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(Washington Times)   Like that pack of weenies that have been sitting in the back of your fridge Hillary 2016 is well past its sell by date   (washingtontimes.com) divider line 105
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2013-09-27 01:34:36 PM
The last time we elected a 69 year old it was Ronald Reagan and he went senile in office.
 
2013-09-27 01:47:38 PM
The conservatives keep bringing this up, out of fear.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-09-27 01:49:05 PM
Like that little pack of weenies who run the Washington Times?
 
2013-09-27 02:35:57 PM
His concern is noted
 
2013-09-27 02:54:21 PM

Blues_X: The conservatives keep bringing this up, out of fear.


they are shiatting themselves over things that are not likely to happen.  like almost everything else since January, 2009.
 
2013-09-27 02:55:46 PM
when did she announce? did it get lost during Ted Cruz' filibuster?
 
2013-09-27 03:04:22 PM
Well, if the Moonies say so.
 
2013-09-27 03:09:15 PM
I don't think the Dems would win if she got the nomination.  IF she got the nomination...she messed that one up bad in 2008.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-09-27 03:11:19 PM

OtherBrotherDarryl: I don't think the Dems would win if she got the nomination.  IF she got the nomination...she messed that one up bad in 2008.


Yes, I'm sure Santorum will take it.
 
2013-09-27 03:30:25 PM

OtherBrotherDarryl: I don't think the Dems would win if she got the nomination.  IF she got the nomination...she messed that one up bad in 2008.


Do any Farkers recall Ms. Clinton's reprehensible behaviour during the 2008 primary?
 
2013-09-27 03:35:58 PM

Dimensio: OtherBrotherDarryl: I don't think the Dems would win if she got the nomination.  IF she got the nomination...she messed that one up bad in 2008.

Do any Farkers recall Ms. Clinton's reprehensible behaviour during the 2008 primary?


I was upset when she cracked that toddler's head open and feasted on the goo inside.  Not very presidential.
 
2013-09-27 03:54:17 PM
You'd think the Democrats would realize you can only shove Clinton down a nation's throat for so long before they start to gag at the mention of it.

Just ask Lewinsky.
 
2013-09-27 03:54:43 PM

Blues_X: The conservatives keep bringing this up, out of fear.


Remember when they used the same smear against McCain?
 
2013-09-27 03:58:50 PM
Did the moonie logo change to match Wapo's?
 
2013-09-27 03:59:11 PM
She'll be a lightning rod for two more years, then a more likable Democrat will emerge to actually get the nomination.
 
2013-09-27 03:59:30 PM
Dear conservatives,
Your fear of Hillary is palpable, and it brings me great joy.
 
2013-09-27 04:00:18 PM

super_grass: Remember when they used the same smear against McCain?


Yep. Chuck Norris said he was too old.

//of course so did many liberal media outlets
 
2013-09-27 04:00:59 PM

James!: The last time we elected a 69 year old it was Ronald Reagan and he went senile in office.


Women generally age better than men, in terms of health. I'm not a big Hillary fan, but I don't think her age is a significant issue. Also, fark the Moonies.
 
2013-09-27 04:01:43 PM
I don't really want Hilary. She's far too right wing for me. I will take her over absolutely any Republican out there but I won't like it and I'll likely vote against her in a primary unless her opponents are the liberal equivalent of the GOP's 2012 clowncar.

I also think with Bill and Obama campaigning for whoever gets nominated in 2016 that the Democrats is pretty much a lock. So, again, I'd prefer it if the eventual candidate was someone who could shift the country farther left.
 
2013-09-27 04:02:05 PM
Author seems like a completely well adjusted person.  Also probably a big fan of women's rights and/or suffrage.
 
2013-09-27 04:05:13 PM

BMulligan: James!: The last time we elected a 69 year old it was Ronald Reagan and he went senile in office.

Women generally age better than men, in terms of health. I'm not a big Hillary fan, but I don't think her age is a significant issue. Also, fark the Moonies.


I don't think it is either, but the article had some shiat about "not particularly old for a man not out of sight of his prime, but a woman in public life is getting past her sell-by date at 69".

Which is bullshiat.
 
2013-09-27 04:10:00 PM

blasterz: super_grass: Remember when they used the same smear against McCain?

Yep. Chuck Norris said he was too old.

//of course so did many liberal media outlets


Honestly at least for me, and I only speak for me, his age only became an issue for me when he nominated Palin. If he had picked up someone like Pawlenty, he likely would have still lost, but the age thing wouldn't have been a big deal.
 
2013-09-27 04:10:06 PM

James!: The last time we elected a 69 year old it was Ronald Reagan and he went senile in office.


I hate to say it, but yeah. She's just too old. Same with Elizabeth Warren and Joe Biden. We need a younger candidate. It's nothing personal it's just that, after the age of 70, things can go south really suddenly, regardless of how well you've taken care of yourself before.

It's looking like it's going to be Cory Booker since the media is already trying to turn a "responds to random tweet" into "sex scandal!"...
 
