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2013-09-29 02:04:02 AM
 
2013-09-29 02:36:06 AM
14-100: People are still taking what the  Founding Fathers of Pure Supreme Goodness and Correctitudebrought to you by Pepsi said and did as inerrant law, not to ever be reinterpreted, nearly two and a half centuries later.
 
2013-09-29 02:44:37 AM

runujhkj: 14-100: People are still taking what the  Founding Fathers of Pure Supreme Goodness and Correctitudebrought to you by Pepsi said and did as inerrant law, not to ever be reinterpreted, nearly two and a half centuries later.


The Constitution isn't being reinterpreted, it's being ignored. How many ways are there to interpret the phrase, "Congress shall pass no law" or, "shall not be infringed?"
 
2013-09-29 03:18:19 AM
Is women voting and blacks having equal rights on the list?
 
2013-09-29 03:20:49 AM

DrPainMD: The Constitution isn't being reinterpreted


Of course not. Blacks are still slaves, women can't vote. Only landowners count.

No reinterpretation allowed. And militias mean EVERYONE.

Good call!
 
2013-09-29 03:33:36 AM

DrPainMD: runujhkj: 14-100: People are still taking what the  Founding Fathers of Pure Supreme Goodness and Correctitudebrought to you by Pepsi said and did as inerrant law, not to ever be reinterpreted, nearly two and a half centuries later.

The Constitution isn't being reinterpreted, it's being ignored. How many ways are there to interpret the phrase, "Congress shall pass no law" or, "shall not be infringed?"


A significantly greater amount than there are ways to interpret the phrases "well-regulated," "establishment," or "A," apparently.
 
2013-09-29 05:03:22 AM

mediablitz: DrPainMD: The Constitution isn't being reinterpreted

Of course not. Blacks are still slaves, women can't vote. Only landowners count.


Those things didn't change due to reinterpreting the Constitution.
 
2013-09-29 06:14:27 AM

DrPainMD: runujhkj: 14-100: People are still taking what the  Founding Fathers of Pure Supreme Goodness and Correctitudebrought to you by Pepsi said and did as inerrant law, not to ever be reinterpreted, nearly two and a half centuries later.

The Constitution isn't being reinterpreted, it's being ignored. How many ways are there to interpret the phrase, "Congress shall pass no law" or, "shall not be infringed?"


Are you still able to buy a gun to feed your family? Then STFU about "infringed."
 
2013-09-29 06:17:42 AM
And haven't we seen that Percival Nerdley face on some other derp that showed up here recently?
 
2013-09-29 06:20:30 AM
14. There's a ni@@er president
 
2013-09-29 06:48:04 AM
john hawkins and another one of his thousands of lists?
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-09-29 07:44:53 AM

mediablitz: DrPainMD: The Constitution isn't being reinterpreted

Of course not. Blacks are still slaves, women can't vote. Only landowners count.

No reinterpretation allowed. And militias mean EVERYONE.


If militias had been meant to mean "everyone" they would have said "everyone" instead of saying "militia".
 
2013-09-29 07:49:13 AM

DrPainMD: runujhkj: 14-100: People are still taking what the  Founding Fathers of Pure Supreme Goodness and Correctitudebrought to you by Pepsi said and did as inerrant law, not to ever be reinterpreted, nearly two and a half centuries later.

The Constitution isn't being reinterpreted, it's being ignored. How many ways are there to interpret the phrase, "Congress shall pass no law" or, "shall not be infringed?"


Or "The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. "?
 
2013-09-29 07:54:56 AM

DrPainMD: runujhkj: 14-100: People are still taking what the  Founding Fathers of Pure Supreme Goodness and Correctitudebrought to you by Pepsi said and did as inerrant law, not to ever be reinterpreted, nearly two and a half centuries later.

The Constitution isn't being reinterpreted, it's being ignored. How many ways are there to interpret the phrase, "Congress shall pass no law" or, "shall not be infringed?"


Guns? Really?? Really??

F÷#&ing guns is all you twits care about?
 
2013-09-29 08:04:41 AM
"Look at all these people"
www.history.com
"..how did they get so fat?"
 
2013-09-29 08:15:13 AM

DrPainMD: mediablitz: DrPainMD: The Constitution isn't being reinterpreted

Of course not. Blacks are still slaves, women can't vote. Only landowners count.

Those things didn't change due to reinterpreting the Constitution.


That's exactly how they changed.
 
