMG DHIMMEDIA!!!1!


So the poll surveying what news network people watched and if they thought Saddam Hussein had any connection to 9/11 was just "dhimmedia?"
 
2013-09-29 02:48:02 PM  

USP .45: sheep snorter: in 'Murica, the rightwing governments just replace factual teachings with creationism and herpaderp. It helps to keep people stupid in order to create new cannon fodder for idiotic wars for oil and religious supremacy.

One of the dumbest thing I've read all year. It's so wrong, that to understand how wrong it is, I had to go back and think about what other untruths you must believe, and the total lack of critical thinking that helped you arrive there. It would take an essay just to address how truly stupid just your first sentence is.


Fine, granted.

But, address the second sentence (my emphasis in bold) and you find that it's the basis of all western politics, regardless of which side. (prove me wrong - in less than an essay, plz)
 
2013-09-29 02:49:24 PM  

Mattoon: Another example of the "Religion of Peace".  Why is it that when Muslims murder other people, media outlets avoid "Islam" or "Muslims" in the headline, and instead mention their country?   It's almost like the liberal media doesn't want people to realize about Islam.....oh, never mind.


So why no focus on the religious affiliations of people like Eric Rudolph or Wade Michael Page? How about the IRA, or the Soweto Bombings in South Africa? It's almost like the liberal media doesn't want people to realize about Christianity... oh, never mind.
 
2013-09-29 02:52:51 PM  

strife: Mrbogey: I like their anglicized name- The Congregation and People of Tradition for Proselytism and Jihad.

Whole lot of proselytism going on. And people thought proselytizers in the US were jerks.

Still reminds me of that Lord of War quote: "Every faction in Africa calls themselves by these noble names - Liberation this, Patriotic that, Democratic Republic of something-or-other... I guess they can't own up to what they usually are: the Federation of Worse Oppressors Than the Last Bunch of Oppressors. Often, the most barbaric atrocities occur when both combatants proclaim themselves Freedom Fighters."


If I were ever to create a militant faction in an armed uprising, I would call it something along the lines of NABATOG: "Not As Bad As The Other Guys", and actually try to be that.
 
2013-09-29 02:54:18 PM  

ox45tallboy: I wasn't attempting to show any religious motivation behind the shooters, just point out their religion. The point is that when a Muslim carries out an atrocity, it's automatically attributed to "Islamic fundamentalism", but when a Christian does the same thing, it's because he was crazy and had NOTHING to do with his religion (even when it is someone such as Eric Rudolph whose motivations were clearly due to his religious beliefs.)


A group of Muslims who do something and say they did it because of Islam can't be taken at their word? These aren't non-muslims saying they did this due to religion. This is what they're saying. Nobody's saying Eric Rudolph did what he did free of religion. It's acknowledged he's a religious assailant. The assertion made was that mass shootings in America are because of Christianity.

ox45tallboy: Of course not, and I do not believe it to be the case. However, my point was that automatically attributing the motivations of those who carry out any kind of terroristic attack to "islamic fundamentalism", or subscribing to the mistaken belief that getting rid of Islam will eliminate these kinds of attacks is seriously misguided and inaccurate.


Again, you fall back to arguing that we can't take their word for why they commit these attacks.

ox45tallboy: Would you argue that "they hate us for our freedoms/ failure to subscribe to their religion" is more accurate?


They're both equally inaccurate. They hate us for our heresy would be more accurate.

ox45tallboy: Because China won the "opium wars" (they got the West out of their lives)


You're farking with me, right? Right?
 
2013-09-29 02:55:30 PM  

strife: Mrbogey: I like their anglicized name- The Congregation and People of Tradition for Proselytism and Jihad.

Whole lot of proselytism going on. And people thought proselytizers in the US were jerks.

Still reminds me of that Lord of War quote: "Every faction in Africa calls themselves by these noble names - Liberation this, Patriotic that, Democratic Republic of something-or-other... I guess they can't own up to what they usually are: the Federation of Worse Oppressors Than the Last Bunch of Oppressors. Often, the most barbaric atrocities occur when both combatants proclaim themselves Freedom Fighters."


