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(Think Progress)   Woman who has been voting since the 40's can't vote anymore because Texas won't issue her an ID. Maybe she should have 'fessed up to voting for Truman   (thinkprogress.org) divider line 245
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2013-09-27 04:22:11 PM
Typical lib/dem submission....can't even read/comprehend the article they linked to.
 
2013-09-27 04:27:12 PM
My stepmother has the same problem.  The DMV won't give her an ID because her maiden name is different than the one they think she should have.  But she always votes GOP, so it's OK.
 
2013-09-27 04:32:56 PM

It's a good thing I don't meet the man who is over this because he would hear from me good and proper,



malialitman.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-09-27 04:38:34 PM

ferretman: Typical lib/dem submission....can't even read/comprehend the article they linked to.



Will Texas issue her an ID?

Not so far.

So the title is accurate.
 
2013-09-27 04:42:07 PM

Blues_X: ferretman: Typical lib/dem submission....can't even read/comprehend the article they linked to.


Will Texas issue her an ID?

Not so far.

So the title is accurate.


There is a significant difference between 'Won't' and 'May Not'.
 
2013-09-27 04:44:30 PM
Voter disenfranchisement? Check
Woman? Check
Black? Nope

This story aint going anywhere. This is pretty much gonna pass by with few people noticing
 
2013-09-27 04:52:23 PM

cman: Voter disenfranchisement? Check
Woman? Check
Black? Nope

This story aint going anywhere. This is pretty much gonna pass by with few people noticing


Umm...I'm pretty sure she's the one on the left.

thinkprogress.org
 
2013-09-27 04:58:45 PM

what_now: cman: Voter disenfranchisement? Check
Woman? Check
Black? Nope

This story aint going anywhere. This is pretty much gonna pass by with few people noticing

Umm...I'm pretty sure she's the one on the left.

[thinkprogress.org image 300x168]


She is mighty white for being black
 
2013-09-27 05:00:47 PM

cman: what_now: cman: Voter disenfranchisement? Check
Woman? Check
Black? Nope

This story aint going anywhere. This is pretty much gonna pass by with few people noticing

Umm...I'm pretty sure she's the one on the left.

[thinkprogress.org image 300x168]

She is mighty white for being black


Plus, you have to remember, black people couldn't vote in the south in the 40s or even 50s. She said she has been voting since the 40s.
 
2013-09-27 05:17:38 PM
FTA: '"It's a good thing I don't meet the man who is over this because he would hear from me good and proper," she said.'

He's probably some guy you voted for, you idiot.
 
2013-09-27 06:01:51 PM
It does indeed require proper documentation to get a Texas I.D.

Replacing a lost Social Security card isn't a helluva lot easier.
 
2013-09-27 06:04:08 PM
http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/driverlicense/identificationrequirements. htm
 
2013-09-27 06:19:28 PM

ferretman: Blues_X: ferretman: Typical lib/dem submission....can't even read/comprehend the article they linked to.


Will Texas issue her an ID?

Not so far.

So the title is accurate.

There is a significant difference between 'Won't' and 'May Not'.


And there's a difference between "voter fraud" and "bullshiat"

Oh, wait...no there isn't
 
2013-09-27 06:23:52 PM

cman: Plus, you have to remember, black people couldn't vote in the south in the 40s or even 50s.


Uh, they actually had the right to vote.  I don't think every single voting precinct across the entire south enacted the kind of Jim Crow shiat you hear about.

It's also (technically) wrong when people say that women couldn't vote until 1920.  Many states and municipalities allowed women to vote much sooner than the feds.
 
2013-09-27 06:26:35 PM

Lionel Mandrake: cman: Plus, you have to remember, black people couldn't vote in the south in the 40s or even 50s.

Uh, they actually had the right to vote.  I don't think every single voting precinct across the entire south enacted the kind of Jim Crow shiat you hear about.

It's also (technically) wrong when people say that women couldn't vote until 1920.  Many states and municipalities allowed women to vote much sooner than the feds.


Women couldn't vote in federal elections before 1920

As for your Jim Crow statement, you are correct indeed. Not every place in the south enacted those kinds of laws.
 
