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2013-09-27 02:33:41 PM  
Snark aside, this is probably a good thing. McDonald's food, unhealthy as it is, at least fills you up. Soda doesn't do that.
 
2013-09-27 02:44:04 PM  

Fubini: Snark aside, this is probably a good thing. McDonald's food, unhealthy as it is, at least fills you up. Soda doesn't do that.


Well, other than the fries, which will leave you hungry pretty fast.
 
2013-09-27 03:02:01 PM  
Fatty McFatterson and her obese crib midgets won't care, they will just supersize and shovel the maximum amount of calories into their gullets that they can poop out in a day and not exercise.
 
2013-09-27 03:06:58 PM  

vudukungfu: Fatty McFatterson and her obese crib midgets


My new band name.
 
2013-09-27 03:35:11 PM  
No, now they've just put up giant billboards saying that you can get any size drink for $1.
 
2013-09-27 03:35:30 PM  

Fubini: Snark aside, this is probably a good thing. McDonald's food, unhealthy as it is, at least fills you up. Soda doesn't do that.


They're ending the  marketing of the sodas, not the  selling of the sodas. Suck 'em down, fatties!
 
2013-09-27 03:35:39 PM  
"imokwiththis.jpg"

/lazy
 
2013-09-27 03:36:44 PM  
"Ok, we'll take the poison out but leave the weirdly processed meat product fortified with salt and sugar. Deal?"

I await the coming boycott from people that say they're conservative but are really just kind of sad and dumb.
 
2013-09-27 03:37:44 PM  
You know who else refused to market things, in an effort to improve children's health....?
 
2013-09-27 03:37:50 PM  
Thing is it doesn't really matter, the equivalent serving of "juice" is so loaded with fruit concentrate that it has as many calories and sugars. The only added benefit is that is has some vitamin content over soda.
 
2013-09-27 03:38:03 PM  
OBESE CRIB MIDGETS
 
2013-09-27 03:38:10 PM  
Huh.
For the life of me, I always thought McD's kid meal came with (air quotes) orange juice (/air quotes).
AND I have kids who have actually been there a few times in thier life.

/you can probably count them on two hands
//the number of visits. Not the kids.
///SirSlashalot
 
2013-09-27 03:38:57 PM  
McDonalds should be a rare treat. A soda isn't going to ruin anything. If McDonald's is a mainstay of your diet...a soda isn't going to make much of a difference to your fatness.
 
2013-09-27 03:39:13 PM  
This will reflect badly on McDonald's calories to dollar ratio, which is all the poor can afford. Essentially raising the cost of supplying a full day's worth of calories to the needy. Why do you hate the poor McDonalds?
 
2013-09-27 03:41:13 PM  
The Burger Wars have begun!
 
2013-09-27 03:42:02 PM  
How about we stop farking around and slash corn subsidies? Then we can worry about marketing.
 
2013-09-27 03:43:05 PM  
Why doesn't the government just pass a law that outlaws hamburgers already?!?!?!?

I mean... O M G!!!
 
2013-09-27 03:43:36 PM  
FTFA: "McDonald's could make its meals less harmful by continuing to reduce sodium, adding more whole wheat into their buns, and phasing out their 30- and 21-ounce soda sizes for adults," Wootan wrote.

Oh, fark off. Seriously. It's like people think McDonald's goes around cramming this stuff down people's throats, and that McDonald's is the only place in the world that sells unhealthy food. Always with the attacks on McDonald's, while Denny's Beer Barrel Pub is celebrated for selling shiat like this:

www.supersizedmeals.com

Take responsibility for what you shove down your gaping maw, don't punish places for making it available.
 
2013-09-27 03:44:01 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: No, now they've just put up giant billboards saying that you can get any size drink for $1.


I stop for their coffee most mornings before work.  $1 for any size of decent coffee = not bad
 
2013-09-27 03:44:01 PM  
Well I'm sure we're outraged about this anyway.
 
2013-09-27 03:45:50 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: No, now they've just put up giant billboards saying that you can get any size drink for $1.


Mcdonalds should stop offering discounts for larger sizes, i stopped there for dinner the other night, 10pc mcnugget, medium fries... "Would you like a 20pc mcnugget for only $1 more?" I declined, but i felt kinda ripped off paying $4 for 10. But i probably woulda felt worse if id gotten 10 more and eaten them or wasted them.

All junk food for that matter. A 1.5oz bag of chips or 5 pack of oreos is $.99, but then a 10oz bag or 30 pack is only $3. 20oz soda is $.99 and a 2 liter is $1.09... sure the companies would probably just raise prices on larger sizes instead of averaging them, but that would mean more profit for them...
 