I sorta like the Hell's Angels. It's not like they're trying to make themselves look like the good guys.
 
2013-09-29 03:05:26 PM  

uttertosh: USP .45: sheep snorter: in 'Murica, the rightwing governments just replace factual teachings with creationism and herpaderp. It helps to keep people stupid in order to create new cannon fodder for idiotic wars for oil and religious supremacy.

One of the dumbest thing I've read all year. It's so wrong, that to understand how wrong it is, I had to go back and think about what other untruths you must believe, and the total lack of critical thinking that helped you arrive there. It would take an essay just to address how truly stupid just your first sentence is.

Fine, granted.

But, address the second sentence (my emphasis in bold) and you find that it's the basis of all western politics, regardless of which side. (prove me wrong - in less than an essay, plz)


I think he means that most Americans do understand the concept of evolution, and those who believe in young-earth creationism are in a (albeit very vocal) minority. Evolution is taught in our schools. We fund science research to discover more about the world around us. I believe this wave of religious conservatism is an aberration that will soon rectify itself when the Republican Party purges itself of the Tea Party.

But I do agree that religion has been used throughout recorded history to justify completely illogical actions (dying in a war, or worse, killing other people, especially the innocent) that further the goals of those in power.
 
2013-09-29 03:16:23 PM  
Hopefully someone already said this but, this is AFRICA people. Nations across the globe ship weapons to every militia and splinter group that exists on the continent. Arguing either side of gun control in regards to this tragedy and trying to tie it back to the debate in America is beyond retarded. Please, stop it.

Also, to the person above who said you don't see Catholics doing this, do a quick Google search on the Army of God and their mission to spread Catholicism throughout Uganda via murder. Let's just admit that Islam/any religion is just an excuse for violent, genocidal people to get their violent, genocidal tendencies out.
 
2013-09-29 03:16:59 PM  

uttertosh: But, address the second sentence (my emphasis in bold) and you find that it's the basis of all western politics, regardless of which side. (prove me wrong - in less than an essay, plz)


I won't try and prove you wrong for a comment you didn't make, but I'll address two key phrases.

Religious supremacy? I reject that outright. The Islamic caliphate spans half the globe and is taking up root very rapidly in "western" societies as those same societies drift from religion. If the west's policy is religious supremacy then it's so ineffectual that it fails to even be called a policy.

"Wars for oil." Trade agreements, disputes, and interruptions aren't new. The reason it's even an issue is because you have governments and people who have embraced globalization v. those who are hostile to it on political and religious grounds - Islamists. Imagine if most of the world's semiconductors came out of the middle east and you have radical elements trying to disrupt that trade. These things are too vital for daily life to not have freely available.
 
2013-09-29 03:20:27 PM  

Verdelak: Arguing either side of gun control in regards to this tragedy and trying to tie it back to the debate in America is beyond retarded. Please, stop it.


FTFY to apply to more fark threads.
 
2013-09-29 03:21:14 PM  

Mrbogey: A group of Muslims who do something and say they did it because of Islam can't be taken at their word? These aren't non-muslims saying they did this due to religion. This is what they're saying. Nobody's saying Eric Rudolph did what he did free of religion. It's acknowledged he's a religious assailant. The assertion made was that mass shootings in America are because of Christianity


Actually, no. My assertion was that most mass shooters in the United States were Christian. My other related assertion was that their religion had about as much to do with their horrible actions as the religion of people from the Middle East who finance and plan acts of terror - in other words, not much.

I followed this with the corollary that religion should not always be automatically assigned as the motivation for an atrocity when the perpetrator is one religion (Muslim) but not another (Christian). If we wish to assign blame based on religion, we should do it across the board, or we could wait for the facts to come in and realize that there is more to this "Muslims are terrorists" thing than what meets the eye.

Mrbogey: Again, you fall back to arguing that we can't take their word for why they commit these attacks.