2013-09-27 06:33:17 PM

cman: Women couldn't vote in federal elections before 1920


...hence the phrase "sooner than the feds"
 
2013-09-27 06:35:25 PM

Lionel Mandrake: cman: Women couldn't vote in federal elections before 1920

...hence the phrase "sooner than the feds"


Well EXCUSE ME for having piss poor reading comprehension
 
2013-09-27 06:36:33 PM

cman: Lionel Mandrake: cman: Women couldn't vote in federal elections before 1920

...hence the phrase "sooner than the feds"

Well EXCUSE ME for having piss poor reading comprehension


OK...you're excused.  This ONE time.

Next time, I release the hounds
 
2013-09-27 06:54:40 PM

cman: She is mighty white for being black

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"I think it is about time we have a little talk, Claire."
 
2013-09-27 07:01:22 PM
You can try all the voter suppression you want GOP, demographics are still going to catch up with you eventually.
 
2013-09-27 07:30:13 PM
For the record, if she's 84 now, she was born in 1928 or 1929, meaning the first Presidential election she would have been old enough to vote in was 1952, so it's impossible for her to have voted for Truman.
 
2013-09-27 07:42:28 PM
So... Mission Accomplished?
 
2013-09-27 07:46:07 PM

spman: For the record, if she's 84 now, she was born in 1928 or 1929, meaning the first Presidential election she would have been old enough to vote in was 1952, so it's impossible for her to have voted for Truman.


She could have voted for him in the primary.

But reading the article, it sounds as though she's not entirely certain.
 
2013-09-27 07:48:24 PM
Clearly, this can't be the case.

She's white.
 
2013-09-27 07:57:33 PM

spman: For the record, if she's 84 now, she was born in 1928 or 1929, meaning the first Presidential election she would have been old enough to vote in was 1952, so it's impossible for her to have voted for Truman.


Uh, Dude your math stinks. 1928 plus 21 equals 1949.
 
2013-09-27 08:00:47 PM

Delay: spman: For the record, if she's 84 now, she was born in 1928 or 1929, meaning the first Presidential election she would have been old enough to vote in was 1952, so it's impossible for her to have voted for Truman.

Uh, Dude your math stinks. 1928 plus 21 equals 1949.


Uh, Dude your civic knowledge stinks. We only elect presidents every 4 years, she would have been a year too young to vote for Truman the last time he was on the ballot in 1948.
 
2013-09-27 08:00:48 PM

Delay: spman: For the record, if she's 84 now, she was born in 1928 or 1929, meaning the first Presidential election she would have been old enough to vote in was 1952, so it's impossible for her to have voted for Truman.

Uh, Dude your math stinks. 1928 plus 21 equals 1949.


Your math is good.

She was 20 in 1948. Eisenhower won in 1952.
 
2013-09-27 08:03:30 PM

ferretman: Typical lib/dem submission....can't even read/comprehend the article they linked to.


Home schooled, eh?
 
2013-09-27 08:04:19 PM

spman: Delay: spman: For the record, if she's 84 now, she was born in 1928 or 1929, meaning the first Presidential election she would have been old enough to vote in was 1952, so it's impossible for her to have voted for Truman.

Uh, Dude your math stinks. 1928 plus 21 equals 1949.

Uh, Dude your civic knowledge stinks. We only elect presidents every 4 years, she would have been a year too young to vote for Truman the last time he was on the ballot in 1948.


She says she has been voting since the 40s. Her age supports that statement. She is not certain she voted for Truman. I think the point raised here is why has she been denied her right to vote?
 
2013-09-27 08:08:09 PM
Identification at the polls doesn't prevent vote fraud.

/so ask yourself why they are putting an elderly woman through all this?
 
2013-09-27 08:11:18 PM

Blues_X: Will Texas issue her an ID?

Not so far.


If I'm not mistaken, ThinkProgress is a little behind. If it's the same woman on local Houston ABC 13, they reported a week ago on the Friday follow-up that she had been issued her ID. The ABC website says "a spokesperson for DPS assures us that Card will be issued a Texas personal ID card without running into anymore issues".

But a quick google search shows that the echo chamber has gone into full effect with tales of woe as evidence, when apparently it's no longer an issue for this lady.
 
2013-09-27 08:11:19 PM

gingerjet: Identification at the polls doesn't prevent vote fraud.

/so ask yourself why they are putting an elderly woman through all this?


Because you never go back.
 
2013-09-27 08:13:39 PM

BojanglesPaladin: Blues_X: Will Texas issue her an ID?

Not so far.

