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(io9)   That scary drug "Krokodil" from Russia that spread to America? Guess where it really originates from. Go ahead, guess. (warning: graphic images)   (io9.com) divider line 128
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2013-09-27 06:39:14 PM  
Read the TFA. What answer do you want, subby? USA, Switzerland or Russia?
 
2013-09-27 06:50:05 PM  
In before the "Druggies deserve to have their flesh fall off" comments
 
2013-09-27 06:54:33 PM  
Anyone hungry? I could go for some kabobs right now...
 
2013-09-27 07:02:30 PM  
Burkina Faso?
 
2013-09-27 07:04:52 PM  
Ok, wow. That was a bit more graphic than I expected...
 
2013-09-27 07:13:15 PM  
The more you know...
 
2013-09-27 07:13:19 PM  

Honest Bender: Ok, wow. That was a bit more graphic than I expected...


Very graphic. Do not click if you're at all squeamish.
 
2013-09-27 07:14:21 PM  
That's one of the lamest link baiting articles ever. "Origins in America" because the opiate was invented here. The Russians are the ones that decided to mix it with gasoline, lighter fluid, and paint thinner.
 
2013-09-27 07:16:19 PM  

Honest Bender: Ok, wow. That was a bit more graphic than I expected...


Nah, it's just someone's messed up hand...

OH MY GOD THAT'S BONE!!!
 
2013-09-27 07:17:02 PM  
*clicks link - scans pictures - closes tab*

www.funelf.net

i.imgur.com

www.roflcat.com
 
2013-09-27 07:17:38 PM  
How is the person with exposed bone not bleeding everywhere?
 
2013-09-27 07:17:49 PM  
NOPE NOPE NOPE

The graphic warning isn't warningish enough!
 
2013-09-27 07:20:34 PM  
I can't see this catching on in America like it did in Russia. This isn't really a desirable drug; the only reason it has a market is because Russia has a lot of heroin junkies who don't have much money.

Krokodil is the drug that you do when you're flat broke and hitting rock bottom while suffering heroin withdrawal because you can't afford it.
 
2013-09-27 07:23:21 PM  
There's a link you a YouTube video posted somewhere deep in the comments. I'm not going to post it here, but if you think the photos are bad, you ain't seen nothing 'til you've seen these kinds of wounds with the people moving around.

Oh, and youtube had an "inappropriate content" warning over the video. I hadn't seen that before today...
 
2013-09-27 07:23:23 PM  

Gig103: That's one of the lamest link baiting articles ever. "Origins in America" because the opiate was invented here. The Russians are the ones that decided to mix it with gasoline, lighter fluid, and paint thinner.


This.

It are the impurities, especially iodine, that make your flesh fall off.

Strolpol: I can't see this catching on in America like it did in Russia. This isn't really a desirable drug; the only reason it has a market is because Russia has a lot of heroin junkies who don't have much money.

Krokodil is the drug that you do when you're flat broke and hitting rock bottom while suffering heroin withdrawal because you can't afford it.


Plus the ingredients to make it like they do in Russia aren't available in the U.S from what I understand.
 
2013-09-27 07:24:15 PM  
...so you're saying we were doing it before it was cool?
 
2013-09-27 07:27:14 PM  

The Briny Derp: ...so you're saying we were doing it before it was cool?


Just another in a long line of addiction substitutes: morphine to cure opium addiction, heroin to cure morphine addiction, methadone to cure heroin addiction. The drug in question was just a step before heroin.
 
2013-09-27 07:30:19 PM  

Sergeant Grumbles: How is the person with exposed bone not bleeding everywhere?


It's Gangrene,It happens. People lose toes and fingers to that. It was common in the Civil War.It's why Patton recommended everybody have two pair of socks. So they would notice if they lost a foot.
 
2013-09-27 07:30:21 PM  
It certainly pays to check out the comments before clicking on TFA.

/Nopenopenopenopenope.
//I'd rather sleep soundly, kthxbye.
 
2013-09-27 07:30:49 PM  

Sergeant Grumbles: How is the person with exposed bone not bleeding everywhere?


I'm no medical type person, but I'm going to guess that the blood vessels are all dead, which is why the flesh rots off - no blood flow.

Also: Nope.
 