Most all of those committing the worst atrocities are dead. What word?

If you mean the "mission statements" or whatever put out by the organization that trained them and plotted and financed the attack, then yes, I agree, you cannot take them at their word. They are in the business of recruiting more people for these attacks, not carrying them out themselves. If they really felt blowing yourself up and killing civilians was the highest duty you could do for your god, then they would be doing it themselves instead of trying to get other people to do it for them.

Mrbogey: They're both equally inaccurate. They hate us for our heresy would be more accurate.


No. No, no, no.

While some may "hate us for our heresy", do you really think someone who just wants to live their life, even to the glory of their god, is going to go commit suicide and kill other people just because they think the other people worship a false god? The usual profile for a suicide bomber is someone who has lost someone close to them (spouse, family member) through acts of war by the other side. It is not some person who has a stable home or family life, absent some kind of mental illness. They NEED some other reason to hate, to see the other side as devils, or they need to be mentally ill.

I repeat my assertion that they hate us for our actions, not for our beliefs.

Mrbogey: You're farking with me, right? Right?


China is a nuclear power and is the second largest economy in the world. They sell us cheap, lead-painted crap and we keep coming back for more. They trade openly with Iran, who is under UN sanctions due to their attempts at development of nuclear bombs.They fark with their currency exchange rates to keep up trade imbalances, and no one wants to do anything about it.

Opium trade carries life imprisonment or even the death penalty.

You really think they didn't win the "Opium Wars"?
 
2013-09-29 03:23:26 PM  
Cant we just all get along.
 
2013-09-29 03:23:39 PM  
Religious fanatics with guns, aka republicans.
 
2013-09-29 03:28:28 PM  

ox45tallboy: I think he means that most Americans do understand the concept of evolution, and those who believe in young-earth creationism are in a (albeit very vocal) minority. Evolution is taught in our schools. We fund science research to discover more about the world around us.


Yes, the fact that creationism is taught in some districts doesn't mean it's national policy, and more importantly, doesn't mean that all critical thinking skills go out the window. If you're taught creationism it doesn't mean you aren't taught mathematics, literature, and natural sciences - which all require a critical thought process. To say creationism is the reason our students are getting dumber is laughable. For a good student in a good school, it's nothing more than a foil for better, more correct ideas, just like other failed scientific theories of evolution are taught alongside Darwinism.
 
2013-09-29 03:41:51 PM  
Boko Harem needs to be a whiter shade of pale.

www.progarchives.com
 
2013-09-29 03:43:31 PM  
 

USP .45: To say creationism is the reason our students are getting dumber is laughable.


The mere existence of creationism is an indicator that our students are getting dumber, AND THAT IS NOT LAUGHABLE.
 
2013-09-29 03:49:04 PM  

Pharque-it: USP .45: To say creationism is the reason our students are getting dumber is laughable.

The mere existence of creationism is an indicator that our students are getting dumber, AND THAT IS NOT LAUGHABLE.


The students have no say in what their curriculum is and despite creationism being around a lot longer than scientific explanations, it's been increasingly rejected by students being properly educated. Creationism in western schools also isn't unique to the Americas. Your comment makes no sense whatsoever.
 
2013-09-29 03:49:10 PM  

zimbomba63: TheShavingofOccam123: For all of those who thought if you kill the head, the body dies...well, welcome to the real world. Killing OBL and most of the Al Qaeda leadership has done nothing to stop the spread of terror. In fact, the terror organizations have become just that--organizations. They mimic the big business entities that have raped natural resources and plundered weath in the Middle East.

Additionally, the global corporate giants and their biatch militaries have shiat on so many people in so many countries, we're never going to put out the flames. Just enjoy watching the fires burn.

I just knew, somehow, it had to be our fault.  Thanks for pointing out the reason why 40 students had to be massacred, clearly originated in the corporate boardrooms of the West.  I'm sure you are quickly rising to the top of this year's list of candidates, to win that most coveted award,  The Legion of Derp and Hurr, with a nice red sash, that reads "Shiat for Brains".


