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2013-09-27 06:18:34 PM
This headline reminds me of a random thought I had the other day

Why would Ariel Castro plead guilty to avoid the death penalty then off himself not even a month later?
 
2013-09-27 06:21:42 PM
Not even SLIGHTLY Unusual.


I would rather be in jail than on a 5150 anyway.
 
2013-09-27 06:22:50 PM
Suppose it's better that it happened in Dubai than Saudi Arabia, where the punishment would likely be beheading.
 
2013-09-27 06:24:56 PM
(Attempted) suicide is illegal almost everywhere and has been forever, livingunderarockmitter.
 
2013-09-27 06:25:14 PM
Murder, even self-murder, is still mostly illegal.
 
2013-09-27 06:25:26 PM
How does this headline deserve the 'strange' tag? This is considered a crime pretty much everywhere.

Perhaps subby should try it and see what happens.

/see my funny? yes I was joking of course, but subby is still a tard, as well as the mod who approved this
 
2013-09-27 06:25:35 PM
As well you should for dragging me out of bed at 3am for your emo ass.
 
2013-09-27 06:28:17 PM

cman: This headline reminds me of a random thought I had the other day

Why would Ariel Castro plead guilty to avoid the death penalty then off himself not even a month later?


His terms, not theirs?

I mean, I suppose it's the same reason they rush suicide-attempting prisoners to the hospital even if said prisoner was on death row.
 
2013-09-27 06:28:56 PM
Unless subby and the mod is Norwegian, I'm not sure how this is even remotely "strange."
 
2013-09-27 06:30:01 PM

ABQGOD: Unless subby and the mod is Norwegian, I'm not sure how this is even remotely "strange."


Normally in western nations one isn't jailed for attempted suicide
 
2013-09-27 06:30:03 PM
Also, if he was really trying to commit suicide, headline might have been better (-ish) as "Bad: You attempt to commit suicide. Worse: You get rushed into the hospital and survive. Worst: You get jailed for your suicide attempt"
 
2013-09-27 06:33:06 PM
A Norwegian man has been jailed for a month in Dubai for attempted suicide, after slashing one of his wrists with a bread knife during a heated argument with his wife.


Dude wasn't jailed for the suicide attempt, he was jailed for be an melodramatic drama queen.
 
2013-09-27 06:33:08 PM

cman: ABQGOD: Unless subby and the mod is Norwegian, I'm not sure how this is even remotely "strange."

Normally in western nations one isn't jailed for attempted suicide


Still sent for psych evaluation though. It's incarceration just the same.
 
2013-09-27 06:34:28 PM

Shadow Blasko: Not even SLIGHTLY Unusual.


I would rather be in jail than on a 5150 anyway.


Disagrees:

www.halen.com
 
2013-09-27 06:35:30 PM

ongbok: Dude wasn't jailed for the suicide attempt, he was jailed for be an melodramatic drama queen.


Welcome to my world. Less that 1% of the attempts I have dealt with have been successful, the rest have been melodramatic drama queens.
 
2013-09-27 06:36:10 PM

Learned Hand Job: Suppose it's better that it happened in Dubai than Saudi Arabia, where the punishment would likely be beheading.


Only if the accused is female. Then it's a beheading.

Otherwise it's just a slash on the wrist and they send you on your way.
 
2013-09-27 06:40:08 PM
Meanwhile in the US, after being released from hospital, you start receiving bills for the ambulance and hospital because your insurance carrier either flagged the providers as out of network or they "lost" your paperwork, resulting in a refusal to pay.  You are suddenly straddled with thousands in debt that you cannot afford.  Hours are spent on the phone with your insurance company to no avail.  Meanwhile, you are constantly hounded by unscrupulous debt collectors who contact you every day to pay up.  They eventually start calling your workplace, your parents' house and find you on social media.  Your employer, a large bank, gets wise to your situation and fires you since debt abandonment is against policy.

Not exactly incentive to avoid suicide attempt #2.
 
2013-09-27 06:41:23 PM

cman: ABQGOD: Unless subby and the mod is Norwegian, I'm not sure how this is even remotely "strange."

Normally in western nations one isn't jailed for attempted suicide


It's sad how much people glorify suicide these days. It's like people don't understand they are glorifying suicide by creating silly tribute pages on Facebook and things like that. Suicide is a huge problem. Hell, we had two unrelated suicides in our small county yesterday, both leaving behind small children. We need to understand what we're doing wrong and most people clearly do not. Committing suicide over relationships is especially selfish.
 