2013-09-27 04:11:25 PM

Lenny_da_Hog: She'll be a lightning rod for two more years, then a more likable Democrat will emerge to actually get the nomination.


Most likely scenario. Biden?
 
2013-09-27 04:13:36 PM

super_grass: Blues_X: The conservatives keep bringing this up, out of fear.

Remember when they used the same smear against McCain?


that was mostly brought up after he picked Crazy Grizzly Mama as his running mate, if he had picked someone who wasn't insane/stupid people might not have cared.
 
2013-09-27 04:17:56 PM

OtherBrotherDarryl: I don't think the Dems would win if she got the nomination.  IF she got the nomination...she messed that one up bad in 2008.


Depends on who the Republicans nominate. Cruz or Santorum? It would be a cakewalk for most Democrats. Christie? No. But can Christie make it through the primaries?
 
2013-09-27 04:19:02 PM

Lord Dimwit: It's looking like it's going to be Cory Booker


Oh, dear, I hope not.
 
2013-09-27 04:20:42 PM
I'm not voting for Hillary '16 for the same reason I didn't vote Hillary '08, we live in a society of 300 million people, only a couple dozen of whom are blood relatives of a previous president.
 
2013-09-27 04:22:00 PM

ikanreed: I'm not voting for Hillary '16 for the same reason I didn't vote Hillary '08, we live in a society of 300 million people, only a couple dozen of whom are blood relatives of a previous president.


...Hillary isn't a blood relative of any previous president...
 
2013-09-27 04:22:46 PM

ikanreed: I'm not voting for Hillary '16 for the same reason I didn't vote Hillary '08, we live in a society of 300 million people, only a couple dozen of whom are blood relatives of a previous president.


Hillary is a blood relative of a former president?

Dude. She's not from Arkansas.
 
2013-09-27 04:26:27 PM
IF Wendy Davis is elected in Texas... and that is a huge IF at this point... but IF she can pull it off and deliver TX on the national ticket then the GOP is toast.  Also Cruz couldn't resign from Senate to run for president if a Dem is picking his interim replacement. You can dream.
 
2013-09-27 04:29:54 PM

super_grass: Blues_X: The conservatives keep bringing this up, out of fear.

Remember when they used the same smear against McCain?


Yeah, and then they'd usually follow it up with "And then we'd end up with Palin as president".
 
2013-09-27 04:30:47 PM

TheWhoppah: IF Wendy Davis is elected in Texas... and that is a huge IF at this point... but IF she can pull it off and deliver TX on the national ticket then the GOP is toast.  Also Cruz couldn't resign from Senate to run for president if a Dem is picking his interim replacement. You can dream.


If Wendy Davis won the Texas governor's race, we wouldn't have to worry about the next presidential election, since the world would shortly be coming to an end anyway.

Though, wow, would that be awesome...(Davis as governor, not the end of the world...)...
 
2013-09-27 04:30:55 PM

OtherBrotherDarryl: I don't think the Dems would win if she got the nomination.  IF she got the nomination...she messed that one up bad in 2008.


Much to my surprise, she did an excellent job as Secretary of State-much better than her replacement is currently doing.

However, her age is a large issue, IMHO.  I think she is simply too old at this point.  2008 was basically her only shot, and she probably blew that chance way back in 2002 when she voted for the Iraq war in the Senate.
 
2013-09-27 04:30:55 PM

aaronx: Lord Dimwit: It's looking like it's going to be Cory Booker

Oh, dear, I hope not.


Do you have any links to credible articles about Booker, or is that opinion piece the only one?  Pretty sure "Is rich" and "Knows/hangs out with other rich folk" isn't an actual progressive's criticism of the guy.  How he might use his wealth, sure, or how he might treat the poor, definitely a valid question.  Outcomes in the city he was mayor of sounds like a good topic too. Pareene doesn't seem to have much actual content on those things. Just saying.
 
2013-09-27 04:34:43 PM
Preservatives can do wonders.
 
2013-09-27 04:34:52 PM

Geotpf: OtherBrotherDarryl: I don't think the Dems would win if she got the nomination.  IF she got the nomination...she messed that one up bad in 2008.

Much to my surprise, she did an excellent job as Secretary of State-much better than her replacement is currently doing.

However, her age is a large issue, IMHO.  I think she is simply too old at this point.  2008 was basically her only shot, and she probably blew that chance way back in 2002 when she voted for the Iraq war in the Senate.


How about a Hillary / Sarah ticket?  That's got something for everybody!
 
2013-09-27 04:36:43 PM

odinsposse: I don't really want Hilary. She's far too right wing for me. I will take her over absolutely any Republican out there but I won't like it and I'll likely vote against her in a primary unless her opponents are the liberal equivalent of the GOP's 2012 clowncar.

I also think with Bill and Obama campaigning for whoever gets nominated in 2016 that the Democrats is pretty much a lock. So, again, I'd prefer it if the eventual candidate was someone who could shift the country farther left.


Was Obama also too right wing? Because in that election he never really committed to left win policy positions while she did.