Why, you're so smart I bet you think we sent 1.5 million volunteers who witnessed the murder of thousands of Americans into a 10 year war in order to free the Iraqi people. Right...

consumersforpeace.org

Or the war would pay for itself through oil revenues. Right...

BP and China National Petroleum Company run Iraqi oil fields

http://www.bp.com/en/global/corporate/about-bp/bp-worldwide/bp-in-ir aq .html

Enjoy your next resource war. Make sure you buy plenty of BP and Halliburton.  And enjoy the global blowback from people who don't like being shot to pieces.
 
2013-09-29 04:17:42 PM  

Pharque-it: USP .45: To say creationism is the reason our students are getting dumber is laughable.

The mere existence of creationism is an indicator that our students are getting dumber, AND THAT IS NOT LAUGHABLE.


Statistically, the numbers of people who believe in Creationism have been the same for decades. How are people getting dumber when they're not changing their minds based on that single metric you push for it?
 
2013-09-29 04:29:11 PM  

Mrbogey: Pharque-it: USP .45: To say creationism is the reason our students are getting dumber is laughable.

The mere existence of creationism is an indicator that our students are getting dumber, AND THAT IS NOT LAUGHABLE.

Statistically, the numbers of people who believe in Creationism have been the same for decades. How are people getting dumber when they're not changing their minds based on that single metric you push for it?


citation please... or just an ass-pull?
 
2013-09-29 04:35:09 PM  

mark12A: Ain't Islam grand?



Yeah, it doesn't count when OUR fundies do it.
 
2013-09-29 04:35:57 PM  

Pharque-it: Mrbogey: Pharque-it: USP .45: To say creationism is the reason our students are getting dumber is laughable.

The mere existence of creationism is an indicator that our students are getting dumber, AND THAT IS NOT LAUGHABLE.

Statistically, the numbers of people who believe in Creationism have been the same for decades. How are people getting dumber when they're not changing their minds based on that single metric you push for it?

citation please... or just an ass-pull?


Gallup
whyevolutionistrue.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-09-29 04:37:39 PM  

davin: Brick-House: If I had the power to snapy fingers and have all Muslims vanish from the earth. Yes I would and I would sleep well at night. And no I do not believe this would solve all the worlds problems, just 80 to 90 percent of them.

We could solve another 15% by euthanizing all those people that categorize based on religious stereotype.


Don't be too hard on him.  It's pretty easy to think you have a simple solution to most of the world's problems when you're a blithering idiot.  It's a pretty common mistake.
 
2013-09-29 04:38:20 PM  

ciberido: mark12A: Ain't Islam grand?


Yeah, it doesn't count when OUR fundies do it.


Fundamentalist Christians do not kill 40 college students in their sleep, behead, rape, torture, etc.    Why, who told you different?
 
2013-09-29 04:40:26 PM  
Verdelak:  Please, stop it.

Also, to the person above who said you don't see Catholics doing this, do a quick Google search on the Army of God and their mission to spread Catholicism throughout Uganda via murder....

1. Its not accepted by other Catholics.
2. Its not lead by priests, bishops or quietly approved by the hierarchy.

3. I agree that Catholics can be  very violent e.g. the cartels.
 
2013-09-29 04:48:16 PM  

Mrbogey: Pharque-it: Mrbogey: Pharque-it: USP .45: To say creationism is the reason our students are getting dumber is laughable.

The mere existence of creationism is an indicator that our students are getting dumber, AND THAT IS NOT LAUGHABLE.

Statistically, the numbers of people who believe in Creationism have been the same for decades. How are people getting dumber when they're not changing their minds based on that single metric you push for it?

citation please... or just an ass-pull?

Gallup
[whyevolutionistrue.files.wordpress.com image 578x278]


OK, so (US) people are still equally dumb, in spite of scientific progress. That is not laughable..
 
2013-09-29 05:04:07 PM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: StarshipAngel: Weren't Boko Harem the guys who did that song "Whiter Shade of Pale" ?