2013-09-29 08:18:24 AM

MurphyMurphy: "Look at all these people"
[www.history.com image 605x412]
"..how did they get so fat?"


www.npg.si.edu

"Based on my experience, I'd say it's probably because of all the f*cking."
 
2013-09-29 08:22:01 AM
 "To become a thing is to know a thing. To assume its form is to begin to understand its existence."

--Benjamin Franklin
 
2013-09-29 08:22:59 AM

Peter von Nostrand: DrPainMD: runujhkj: 14-100: People are still taking what the  Founding Fathers of Pure Supreme Goodness and Correctitudebrought to you by Pepsi said and did as inerrant law, not to ever be reinterpreted, nearly two and a half centuries later.

The Constitution isn't being reinterpreted, it's being ignored. How many ways are there to interpret the phrase, "Congress shall pass no law" or, "shall not be infringed?"

Guns? Really?? Really??

F÷#&ing guns is all you twits care about?


"Congress shall pass no law" is part of the First Amendment. Those are merely the first two examples of phrases with plain meaning that aren't adhered to.

Anyway, they nailed the income tax. Of all the things that the Founding Fathers would be crazy over, that's the one.
 
2013-09-29 08:52:37 AM

DrPainMD: "Congress shall pass no law" or, "shall not be infringed?"


Same way as "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, ..." now is an individual Right.
 
2013-09-29 09:03:38 AM

Adolf Oliver Nipples: Peter von Nostrand: DrPainMD: runujhkj: 14-100: People are still taking what the  Founding Fathers of Pure Supreme Goodness and Correctitudebrought to you by Pepsi said and did as inerrant law, not to ever be reinterpreted, nearly two and a half centuries later.

The Constitution isn't being reinterpreted, it's being ignored. How many ways are there to interpret the phrase, "Congress shall pass no law" or, "shall not be infringed?"

Guns? Really?? Really??

F÷#&ing guns is all you twits care about?

"Congress shall pass no law" is part of the First Amendment. Those are merely the first two examples of phrases with plain meaning that aren't adhered to.

Anyway, they nailed the income tax. Of all the things that the Founding Fathers would be crazy over, that's the one.


No. Most of the founding fathers would have gone crazy about non-whites being anything other than property.

It is still freaking out many Republicans to this day.
 
2013-09-29 09:07:44 AM
I knew how this was going to read as soon as I read the early part about ending slavery and increasing everyone's economic prosperity, two things conservatives fought against quite strongly. I admit some surprise that it is written like a high school essay.

1) Not just 15% of Americans being on food stamps, but the existence of a food stamp program "The real tragedy is trying to help those people goddamitsomuch"

2) Forcing Americans to buy health insurance via Obamacare as a condition of American citizenship. He's got me there: I missed that because I haven't read the whole bill

3) Members of Congress voting on bills that they haven't read. It's cute how he thinks lobbyists don't explain the bill to them

4) The Supreme Court's Roe v. Wade decision, not so much because the Founding Fathers would oppose abortion, although they would, but because the Court is unconstitutionally taking power away from each state to make its own decision. "It's not a good example but I farking hate abortion so I'm putting it in here anyway."

5) The federal government taxing states and then using that money to blackmail the states into doing what the Feds want to get their own money back. Somebody post that give-get, red state welfare leeches jpg

6) The average government workers making more than the average citizens paying their taxes. Conservatives led the outsourcing drive years ago, driving up the average because the unskilled jobs aren't done by government employees anymore. And of course, federal workers don't pay taxes - they're non-profits.

7) In 2010, the average net worth of a senator was 13 million dollars while the net worth of the average American family was $77,300. Attacking the rich? Not very conservative of you.

8) A permanent income tax. The only interesting supposition in here - what would the founding fathers say?

9) Expelling children from government schools for playing with toy guns on their own property. Sorry dude, this is that power to the states thing you demanded. Wrong tree.

10) Having TSA agents putting their hands on people's crotches and sticking their fingers inside people's pants at the airports. Well, technically, airports are often borders so this is part of the much-vaunted "Secure our Borders Now"  program.

11) Having the NSA collect the phone records and emails of hundreds of millions of law abiding Americans. I think the founding fathers would have said: "What is a phone? What the fark is an email?"

12) Having Christian prayers, the Ten Commandments, and mentions of God banned in schoolhouses and on government property. I'll back him here when he backs the 1st Amendment - and I think I pretty much know how he'd feel about referencing the Koran each morning right after the Pledge of Allegiance.

