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2013-09-28 08:55:00 AM  
Karl Rove enlivened Fox News Channel's election coverage last year by questioning the network's declaration that Barack Obama had been re-elected.
FOX news, the official news network of the Republican Party.
Or, the Republican Party, the official political party of FOX news.  I can never remember which way it goes.
 
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2013-09-28 11:52:02 AM  
It's good that he realized that he isn't going to be anywhere near the White House.
 
2013-09-28 12:11:12 PM  
Karl Rove's reaction to Ohio being called for Obama was so over the top it really did feel like he was sure the fix was in, but it didn't work for some reason. Sort of like a gangster watching the boxer he has arranged to take a dive knock the other guy the fark out.
 
2013-09-28 12:18:46 PM  
11/6/12 about 10:45 CST... Thanks for the memories Karl
 
2013-09-28 12:34:55 PM  
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Obligatory.
 
2013-09-28 01:21:38 PM  
There is no failure so great that right wing pundits can't be forgiven for it. (Except maybe gay sex scandal...maybe).
 
2013-09-28 01:56:54 PM  
Why would Fox hire a guy converting to Islam?

/just askin' the question
 
2013-09-28 02:27:47 PM  
I really don't mind that. He provided us with the entertainment of the century on election night. I really won't mind seeing something like that again.
 
2013-09-28 02:30:38 PM  
Karl Rove has sex with boys. Study it out.
 
2013-09-28 02:31:04 PM  
As comedy relief?
 
2013-09-28 02:31:18 PM  
In other news, you can be completely and totally wrong in terms of your political prognostication, misleading millions of viewers into believing that their political nominee is going to win the election and still be able to get a job back at the network you completely discredited.  Looking forward to seeing his 2016 election night meltdown.
 
2013-09-28 02:31:20 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: 11/6/12 about 10:45 CST... Thanks for the memories Karl


Best 20 minutes on Fox News, evar!

Hopefully he'll be available for a repeat in 2016. Perhaps they can invite Dick Morris to join in the fun.  =)
 
2013-09-28 02:31:55 PM  
Blow Hard 2:  Blow Harder.
 
2013-09-28 02:38:01 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: 11/6/12 about 10:45 CST... Thanks for the memories Karl


Here is the whole thing in case you'd like to relive it.

/Between this and Romney not bothering to write a concession speech, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that there was some chicanery afoot that didn't go off as planned.
 
2013-09-28 02:43:54 PM  

jake_lex: Karl Rove's reaction to Ohio being called for Obama was so over the top it really did feel like he was sure the fix was in, but it didn't work for some reason. Sort of like a gangster watching the boxer he has arranged to take a dive knock the other guy the fark out.


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2013-09-28 02:44:53 PM  

Snapper Carr: Peter von Nostrand: 11/6/12 about 10:45 CST... Thanks for the memories Karl

Here is the whole thing in case you'd like to relive it.

/Between this and Romney not bothering to write a concession speech, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that there was some chicanery afoot that didn't go off as planned.


It certainly does seem that way, but I think it more likely may be that Romney and the Republican establishment in general had so bought into the "skewed polls" nonsense that they seriously did believe Romney was winning.
 
2013-09-28 02:48:16 PM  

Baron Harkonnen: Karl Rove enlivened Fox News Channel's election coverage last year by questioning the network's declaration that Barack Obama had been re-elected.
FOX news, the official news network of the Republican Party.
Or, the Republican Party, the official political party of FOX news.  I can never remember which way it goes.


News Republicans do to make themselves feel better?
 
2013-09-28 02:49:46 PM  
www.weakthought.org
 
2013-09-28 02:57:11 PM  

jake_lex: Snapper Carr: Peter von Nostrand: 11/6/12 about 10:45 CST... Thanks for the memories Karl

Here is the whole thing in case you'd like to relive it.

/Between this and Romney not bothering to write a concession speech, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that there was some chicanery afoot that didn't go off as planned.

It certainly does seem that way, but I think it more likely may be that Romney and the Republican establishment in general had so bought into the "skewed polls" nonsense that they seriously did believe Romney was winning.


I'm still surprised he hasn't been killed.  Think of the hundreds of millions of dollars he spent last year for what, a 0.4% success rate?
 
2013-09-28 02:58:50 PM  
Karl's head would make a really good bowling ball.
 
2013-09-28 02:59:20 PM  
coolmeg.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-09-28 02:59:25 PM  

jake_lex: Karl Rove's reaction to Ohio being called for Obama was so over the top it really did feel like he was sure the fix was in, but it didn't work for some reason. Sort of like a gangster watching the boxer he has arranged to take a dive knock the other guy the fark out.


it was beautiful to behold. and to think as little as i watch Fox i was lucky enough to see it live in real time.
 