/would love a really liberal president but it ain't happenin
//also, the first female leaders usually have to be pretty conservative, and Hillary looks great when you consider that
 
2013-09-27 04:37:00 PM

Infernalist: Lenny_da_Hog: She'll be a lightning rod for two more years, then a more likable Democrat will emerge to actually get the nomination.

Most likely scenario. Biden?


America would give Joe the bird.
 
2013-09-27 04:40:43 PM
Why is there a conservative oriented Hilary thread about her ineligibility every week? We're two years before an sane Democrat would declare, and at this point it's only giving her greater awareness than she would otherwise have if they just did something else.

Its silly. At this rate all she will have to do is make a vague statement two years out and every candidate on the right will embarrass themselves attacking her, allowing an actual candidate to appear after they have ruined their appearance to the public as being vindictive and aggressive. Even if she runs in the end, the longer they attack her the better her position becomes as aggressive campaigns do not poll well long term.

It makes no sense to me.
 
2013-09-27 04:41:00 PM
but a woman in public life is getting past her sell-by date at 69".


She might be getting past her fark-by date, and it appears that's all that matters to the GOP.  Not that Hillary was ever in a prime fark-me state, but you get the point.


How's that outreach going for the GOP?
 
2013-09-27 04:41:20 PM

Geotpf: OtherBrotherDarryl: I don't think the Dems would win if she got the nomination.  IF she got the nomination...she messed that one up bad in 2008.

Much to my surprise, she did an excellent job as Secretary of State-much better than her replacement is currently doing.

However, her age is a large issue, IMHO.  I think she is simply too old at this point.  2008 was basically her only shot, and she probably blew that chance way back in 2002 when she voted for the Iraq war in the Senate.


Uh she did a terrible job as SoS

Failed dialog w/ Russia, no resolution to Iran or NK, cluster-f*ck of Egypt all started under her watch.  You're just blaming Kerry for at worse continuing all her screw ups
 
2013-09-27 04:42:28 PM

Lord Dimwit: ikanreed: I'm not voting for Hillary '16 for the same reason I didn't vote Hillary '08, we live in a society of 300 million people, only a couple dozen of whom are blood relatives of a previous president.

...Hillary isn't a blood relative of any previous president...


Oh come on, you know what I meant.  We have so many options that don't establish a political dynasty.
 
2013-09-27 04:47:28 PM

JollyMagistrate: It makes no sense to me


The GOP base needs constant prodding and motivation by presenting them with enemies. They know they can never let that furnace go un-stoked.

In the meantime, they use those enemies to attract money through donations and book sales.
 
2013-09-27 04:50:42 PM

ikanreed: Lord Dimwit: ikanreed: I'm not voting for Hillary '16 for the same reason I didn't vote Hillary '08, we live in a society of 300 million people, only a couple dozen of whom are blood relatives of a previous president.

...Hillary isn't a blood relative of any previous president...

Oh come on, you know what I meant.  We have so many options that don't establish a political dynasty.


I know. I was just being humorously pedantic.

Well, pedantic.
 
2013-09-27 04:52:51 PM

doloresonthedottedline: Was Obama also too right wing? Because in that election he never really committed to left win policy positions while she did.

/would love a really liberal president but it ain't happenin
//also, the first female leaders usually have to be pretty conservative, and Hillary looks great when you consider that


Obama is also too right wing for me. I recall Obama coming off as the more liberal of the two in the primaries. Even though one of the big points, him being against the individual mandate, got thrown out almost immediately after he got elected.
 
2013-09-27 04:53:52 PM
Thanks for that Moonie Times.
 
2013-09-27 04:56:46 PM
How about passing the time with a game of solitaire?
 
2013-09-27 04:59:08 PM
Wishful Thinking is cute.

Considering the likely slate of Republiderp potential candidates, the Dems could put up GEORGE Clinton and still win 300 electoral votes.

Seriously, the House and Senate Republicans can't even get on the same page as each other over their core issues.  How in the world are they going to prop up a united front?  It wouldn't even surprise me to see 2 Republican candidates splitting the vote. One for the RNC and one for the Tea Party.

If Hillary is the nominee, she will win.  If that happens we can look forward to at least another 4 more years of the comedy gold that is Tea Party butthurt.
Just watching Glenn Beck cry and Karl Rove have another reality-meltdown on election night would be worth all the campaign BS.

Orly Taitz launching her "Women Can't Be President" lawsuits will be the icing on the cake.
 
2013-09-27 05:01:01 PM
I am a liberal. I have a great deal of respect for Hillary Clinton. I have also come to like her over the last 10 years. I think she was a good Sec of State. Based on her resume, I think she is one of the most qualified people in this country to be president. I will vote for her if she wins the primary. In my gut, though... I do worry about her being too old. I will obviously still vote for over anyone in the GOP clown show, but it is still a valid concern. Just sayin.
 
2013-09-27 05:03:37 PM

Loucifer: I am a liberal. I have a great deal of respect for Hillary Clinton. I have also come to like her over the last 10 years. I think she was a good Sec of State. Based on her resume, I think she is one of the most qualified people in this country to be president. I will vote for her if she wins the primary. In my gut, though... I do worry about her being too old. I will obviously still vote for over anyone in the GOP clown show, but it is still a valid concern. Just sayin.


