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(Washington Times)   Like that pack of weenies that have been sitting in the back of your fridge Hillary 2016 is well past its sell by date   (washingtontimes.com) divider line 105
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2013-09-27 01:34:36 PM
The last time we elected a 69 year old it was Ronald Reagan and he went senile in office.
 
2013-09-27 01:47:38 PM
The conservatives keep bringing this up, out of fear.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-09-27 01:49:05 PM
Like that little pack of weenies who run the Washington Times?
 
2013-09-27 02:35:57 PM
His concern is noted
 
2013-09-27 02:54:21 PM

Blues_X: The conservatives keep bringing this up, out of fear.


they are shiatting themselves over things that are not likely to happen.  like almost everything else since January, 2009.
 
2013-09-27 02:55:46 PM
when did she announce? did it get lost during Ted Cruz' filibuster?
 
2013-09-27 03:04:22 PM
Well, if the Moonies say so.
 
2013-09-27 03:09:15 PM
I don't think the Dems would win if she got the nomination.  IF she got the nomination...she messed that one up bad in 2008.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-09-27 03:11:19 PM

OtherBrotherDarryl: I don't think the Dems would win if she got the nomination.  IF she got the nomination...she messed that one up bad in 2008.


Yes, I'm sure Santorum will take it.
 
2013-09-27 03:30:25 PM

OtherBrotherDarryl: I don't think the Dems would win if she got the nomination.  IF she got the nomination...she messed that one up bad in 2008.


Do any Farkers recall Ms. Clinton's reprehensible behaviour during the 2008 primary?
 
2013-09-27 03:35:58 PM

Dimensio: OtherBrotherDarryl: I don't think the Dems would win if she got the nomination.  IF she got the nomination...she messed that one up bad in 2008.

Do any Farkers recall Ms. Clinton's reprehensible behaviour during the 2008 primary?


I was upset when she cracked that toddler's head open and feasted on the goo inside.  Not very presidential.
 
2013-09-27 03:54:17 PM
You'd think the Democrats would realize you can only shove Clinton down a nation's throat for so long before they start to gag at the mention of it.

Just ask Lewinsky.
 
2013-09-27 03:54:43 PM

Blues_X: The conservatives keep bringing this up, out of fear.


Remember when they used the same smear against McCain?
 
2013-09-27 03:58:50 PM
Did the moonie logo change to match Wapo's?
 
2013-09-27 03:59:11 PM
She'll be a lightning rod for two more years, then a more likable Democrat will emerge to actually get the nomination.
 
2013-09-27 03:59:30 PM
Dear conservatives,
Your fear of Hillary is palpable, and it brings me great joy.
 
2013-09-27 04:00:18 PM

super_grass: Remember when they used the same smear against McCain?


Yep. Chuck Norris said he was too old.

//of course so did many liberal media outlets
 
2013-09-27 04:00:59 PM

James!: The last time we elected a 69 year old it was Ronald Reagan and he went senile in office.


Women generally age better than men, in terms of health. I'm not a big Hillary fan, but I don't think her age is a significant issue. Also, fark the Moonies.
 
2013-09-27 04:01:43 PM
I don't really want Hilary. She's far too right wing for me. I will take her over absolutely any Republican out there but I won't like it and I'll likely vote against her in a primary unless her opponents are the liberal equivalent of the GOP's 2012 clowncar.

I also think with Bill and Obama campaigning for whoever gets nominated in 2016 that the Democrats is pretty much a lock. So, again, I'd prefer it if the eventual candidate was someone who could shift the country farther left.
 
2013-09-27 04:02:05 PM
Author seems like a completely well adjusted person.  Also probably a big fan of women's rights and/or suffrage.
 
2013-09-27 04:05:13 PM

BMulligan: James!: The last time we elected a 69 year old it was Ronald Reagan and he went senile in office.

Women generally age better than men, in terms of health. I'm not a big Hillary fan, but I don't think her age is a significant issue. Also, fark the Moonies.


I don't think it is either, but the article had some shiat about "not particularly old for a man not out of sight of his prime, but a woman in public life is getting past her sell-by date at 69".

Which is bullshiat.
 
2013-09-27 04:10:00 PM

blasterz: super_grass: Remember when they used the same smear against McCain?

Yep. Chuck Norris said he was too old.

//of course so did many liberal media outlets


Honestly at least for me, and I only speak for me, his age only became an issue for me when he nominated Palin. If he had picked up someone like Pawlenty, he likely would have still lost, but the age thing wouldn't have been a big deal.
 
2013-09-27 04:10:06 PM

James!: The last time we elected a 69 year old it was Ronald Reagan and he went senile in office.


I hate to say it, but yeah. She's just too old. Same with Elizabeth Warren and Joe Biden. We need a younger candidate. It's nothing personal it's just that, after the age of 70, things can go south really suddenly, regardless of how well you've taken care of yourself before.

It's looking like it's going to be Cory Booker since the media is already trying to turn a "responds to random tweet" into "sex scandal!"...
 
