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2013-09-28 12:37:54 PM
NBC still makes non-reality, non-day drinking news shows? I did not know that.
 
2013-09-28 12:48:24 PM
obvious: submittard doesn't understand how leadins work, and how one show gained audience compared to leadin while another lost audience.
 
2013-09-28 12:50:30 PM
Sounds like Michael J. Fox's show got off to a shaky start.

In all seriousness, though, I'm not a huge fan of either of them, but I'd take Fox over Williams any day. Does Williams do anything besides the "I'm an annoying manic clown who doesn't tell funny jokes" shtick anymore?
 
2013-09-28 12:55:54 PM
i.somethingawful.com
 
2013-09-28 12:57:17 PM

Leader O'Cola: submittard doesn't understand how leadins work


And LOC doesn't understand how DVR's work, or how many, many, many people turn in for a specific show and don't give a rat's ass about what airs before or after a show.
 
2013-09-28 12:58:14 PM
Glad to see Fox back in the business but his show is not good - it is incredibly depressing. Robin Williams' show isn't any better.  Buffy got old and jowly.
 
Zel
2013-09-28 12:58:17 PM
I really wanted to like the MJF show. Just too boring and pointless. They kept introducing characters and highlighting the disease; blaming it for things, pretending its a joke. The show felt like a sympathy PSA for disease awareness, completely devoid of comedy and plot. Not going to watch a family sitcom about a fake family that isn't funny or relatable. Simpsons are more realistic than the family in that show.

Should have watched the RW+SMG show instead.
 
2013-09-28 01:04:04 PM
Douchebag Matt Lauer cameo (whoever thought that was a good idea needs a kick in the nads with steel toed boot) aside, I think Fox's show is a pleasant way to spend 30 minutes. It's not MUST watch TV but not many are nowadays. Williams's on the other hand is Two and a Half Men-Kutcher terrible.
 
2013-09-28 01:32:21 PM
Best NEW show I've seen this season so far is "Hostages".
 
2013-09-28 01:34:59 PM
You never heard of Good Will Hunting, Dead Poets Society, The World According to Garp or Awakenings?

CaptainFatass: Sounds like Michael J. Fox's show got off to a shaky start.

In all seriousness, though, I'm not a huge fan of either of them, but I'd take Fox over Williams any day. Does Williams do anything besides the "I'm an annoying manic clown who doesn't tell funny jokes" shtick anymore?

 
2013-09-28 01:35:13 PM
I really wanted to like The Crazy Ones. I like Williams, and the cast seemed to be well put together.

What I really objected to was the half hour McDonalds commercial. I hope that the show won't take the 'commerical of the week' route, but I can see that it would be easy for them to do so.
 
2013-09-28 01:45:57 PM
I tried to like MJF's show, but it's a little bland for me.
I skipped Williams show because I've been listening to past comedy shows on Pandora and Williams's stuff just doesn't age well. I used to think he was super funny but like Jim Carrey, his shtick gets old.
That said though, Fox gets a pass forever because I grew up in the 80's and BTTF 1, 2 and 3, Frieghteners and others were awesome.
 
2013-09-28 01:47:10 PM

Superjoe: You never heard of Good Will Hunting, Dead Poets Society, The World According to Garp or Awakenings?

CaptainFatass: Sounds like Michael J. Fox's show got off to a shaky start.

In all seriousness, though, I'm not a huge fan of either of them, but I'd take Fox over Williams any day. Does Williams do anything besides the "I'm an annoying manic clown who doesn't tell funny jokes" shtick anymore?


Oh, he definitely had his run, but those movies were  long, long time ago.
 
2013-09-28 02:32:54 PM

albert71292: Best NEW show I've seen this season so far is "Hostages".


What about the one with Spader on NBC, anyone know if that's any good?
 
2013-09-28 02:42:04 PM

Benjamin Stone: albert71292: Best NEW show I've seen this season so far is "Hostages".

What about the one with Spader on NBC, anyone know if that's any good?


I enjoyed it simply because I think Spader is a good actor. Definitely has potential.
 
2013-09-28 02:44:39 PM

Benjamin Stone: albert71292: Best NEW show I've seen this season so far is "Hostages".

What about the one with Spader on NBC, anyone know if that's any good?


The Black List has potential, if only because of Spader's penchant for smarmy charisma.
 
2013-09-28 02:50:02 PM
I skipped the Michael J Fox show because I knew it was just going to be about his Parkinson's Disease.  My wife's mom watched it and said it wasn't good.

I played Minecraft while the Robin Williams show was on.  The only good part was the Kelly Clarkson sexy meat song.  Beyond that, it was crap.  But honestly, I've never been a Robin Williams fan.  I've tried to like him, honestly I have, but I just don't get him.