2013-09-28 03:01:52 PM  
Don't give up Karl! You lost a lot of ground trying to steal 2012, but maybe you can steal 2016!

Double down! The only reason you lost is that you weren't conservative enough! Praise Reagan!
 
2013-09-28 03:12:26 PM  
Hamm to rove it up 4 mor years...........
 
2013-09-28 03:27:45 PM  

Curious: jake_lex: Karl Rove's reaction to Ohio being called for Obama was so over the top it really did feel like he was sure the fix was in, but it didn't work for some reason. Sort of like a gangster watching the boxer he has arranged to take a dive knock the other guy the fark out.

it was beautiful to behold. and to think as little as i watch Fox i was lucky enough to see it live in real time.


I never watch TV news or political commentary on TV, but I was happy to make an exception that evening. The sweet tears that were shed on Fox made it so worthwhile.
 
2013-09-28 03:30:51 PM  

Snapper Carr: /Between this and Romney not bothering to write a concession speech, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that there was some chicanery afoot that didn't go off as planned.


I've always thought that it would be absolutely wonderful if the Obama team didn't cock-block Turd Blossom somehow with some even more devious subterfuge.
 
2013-09-28 03:41:53 PM  

jake_lex: It certainly does seem that way, but I think it more likely may be that Romney and the Republican establishment in general had so bought into the "skewed polls" nonsense that they seriously did believe Romney was winning.


It's just really weird that a guy that's spent his entire career handling campaigns might never have grasped that statistics and polling are spot-on, as long as the methods are good enough, no matter what you personally want the results to be.

That is, I have a modest background with stats from an intro course in B-school, and it really sunk in that, any time you have a large pool of respondents the poll results are going to be pretty accurate.  If you look at lots and lots of polls, as Rove no doubt does, you'd probably start seeing patterns, i.e. Poll Co A and Poll Co X are usually close, but Poll Co E is junk - which is a seat-of-the-pants version of what Nate Silver figured out via math.

So, either there was a fix, and Rove got mad because the fix flopped.

Or, Rove doesn't really get how polls work, and was ignoring the polls that he didn't want to hear, and has spent 40 years being a more sophisticated version of Dean Chambers?  Is that possible?

I dunno, I hate the guy, but it's really hard to believe that a major, long-term campaign strategist is wildly incompetent in a field that defines his industry.  Granted, he has a lot of company with other pundits who were wildly wrong, but those folks don't run multiple presidential campaigns.
 
2013-09-28 03:50:02 PM  

LincolnLogolas: I never watch TV news or political commentary on TV, but I was happy to make an exception that evening. The sweet tears that were shed on Fox made it so worthwhile.


I never try to give Fox money, but I would gladly pay if they released a special DVD edition of their 2012 election night coverage.
 
2013-09-28 04:22:21 PM  
Isn't it great that Fox is actually paying people to push the candidates they are raising money for?  I mean it really takes a lot of chutzpah to actually have the head of the biggest conservative pac on the payroll and still say you're fair and balanced. what's next? The Rinsed Pubis show?
 
2013-09-28 04:55:03 PM  
4 more years?

Haven't heard anyone from FOX say that since 2004.
 
2013-09-28 05:04:18 PM  

Snapper Carr: Peter von Nostrand: 11/6/12 about 10:45 CST... Thanks for the memories Karl

Here is the whole thing in case you'd like to relive it.

/Between this and Romney not bothering to write a concession speech, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that there was some chicanery afoot that didn't go off as planned


Not long after the election, Anonymous claimed to have hacked into Rove's Diebold account and changed his password, so he couldn't change the vote tallies. Personally, I think the claim is crap, but it's a fun narrative to entertain - Ohio going to Obama while Rove was frantically trying to log in - and stall the call - ON THE AIR, and being unable to.
 
2013-09-28 05:18:22 PM  
Well he can't win elections, so here's the next best thing.
 
2013-09-28 05:53:28 PM  

El Pachuco: jake_lex: It certainly does seem that way, but I think it more likely may be that Romney and the Republican establishment in general had so bought into the "skewed polls" nonsense that they seriously did believe Romney was winning.

It's just really weird that a guy that's spent his entire career handling campaigns might never have grasped that statistics and polling are spot-on, as long as the methods are good enough, no matter what you personally want the results to be.