13) The fact that snooty Brit Piers Morgan is lecturing Americans on TV. Patrick Henry would tell him to shove his fish and chips where the sun doesn't shine. I'm gonna guess he's perfectly okay with that Brit-owned news network that brainwashes Americans everyday.
 
2013-09-29 09:09:03 AM
This bullsh*t again?

/I thought we disposed of this pile of sh*t yesterday morning
 
2013-09-29 09:14:36 AM
Worth it just for #13. Hahah, he's your problem now, America.

/if you want to kill him, no one will object.
 
2013-09-29 09:22:19 AM

2wolves: DrPainMD: "Congress shall pass no law" or, "shall not be infringed?"

Same way as "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, ..." now is an individual Right.


Since this is turning into gun-control thread number 8675309, I'd like to point out thata prefatory phrase does not constitute a right or abridge the right in any way. They could have said "Tricorner hats, being a particularly ugly fashion statement..." and it wouldn't change anything either.

It always was an individual right. And now it always will be.
 
2013-09-29 09:34:30 AM
www.biography.com

Florida is a state? Godsdamnitsomuch
 
2013-09-29 09:41:41 AM
As if they were a united bunch. The FFs would hate all of us, some FFs would hate the Right Wingers more than anyone.
 
2013-09-29 09:55:38 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: This bullsh*t again?

/I thought we disposed of this pile of sh*t yesterday morning


Apparently, they need more blowjobs.

Look, we all love the Founding Fathers. We learned a lot from them. But, we've moved on and progressed past what they gave us.

Area man screams about what he imagines the Constitution to be.

Nice blog, kid. You want poor people to starve. Jesus loves you.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-09-29 09:55:59 AM

Adolf Oliver Nipples: Peter von Nostrand: DrPainMD: runujhkj: 14-100: People are still taking what the  Founding Fathers of Pure Supreme Goodness and Correctitudebrought to you by Pepsi said and did as inerrant law, not to ever be reinterpreted, nearly two and a half centuries later.

The Constitution isn't being reinterpreted, it's being ignored. How many ways are there to interpret the phrase, "Congress shall pass no law" or, "shall not be infringed?"

Guns? Really?? Really??

F÷#&ing guns is all you twits care about?

"Congress shall pass no law" is part of the First Amendment. Those are merely the first two examples of phrases with plain meaning that aren't adhered to.

Anyway, they nailed the income tax. Of all the things that the Founding Fathers would be crazy over, that's the one.


No, that was changed by amendment.  The framers put the amendment process into the constitution specifically for that sort of thing.
 
2013-09-29 09:57:29 AM

vpb: No, that was changed by amendment. The framers put the amendment process into the constitution specifically for that sort of thing.


Oh, I know. I just think they'd be aghast at the fact that one exists, no matter how it came to be.
 
2013-09-29 09:58:48 AM
Hawkins word processor is powered directly from the power of the laughter it produces. Perpetual motion at last! UNLIMITED POWAH!!
 
2013-09-29 10:00:04 AM
www.leftjustified.com

There is a West Virginia?
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-09-29 10:10:50 AM

Adolf Oliver Nipples: vpb: No, that was changed by amendment. The framers put the amendment process into the constitution specifically for that sort of thing.

Oh, I know. I just think they'd be aghast at the fact that one exists, no matter how it came to be.


I don't.  They might be surprised but they obviously knew that times change and that laws should change with it.  That's why they created the Supreme Court and specifically gave it the duty to interpret the Constitution, and the amendment process.
 
2013-09-29 10:14:29 AM
Cops can steal all your money.
 
2013-09-29 10:18:19 AM

vpb: Adolf Oliver Nipples: vpb: No, that was changed by amendment. The framers put the amendment process into the constitution specifically for that sort of thing.

Oh, I know. I just think they'd be aghast at the fact that one exists, no matter how it came to be.

I don't.  They might be surprised but they obviously knew that times change and that laws should change with it.  That's why they created the Supreme Court and specifically gave it the duty to interpret the Constitution, and the amendment process.


John Marshall's opinion in  Madison v. Marburry wasn't exactly expected or drawn from concrete clauses in the Constitution;  however, judicial review is something we generally took from British common law (the basis of our judicial system, except for those freaks in Louisiana) and our entire system would be untenable without it.
 
2013-09-29 10:26:46 AM

edmo: 10) Having TSA agents putting their hands on people's crotches and sticking their fingers inside people's pants at the airports. Well, technically, airports are often borders so this is part of the much-vaunted "Secure our Borders Now" program.