Meh. Could be 69 is the new 45.
 
2013-09-27 05:05:33 PM

ShadowKamui: Geotpf: OtherBrotherDarryl: I don't think the Dems would win if she got the nomination.  IF she got the nomination...she messed that one up bad in 2008.

Much to my surprise, she did an excellent job as Secretary of State-much better than her replacement is currently doing.

However, her age is a large issue, IMHO.  I think she is simply too old at this point.  2008 was basically her only shot, and she probably blew that chance way back in 2002 when she voted for the Iraq war in the Senate.

Uh she did a terrible job as SoS

Failed dialog w/ Russia, no resolution to Iran or NK, cluster-f*ck of Egypt all started under her watch.  You're just blaming Kerry for at worse continuing all her screw ups


So if Romney had been elected, you think that Joe The Plumber would have accomplished more as Secretary of State ?
 
2013-09-27 05:09:47 PM
I look forward to 8 years of Billary humor on FARK.       Lord o' lord will the snark fly when they are back.
 
2013-09-27 05:11:12 PM

ShadowKamui: Failed dialog w/ Russia, no resolution to Iran or NK, cluster-f*ck of Egypt all started under her watch. You're just blaming Kerry for at worse continuing all her screw ups


We haven't had a resolution with Iran or NK prior to Hillary Clinton either.  And you're going to blame the Secretary of State for Egypt?  LOLWUT?
 
2013-09-27 05:15:52 PM

Huggermugger: ShadowKamui: Geotpf: OtherBrotherDarryl: I don't think the Dems would win if she got the nomination.  IF she got the nomination...she messed that one up bad in 2008.

Much to my surprise, she did an excellent job as Secretary of State-much better than her replacement is currently doing.

However, her age is a large issue, IMHO.  I think she is simply too old at this point.  2008 was basically her only shot, and she probably blew that chance way back in 2002 when she voted for the Iraq war in the Senate.

Uh she did a terrible job as SoS

Failed dialog w/ Russia, no resolution to Iran or NK, cluster-f*ck of Egypt all started under her watch.  You're just blaming Kerry for at worse continuing all her screw ups

So if Romney had been elected, you think that Joe The Plumber would have accomplished more as Secretary of State ?


Well considering Kerry isn't doing so great fixing all Hillary's screw-ups, I don't think whatever incompetent idiot Romeny would have used done any better.
 
2013-09-27 05:16:58 PM

SisterMaryElephant: She might be getting past her fark-by date, and it appears that's all that matters to the GOP. Not that Hillary was ever in a prime fark-me state, but you get the point.


True, but I'd still fark her daughter just to say I did.

ShadowKamui: Uh she did a terrible job as SoS


Whatever you have to tell yourself.  She facilitated the freedom of Chen Guancheng without ruining ties between the U.S. and CHina, she was a main force behind the meamningful reforms now underway in Burma, including the release of Aung San Suu Kyi, she brokered a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas in 2012, She made finding business opportunities overseas for U.S. companies a top priority, and has been the most active and widely-travelled SoS in U.S. history.  Purely from a foreign policy standpoint, there's no one on the Republican side that can even hold a candle to her.
 
2013-09-27 05:22:47 PM
When in search of a credible source of political facts I always turn to the absolutely bat-shiat crazy publishers of the Washington Times.
 
2013-09-27 05:23:01 PM

Highroller48: SisterMaryElephant: She might be getting past her fark-by date, and it appears that's all that matters to the GOP. Not that Hillary was ever in a prime fark-me state, but you get the point.

True, but I'd still fark her daughter just to say I did.

ShadowKamui: Uh she did a terrible job as SoS

Whatever you have to tell yourself.  She facilitated the freedom of Chen Guancheng without ruining ties between the U.S. and CHina, she was a main force behind the meamningful reforms now underway in Burma, including the release of Aung San Suu Kyi, she brokered a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas in 2012, She made finding business opportunities overseas for U.S. companies a top priority, and has been the most active and widely-travelled SoS in U.S. history.  Purely from a foreign policy standpoint, there's no one on the Republican side that can even hold a candle to her.


Don't you get it? She's a failure because she didn't resolve two of the thorniest foreign policy issues of the last half-century.
 
2013-09-27 05:24:03 PM

BMulligan: James!: The last time we elected a 69 year old it was Ronald Reagan and he went senile in office.

Women generally age better than men, in terms of health. I'm not a big Hillary fan, but I don't think her age is a significant issue. Also, fark the Moonies.


Men age like wine.  Women age like milk.
 
2013-09-27 05:32:23 PM

BMulligan: James!: The last time we elected a 69 year old it was Ronald Reagan and he went senile in office.

Women generally age better than men, in terms of health. I'm not a big Hillary fan, but I don't think her age is a significant issue. Also, fark the Moonies.