No, it's that peaceful religion Kurt Vonnegut invented in Cat's Cradle.


Oh, you better believe it's the hook for you, heathen.
 
2013-09-29 05:17:33 PM  

USP .45: ox45tallboy: I think he means that most Americans do understand the concept of evolution, and those who believe in young-earth creationism are in a (albeit very vocal) minority. Evolution is taught in our schools. We fund science research to discover more about the world around us.

Yes, the fact that creationism is taught in some districts doesn't mean it's national policy, and more importantly, doesn't mean that all critical thinking skills go out the window. If you're taught creationism it doesn't mean you aren't taught mathematics, literature, and natural sciences - which all require a critical thought process. To say creationism is the reason our students are getting dumber is laughable. For a good student in a good school, it's nothing more than a foil for better, more correct ideas, just like other failed scientific theories of evolution are taught alongside Darwinism.


Since we're talking about schools that teach Creationism, your point is irrelevant to the real world.
 
2013-09-29 05:22:50 PM  

IronTom: ciberido: mark12A: Ain't Islam grand?


Yeah, it doesn't count when OUR fundies do it.

Fundamentalist Christians do not kill 40 college students in their sleep, behead, rape, torture, etc.    Why, who told you different?


IronTom: ciberido: mark12A: Ain't Islam grand?


Yeah, it doesn't count when OUR fundies do it.

Fundamentalist Christians do not kill 40 college students in their sleep, behead, rape, torture, etc.    Why, who told you different?


Someone already brought up these charming fellows, perhaps you missed it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord%27s_Resistance_Army
 
2013-09-29 05:51:36 PM  

Mister Peejay: Mrbogey: Sock Ruh Tease: The group called "Learning is Forbidden" attacked a college? Wow, how original.

Actually, it's not that simple. Boko apparently means "non-Islamic knowledge". Pretty much anything derived or generated by non-traditional Islamic groups is sinful. Apparently the idea that the world is round is a western plot to weaken Islam. Also the water cycle is un-Islamic. Rain comes from Allah not condensation!

indarwinsshadow: Anyone read the wiki on the group and it's leader.

"In a 2009 BBC interview, Mohammed Yusuf, then leader of the group, stated his belief that the concept of a spherical Earth is contrary to Islamic teaching and should be rejected, along with Darwinian evolution and the concept of rain originating from water evaporated by the sun."

Holy crap, I thought Mrbogey was exaggerating.

Good thing we don't have people like that on this half of the planet.

/oh... crap.


Yeah,I thought that too. Then I thought "Wasn't there a post yesterday or so about a religious group in Kansas suing to have their views taught as science in the local public schools?".
 
2013-09-29 05:56:41 PM  
If dumbasses want to keep living in the ass age, they should just go live in the desert or cave and not bother people trying to study to have a chance of a better life.
 
2013-09-29 06:34:52 PM  
The attack happened in a dorm College of Agriculture in Gujba

Attacking the people who possess the knowledge required to keep your farms producing, huh? Might want to talk to Zimbabwe first.
 
2013-09-29 07:50:14 PM  

PunGent: Someone already brought up these charming fellows, perhaps you missed it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord%27s_Resistance_Army



"B-b-b-b-but they're not real Christians!!!! I don't believe that way! No one I know believes that way! They're some crazy off-shoot!"

Most all Muslims worldwide: "Exactly."
 
2013-09-29 08:57:59 PM  
ox45tallboy: [opinion]

walkingtall: Every single statement made in this wall of text is laughably wrong. It is the absolute conviction and earnestness you seem to show that makes it scary. Nothing you wrote is right and if anyone agrees with you they are just as wrong as you are. Please dont anyone believe any of this.


Maybe ox45tallboy is totally wrong, but even if so, you've done nothing to convince me (nor anyone else in this thread, probably) of it.  I'm sorry, but "Please dont anyone believe any of this" doesn't cut it.  If you don't want us to believe ox45tallboy, then give us arguments showing WHY he's wrong.
 