2013-09-27 06:43:47 PM
Good? It's good she was saved?
Subby's obviously not a Deather!!
 
2013-09-27 06:47:37 PM

Lipspinach: (Attempted) suicide is illegal almost everywhere and has been forever, livingunderarockmitter.


"Everywhere" == "countries which have adopted a Judeo-Christian-influenced or Islamic legal system" (or had it shoved down their throats when colonized).

Suicide has long been a culturally accepted, and in some cases, even honored, practice in Asia, and many other parts of the world.
 
2013-09-27 06:48:12 PM
i.imgur.com

If you're going to attempt suicide during an argument with your significant other, don't dick around.
 
2013-09-27 06:52:51 PM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: If you're going to attempt suicide during an argument with your significant other, don't dick around.


Is that Elliot Smith?
 
2013-09-27 06:53:29 PM

cman: ABQGOD: Unless subby and the mod is Norwegian, I'm not sure how this is even remotely "strange."

Normally in western nations one isn't jailed for attempted suicide


They just take away all of your rights and toss you in the loony bin until some quack can figure out the maximum number of drugs they can give you so you'll continue to be a revenue source for the rest of your life.
 
2013-09-27 06:54:29 PM
attempted suicide! that's a hangin' offense son
 
2013-09-27 06:59:53 PM
Do they give a Nobel prize for attempted chemistry?
 
2013-09-27 07:03:39 PM
With all the tall buildings in Dubai he could have jumped and called an ambulance on the way down.
 
2013-09-27 07:04:14 PM

ransack.: Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: If you're going to attempt suicide during an argument with your significant other, don't dick around.

Is that Elliot Smith?


Unfortunately, yes.
 
2013-09-27 07:05:50 PM

cman: ABQGOD: Unless subby and the mod is Norwegian, I'm not sure how this is even remotely "strange."

Normally in western nations one isn't jailed for attempted suicide


It's pretty much standard procedure, if only to make sure you can be legally detained for a while. Getting someone institutionalized isn't easy.
 
2013-09-27 07:07:24 PM

cman: This headline reminds me of a random thought I had the other day

Why would Ariel Castro plead guilty to avoid the death penalty then off himself not even a month later?


Did he actually kill anyone or did he just keep them hostage?  Wasn't there a SC decision in the last 10 years or so that said the death penalty can only be applied in cases that involve murder?
 
2013-09-27 07:08:23 PM
"How does this headline deserve the 'strange' tag? This is considered a crime pretty much everywhere.

Perhaps subby should try it and see what happens.

/see my funny? yes I was joking of course, but subby is still a tard, as well as the mod who approved this "


Actually suicide or attempted suicide is not a criminal offense in any state in the US. It is a criminal offense in most states to assist in suicide and you can be involuntarily confined if your deemed a threat to yourself or others, but there are no longer any criminal laws that would make it a felony or misdemeanor.
 
2013-09-27 07:11:55 PM
Dear God, I would rather commit suicide than spend a month in a Dubai prison.
 
2013-09-27 07:12:13 PM

suid: Lipspinach: (Attempted) suicide is illegal almost everywhere and has been forever, livingunderarockmitter.

"Everywhere" == "countries which have adopted a Judeo-Christian-influenced or Islamic legal system" (or had it shoved down their throats when colonized).

Suicide has long been a culturally accepted, and in some cases, even honored, practice in Asia, and many other parts of the world.


Yeah I know this, that's why I said ALMOST everywhere. I wish it was culturally accepted everywhere.
I still don't understand why it is such a big no-no for Catholics et al. Maybe because it would put a dent in their revenue stream?
 
2013-09-27 07:12:42 PM
Grandfather blew his head off with a shotgun last December. As sad as it sounds, he was not seeking attention and help like most people who attempt suicide do. He wanted release from the pain that bone cancer was causing him.
 
2013-09-27 07:17:43 PM

Warlordtrooper: cman: This headline reminds me of a random thought I had the other day

Why would Ariel Castro plead guilty to avoid the death penalty then off himself not even a month later?

Did he actually kill anyone or did he just keep them hostage?  Wasn't there a SC decision in the last 10 years or so that said the death penalty can only be applied in cases that involve murder?


He was convicted of killing unborn children
 
2013-09-27 07:18:26 PM

wild9: Grandfather blew his head off with a shotgun last December. As sad as it sounds, he was not seeking attention and help like most people who attempt suicide do. He wanted release from the pain that bone cancer was causing him.


I might as well add to this. Suicide never helps anyone. Granted, I see why grandpa did what he did but it farking destroyed the family. He left a note. "The pain was unbearable"  fark that was it.