2013-09-27 03:46:26 PM  

Resident Muslim: Huh.
For the life of me, I always thought McD's kid meal came with (air quotes) orange juice (/air quotes).
AND I have kids who have actually been there a few times in thier life.

/you can probably count them on two hands
//the number of visits. Not the kids.
///SirSlashalot


Apple juice, milk, chocolate milk, or pop are the drink options.  They also come with apples and a tiny little thing of fries to go with the 4 piece chicken nuggets, cheese burger, or hamburger.
 
2013-09-27 03:46:29 PM  
Because if it isn't all healthy, it has to go away.

For the children.
 
2013-09-27 03:46:39 PM  
While parents who order their child a soda will not be turned down, health advocates say McDonald's has moved a step in the right direction in promoting alternatives.

But the Soda Council says soda is a nutritious part of a complete meal.
 
2013-09-27 03:48:00 PM  
Director of the Center for Science in the Public Interest Margo Wootan wrote that she's excited to see the changes, but that McDonald's could do more.

I see she has left the Clan.
 
2013-09-27 03:48:13 PM  
A marketing change is McDonald's answer to Burger King's offering of a marginally healthier french fry.

BRILLIANT!
 
2013-09-27 03:49:31 PM  

Cyno01: The My Little Pony Killer: No, now they've just put up giant billboards saying that you can get any size drink for $1.

Mcdonalds should stop offering discounts for larger sizes, i stopped there for dinner the other night, 10pc mcnugget, medium fries... "Would you like a 20pc mcnugget for only $1 more?" I declined, but i felt kinda ripped off paying $4 for 10. But i probably woulda felt worse if id gotten 10 more and eaten them or wasted them.

All junk food for that matter. A 1.5oz bag of chips or 5 pack of oreos is $.99, but then a 10oz bag or 30 pack is only $3. 20oz soda is $.99 and a 2 liter is $1.09... sure the companies would probably just raise prices on larger sizes instead of averaging them, but that would mean more profit for them...


The packaging and such is a significant expense.

That said, the $4.99 20 piece is nice because we can get that and a large thing of fries and it's dinner for three.  Grab a few packets of apples and we're good to go.
 
2013-09-27 03:49:34 PM  
So..  on the McD's meal builder, a McNugget Happy Meal with fries and regular soda comes in at 390 calories.  That's WITH the soda.  You could actually do a lot worse than this for a meal for a kid.  If it's not an every day (or even every week) happening, this is a perfectly acceptable treat.

It's about the same number of calories as the Mini Blizzard at Dairy Queen, and it's meant to be a whole meal, not just a snack.  I don't much care for McD's myself, but I really don't think they deserve all the blame for fattiness.
 
2013-09-27 03:51:40 PM  
Coca-Cola® Classic (Child), Serving Size 12 fl oz, 100 Calories, Sugars 28g
1% Low Fat Milk Jug , Serving Size 236 ml (about 8 oz), 100 Calories, Sugars 12g
Fat Free Chocolate Milk Jug, Serving Size 236 ml (about 8 oz), 130 Calories, Sugars 22g
Minute Maid® 100% Apple Juice Box, Serving Size 6.8 fl oz, 100 Calories, Sugars 22g

It's better, but not by much.

/stats from McDonald's
 
2013-09-27 03:51:46 PM  

hailin: McDonalds should be a rare treat. A soda isn't going to ruin anything. If McDonald's is a mainstay of your diet...a soda isn't going to make much of a difference to your fatness.


Actually someone ate McDonald's for 30 days during the "Supersize Me" hype, but this guy didn't drink any soda. He lost a few pounds actually.*
Even in the movie one of the doctors tells Morgan Spurlock to stop drinking calories.

*never had any proof of this
 
2013-09-27 03:52:28 PM  
I love how people seem to think the McDonald's is somehow this great evil out to make them unhealthy, and yet every single day normal healthy people somehow manage to consume McDonald's food without getting diabetes and losing their feet.  If you watch a McDonald's entrance for a few minutes and you'll see fat and thin people and everything in between walking in and out of it.  Noticeably absent will be armed thugs forcing people to purchase their food.
 