Age is actually a benefit to women. People don't want a menopausal, or worse, pre-menopausal woman in office. And older women are viewed as matronly and dignified while older men are viewed as doddering and out of touch. The one caveat is that their aging must be graceful. If they fight age like Nancy Pelosi, and end up looking like clowns, it doesn't work.
 
2013-09-27 05:32:45 PM

Trey Le Parc: BMulligan: James!: The last time we elected a 69 year old it was Ronald Reagan and he went senile in office.

Women generally age better than men, in terms of health. I'm not a big Hillary fan, but I don't think her age is a significant issue. Also, fark the Moonies.

Men age like wine.  Women age like milk.


You're saying that vinegar is preferable to aged cheese?
 
2013-09-27 05:33:46 PM

Highroller48: Wishful Thinking is cute.

Considering the likely slate of Republiderp potential candidates, the Dems could put up GEORGE Clinton and still win 300 electoral votes.

Seriously, the House and Senate Republicans can't even get on the same page as each other over their core issues.  How in the world are they going to prop up a united front?  It wouldn't even surprise me to see 2 Republican candidates splitting the vote. One for the RNC and one for the Tea Party.

If Hillary is the nominee, she will win.  If that happens we can look forward to at least another 4 more years of the comedy gold that is Tea Party butthurt.
Just watching Glenn Beck cry and Karl Rove have another reality-meltdown on election night would be worth all the campaign BS.

Orly Taitz launching her "Women Can't Be President" lawsuits will be the icing on the cake.


I would absolutely vote for George Clinton.
 
2013-09-27 05:39:10 PM
Whoever the Democrats do nominate, it needs to be a minority again. It brings out the best in the GOP, in front of everyone.
 
2013-09-27 05:39:35 PM

Blues_X: The conservatives keep bringing this up, out of fear.


I'm afraid of a Hillary presidency. She could even win, depending on who we nominate. That doesn't make her a good candidate.
 
2013-09-27 05:41:43 PM
And speaking of weenies, how's the Washington Times doing these days?
 
2013-09-27 05:45:12 PM
I think the better analogy is this:

Hillary is the Hulk Hogan of the Democratic Party. As long as she's seen as a viable contender, there will be no standout Dem that can be developed as a viable candidate, and the party will stagnate underneath her ego and her cronies. And when she's finally kicked to the curb, there will be no one substantial to take her place.

So yeah, you Dems go on and point and laugh at the GOP and forget about the swinging party pendulum that's been going on since time immemorial.
 
2013-09-27 05:49:54 PM

rjakobi: I think the better analogy is this:

Hillary is the Hulk Hogan of the Democratic Party. As long as she's seen as a viable contender, there will be no standout Dem that can be developed as a viable candidate, and the party will stagnate underneath her ego and her cronies. And when she's finally kicked to the curb, there will be no one substantial to take her place.

So yeah, you Dems go on and point and laugh at the GOP and forget about the swinging party pendulum that's been going on since time immemorial.


Obviously since she won in 2008.  Wait what?
 
2013-09-27 05:51:44 PM

rjakobi: I think the better analogy is this:

Hillary is the Hulk Hogan of the Democratic Party. As long as she's seen as a viable contender, there will be no standout Dem that can be developed as a viable candidate, and the party will stagnate underneath her ego and her cronies. And when she's finally kicked to the curb, there will be no one substantial to take her place.

So yeah, you Dems go on and point and laugh at the GOP and forget about the swinging party pendulum that's been going on since time immemorial.


So you're asserting that the Democratic party is the WCW. Welp.
 
2013-09-27 05:54:35 PM

ManateeGag: Blues_X: The conservatives keep bringing this up, out of fear.

they are shiatting themselves over things that are not likely to happen.  like almost everything else since January, 2009.


Well communism did ensnare America, and abortion was extended to the 24th trimester. I'd say the fear of a black planet was justified. But you all wouldn't listen, would you?
 
2013-09-27 06:00:59 PM

JollyMagistrate: Why is there a conservative oriented Hilary thread about her ineligibility every week? We're two years before an sane Democrat would declare, and at this point it's only giving her greater awareness than she would otherwise have if they just did something else.

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The GOP has a ton of opposition research on Hillary Clinton that is just gathering dust, and they really want to use it.  Hillary was going to be the nominee by hook or by crook in every election from 2000 onwards because she's a power-mad lesbian or whatever.
 
2013-09-27 06:03:43 PM

NobleHam: BMulligan: James!: The last time we elected a 69 year old it was Ronald Reagan and he went senile in office.

Women generally age better than men, in terms of health. I'm not a big Hillary fan, but I don't think her age is a significant issue. Also, fark the Moonies.

Age is actually a benefit to women. People don't want a menopausal, or worse, pre-menopausal woman in office. And older women are viewed as matronly and dignified while older men are viewed as doddering and out of touch. The one caveat is that their aging must be graceful. If they fight age like Nancy Pelosi, and end up looking like clowns, it doesn't work.


All you can just shut the fark up about how we don't need feminism. This kind of shiat is ridiculous.

Try and keep up with the research, fellas. Women in leadership positions and a gender balance keeps politicians and corporations from driving themselves off cliffs. So says Harvard Business Review, in case you think I'm quoting Jezebel.