That is, I have a modest background with stats from an intro course in B-school, and it really sunk in that, any time you have a large pool of respondents the poll results are going to be pretty accurate.  If you look at lots and lots of polls, as Rove no doubt does, you'd probably start seeing patterns, i.e. Poll Co A and Poll Co X are usually close, but Poll Co E is junk - which is a seat-of-the-pants version of what Nate Silver figured out via math.

So, either there was a fix, and Rove got mad because the fix flopped.

Or, Rove doesn't really get how polls work, and was ignoring the polls that he didn't want to hear, and has spent 40 years being a more sophisticated version of Dean Chambers?  Is that possible?

I dunno, I hate the guy, but it's really hard to believe that a major, long-term campaign strategist is wildly incompetent in a field that defines his industry.  Granted, he has a lot of company with other pundits who were wildly wrong, but those folks don't run multiple presidential campaigns.


Or he was lying about his belief, as part of the campaign to delegitimize Obama in the eyes of his viewers.
 
2013-09-28 07:46:55 PM  
BTW, Megan's a whore.
 
2013-09-28 08:07:55 PM  

peasandcarrots: Snapper Carr: Peter von Nostrand: 11/6/12 about 10:45 CST... Thanks for the memories Karl

Here is the whole thing in case you'd like to relive it.

/Between this and Romney not bothering to write a concession speech, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that there was some chicanery afoot that didn't go off as planned

Not long after the election, Anonymous claimed to have hacked into Rove's Diebold account and changed his password, so he couldn't change the vote tallies. Personally, I think the claim is crap, but it's a fun narrative to entertain - Ohio going to Obama while Rove was frantically trying to log in - and stall the call - ON THE AIR, and being unable to.


rove himself wouldn't be the one to do it. but that's not saying that it wasn't done in 2004. there's a lot of shady shiat that that went on in Ohio that night. and then the one guy getting killed just before testifying about it makes it even more sketchy.
 
2013-09-28 08:16:26 PM  

jake_lex: Karl Rove's reaction to Ohio being called for Obama was so over the top it really did feel like he was sure the fix was in, but it didn't work for some reason. Sort of like a gangster watching the boxer he has arranged to take a dive knock the other guy the fark out.


Yeah, as an Ohio resident, I will admit to experiencing a moment of stomach-lurching, butt-tingling terror. My mind immediately flashed to the software upgrade to all the voting machines a few days before. I'm glad I was wrong, but a small, paranoid part of me wonders if they tried something and were caught. Then the rational part of me says that no one would miss out on the chance to publicly destroy the Republican Party if they had proof of such a plot.
 
2013-09-28 09:23:49 PM  

Ambivalence: There is no failure so great that right wing pundits can't be forgiven for it. (Except maybe gay sex scandal...maybe).


Uh... what failure are we talking about?

He missed the call on the 2008 election, sure, but he was in pretty good company there.
 
2013-09-30 12:29:07 AM  

Hobodeluxe: peasandcarrots: Snapper Carr: Peter von Nostrand: 11/6/12 about 10:45 CST... Thanks for the memories Karl

Here is the whole thing in case you'd like to relive it.

/Between this and Romney not bothering to write a concession speech, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that there was some chicanery afoot that didn't go off as planned

Not long after the election, Anonymous claimed to have hacked into Rove's Diebold account and changed his password, so he couldn't change the vote tallies. Personally, I think the claim is crap, but it's a fun narrative to entertain - Ohio going to Obama while Rove was frantically trying to log in ― and stall the call ― ON THE AIR, and being unable to.

rove himself wouldn't be the one to do it. but that's not saying that it wasn't done in 2004. there's a lot of shady shiat that that went on in Ohio that night. and then the one guy getting killed just before testifying about it makes it even more sketchy.


I don't think that the Anonymous claim was crap. It had verifiable information, such as the exact number of failed password attempts ("exactly 105," not "over a hundred" or some other ballpark number ― this could easily be checked by analyzing server and IP router logs [though I doubt logs that old still exist in the actual server and router logs, but hopefully someone backed them up]). It also used actual hacker lingo couched in what appeared to be nothing more than flowery prose to the uninitiated, which is typical of Anonymous's style (e.g. the reference to "tunnel rats" ― "tunneling" of course refers to IP tunneling, while "RAT" refers to a class of malware known as "Remote Administration Tool" including "Hv RAT" that uses TCP Ports 1097, 1099, and in some versions 2283, and this, too, could've been easily checked for in router logs).

The main counterevidence to this is the fact that Rove is still alive, free, and in the USA. One would think that if there were truth to this, if Rove failed as Kingmaker and lost billions of dollars for such a tiny return, that he'd be (with apologies to Neil Gaiman) hiding, trembling, in some obscure South American country.
 
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