2013-09-29 09:00:59 PM  

yookaloco: Phil Moskowitz: yookaloco: families of casualties.

why casualties? shouldn't they be seriouslies or something?

Interesting made up word. I'm not 100% on your point, but if I had to guess, it's that you are unfamiliar with the literal definition of casualty. This is not uncommon.

"In civilian usage the word "casualty" is properly used for a person who is killed, wounded or injured by some event, and is usually used to describe multiple deaths and injuries due to violent incidents or disasters. Casualties is sometimes loosely used or (mis)understood to mean fatalities, but non-fatal injuries are also casualties. "


Moreover, its etymology is from "chance," and its current meaning is pretty old.  There really isn't any reason why one would expect "casualty" to refer only to deaths.
 
2013-09-29 09:09:03 PM  
Tommy Moo: Pew Research put out a poll showing that about half of all Muslims worldwide think terrorism is morally acceptable to spread Islam.

You mean the 2013 Pew poll that found 72% of Muslims worldwide held that violence against civilians is never justified? That one?
 
2013-09-29 09:34:33 PM  

uber humper: Apik0r0s: [ecx.images-amazon.com image 224x346]
This book's predictions about Islam were dead nuts on.

Looks interesting. Too bad it's not out on kindle.


Yeah, I was going to check it out from the library but it doesn't carry it, and I'm not willing to pay money to read it.  Pity.
 
2013-09-29 10:31:48 PM  

seelorq: Tommy Moo: Pew Research put out a poll showing that about half of all Muslims worldwide think terrorism is morally acceptable to spread Islam.

You mean the 2013 Pew poll that found 72% of Muslims worldwide held that violence against civilians is never justified? That one?


This. If the anti-Muslim brigade ever bothered to..oh, I don't know..read the Quaran..they'd see that it EXPRESSLY FORBIDS the killing of women, children, the elderly, and other assorted non-combatants.
 
2013-09-29 10:48:30 PM  

grumpfuff: seelorq: Tommy Moo: Pew Research put out a poll showing that about half of all Muslims worldwide think terrorism is morally acceptable to spread Islam.

You mean the 2013 Pew poll that found 72% of Muslims worldwide held that violence against civilians is never justified? That one?

This. If the anti-Muslim brigade ever bothered to..oh, I don't know..read the Quaran..they'd see that it EXPRESSLY FORBIDS the killing of women, children, the elderly, and other assorted non-combatants.


On the other hand, it is a sad truth that many Mulsims, like many Christians, never seem to actually read what their holy book says.
 
2013-09-29 11:12:52 PM  

ciberido: grumpfuff: seelorq: Tommy Moo: Pew Research put out a poll showing that about half of all Muslims worldwide think terrorism is morally acceptable to spread Islam.

You mean the 2013 Pew poll that found 72% of Muslims worldwide held that violence against civilians is never justified? That one?

This. If the anti-Muslim brigade ever bothered to..oh, I don't know..read the Quaran..they'd see that it EXPRESSLY FORBIDS the killing of women, children, the elderly, and other assorted non-combatants.

On the other hand, it is a sad truth that many Mulsims, like many Christians, never seem to actually read what their holy book says.


Do you mean random practitioners or the crazy people who hide behind religion as a means to legitimize their political aspirations?
 
2013-09-29 11:15:56 PM  

ciberido: grumpfuff: seelorq: Tommy Moo: Pew Research put out a poll showing that about half of all Muslims worldwide think terrorism is morally acceptable to spread Islam.

You mean the 2013 Pew poll that found 72% of Muslims worldwide held that violence against civilians is never justified? That one?

This. If the anti-Muslim brigade ever bothered to..oh, I don't know..read the Quaran..they'd see that it EXPRESSLY FORBIDS the killing of women, children, the elderly, and other assorted non-combatants.

On the other hand, it is a sad truth that many Mulsims, like many Christians, never seem to actually read what their holy book says.