Assholes.
 
2013-09-27 06:16:50 PM

Apik0r0s: Whoever the Democrats do nominate, it needs to be a minority again. It brings out the best in the GOP, in front of everyone.


Nominate a liberal Jew. That would make the evangelicals' heads explode.
 
2013-09-27 06:27:17 PM

Cletus C.: Infernalist: Lenny_da_Hog: She'll be a lightning rod for two more years, then a more likable Democrat will emerge to actually get the nomination.

Most likely scenario. Biden?

America would give Joe the bird.


Not after they see the cross-eyed, inbred hillbilly the Party of No runs.
That's the thing, you see - the Democrats only have to find some reasonable human being with opposable thumbs, and the Republicans will do their work for them by running some complete and unredeemable piece of shiat. The American people are usually pretty good about selecting the lesser of two evils - Reagan being the only exception I can think of.
Unless the Grey Suits take the party back from the loons, they'll run another drooling loser like Romney, or a nutbag like Palin - it's all the party can manage in it's current state. You can't gerrymander the Senate or the White House - you have to really win them fair and square, and the GOP can't win a fair election any more.
 
2013-09-27 06:29:41 PM

Lenny_da_Hog: Apik0r0s: Whoever the Democrats do nominate, it needs to be a minority again. It brings out the best in the GOP, in front of everyone.

Nominate a liberal Jew. That would make the evangelicals' heads explode.


What the hell is wrong with Feingold anyway? I liked him.
 
2013-09-27 06:39:35 PM

Lenny_da_Hog: Apik0r0s: Whoever the Democrats do nominate, it needs to be a minority again. It brings out the best in the GOP, in front of everyone.

Nominate a liberal Jew. That would make the evangelicals' heads explode.


And out them for who they really are. They are all pro-Israel, but fark those Jews, that's for sure.
 
2013-09-27 06:45:20 PM
Women live longer than men. Hillary doesn't need to trot out her 100 year-old mama to show that she has the longevity gene; unlike some people :-/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roberta_McCain
 
2013-09-27 06:45:32 PM

jso2897: Cletus C.: Infernalist: Lenny_da_Hog: She'll be a lightning rod for two more years, then a more likable Democrat will emerge to actually get the nomination.

Most likely scenario. Biden?

America would give Joe the bird.

Not after they see the cross-eyed, inbred hillbilly the Party of No runs.
That's the thing, you see - the Democrats only have to find some reasonable human being with opposable thumbs, and the Republicans will do their work for them by running some complete and unredeemable piece of shiat. The American people are usually pretty good about selecting the lesser of two evils - Reagan being the only exception I can think of.
Unless the Grey Suits take the party back from the loons, they'll run another drooling loser like Romney, or a nutbag like Palin - it's all the party can manage in it's current state. You can't gerrymander the Senate or the White House - you have to really win them fair and square, and the GOP can't win a fair election any more.


Tsk, tsk. You need to step out of the comfy confines of that thought process and look at history. Power swings back and forth. Democrats were supposedly down for the count not all that long ago. They couldn't even beat W after he'd started an unnecessary war. After Watergate, many wondered if the Republicans would ever recover. The American electorate is a fickle thing. They chase the latest shiny ball. It could be Christie this time. Nominating Old Joe would probably be just the thing to give the GOP the presidency again.
 
2013-09-27 06:45:39 PM

PC LOAD LETTER: Lenny_da_Hog: Apik0r0s: Whoever the Democrats do nominate, it needs to be a minority again. It brings out the best in the GOP, in front of everyone.

Nominate a liberal Jew. That would make the evangelicals' heads explode.

And out them for who they really are. They are all pro-Israel, but fark those Jews, that's for sure.


It would be funny as hell to watch the media try and spin around the clusterfark that would ensue.
 
2013-09-27 06:58:32 PM
Jiminy Christmas, what a hatchet job. And the popups!

That's what I get for clicking a WaTimes link, I guess...
 
2013-09-27 06:59:19 PM

PC LOAD LETTER: Lenny_da_Hog: Apik0r0s: Whoever the Democrats do nominate, it needs to be a minority again. It brings out the best in the GOP, in front of everyone.

Nominate a liberal Jew. That would make the evangelicals' heads explode.

And out them for who they really are. They are all pro-Israel, but fark those Jews, that's for sure.



Al Franken would make their heads explode.
 
2013-09-27 07:05:17 PM

Cletus C.: jso2897: Cletus C.: Infernalist: Lenny_da_Hog: She'll be a lightning rod for two more years, then a more likable Democrat will emerge to actually get the nomination.

Most likely scenario. Biden?

America would give Joe the bird.

Not after they see the cross-eyed, inbred hillbilly the Party of No runs.
That's the thing, you see - the Democrats only have to find some reasonable human being with opposable thumbs, and the Republicans will do their work for them by running some complete and unredeemable piece of shiat. The American people are usually pretty good about selecting the lesser of two evils - Reagan being the only exception I can think of.
Unless the Grey Suits take the party back from the loons, they'll run another drooling loser like Romney, or a nutbag like Palin - it's all the party can manage in it's current state. You can't gerrymander the Senate or the White House - you have to really win them fair and square, and the GOP can't win a fair election any more.