I liked 'Parks and Rec', best line was Ron Swanson's "History began on July 4, 1776.  Everything before that was a mistake."

As for 'Two and a Half Men', the Charlie's daughter angle should have been there instead of Walden (at least that way, it would have made sense as for why Alan still hung around), and a horny lesbian girl who hooks up with hot waitresses who later run around in the underwear in the house is enough to get me to come back next week.  Hell, do that on the View and I'll DVR that (not the current cast members, please no).

I even watched that show about the female coach and the kids who form her "Everyone should be allowed to compete!" league who will probably end with "Yeah, the season ended and we all won, even the team we beat, and we won everyone's hearts and minds."  I hope that show dies faster than the show about the monkey in the veterinarian's office.

The only new sitcom that I saw that I enjoyed was that 80's show.
 
2013-09-28 02:55:02 PM

johnnyboog: Buffy got old and jowly.


my wife watched her show, Ringer, on netflix recently.

It did little for me but give me a sad, because it showed me that there is just no way a Buffy movie will ever happen.  Yes, she got a bit old and jowly, didn't she?
 
2013-09-28 02:57:09 PM

Man On A Mission: Leader O'Cola: submittard doesn't understand how leadins work

And LOC doesn't understand how DVR's work, or how many, many, many people turn in for a specific show and don't give a rat's ass about what airs before or after a show.


And right now, advertisers don't give a fark about those people.  It will eventually have to change though.
 
2013-09-28 02:57:55 PM

12349876: advertisers don't give a fark about those people


bullshiat, or all the shows would not have huge annoying ads displayed all over the goddamned programs these days.
 
2013-09-28 02:58:37 PM

Aristocles: frepnog: johnnyboog: Buffy got old and jowly.

my wife watched her show, Ringer, on netflix recently.

It did little for me but give me a sad, because it showed me that there is just no way a Buffy movie will ever happen.  Yes, she got a bit old and jowly, didn't she?

I didn't notice over Clarkson's jowls.


who?
 
2013-09-28 02:58:55 PM

CaptainFatass: Superjoe: You never heard of Good Will Hunting, Dead Poets Society, The World According to Garp or Awakenings?

CaptainFatass: Sounds like Michael J. Fox's show got off to a shaky start.

In all seriousness, though, I'm not a huge fan of either of them, but I'd take Fox over Williams any day. Does Williams do anything besides the "I'm an annoying manic clown who doesn't tell funny jokes" shtick anymore?

Oh, he definitely had his run, but those movies were  long, long time ago.


One hour photo
 
2013-09-28 03:04:56 PM

libranoelrose: CaptainFatass: Superjoe: You never heard of Good Will Hunting, Dead Poets Society, The World According to Garp or Awakenings?

CaptainFatass: Sounds like Michael J. Fox's show got off to a shaky start.

In all seriousness, though, I'm not a huge fan of either of them, but I'd take Fox over Williams any day. Does Williams do anything besides the "I'm an annoying manic clown who doesn't tell funny jokes" shtick anymore?

Oh, he definitely had his run, but those movies were  long, long time ago.

One hour photo


Or World's Greatest Dad, which is just a couple of years old. It was pretty good but had horrible distribution.
 
2013-09-28 03:07:50 PM
I thought the MJF show was...meh. But I'm going to give it a few more chances because I like Wendell Pierce ("Bunk" from The Wire) and I thought his character was pretty funny.
 
2013-09-28 03:17:10 PM

Superjoe: libranoelrose: CaptainFatass: Superjoe: You never heard of Good Will Hunting, Dead Poets Society, The World According to Garp or Awakenings?

CaptainFatass: Sounds like Michael J. Fox's show got off to a shaky start.

In all seriousness, though, I'm not a huge fan of either of them, but I'd take Fox over Williams any day. Does Williams do anything besides the "I'm an annoying manic clown who doesn't tell funny jokes" shtick anymore?

Oh, he definitely had his run, but those movies were  long, long time ago.

One hour photo

Or World's Greatest Dad, which is just a couple of years old. It was pretty good but had horrible distribution.


I'd forgotten about that, it was decent.
 
2013-09-28 03:36:13 PM
I honestly enjoyed the Williams/Gellar show, though I thought it was too short (20 minute runtime!?), but I usually hate sitcoms with a fiery passion, so if it doesn't have real character development, it will lose me after episode 3ish.
 
2013-09-28 03:43:17 PM
My favorite part about the Michael J Fox Show was Betsy Brant sporting purple in the pilot.
 
2013-09-28 03:50:08 PM
I just watched both, and did enjoy Robin Williams' show.  He works well with SMG, they have good banter and overall the scenes felt fluid.  I generally enjoy RW, but I admit that sometimes he's too much.  So far, the supporting cast is strong enough that maybe they can strike a good balance.  I'll keep watching.

