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(Rookie Magazine)   Today's non-existent problem that has its own blog: "Food shaming" of women. Just shut up and eat that sammich   (rookiemag.com) divider line 111
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2013-09-28 08:15:04 AM
I think that was the point of the article. Just shut up and eat what you want.
 
2013-09-28 08:26:42 AM
I'm a dude and I look longingly at the pastry case sometimes too. I can't eat everything I want whenever I want either. It's not food shaming it's knowing you'll get fat.
 
2013-09-28 08:32:04 AM
First world problems.
 
2013-09-28 08:39:59 AM
I might stare longingly at a pastry, but I would never hold up the line while engaging the clerk in conversation about buying it.

There's nothing wrong with the occasional indulgence. People who act like this are going to end up binge eating sweets when they finally cave. Most likely more fattening than if they got the damn pastry to begin with.
 
Pud [TotalFark]
2013-09-28 08:45:31 AM
A giant brownie every day - Problem
A giant brownie every once in a while - Not a problem.

/Any questions?
 
2013-09-28 10:33:42 AM
Are women really like this?  Most women I know eat when they're hungry and don't eat when they aren't.
 
2013-09-28 10:35:29 AM

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2013-09-28 10:51:09 AM

I_C_Weener:


That's how you get ants.
 
2013-09-28 11:10:12 AM

ambassador_ahab: Are women really like this? Most women I know eat when they're hungry and don't eat when they aren't.


Depends.  I am an obsessively strange eater and at work, I get constant shiat for NOT eating snacks and sweet things.  I was a really disgustingly overweight kid and have struggled with keeping myself a decent weight as an adult.  I literally changed my palate, over many years, to the point that I simply do not like sweet things.  (Once a month, though, there's still not a damned thing I can do about chocolate cravings, though I will only eat the darkest chocolate.)

In an odd way, because so many women feel guilty for eating things like cookies or cake or whatever, I've noticed a tendency of a lot of women who pick up on how "strangely" I eat making comments at me about not partaking in things.  I work at a desk all day! I usually have a cup of oatmeal in the morning, and over the day a piece of fruit and a granola bar, or maybe a lean cuisine.  I don't need much else to get through a day of typing, reading, and making phone calls.  I'm not that different on weekends, really.  My plans today are to clean the hell out of our apartment and maybe go to the store, so I had chicken on a flax and fiber flatbread for breakfast, and some vitamins. *shrug*

Comments like 'you eat like an anorexic bird!" or "you know you want it, you don't have to show off!" are common, when in reality, it's just what I like.  I once was eating raspberries and pea pods from a farmer's market and got yelled at by a co-worker for being "unhealthy".  It's weird.  But I find it's generally women cannibalizing other women for what they don't eat, because they want to feel better about the things that they feel "guilty" about eating - whether or not that i justified.

And at the same time, the same people who make comments about how I eat are also the first to say they are so in awe of how I lost almost 20 lbs. since the end of July, so... who knows? Women are weird.
 
2013-09-28 11:31:26 AM

serpent_sky: Comments like 'you eat like an anorexic bird!" or "you know you want it, you don't have to show off!" are common, when in reality, it's just what I like.  I once was eating raspberries and pea pods from a farmer's market and got yelled at by a co-worker for being "unhealthy".  It's weird.  But I find it's generally women cannibalizing other women for what they don't eat, because they want to feel better about the things that they feel "guilty" about eating - whether or not that i justified.


A lot of women don't want to eat treats like cookies in front of someone who isn't eating them, because they feel like they're the only one indulging in a crowd of the abstemious.  It makes them feel isolated and singled out as "the one who's always eating" or "the one with no self control."   But if everyone's having cookies, it's okay.

Since you're never "indulging," you must have superior self control -- they suppose -- and they want to see you fall so you're no longer better than they are.
 
2013-09-28 11:37:30 AM

Chariset: ince you're never "indulging," you must have superior self control -- they suppose -- and they want to see you fall so you're no longer better than they are.


Jeebus, women are evil to each other.
 
2013-09-28 11:47:35 AM

serpent_sky: Comments like 'you eat like an anorexic bird!" or "you know you want it, you don't have to show off!" are common, when in reality, it's just what I like.


I get a lot of comments like that since I'm skinny. "Oh, go ahead, it's not going to hurt you!" and "Geez, you're so skinny, go ahead and eat more!" and stuff like that. In truth, I eat a lot of crappy food and am not really worried about what I eat. I just don't like to eat a lot.
My mother was one of the worst offenders and thanks to her, I had eating disorders for years. STFU, ma!