Tsk, tsk. You need to step out of the comfy confines of that thought process and look at history. Power swings back and forth. Democrats were supposedly down for the count not all that long ago. They couldn't even beat W after he'd started an unnecessary war. After Watergate, many wondered if the Republicans would ever recover. The American electorate is a fickle thing. They chase the latest shiny ball. It could be Christie this time. Nominating Old Joe would probably be just the thing to give the GOP the presidency again.


with the current unpopularity of the republican party as a whole, and specially in regards to the electoral map, the Republicans will have to work magic to recover in time for 2016.

Threatening to shutting down the government or not raising the debt ceiling isn't going to win over anyone not already deeply in their corner.
 
2013-09-27 07:06:02 PM
I NEED FREAKING CHEESECAKE
JUST WHEN I MANAGED TO LOOSE 5 POUNDS FROM MY BUTT

I AM SICK OF THIS STUPID MEN WORLD,,DNC,,AND OBAMAS FEVER
 
2013-09-27 07:21:25 PM

TheWhoppah: PC LOAD LETTER: Lenny_da_Hog: Apik0r0s: Whoever the Democrats do nominate, it needs to be a minority again. It brings out the best in the GOP, in front of everyone.

Nominate a liberal Jew. That would make the evangelicals' heads explode.

And out them for who they really are. They are all pro-Israel, but fark those Jews, that's for sure.


Al Franken would make their heads explode.


I'll only vote for Al Franken if he agrees to spoof himself on SNL instead of having someone else do it.
 
2013-09-27 07:25:18 PM
"Hairdresser"
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2013-09-27 07:29:45 PM

rjakobi: I think the better analogy is this:

Hillary is the Hulk Hogan of the Democratic Party. As long as she's seen as a viable contender, there will be no standout Dem that can be developed as a viable candidate, and the party will stagnate underneath her ego and her cronies. And when she's finally kicked to the curb, there will be no one substantial to take her place.

So yeah, you Dems go on and point and laugh at the GOP and forget about the swinging party pendulum that's been going on since time immemorial.


Considering the existence of President Barack Obama, I have to ask if you're retarded or simply making an exception for him because otherwise your analogy makes no sense.
 
2013-09-27 07:32:10 PM

Cletus C.: jso2897: Cletus C.: Infernalist: Lenny_da_Hog: She'll be a lightning rod for two more years, then a more likable Democrat will emerge to actually get the nomination.

Most likely scenario. Biden?

America would give Joe the bird.

Not after they see the cross-eyed, inbred hillbilly the Party of No runs.
That's the thing, you see - the Democrats only have to find some reasonable human being with opposable thumbs, and the Republicans will do their work for them by running some complete and unredeemable piece of shiat. The American people are usually pretty good about selecting the lesser of two evils - Reagan being the only exception I can think of.
Unless the Grey Suits take the party back from the loons, they'll run another drooling loser like Romney, or a nutbag like Palin - it's all the party can manage in it's current state. You can't gerrymander the Senate or the White House - you have to really win them fair and square, and the GOP can't win a fair election any more.

Tsk, tsk. You need to step out of the comfy confines of that thought process and look at history. Power swings back and forth. Democrats were supposedly down for the count not all that long ago. They couldn't even beat W after he'd started an unnecessary war. After Watergate, many wondered if the Republicans would ever recover. The American electorate is a fickle thing. They chase the latest shiny ball. It could be Christie this time. Nominating Old Joe would probably be just the thing to give the GOP the presidency again.


You're hoping and praying for the maintenance of the status quo in the face of a political scene that's like nothing that's come before it since the 1930s.  Your faith in the status quo is doubly uncertain considering how the 2010 cycle and the 2012 cycles have bucked so many expected trends.
 
2013-09-27 07:40:38 PM
I'd like to see her run just to watch the teabaggers heads asplode.
 
2013-09-27 07:45:24 PM
What about Weenie Tots?

images2.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-09-27 08:02:56 PM
M-O-O-N, that spells 'Hillary'.
 
2013-09-27 08:44:27 PM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: M-O-O-N, that spells 'Hillary'.


Right to the moon... one of these days.
 
2013-09-27 09:33:24 PM

DarwiOdrade: Dear conservatives,
Your fear of Hillary is palpable, and it brings me great joy.

$this->

 
2013-09-27 10:03:30 PM
static.uloz.to
 
2013-09-27 10:33:52 PM

TheWhoppah: IF Wendy Davis is elected in Texas... and that is a huge IF at this point... but IF she can pull it off and deliver TX on the national ticket then the GOP is toast.  Also Cruz couldn't resign from Senate to run for president if a Dem is picking his interim replacement. You can dream.


When do Senators resign to run for president?
Bob Dole and who else?
 
2013-09-27 10:42:09 PM

SisterMaryElephant: but a woman in public life is getting past her sell-by date at 69".