2013-09-27 03:53:03 PM  
oh hai guyz what's going on in this thread?

cdn.ebaumsworld.com
 
2013-09-27 03:53:06 PM  

Dragonflew: Oh, fark off. Seriously. It's like people think McDonald's goes around cramming this stuff down people's throats, and that McDonald's is the only place in the world that sells unhealthy food. Always with the attacks on McDonald's, while Denny's Beer Barrel Pub is celebrated for selling shiat like this:

www.supersizedmeals.com

Take responsibility for what you shove down your gaping maw, don't punish places for making it available.


Exactly! Everyone is on board the "bash McDonald's train" because they don't eat there. What are these holier than though folks gonna do when the food police come after something they enjoy? They will all be up in arms saying, you can't take away my Starbucks or Monster energy, etc. claiming their personal freedoms are being infringed.

Bunch o' hypocrites.
 
2013-09-27 03:53:44 PM  
FTFA:

McDonald's predicted the change will be implemented globally by 2020.

Sounds like it's not exactly a high priority.
 
2013-09-27 03:54:01 PM  

Ecobuckeye: Fubini: Snark aside, this is probably a good thing. McDonald's food, unhealthy as it is, at least fills you up. Soda doesn't do that.

They're ending the  marketing of the sodas, not the  selling of the sodas. Suck 'em down, fatties!


You know not everyone who eats there is fat. My kids play sports and enjoy McD's or other fast food semi-regularly. It is more about how you live than where you eat.

This sums it up pretty well:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkbQVTo45jI
 
2013-09-27 03:54:15 PM  

tarheel07: The My Little Pony Killer: No, now they've just put up giant billboards saying that you can get any size drink for $1.

I stop for their coffee most mornings before work.  $1 for any size of decent coffee = not bad


*decent?*

I admit, if I forget to make mine in the morning, McD's caffeine juice is what I end up with too. But it's nasty shiat.
 
2013-09-27 03:54:17 PM  
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Children, let us sing:

Hello, boys and girls
This is your old pal stinky wizzleteats
This is a song about a whale
No, this is a song about being happy
That's right, it's the happy, happy, joy, joy, song
Happy, happy, joy, joy
Happy, happy, joy, joy
Happy, happy, joy, joy
Happy, happy, joy, joy
Happy, happy, joy, joy
Happy, happy, joy, joy
Happy, happy, joy, joy, joy
I don't think you're happy enough
That's right, I'll teach you to be happy
I'll teach your grandmother to suck eggs
Now, boys and girls, let's try it again
Happy, happy, joy, joy
Happy, happy, joy, joy
Happy, happy, joy, joy
Happy, happy, joy, joy
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Happy, happy, joy, joy
Happy, happy, joy, joy, joy
If'n you ain't the granddaddy of all liars
Think of the little critters of nature
They don't know that they're ugly
That's very funny, a fly marrying a bumblebee
I told you, 'I'd shoot', but you didn't believe me
Why didn't you believe me?
Happy, happy, joy, joy
Happy, happy, joy, joy
Happy, happy, joy, joy
Happy, happy, joy, joy
Happy, happy, joy, joy
Happy, happy, joy, joy
Happy, happy, joy, joy, joy

Songwriters
BRISSETTE, CHARLIE / RECCARDI, CHRISTOPHER / KRICFALUSI, JOHN

Here it is for you Bronies. Yes, the demented Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy song with ponies! It doesn't sync perfectly, but the idea is great.
 
2013-09-27 03:54:33 PM  

poison_amy: So..  on the McD's meal builder, a McNugget Happy Meal with fries and regular soda comes in at 390 calories.  That's WITH the soda.  You could actually do a lot worse than this for a meal for a kid.  If it's not an every day (or even every week) happening, this is a perfectly acceptable treat.

It's about the same number of calories as the Mini Blizzard at Dairy Queen, and it's meant to be a whole meal, not just a snack.  I don't much care for McD's myself, but I really don't think they deserve all the blame for fattiness.


The quality of those calories should matter.  But we're nowhere near that level with those establishments.

But I agree with  hailin.  If their food is an occasional thing and not a staple of one's diet, and you know what kind of food you're eating, it's not really a problem.  It's a treat - not a healthy nutrition alternative.
 
2013-09-27 03:55:08 PM  
Also, how creepy are the other article recommendations at the bottom of the screen?

wtf

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5 SIGNS YOU'LL GET CANCER
 
2013-09-27 03:55:36 PM  

Dragonflew: FTFA: "McDonald's could make its meals less harmful by continuing to reduce sodium, adding more whole wheat into their buns, and phasing out their 30- and 21-ounce soda sizes for adults," Wootan wrote.