If I'm not mistaken, ThinkProgress is a little behind. If it's the same woman on local Houston ABC 13, they reported a week ago on the Friday follow-up that she had been issued her ID. The ABC website says "a spokesperson for DPS assures us that Card will be issued a Texas personal ID card without running into anymore issues".

But a quick google search shows that the echo chamber has gone into full effect with tales of woe as evidence, when apparently it's no longer an issue for this lady.


So, it's sort of like all those people that will have to pay way more for health insurance due to Fartcare.
 
2013-09-27 08:14:52 PM

gingerjet: Identification at the polls doesn't prevent vote fraud.

/so ask yourself why they are putting an elderly woman through all this?


She has the habit of voting Democratic
 
2013-09-27 08:19:53 PM
When I moved to Savannah, half our our stuff was in storage and I had practiced piss-poor document management. In order to enroll my children in school I needed their birth certificates, their original SS cards, my drivers license, my husband's driver's license, our marriage certificate and a copy of some utility bill. Since I had stored their SS cards, I got them temporary admittance with a copy of our FEDERAL TAX RETURN with their ss#s on it. In order to obtain new SS cards, I had to have proof they were still ALIVE from their pediatrician and copies of their school IDs, which I could have gotten with a fake set of kids. WTF? To say we don't need papers in this country is beyond ridiculous.
 
2013-09-27 08:21:07 PM

what_now: It's a good thing I don't meet the man who is over this because he would hear from me good and proper,

[malialitman.files.wordpress.com image 485x343]


I've seen that pic. Perry is seen here trying to divide 150 by 3.
 
2013-09-27 08:23:34 PM
Not hard:
http://texasdriverslicenses.org/id_cards.html?utm_source=Google&utm_m e dium=CPC&utm_term=new%2B+Texas%2B+ID%2Bcard&utm_campaign=Texas&gclid=C N-04tTo7LkCFcFj7AodeikA2g#.UkYgVsvD_qA
And because I'm an arsehole:
http://health.mo.gov/data/vitalrecords/applications.php
 
2013-09-27 08:24:22 PM
Good thing we're handling the nonexistent problem of voter fraud instead of a shiatty educational system
 
2013-09-27 08:28:15 PM

BojanglesPaladin: Blues_X: Will Texas issue her an ID?

Not so far.

If I'm not mistaken, ThinkProgress is a little behind. If it's the same woman on local Houston ABC 13, they reported a week ago on the Friday follow-up that she had been issued her ID. The ABC website says "a spokesperson for DPS assures us that Card will be issued a Texas personal ID card without running into anymore issues".

But a quick google search shows that the echo chamber has gone into full effect with tales of woe as evidence, when apparently it's no longer an issue for this lady.


It may or may not be an issue for this lady, but TFA ends with acknowledging that:

"For Card's part, she is still hopeful she'll get a voter ID before the election. After her case received local media attention, a DPS official told KTRK that Card "will be issued a Texas personal ID card without running into anymore issues." The question remains, though: what will happen to people whose ordeal doesn't make the news? Will DPS be as forthcoming in resolving problems for folks who can't threaten negative publicity, whose only stake is their own vote?"

Admittedly, the article is 93% about her, and only pivots to the larger issue in the last sentence. But they did at least throw that on the end, which is more than quite a lot of articles do.

/am i the only one who read to the end?
//was that wrong? should I not have done that?
 
2013-09-27 08:31:11 PM

freak7: So she didn't follow the very simple rules for obtaining an ID and it's everybody else's fault?


So you're an idiot who didn't read the article.
 
2013-09-27 08:31:24 PM

TheDumbBlonde: When I moved to Savannah, half our our stuff was in storage and I had practiced piss-poor document management. In order to enroll my children in school I needed their birth certificates, their original SS cards, my drivers license, my husband's driver's license, our marriage certificate and a copy of some utility bill. Since I had stored their SS cards, I got them temporary admittance with a copy of our FEDERAL TAX RETURN with their ss#s on it. In order to obtain new SS cards, I had to have proof they were still ALIVE from their pediatrician and copies of their school IDs, which I could have gotten with a fake set of kids. WTF? To say we don't need papers in this country is beyond ridiculous.


I just changed school districts within California because I changed between homes. May I say you got off easy. The school would not accept my utility bill because "no reason" although I have been paying utility bills here for years.
 