2013-09-27 07:31:52 PM  
Krokodils originate in Egypt

api.tape.tv

Schnappi Schnappi Schnapp
 
2013-09-27 07:38:22 PM  
 
2013-09-27 07:42:54 PM  
I just had to drink a bunch of beer and eat a sardine sandwich before I came into this thread and clicked links, didn't I.

/HURRFF
 
2013-09-27 07:44:32 PM  
Go Go Gadget Darwin Spike.
 
2013-09-27 07:47:59 PM  
fusillade762 [TotalFark]
2013-09-27 06:50:05 PM


In before the "Druggies deserve to have their flesh fall off" comments
.. and it's McDonald's fault you're fat too.
 
2013-09-27 07:53:53 PM  
It's showing up in Phoenix Arizona.

/ Another vote for "Druggies deserve to have their flesh fall off"
 
2013-09-27 07:57:45 PM  

StopLurkListen: I thought this was an urban legend.


Did you look at the link you posted? Snopes has it listed as true.
 
2013-09-27 08:00:56 PM  
Thank gawd Russia doesn't treat their junkies as if it's a medical condition and instead handcuffs them to their beds. I'm sure that will be great for these Krokodil users.

/The handcuffs are for the ones that AREN'T in jail/prison already, BTW
 
2013-09-27 08:02:14 PM  

Honest Bender: Ok, wow. That was a bit more graphic than I expected...


My stomach turned and I got a little squirt of that salty saliva taste at the base of my tongue.  I very nearly threw up on my keyboard.  I'm going to agree with the gentleman above with who posted a solid run of 'nope' pictures.
 
2013-09-27 08:08:45 PM  

Sergeant Grumbles: How is the person with exposed bone not bleeding everywhere?


How is all that exposed bone and leftovers not a putrefied mess of infection?  Can't imagine skin grafts will be enough for that to ever again resemble a human limb.

The photos are grotesque, yet oddly fascinating - not that I didn't wince and pucker at first.
 
2013-09-27 08:11:01 PM  

Sergeant Grumbles: How is the person with exposed bone not bleeding everywhere?


If that's an honest question, here's an honest answer. I know it's a bit graphic, but I hope this helps explain what happens.  

It's a very slow process. As blood flow decreases, vessels shrink and close off aided by the platelets - usually starting in the smallest capillaries which mostly reside in the many layers of the skin. Vessels closed this way don't bleed but also don't feed essential nutrients to tissues. Necrosis (cell death) sets in, skin dies and sloughs off. Scabs form and thicken, then fall off, deeper and deeper, through skin, fat and muscle - eventually revealing healthy tissue with no protective covering at all.

If no infection sets in, one of two things happen. Sometimes the body starts to OH-so-slowly heal itself by growing new tissue to cover this exposed deep tissue (granulation), but normally the lack of normal blood flow means the wound remains open, unhealed and vulnerable. (It takes a lot of effort for your body to protect itself, so if it's constantly fighting off infection there is not much energy reserves left to grow new tissue.) That's when surgical intervention - meaning tissue transplants and skin grafts - are necessary. Otherwise it's only a matter of time before a massive infection overwhelms the body's ability to defend itself and death results.

Hope this helps.
 
2013-09-27 08:14:03 PM  
How can that person even lift their ARM like that. Has to have been taken in a hospital after the wound had been cleaned.
 
2013-09-27 08:15:35 PM  

fusillade762: In before the "Druggies deserve to have their flesh fall off" comments


The dealers of this shiat do.
 
2013-09-27 08:21:43 PM  

there their theyre: How can that person even lift their ARM like that. Has to have been taken in a hospital after the wound had been cleaned.


Or it's fake.
 
2013-09-27 08:22:32 PM  

Strolpol: I can't see this catching on in America like it did in Russia. This isn't really a desirable drug; the only reason it has a market is because Russia has a lot of heroin junkies who don't have much money.

Krokodil is the drug that you do when you're flat broke and hitting rock bottom while suffering heroin withdrawal because you can't afford it.


Yep.  It's essentially the drug equivilant of mouthwash for broke winos.
 
2013-09-27 08:24:11 PM  
Bonus: Users have a 1-3 year life expectancy following first-time use. (citation is CNN, so your discretion)

Please, under whatever gods you all believe in, or don't believe in, I don't care, but please please please send up a prayer/wish/chant/whatever that my SIL doesn't find this stuff.