/she did. She's dead.
 
2013-09-28 11:48:36 AM

ambassador_ahab: Chariset: ince you're never "indulging," you must have superior self control -- they suppose -- and they want to see you fall so you're no longer better than they are.

Jeebus, women are evil to each other.


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2013-09-28 11:49:09 AM
How about a simple: "when you eat unhealthy shiat you get fat. Male, female, dog, chicken."
 
2013-09-28 11:51:06 AM
Ah, the pathologies of excess.
 
2013-09-28 11:55:30 AM
I'm not sure what that author was blithering about.  I like a gal that's not afraid to eat.
 
2013-09-28 11:58:17 AM
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"Boy, that raspberry brownie sure looks delicious!"
 
2013-09-28 12:00:43 PM
Women today have forgotten how to vomit / that author sounds fat
 
2013-09-28 12:00:44 PM
She sounds like she hasn't grasped the fact that the world doesn't care about your interior monologue and EVERYONE over 35 needs to watch what they eat.
 
2013-09-28 12:02:05 PM

Chariset: serpent_sky: Comments like 'you eat like an anorexic bird!" or "you know you want it, you don't have to show off!" are common, when in reality, it's just what I like.  I once was eating raspberries and pea pods from a farmer's market and got yelled at by a co-worker for being "unhealthy".  It's weird.  But I find it's generally women cannibalizing other women for what they don't eat, because they want to feel better about the things that they feel "guilty" about eating - whether or not that i justified.

A lot of women don't want to eat treats like cookies in front of someone who isn't eating them, because they feel like they're the only one indulging in a crowd of the abstemious.  It makes them feel isolated and singled out as "the one who's always eating" or "the one with no self control."   But if everyone's having cookies, it's okay.

Since you're never "indulging," you must have superior self control -- they suppose -- and they want to see you fall so you're no longer better than they are.


I'm like that, except for BOOZE!
 
2013-09-28 12:02:29 PM
Women have more shame and guilt than the confessional in a Catholic church.  Every week I hear about some new species of shame . . . fat shaming, thin shaming, slut shaming, child shaming, childless shaming.  It goes on and on.  How about consider the consequences of your actions and stop caring so much about what everyone else thinks of you?  You're a grown up; you're not supposed to have the emotional maturity of an eighth grader.
 
2013-09-28 12:02:38 PM

EvilEgg: I'm a dude and I look longingly at the pastry case sometimes too. I can't eat everything I want whenever I want either. It's not food shaming it's knowing you'll get fat.


So.....fat shaming then.  People still feel ashamed, that's part of the problem.
 
2013-09-28 12:06:53 PM
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2013-09-28 12:07:11 PM
Of course the angelically thin chime in with judgments about the fat. Just once I'd like to read something where we are all treated as human beings instead of things to be loathed or admired.
 
2013-09-28 12:07:34 PM

Ambivalence: EvilEgg: I'm a dude and I look longingly at the pastry case sometimes too. I can't eat everything I want whenever I want either. It's not food shaming it's knowing you'll get fat.

So.....fat shaming then.  People still feel ashamed, that's part of the problem.


Yeah, but at the same time, I don't think we really have reached a good way to deal with and think about weight and body image.  It seems like these discussions lurch into one or two areas: etiher people who aren't anorexic are shamed for lacking self-control, or people say that there should be no criticism of people's bodies at all, and if you want to be a 400 lb whale, that's fine and it's everyone else's problem, not yours.  Given the severe problems obesity causes, I don't think that wholesale acceptance is the answer, but there's gotta be a way to do this, to encourage healthy eating and a reasonable weight, without the shame.
 
2013-09-28 12:07:59 PM
I think it's only going to be a matter of a few years before most of obesity in 1st world countries becomes a thing of the past.  It might sound gross, but scientists have discovered some kind of compound in sperm that has proven to be almost a miracle cure for obesity.  From what I recall, it's something like an insulin analog that's more effective at regulating blood sugar than most pharmaceuticals, it signals the body to release stored fat and acts as an appetite suppressant.  Surprisingly, it occurs in sufficient quantities in human semen that it would only take a few teaspoons to distill down to an effective daily dose.
 
2013-09-28 12:08:14 PM
FTA: Girls and women of the world, could we stop apologizing for wanting and eating food?