2013-09-27 04:11:25 PM

Lenny_da_Hog: She'll be a lightning rod for two more years, then a more likable Democrat will emerge to actually get the nomination.


Most likely scenario. Biden?
 
2013-09-27 04:13:36 PM

super_grass: Blues_X: The conservatives keep bringing this up, out of fear.

Remember when they used the same smear against McCain?


that was mostly brought up after he picked Crazy Grizzly Mama as his running mate, if he had picked someone who wasn't insane/stupid people might not have cared.
 
2013-09-27 04:17:56 PM

OtherBrotherDarryl: I don't think the Dems would win if she got the nomination.  IF she got the nomination...she messed that one up bad in 2008.


Depends on who the Republicans nominate. Cruz or Santorum? It would be a cakewalk for most Democrats. Christie? No. But can Christie make it through the primaries?
 
2013-09-27 04:19:02 PM

Lord Dimwit: It's looking like it's going to be Cory Booker


Oh, dear, I hope not.
 
2013-09-27 04:20:42 PM
I'm not voting for Hillary '16 for the same reason I didn't vote Hillary '08, we live in a society of 300 million people, only a couple dozen of whom are blood relatives of a previous president.
 
2013-09-27 04:22:00 PM

ikanreed: I'm not voting for Hillary '16 for the same reason I didn't vote Hillary '08, we live in a society of 300 million people, only a couple dozen of whom are blood relatives of a previous president.


...Hillary isn't a blood relative of any previous president...
 
2013-09-27 04:22:46 PM

ikanreed: I'm not voting for Hillary '16 for the same reason I didn't vote Hillary '08, we live in a society of 300 million people, only a couple dozen of whom are blood relatives of a previous president.


Hillary is a blood relative of a former president?

Dude. She's not from Arkansas.
 
2013-09-27 04:26:27 PM
IF Wendy Davis is elected in Texas... and that is a huge IF at this point... but IF she can pull it off and deliver TX on the national ticket then the GOP is toast.  Also Cruz couldn't resign from Senate to run for president if a Dem is picking his interim replacement. You can dream.
 
2013-09-27 04:29:54 PM

super_grass: Blues_X: The conservatives keep bringing this up, out of fear.

Remember when they used the same smear against McCain?


Yeah, and then they'd usually follow it up with "And then we'd end up with Palin as president".
 
2013-09-27 04:30:47 PM

TheWhoppah: IF Wendy Davis is elected in Texas... and that is a huge IF at this point... but IF she can pull it off and deliver TX on the national ticket then the GOP is toast.  Also Cruz couldn't resign from Senate to run for president if a Dem is picking his interim replacement. You can dream.


If Wendy Davis won the Texas governor's race, we wouldn't have to worry about the next presidential election, since the world would shortly be coming to an end anyway.

Though, wow, would that be awesome...(Davis as governor, not the end of the world...)...
 
2013-09-27 04:30:55 PM

OtherBrotherDarryl: I don't think the Dems would win if she got the nomination.  IF she got the nomination...she messed that one up bad in 2008.


Much to my surprise, she did an excellent job as Secretary of State-much better than her replacement is currently doing.

However, her age is a large issue, IMHO.  I think she is simply too old at this point.  2008 was basically her only shot, and she probably blew that chance way back in 2002 when she voted for the Iraq war in the Senate.
 
2013-09-27 04:30:55 PM

aaronx: Lord Dimwit: It's looking like it's going to be Cory Booker

Oh, dear, I hope not.


Do you have any links to credible articles about Booker, or is that opinion piece the only one?  Pretty sure "Is rich" and "Knows/hangs out with other rich folk" isn't an actual progressive's criticism of the guy.  How he might use his wealth, sure, or how he might treat the poor, definitely a valid question.  Outcomes in the city he was mayor of sounds like a good topic too. Pareene doesn't seem to have much actual content on those things. Just saying.
 
2013-09-27 04:34:43 PM
Preservatives can do wonders.
 
2013-09-27 04:34:52 PM

Geotpf: OtherBrotherDarryl: I don't think the Dems would win if she got the nomination.  IF she got the nomination...she messed that one up bad in 2008.

Much to my surprise, she did an excellent job as Secretary of State-much better than her replacement is currently doing.

However, her age is a large issue, IMHO.  I think she is simply too old at this point.  2008 was basically her only shot, and she probably blew that chance way back in 2002 when she voted for the Iraq war in the Senate.


How about a Hillary / Sarah ticket?  That's got something for everybody!
 
2013-09-27 04:36:43 PM

odinsposse: I don't really want Hilary. She's far too right wing for me. I will take her over absolutely any Republican out there but I won't like it and I'll likely vote against her in a primary unless her opponents are the liberal equivalent of the GOP's 2012 clowncar.

I also think with Bill and Obama campaigning for whoever gets nominated in 2016 that the Democrats is pretty much a lock. So, again, I'd prefer it if the eventual candidate was someone who could shift the country farther left.