/she's already been in the hospital twice because her dealer (meth and heroin) choked her out to the point of unconsciousness. I really don't want my fiance to have to deal with this nightmare, and SoCal is close enough to AZ that if it's there, it's already here.
 
2013-09-27 08:29:09 PM  

Strolpol: Krokodil is the drug that you do when you're flat broke and hitting rock bottom while suffering heroin withdrawal because you can't afford it.


Wait until they discover Sisa (NSFW). Think the worse aspects of bath salts, meth and inhaling battery acid combined.
 
2013-09-27 08:41:49 PM  

TappingTheVein: Strolpol: Krokodil is the drug that you do when you're flat broke and hitting rock bottom while suffering heroin withdrawal because you can't afford it.

Wait until they discover Sisa (NSFW). Think the worse aspects of bath salts, meth and inhaling battery acid combined.


I have to ask, considering the nick: SA counselor?
 
2013-09-27 08:45:02 PM  

fusillade762: there their theyre: How can that person even lift their ARM like that. Has to have been taken in a hospital after the wound had been cleaned.

Or it's fake.


Or it's gangrenous and therefore devoid of all nerve endings and blood, thereby rendering it...*gasp* dead!  Ignorance and stupidity should be painful.
 
2013-09-27 08:47:43 PM  
It's on the amazingly deep and widely-respected io9 website, so it's obviously true.
 
2013-09-27 08:47:46 PM  

Peki: I have to ask, considering the nick: SA counselor?


No, medical simulations developer.
 
2013-09-27 08:51:16 PM  

TappingTheVein: Peki: I have to ask, considering the nick: SA counselor?

No, medical simulations developer.


Okay, that was definitely on the list of responses I didn't expect. You got farkied as "really interesting job."
 
2013-09-27 08:59:44 PM  

ongbok: Gig103: That's one of the lamest link baiting articles ever. "Origins in America" because the opiate was invented here. The Russians are the ones that decided to mix it with gasoline, lighter fluid, and paint thinner.

This.

It are the impurities, especially iodine, that make your flesh fall off.

Strolpol: I can't see this catching on in America like it did in Russia. This isn't really a desirable drug; the only reason it has a market is because Russia has a lot of heroin junkies who don't have much money.

Krokodil is the drug that you do when you're flat broke and hitting rock bottom while suffering heroin withdrawal because you can't afford it.

Plus the ingredients to make it like they do in Russia aren't available in the U.S from what I understand.


As I understand it, the base is codiene.  And while you can't buy that over the counter in the states, it's not hard to get.

It's just that it's a lot not harder to get a ton of other oppiates, for cheaply enough that you don't want/need the gangrene causing drug. Not saying it won't see use here, because people farking inject bath salts and shiat.
 
2013-09-27 09:09:11 PM  
Wow. Whatever happened to the days of a laced joint that made you freak out for a few hours or a really potent mushroom/acid drop? Mixing in gasoline and paint? How in the hell does that even make sense?
 
2013-09-27 09:11:02 PM  

enik: It's on the amazingly deep and widely-respected io9 website, so it's obviously true.


Considering this drug has been reported about in the media for a few years now? io9 is late to the party.
 
2013-09-27 09:16:57 PM  
Holy FARK!!! Good God that is just horrific.  That has to be one intense high for someone to ignore the long-term results of its use.  While disgusted seeing those with "meth mouth,"  I will be absolutely horrified the first time I come across someone using this drug..
 
2013-09-27 09:17:10 PM  
saguisag.com

'Vonce again, Americans try to take credit for Russian inwension.'
 
2013-09-27 09:31:14 PM  

Dingleberry Dickwad: StopLurkListen: I thought this was an urban legend.

Did you look at the link you posted? Snopes has it listed as true.


Yes ... that's why I linked it.
 
2013-09-27 09:38:20 PM  
We should probably just legalize heroin and cocaine so people don't cook up drugs in their kitchen...
 
2013-09-27 09:38:28 PM  
So kiddies, the takeaway here is that safe legal drugs are always worse than what the black market will provide, given demand! And, of course, at least here in the good ol exceptional US of A, the expectation is that responsible owners will always safely use and store their guns and cars, not hurt or kill anyone just based on their inherent superiority as an autonomous citizen of the greatest country evar!, all the while never ever able to dodo likewise with their all powerful, evil, evil, bad, bad, bad and uncontrollable, "controlled substances" or DRUGGGSSSS!!!
 
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