Yes, this is a real problem. Women have been socialized to judge themselves and others on their weight and they feel like they'll be judged for having the occasional sweet. I don't have pastries often (honest, I don't) but I do see one of those pretty, shiny ones and it's that voice inside that says "you probably shouldn't have that." Sometimes I pass it up and sometimes I don't. I spend some time doing the mental calculus to get to what degree of guilt I'll feel after you eat it. Sure, it would be super easy and simple to say "I'll eat it" or "I won't eat it." But in my mind, it really isn't that simple. Yes, I'm neurotic. I'm not the only one.
 
2013-09-28 12:10:16 PM
Can we please stop enabling this constant victim status seeking?
 
2013-09-28 12:10:24 PM

MrHappyRotter: I think it's only going to be a matter of a few years before most of obesity in 1st world countries becomes a thing of the past.  It might sound gross, but scientists have discovered some kind of compound in sperm that has proven to be almost a miracle cure for obesity.  From what I recall, it's something like an insulin analog that's more effective at regulating blood sugar than most pharmaceuticals, it signals the body to release stored fat and acts as an appetite suppressant.  Surprisingly, it occurs in sufficient quantities in human semen that it would only take a few teaspoons to distill down to an effective daily dose.


link please
 
2013-09-28 12:13:25 PM
I think the lesson here is that women are insane and they're incredibly mean to each other.
 
2013-09-28 12:13:46 PM

ramblinwreck: Can we please stop enabling this constant victim status seeking?


This.

I'm almost back down to my ideal weight simply by being mindful of what I eat.

It's not rocket science.
 
2013-09-28 12:14:21 PM

The Dog Ate My Homework: I think the lesson here is that women are insane and they're incredibly mean to each other.


Also this.
 
2013-09-28 12:16:02 PM
An advice columnist wrote the following in re: first date behavior.

"Order a slab of protein.  Eat it."
 
2013-09-28 12:16:22 PM
FTA: Girls and women of the world, could we stop apologizing for wanting and eating food?

So a brownie is food now?  I understand the author's point but getting all worked up because a woman is having second thoughts about ingesting a bunch of extra worthless calories is not the same thing as starving yourself.
 
2013-09-28 12:16:59 PM
Damn lady eat the pastry. I am sure they have a rest room you can throw up in.
 
2013-09-28 12:17:05 PM

gaslight: She sounds like she hasn't grasped the fact that the world doesn't care about your interior monologue and EVERYONE over 35 needs to watch what they eat.


This is very true.
When I hit +/-35 and my metabolism slowed (or whatever the hell happens at that point in life) I ballooned. I didn't notice initially as it wasn't overnight, plus I'd recently moved to the USA and was too happy eating all the richer foods in bigger portions to stop, plus I was drunk most of the time and didn't give a damn, plus (last one I promise) I just thought gaining weight as middle-age approaches was inevitable.
Now I'm mid-forties and weigh the same as I did when I was 20, my BMI is back in the green (fwiw...) and I no longer get out of breath doing moderate exercise.
So, I dodged the bullet?
In some ways yes, but I do think I've developed an eating disorder, I am very strict with my intake and whenever I notice I've lapsed I punish myself.
My point? Not sure, maybe simply that some of us 'average weight' folks are just as screwed up as the 'overweight'. They lack moderation, we lack moderation.
 
2013-09-28 12:17:41 PM

serpent_sky: ambassador_ahab: Are women really like this? Most women I know eat when they're hungry and don't eat when they aren't.

Depends.  I am an obsessively strange eater and at work, I get constant shiat for NOT eating snacks and sweet things.  I was a really disgustingly overweight kid and have struggled with keeping myself a decent weight as an adult.  I literally changed my palate, over many years, to the point that I simply do not like sweet things.  (Once a month, though, there's still not a damned thing I can do about chocolate cravings, though I will only eat the darkest chocolate.)

In an odd way, because so many women feel guilty for eating things like cookies or cake or whatever, I've noticed a tendency of a lot of women who pick up on how "strangely" I eat making comments at me about not partaking in things.  I work at a desk all day! I usually have a cup of oatmeal in the morning, and over the day a piece of fruit and a granola bar, or maybe a lean cuisine.  I don't need much else to get through a day of typing, reading, and making phone calls.  I'm not that different on weekends, really.  My plans today are to clean the hell out of our apartment and maybe go to the store, so I had chicken on a flax and fiber flatbread for breakfast, and some vitamins. *shrug*

Comments like 'you eat like an anorexic bird!" or "you know you want it, you don't have to show off!" are common, when in reality, it's just what I like.  I once was eating raspberries and pea pods from a farmer's market and got yelled at by a co-worker for being "unhealthy".  It's weird.  But I find it's generally women cannibalizing other women for what they don't eat, because they want to feel better about the things that they feel "guilty" about eating - whether or not that i justified.