Good point.
 
2013-09-29 11:36:30 PM  

seelorq: Tommy Moo: Pew Research put out a poll showing that about half of all Muslims worldwide think terrorism is morally acceptable to spread Islam.

You mean the 2013 Pew poll that found 72% of Muslims worldwide held that violence against civilians is never justified? That one?


No, I mean the 2009 Pew poll that found that 48% of Muslims worldwide held that violence against civilians is sometimes or always justified in support of Islam. Maybe attitudes have changed in four years, but even so, it is completely unacceptable that 28% of Muslims still provide moral support to terrorists. Twenty. Eight. Percent. Stop pretending that it's a tiny fraction of fringe extremists. Muslim terrorists and their supporters are not our equivalent of the Westboro Baptist Church; they are the equivalent of our mainstream Evangelical Christian movement, with tens of millions of followers.
 
2013-09-29 11:53:09 PM  

mark12A: Ain't Islam grand?


/b-but but Abortion Clinics!!


Religion is farked up.
 
2013-09-29 11:54:37 PM  

Tommy Moo: seelorq: Tommy Moo: Pew Research put out a poll showing that about half of all Muslims worldwide think terrorism is morally acceptable to spread Islam.

You mean the 2013 Pew poll that found 72% of Muslims worldwide held that violence against civilians is never justified? That one?

No, I mean the 2009 Pew poll that found that 48% of Muslims worldwide held that violence against civilians is sometimes or always justified in support of Islam. Maybe attitudes have changed in four years, but even so, it is completely unacceptable that 28% of Muslims still provide moral support to terrorists. Twenty. Eight. Percent. Stop pretending that it's a tiny fraction of fringe extremists. Muslim terrorists and their supporters are not our equivalent of the Westboro Baptist Church; they are the equivalent of our mainstream Evangelical Christian movement, with tens of millions of followers.


It's almost like believing in bronze age gods is a sign of a greater gullibility.
 
2013-09-30 12:01:51 AM  

ciberido: grumpfuff: seelorq: Tommy Moo: Pew Research put out a poll showing that about half of all Muslims worldwide think terrorism is morally acceptable to spread Islam.

You mean the 2013 Pew poll that found 72% of Muslims worldwide held that violence against civilians is never justified? That one?

This. If the anti-Muslim brigade ever bothered to..oh, I don't know..read the Quaran..they'd see that it EXPRESSLY FORBIDS the killing of women, children, the elderly, and other assorted non-combatants.

On the other hand, it is a sad truth that many Mulsims, like many Christians, never seem to actually read what their holy book says.


There is also the basic maths which points out that if 72% say it is never justified then 28% can come up with a justification.

Whilst yes 28% is a minority of the whole, when the whole is approximately 1.5 billion it means that there are over 400,000,000 people out there that who can justify killing you because their invisible sky wizard said so.

And that is only one of the invisible sky wizard cults.
 
2013-09-30 12:12:42 AM  

Tommy Moo: seelorq: Tommy Moo: Pew Research put out a poll showing that about half of all Muslims worldwide think terrorism is morally acceptable to spread Islam.

You mean the 2013 Pew poll that found 72% of Muslims worldwide held that violence against civilians is never justified? That one?

No, I mean the 2009 Pew poll that found that 48% of Muslims worldwide held that violence against civilians is sometimes or always justified in support of Islam. Maybe attitudes have changed in four years, but even so, it is completely unacceptable that 28% of Muslims still provide moral support to terrorists. Twenty. Eight. Percent. Stop pretending that it's a tiny fraction of fringe extremists. Muslim terrorists and their supporters are not our equivalent of the Westboro Baptist Church; they are the equivalent of our mainstream Evangelical Christian movement, with tens of millions of followers.


Please help me...I can't seem to find your study. A link would be helpful. And that remainder 28% you cite doesn't mean they "support" "terrorism." How many 'muricans don't complain about collateral damage over there? Would you say they are therefore "supporting" the deaths of civilian noncombatants?
 
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