Guarding borders isn't TSA's job, it's CBP's. Also, CBP are actual LEOs with arrest authority and can carry firearms. TSA just puts on a uniform and goes "Respect my authoritah!".

/TSA was created as a panic response to 9/11
//Of course, they're both under DHS which in and of itself is a clusterfark
 
2013-09-29 10:48:12 AM

dustman81: //Of course, they're both under DHS which in and of itself is a clusterfark


That name still bothers me, it sounds like Newspeak.
 
2013-09-29 10:50:04 AM

Solon Isonomia: dustman81: //Of course, they're both under DHS which in and of itself is a clusterfark

That name still bothers me, it sounds like Newspeak.


"Fatherland" was taken.
 
2013-09-29 11:03:00 AM
I think they might have had a problem with the assembly line. And WW2. And Mexicans.
 
2013-09-29 11:04:52 AM
My main thing is that we can re-craft the Constitution. But it needs to make us even more free than we are now. I'll bet there are one million laws in America. That's way too many. And they don't do shiat to stop bad people from doing bad things to us.
 
2013-09-29 11:06:19 AM
12) Having Christian prayers, the Ten Commandments, and mentions of God banned in schoolhouses and on government property.

Fun fact:  you can pray anytime and anywhere you want, and you can print out the ten commandments and take them with you anywhere you go, even onto school grounds and into government buildings.

No, you can't have a martyrdom.

Not yours.
 
2013-09-29 11:19:30 AM

Lionel Mandrake: 12) Having Christian prayers, the Ten Commandments, and mentions of God banned in schoolhouses and on government property.

Fun fact:  you can pray anytime and anywhere you want, and you can print out the ten commandments and take them with you anywhere you go, even onto school grounds and into government buildings.

No, you can't have a martyrdom.

Not yours.


Much of the Religious Right love to talk about the Free Exercise Clause and the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment... right up until it's used to support an "outsider" religion. And they get quite the case of amnesia when thinking about Article VI too.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-09-29 11:27:12 AM
The funny thing about the right trying to appropriate the founding fathers is that they did have to deal with a Tea Party anti tax "patriot militia" fighting against "tyranny" type groups during the Whiskey Rebellion.

Washington's  response was to raise the real militia (the one referenced in the second amendment) to grab the guns of the rebels.  Of course the tea baggers didn't really have to balls to fight the real militia and they all ran away before Washington got there, just like today's tough-guy redneck militias would do.

There were even some people wanting to secede from the union.
 
2013-09-29 11:30:27 AM

jaylectricity: My main thing is that we can re-craft the Constitution. But it needs to make us even more free than we are now. I'll bet there are one million laws in America. That's way too many. And they don't do shiat to stop bad people from doing bad things to us.


That ought to get some bites.
 
2013-09-29 11:34:32 AM
People that read that list and agree with it and/or believe it to be anything other than half truths scare me.

And they can vote, too
 
2013-09-29 11:36:20 AM
12) Having Christian prayers, the Ten Commandments, and mentions of God banned in schoolhouses and on government property.

seriously dude?  the US isn't a christian nation you moron.  ye gods, people like this offend me right down to the genetic level.
 
2013-09-29 11:37:29 AM
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#15.  The fact that this guy is in prison instead of in the White House.
 
2013-09-29 11:39:21 AM

Speaker2Animals: Are you still able to buy a gun to feed your family? Then STFU about "infringed."


Clearly you are misinformed or uninformed. Obama has tried to take our guns each and every year he's been in office. Only through the hard work and red-blooded patriotism of Wayne LaPierre have we managed to hold on to the very few guns and gun rights we have left. These are dark(ie) days for America.
 
2013-09-29 11:39:48 AM

DrPainMD: runujhkj: 14-100: People are still taking what the  Founding Fathers of Pure Supreme Goodness and Correctitudebrought to you by Pepsi said and did as inerrant law, not to ever be reinterpreted, nearly two and a half centuries later.

The Constitution isn't being reinterpreted, it's being ignored. How many ways are there to interpret the phrase, "Congress shall pass no law" or, "shall not be infringed?"


Guns for babies!  Guns for psychiatric patients!  Guns for every newly paroled felon!
 
2013-09-29 11:43:52 AM

thamike: MurphyMurphy: "Look at all these people"
[www.history.com image 605x412]
"..how did they get so fat?"

[www.npg.si.edu image 405x490]

"Based on my experience, I'd say it's probably because of all the f*cking."


Benjamin Franklin:  The only president of the United States, who was never President of the United States...
 
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