And at the same time, the same people who make comments about how I eat are also the first to say they are so in awe of how I lost almost 20 lbs. since the end of July, so... who knows? Women are weird.


You seem to spend a lot of time thinking about food.
 
2013-09-28 12:23:32 PM

I_C_Weener:


Is that how you get ants other Barry?
 
2013-09-28 12:23:57 PM
I used to eat whatever I wanted because food is yummy and I like yummy things. That kind of thinking got me to 200 pounds and at 5'7''that is horrible. My joints ached, I could barely walk up a flight of stairs. Over the past year, I changed my thinking to food is fuel. I got off my fat arse and did cardio and lifted weights. I'm now at a healthy 150. I don't really crave sweets too much, but if I do I eat a little bit and I'm good. I read somewhere that two bites is all it takes to satisfy a craving.

When I was a fatty, everybody would say things like you could be so pretty if you lost some weight. Now that I'm healthier, people say things like, you're wasting away. And try to feed me shiatty foods. For women, we're damned if we do, damned if we don't. Luckily, my good friends have always loved me no matter how much I weigh. So, I say fark all them other biatches.
 
2013-09-28 12:24:57 PM

RRicochet: Of course the angelically thin chime in with judgments about the fat. Just once I'd like to read something where we are all treated as human beings instead of things to be loathed or admired.


things Moms say to fat ugly daughters
 
2013-09-28 12:25:16 PM
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2013-09-28 12:28:44 PM
I eat everything I want, I just watch how much of it I eat. It's amazing how well that works.
 
2013-09-28 12:28:51 PM

MrHappyRotter: I think it's only going to be a matter of a few years before most of obesity in 1st world countries becomes a thing of the past.  It might sound gross, but scientists have discovered some kind of compound in sperm that has proven to be almost a miracle cure for obesity.  From what I recall, it's something like an insulin analog that's more effective at regulating blood sugar than most pharmaceuticals, it signals the body to release stored fat and acts as an appetite suppressant.  Surprisingly, it occurs in sufficient quantities in human semen that it would only take a few teaspoons to distill down to an effective daily dose.


Sorry. Much like a bucket of wet tennis balls, no one's buying it.

Nice try, though.
 
2013-09-28 12:32:26 PM
Do former fat girls still give the same amount of blow jobs as they did when they were fat?
 
2013-09-28 12:33:05 PM

theflatline: Do former fat girls still give the same amount of blow jobs as they did when they were fat?


I asked your mom and she said no.
 
2013-09-28 12:34:19 PM

theflatline: Do former fat girls still give the same amount of blow jobs as they did when they were fat?


Yes, we do. Because we're still hungry. ;-)
 
2013-09-28 12:35:42 PM
I'm especially happy with today's token Fark Misogyny Thread™ since rookiemag is meant to be a healthy and positive influence for adolescent/teenage girls.  So, who better to weigh in on those issues than the 30-something white heterosexual men who populate this site!?
 
2013-09-28 12:36:28 PM

FraggleStickCar: I'm especially happy with today's token Fark Misogyny Thread™ since rookiemag is meant to be a healthy and positive influence for adolescent/teenage girls.  So, who better to weigh in on those issues than the 30-something white heterosexual men who populate this site!?


I bet the patriarchy did it.
 
2013-09-28 12:41:09 PM

FraggleStickCar: I'm especially happy with today's token Fark Misogyny Thread™ since rookiemag is meant to be a healthy and positive influence for adolescent/teenage girls.  So, who better to weigh in on those issues than the 30-something white heterosexual men who populate this site!?


You must be new here.

Outing myself assubby, and I'm certainly not "some hungry gal." WTH mods? And I'm not white. And I'm not in my 30s, and I'm not heterosexual. Try harder next time.
 
2013-09-28 12:41:11 PM

ambassador_ahab: Are women really like this?  Most women I know eat when they're hungry and don't eat when they aren't.


The crowd I run with has changed significantly over the years (thank goodness) but I used to know women who would chew on ice cubes all day because apparently broken teeth are better than just eating the damn potato chips.
 
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