Was Obama also too right wing? Because in that election he never really committed to left win policy positions while she did.

/would love a really liberal president but it ain't happenin
//also, the first female leaders usually have to be pretty conservative, and Hillary looks great when you consider that
 
2013-09-27 04:37:00 PM

Infernalist: Lenny_da_Hog: She'll be a lightning rod for two more years, then a more likable Democrat will emerge to actually get the nomination.

Most likely scenario. Biden?


America would give Joe the bird.
 
2013-09-27 04:40:43 PM
Why is there a conservative oriented Hilary thread about her ineligibility every week? We're two years before an sane Democrat would declare, and at this point it's only giving her greater awareness than she would otherwise have if they just did something else.

Its silly. At this rate all she will have to do is make a vague statement two years out and every candidate on the right will embarrass themselves attacking her, allowing an actual candidate to appear after they have ruined their appearance to the public as being vindictive and aggressive. Even if she runs in the end, the longer they attack her the better her position becomes as aggressive campaigns do not poll well long term.

It makes no sense to me.
 
2013-09-27 04:41:00 PM
but a woman in public life is getting past her sell-by date at 69".


She might be getting past her fark-by date, and it appears that's all that matters to the GOP.  Not that Hillary was ever in a prime fark-me state, but you get the point.


How's that outreach going for the GOP?
 
2013-09-27 04:41:20 PM

Geotpf: OtherBrotherDarryl: I don't think the Dems would win if she got the nomination.  IF she got the nomination...she messed that one up bad in 2008.

Much to my surprise, she did an excellent job as Secretary of State-much better than her replacement is currently doing.

However, her age is a large issue, IMHO.  I think she is simply too old at this point.  2008 was basically her only shot, and she probably blew that chance way back in 2002 when she voted for the Iraq war in the Senate.


Uh she did a terrible job as SoS

Failed dialog w/ Russia, no resolution to Iran or NK, cluster-f*ck of Egypt all started under her watch.  You're just blaming Kerry for at worse continuing all her screw ups
 
2013-09-27 04:42:28 PM

Lord Dimwit: ikanreed: I'm not voting for Hillary '16 for the same reason I didn't vote Hillary '08, we live in a society of 300 million people, only a couple dozen of whom are blood relatives of a previous president.

...Hillary isn't a blood relative of any previous president...


Oh come on, you know what I meant.  We have so many options that don't establish a political dynasty.
 
2013-09-27 04:47:28 PM

JollyMagistrate: It makes no sense to me


The GOP base needs constant prodding and motivation by presenting them with enemies. They know they can never let that furnace go un-stoked.

In the meantime, they use those enemies to attract money through donations and book sales.
 
2013-09-27 04:50:42 PM

ikanreed: Lord Dimwit: ikanreed: I'm not voting for Hillary '16 for the same reason I didn't vote Hillary '08, we live in a society of 300 million people, only a couple dozen of whom are blood relatives of a previous president.

...Hillary isn't a blood relative of any previous president...

Oh come on, you know what I meant.  We have so many options that don't establish a political dynasty.


I know. I was just being humorously pedantic.

Well, pedantic.
 
2013-09-27 04:52:51 PM

doloresonthedottedline: Was Obama also too right wing? Because in that election he never really committed to left win policy positions while she did.

/would love a really liberal president but it ain't happenin
//also, the first female leaders usually have to be pretty conservative, and Hillary looks great when you consider that


Obama is also too right wing for me. I recall Obama coming off as the more liberal of the two in the primaries. Even though one of the big points, him being against the individual mandate, got thrown out almost immediately after he got elected.
 
2013-09-27 04:53:52 PM
Thanks for that Moonie Times.
 
2013-09-27 04:56:46 PM
How about passing the time with a game of solitaire?
 
2013-09-27 04:59:08 PM
Wishful Thinking is cute.

Considering the likely slate of Republiderp potential candidates, the Dems could put up GEORGE Clinton and still win 300 electoral votes.

Seriously, the House and Senate Republicans can't even get on the same page as each other over their core issues.  How in the world are they going to prop up a united front?  It wouldn't even surprise me to see 2 Republican candidates splitting the vote. One for the RNC and one for the Tea Party.

If Hillary is the nominee, she will win.  If that happens we can look forward to at least another 4 more years of the comedy gold that is Tea Party butthurt.
Just watching Glenn Beck cry and Karl Rove have another reality-meltdown on election night would be worth all the campaign BS.

Orly Taitz launching her "Women Can't Be President" lawsuits will be the icing on the cake.
 
2013-09-27 05:01:01 PM
I am a liberal. I have a great deal of respect for Hillary Clinton. I have also come to like her over the last 10 years. I think she was a good Sec of State. Based on her resume, I think she is one of the most qualified people in this country to be president. I will vote for her if she wins the primary. In my gut, though... I do worry about her being too old. I will obviously still vote for over anyone in the GOP clown show, but it is still a valid concern. Just sayin.
 
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