Unless you have a terminal illness, your life can't be that bad. I turn 31 in October, I have three DUI's in the past six years, do all sorts of stuff for probation and have 11 months in county over my head. I owe $40k in student loans but have no job because I have no license right now.  I have a son I never see. I live with my parents.

Life sucks right now but you know what? Every day I wake up sober, it gets a little bit better.
 
2013-09-27 07:19:39 PM

Warlordtrooper: cman: This headline reminds me of a random thought I had the other day

Why would Ariel Castro plead guilty to avoid the death penalty then off himself not even a month later?

Did he actually kill anyone or did he just keep them hostage?  Wasn't there a SC decision in the last 10 years or so that said the death penalty can only be applied in cases that involve murder?


He beat to death fetuses that were inside of one of the woman

If you kill a fetus and the mother doesn't have a choice in the matter, that is considered to be murder.
 
2013-09-27 07:21:22 PM
He should have gone to the Netherlands and told them he was terminally ill.
 
2013-09-27 07:26:33 PM

Lipspinach: Yeah I know this, that's why I said ALMOST everywhere. I wish it was culturally accepted everywhere.
I still don't understand why it is such a big no-no for Catholics et al. Maybe because it would put a dent in their revenue stream?


That would be a cynical take :-).  From a consistency viewpoint, I'd say that this attitude comes from the principle that God alone is responsible for giving life and taking it away.  But then it's sort of hard to reconcile that with things like war (well, that's properly handled in the Bible) and the death penalty (not quite so well..)
 
2013-09-27 07:29:45 PM
www.explosm.net
 
2013-09-27 07:39:14 PM
Suicide : Still the only crime you get in more trouble for attempting than for commiting
 
2013-09-27 07:41:24 PM
How..... Does one slash one's wrists with a bread knife?
That's skill.
 
2013-09-27 07:42:33 PM

suid: Lipspinach: Yeah I know this, that's why I said ALMOST everywhere. I wish it was culturally accepted everywhere.
I still don't understand why it is such a big no-no for Catholics et al. Maybe because it would put a dent in their revenue stream?

That would be a cynical take :-).  From a consistency viewpoint, I'd say that this attitude comes from the principle that God alone is responsible for giving life and taking it away.  But then it's sort of hard to reconcile that with things like war (well, that's properly handled in the Bible) and the death penalty (not quite so well..)


Yeah I was being a tad snide. But I have always wondered why the whole "be fruitful & multiply" is such a big thing. To be honest, I always figured it was a money- making thing. The more children brought up in the religion, the more money in their coffers. You sound rational; any ideas on this?

/went to a Catholic high school though I wasn't Catholic. Parents sent me there for discipline.
I am pretty cynical about the whole thing, but to each his own. :)
 
2013-09-27 07:56:41 PM

brax33: How..... Does one slash one's wrists with a bread knife?


Bread knife, not butter knife.

Most bread knives are 5" or 8" serrated blades that could cut through turkey bones without issue.  Breaking the skin would be easy.

ecx.images-amazon.com
 
2013-09-27 07:59:14 PM
Ah.... Lol thanks for the pic.... For some reason my brain saw bread and thought butter.
 
2013-09-27 08:03:02 PM

brax33: Ah.... Lol thanks for the pic.... For some reason my brain saw bread and thought butter.


Count yourself blessed, I am now that I am eating that very thing, thanks for the suggestion.
 
2013-09-27 08:05:30 PM

cman: This headline reminds me of a random thought I had the other day
Why would Ariel Castro plead guilty to avoid the death penalty then off himself not even a month later?


Maybe he thought he could hack prison before spending a month there.
Maybe pleading guilty was more about avoiding a trial.
Maybe he planned to off himself all along and figured he'd have a better chance if he wasn't on death row.

And, of course:
Maybe he didn't really commit suicide.
 
2013-09-27 08:55:15 PM
Frankly, if he's one of those bridge jumpers who makes 200,000 people late for work, he deserves jail time. Or if there is any other major disruption, like the ambulance that saved his life was tied up while somebody else needed it.

And if he has any assets, he should forfeit them to pay for the cost of his incarceration and court costs, etc.
 
2013-09-27 09:00:57 PM
In other news backwards barbarians continue to be backwards, barbaric.
 
2013-09-27 09:03:42 PM

JesusJuice: In other news backwards barbarians continue to be backwards, barbaric.


but enough about attitudes towards mental health in the United States...
 
2013-09-27 09:51:20 PM
This just in, never EVER do anything in the UAE.
 
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