The Michael J. Fox show was terrible, it felt like a pity party and there was no real chemistry between any of the actors.  Too many faces, too many one-liners, very little character development.  I expect more from MJF, and I will watch a few more to see if they can get past making a Parkinson's joke (reference?) every 30 seconds.
 
2013-09-28 04:05:36 PM

Superjoe: libranoelrose: CaptainFatass: Superjoe: You never heard of Good Will Hunting, Dead Poets Society, The World According to Garp or Awakenings?

CaptainFatass: Sounds like Michael J. Fox's show got off to a shaky start.

In all seriousness, though, I'm not a huge fan of either of them, but I'd take Fox over Williams any day. Does Williams do anything besides the "I'm an annoying manic clown who doesn't tell funny jokes" shtick anymore?

Oh, he definitely had his run, but those movies were  long, long time ago.

One hour photo

Or World's Greatest Dad, which is just a couple of years old. It was pretty good but had horrible distribution.


I just watched 'disconnect' last night.  Its the best film about teen suicide since World's Greatest Dad.  Much darker though.
 
2013-09-28 06:15:16 PM

CaptainFatass: Sounds like Michael J. Fox's show got off to a shaky start.

In all seriousness, though, I'm not a huge fan of either of them, but I'd take Fox over Williams any day. Does Williams do anything besides the "I'm an annoying manic clown who doesn't tell funny jokes" shtick anymore?


Eh.  I'm not sure how much I fault Williams for the large number of 'manic clown' roles.  It's how he gained his initial notoriety and studios made a good chunk of change off of it.  As a result, if he's being approached for a role, he probably knows he needs to dust off the red, size 50's.

As has been pointed out, he's shown some good range with other performances.  Perhaps the issue isn't so much that he has difficulty with non-clown roles, or dislikes them, or whatever.  I tend to wonder if it's more due to his financial/personal troubles over the years.  He certainly hasn't been in the poor house, but a couple failed marriages and a pair addictions will leave you less able to be choosy.  If Tom Hanks had been snorting blow, I wonder if we might have seen him in a few more "zany, shouting pratfaller" roles.

Though none of that makes any of Williams' later, non-coke-fueled attempts at clownery less painful, so I guess we agree on that much.
 
2013-09-28 07:41:44 PM

frepnog: johnnyboog: Buffy got old and jowly.

my wife watched her show, Ringer, on netflix recently.

It did little for me but give me a sad, because it showed me that there is just no way a Buffy movie will ever happen.  Yes, she got a bit old and jowly, didn't she?


Pic? They all look pretty good on GIS.
 
2013-09-28 08:01:50 PM

Ready-set: frepnog: johnnyboog: Buffy got old and jowly.

my wife watched her show, Ringer, on netflix recently.

It did little for me but give me a sad, because it showed me that there is just no way a Buffy movie will ever happen.  Yes, she got a bit old and jowly, didn't she?

Pic? They all look pretty good on GIS.



Something makes me think they did her look specifically so she would play older.  In fact, it looked to me like some of that jowliness was added in post.
 
2013-09-28 08:49:44 PM

Benjamin Stone: albert71292: Best NEW show I've seen this season so far is "Hostages".

What about the one with Spader on NBC, anyone know if that's any good?


I'll be watching it for the first time in about 10 minutes. NBC is re-airing it tonight.
 
2013-09-28 10:58:53 PM
Robin Williams and Michael J. Fox in sitcoms.

If there was ever a time for the "What year is it" pic, it's now.
 
2013-09-28 11:08:04 PM
I'm glad I don't watch tv and happy I get all my news from fark.
 
2013-09-28 11:24:27 PM
Great Janitor:
The only new sitcom that I saw that I enjoyed was that 80's show.

They need to rename it "Wonder Years for Gen X"
 
2013-09-28 11:28:39 PM
Fox's show is basically him surrounded by caricatures. Andy sandbergs show is pretty funny.
 
2013-09-29 03:25:43 AM

frepnog: johnnyboog: Buffy got old and jowly.

my wife watched her show, Ringer, on netflix recently.

It did little for me but give me a sad, because it showed me that there is just no way a Buffy movie will ever happen.  Yes, she got a bit old and jowly, didn't she?


Looks fine to me, but then I'm old enough to be her dad.
 
2013-09-29 10:49:53 PM

CaptainFatass: Sounds like Michael J. Fox's show got off to a shaky start.

In all seriousness, though, I'm not a huge fan of either of them, but I'd take Fox over Williams any day. Does Williams do anything besides the "I'm an annoying manic clown who doesn't tell funny jokes" shtick anymore?


He's very good as a non-comic actor. He was great in Insomnia and Awakenings.
 
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