She might be getting past her fark-by date, and it appears that's all that matters to the GOP.  Not that Hillary was ever in a prime fark-me state, but you get the point.


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She looks pretty hot to me.
 
m00
2013-09-28 12:00:26 AM

James!: The last time we elected a 69 year old it was Ronald Reagan and he went senile in office.


Actually in defense of Hillary, women live longer than men and seem to maintain a sharper mind for longer too. A good argument for Hillary would be "all of the experience, none of the senility."

Hell, GWB seemed to be going senile in his 50s.

But in all seriousness, Hillary is probably the farthest right person in the Democratic party. So she's not an extremist. Her only motive to govern is legacy (whereas Obama is probably thinking about his post-presidential career). She's sharp minded, and a very good diplomat.

Yeah the talking heads on the right will of course skewer her, but she probably won't engender any sort of frothy rage in most Republican voters.

I think she's a terrible person, but I also think she'd govern reasonably well. Better than Obama certainly, and better than anyone Republicans have put up in recent years. I say this as a Libertarian... the Republican candidates have been so awful that yes Hillary would be better in my opinion. I'm past the point of finding politicians that are remotely close to my ideals, and really at this point I just want someone with a brain who has thought-out positions and that avoid the things that are so awful they transcend party lines. And who I feel actually cares about something other than their own career/wealth.

So obviously I don't agree with her on MANY (most?) positions, but I think she definitely would have DESTROYED the banks and wall street that took bailout money and turned around and paid themselves bonuses. And I think we'd have stronger civil liberties than under Obama and Bush. She would have put her boot so far up the NSA's ass when the news broke about the spying. Think about that. Obama admitted he heard the news about the extent of NSA spying from the newspaper. No heads rolled. Whether you agree with the bailouts or not, the banks completely defrauded the American people. No heads rolled. Eric Holder went on camera and said there were like 42 cases of serious fraud that were prosecutable. No bankers have gone to jail.

And don't get me wrong. Romney would have been an unmitigated disaster. McCain would have been a moderate disaster. Bush was a disaster. Obama is a disaster. If you are a small-government person and intellectually honest, you'll realize Republicans are worse on this issue than Democrats. Being small-government doesn't mean cutting food stamps that are 1% of your budget while overlooking the fact the other 99% of the budget is handouts to the wealthy. You can be small-government and keep food stamps, and welfare, and school lunch programs. Because these things are pennies. Pennies!

So yeah, I can live with Hillary. Unless Republicans put up someone who understands that small-government means cutting subsidies for the wealthy BEFORE you cut subsidies for the poor. But that's not going to happen.
 
2013-09-28 12:18:49 AM
If you supported Bush even at the end, if you genuinely believe that Obamacare establishes death panels, if you post on Facebook about Agenda 21, you're not going to vote for the Democrat. Ever. Ever.  Do the electoral math and remove these people from the target set. Just forget them. They don't matter. They will never support Democrats.
 
2013-09-28 12:30:15 AM
Why are right wingers so afraid of a strong conservative woman?
 
m00
2013-09-28 12:43:56 AM

Jairzinho: Why are right wingers so afraid of a strong conservative woman?


People still believe the media.
 
2013-09-28 01:36:09 AM

odinsposse: doloresonthedottedline: Was Obama also too right wing? Because in that election he never really committed to left win policy positions while she did.

/would love a really liberal president but it ain't happenin
//also, the first female leaders usually have to be pretty conservative, and Hillary looks great when you consider that

Obama is also too right wing for me. I recall Obama coming off as the more liberal of the two in the primaries. Even though one of the big points, him being against the individual mandate, got thrown out almost immediately after he got elected.




I wasn't at fan because he never committed. He'd give a speech and everyone was convinced he was for exactly what they wanted, when those things were opposites.

That said I like him. I think Hillary would've been as good because she's more used to dealing with these dicks, but I do like Obama. My aunt is against him for stupid reasons--just doesn't like him, he hates coal, Obamacare is terrible, etc etc. And my uncle watches Fox News. The aunt was a democrat but my very union grandfather asked my mother if she was a "republican, too," because my aunt hates Obama so much. Sigh.
 
2013-09-28 02:38:38 AM
I don't want Hills to run.  I have had enough of the Clinton Administration to last until I die,   I will oppose her in the primary and send money to those running against her,

That said, if she is the Democratic nominee, I will vote for her.
 
2013-09-28 02:59:05 AM
Even if she is "out of date" she's still better than anything the GOP has to offer, with our without a penis.  I won't vote for her, but I'm in a red state that hasn't voted against the GOP candidate since 1964 so it doesn't matter anyway.
 
2013-09-28 05:49:47 AM
For those who think she wasn't a good looking lady when she was young, something's wrong with you.

http://www.clintonlibrary.gov/assets/images/bios/Hillary.png">http:/ /www.clintonlibrary.gov/assets/images/bios/Hillary.png
 
2013-09-28 06:42:51 AM
Sniper fire.
 
2013-09-28 01:08:41 PM
i1.cpcache.com
 
2013-09-28 02:12:26 PM
 
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