2013-09-27 08:32:32 PM

freak7: Another thing, why is there always this assumption that if we enact voter ID laws, it will be mostly Democrats that aren't allowed to vote? There are a lot more inbred, hillbilly, white trash republicans out there that don't have ID's than poor black folk that have no record of their birth.


So that makes it OK then.
 
2013-09-27 08:32:41 PM

freak7: Another thing, why is there always this assumption that if we enact voter ID laws, it will be mostly Democrats that aren't allowed to vote? There are a lot more inbred, hillbilly, white trash republicans out there that don't have ID's than poor black folk that have no record of their birth.


Most of them fall into the 40% who wouldn't vote anyway.
 
2013-09-27 08:33:33 PM

TheDumbBlonde: I had to have proof they were still ALIVE from their pediatrician


That's a weird requirement. One: you can just show your live kids to the school. Two: your pediatrician can't prove that you didn't swap them out for similar looking kids somewhere along the line. Your children still may be illegal immigrants even if your pediatrician recognizes they are still alive.
 
2013-09-27 08:34:12 PM

BojanglesPaladin: But a quick google search shows that the echo chamber has gone into full effect with tales of woe as evidence, when apparently it's no longer an issue for this lady.



FTFA: ThinkProgress has spoken with other Texas voters who have had difficulty obtaining a new voter ID. One such woman is Jessica Cohen, a longtime Texas voter who lost her license and personal documents in a 2011 robbery. Without such identification papers, she would have had to pay a hefty fee to officials in Missouri to obtain her birth certificate, but couldn't afford to do so after losing her job. Instead, she was resigned to the fact that she would be disenfranchised because of the new voter ID law.The question remains, though: what will happen to people whose ordeal doesn't make the news? Will DPS be as forthcoming in resolving problems for folks who can't threaten negative publicity, whose only stake is their own vote?

See, in a normal person's brain, the next step is to realize that if it is a problem for one person, chances are its also a systemic problem for others. When you invent a "solution" to a non-existent problem, that in turns creates an actual problem for voters when none existed before. That's called disenfranchisement.
 
2013-09-27 08:35:44 PM

The Bananadragon: Admittedly, the article is 93% about her, and only pivots to the larger issue in the last sentence. But they did at least throw that on the end, which is more than quite a lot of articles do.


That's because when you document the human interest angle, you want a single person's story that can be empathically related to. But in order for that story to be significant, its has to exemplify or illustrate a larger problem.
 
2013-09-27 08:37:58 PM

freak7: There are a lot more inbred, hillbilly, white trash republicans out there that don't have ID's than poor black folk that have no record of their birth.


That is not a reasons to embrace systematic voter suppression either. Its just more evidence of the way that race politics and class politics are intertwined.
 
2013-09-27 08:38:33 PM

BojanglesPaladin: it's no longer an issue for this lady


Never should have been an issue to begin with. If not for the media attention, it very well may have continued to be an issue.

Do you support voter ID laws? Did/do you support the gutting of the Voting Rights Act?
 
2013-09-27 08:39:28 PM

Uranus Is Huge!: So, it's sort of like all those people that will have to pay way more for health insurance due to Fartcare.


I assume you mean ACA? I don't see how or even what you are talking about.

Wait.. Are you trying to troll here? That's so cute.

The Bananadragon: what will happen to people whose ordeal doesn't make the news? Will DPS be as forthcoming in resolving problems for folks who can't threaten negative publicity, whose only stake is their own vote..


I expect that Anyone who doesn't have a marriage license, birth certificate, etc. will have (and frankly SHOULD have) a challenge getting State ID. So long as it does not cost anything for the ID, O am OK with the laws.

I found it frustrating that the ABC report did not report what documents she actually presented, only that she was missing her marriage license (?!), and that her daughter helped her gather "a lot". If she rolled up with a SS card, a birth certificate, and her voter registration card, that's one thing. If she showed up with a Social security check stub, a patient ID, a Sam's Club card and a utility bill, that's something else.

I recognize that there may be some few and isolated instances of people simply without ANY form of corroborating ID, but I just can't imagine that we are talking about large numbers of people who are actually incapable of getting state ID.
 
2013-09-27 08:39:51 PM

freak7: So she didn't follow the very simple rules for obtaining an ID and it's everybody else's fault?


Typical lib attitude, so yes.
 
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