Oh, fark off. Seriously. It's like people think McDonald's goes around cramming this stuff down people's throats, and that McDonald's is the only place in the world that sells unhealthy food. Always with the attacks on McDonald's, while Denny's Beer Barrel Pub is celebrated for selling shiat like this:

[www.supersizedmeals.com image 366x550]

Take responsibility for what you shove down your gaping maw, don't punish places for making it available.


However, I bet I could tell you, with 95% accuracy, the ingredients of everything in that Denny's burger. I bet I could even guesstimate roughly how many calories it has. Why? Because it's essentially the same food I can and do make at home, albeit significantly larger.
That's not true for McDonald's. A "bakery style bun" (pdf) includes:
BAKERY STYLE BUN:
Ingredients: Enriched Flour (Bleached Wheat Flour, Malted Barley Flour, Niacin, Reduced Iron, Thiamin Mononitrate, Riboflavin, Folic Acid), Water, Whole Wheat Flour, High Fructose Corn Syrup, Honey, Wheat Gluten, Contains 2% or Less of: Yeast, Soybean Oil, Maltodextrin (Dietary Fiber), Salt, Calcium Sulfate, Dough Conditioners (Wheat Flour, DATEM, Ascorbic Acid, Azodicarbonamide, Sodium Stearoyl Lactylate, Mono and Diglycerides, Enzymes, Calcium Peroxide), Ammonium Sulfate, Natural Flavor (Botanical Source), Calcium Propionate (Preservative), Vitamin D3, Rolled Wheat (Topping).
CONTAINS: WHEAT

By comparison, when I make bread at home, it does not include corn syrup.
The same goes for almost everything on the Big Mac: the bun includes corn syrup, the sauce includes corn syrup, and the cheese is not actually cheese. It's an entirely different product than the burger you can make at home, meaning that you can't really estimate what its nutrition content is absent some specific experience with fast food.
 
2013-09-27 03:55:44 PM  

Beerguy: Exactly! Everyone is on board the "bash McDonald's train" because they don't eat there. What are these holier than though thou folks gonna do when the food police come after something they enjoy? They will all be up in arms saying, you can't take away my Starbucks or Monster energy, etc. claiming their personal freedoms are being infringed.

Bunch o' hypocrites.


Damn auto correct.
 
2013-09-27 03:56:36 PM  

The Muthaship: Because if it isn't all healthy, it has to go away.

For the children.


Nothing is going away. They are just changing what they are promoting.

The only difference is that ads will show the kids meal with juice or milk instead of pop.
 
2013-09-27 03:58:02 PM  

Cyno01: All junk food for that matter. A 1.5oz bag of chips or 5 pack of oreos is $.99, but then a 10oz bag or 30 pack is only $3. 20oz soda is $.99 and a 2 liter is $1.09... sure the companies would probably just raise prices on larger sizes instead of averaging them, but that would mean more profit for them...


But eating healthy food is CHEAPER!

I want to punch every single, organic asshole right in the coont whenever they say this. I can assure you eating healthy is much more expensive, or it's a huge pain in the ass.

I'm not talking just fast food versus home cooked either. Home cooked 'junk' food is loads cheaper.
 
2013-09-27 03:58:07 PM  

dywed88: Nothing is going away. They are just changing what they are promoting.

The only difference is that ads will show the kids meal with juice or milk instead of pop.


I understand.

I was responding to the tone of the headline.

The idea that people must be protected from themselves is getting out of hand.
 
2013-09-27 03:58:52 PM  

apotheosis27: Also, how creepy are the other article recommendations at the bottom of the screen?


Uh, those are the same article reccomendations on FARK. The NEWSMAX links on the right.

I've got that exact same image, but it's "This one weird trick to increase your social security check by $1000"
 
2013-09-27 04:00:40 PM  

jst3p: Ecobuckeye: Fubini: Snark aside, this is probably a good thing. McDonald's food, unhealthy as it is, at least fills you up. Soda doesn't do that.

They're ending the  marketing of the sodas, not the  selling of the sodas. Suck 'em down, fatties!

You know not everyone who eats there is fat. My kids play sports and enjoy McD's or other fast food semi-regularly. It is more about how you live than where you eat.

This sums it up pretty well:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkbQVTo45jI


That's great for your kids now, but they will be 45 someday with a slowing metabolism, and if eating fast-food is viewed as acceptable, the years of fat and salt will will do them no favors. Teach them how to cook. Make fast food a treat at worst, a quick meal on a road trip at best. I'm a dad. That's what I do. Your mileage may vary. But saying they're fine now is totally missing the point of your role as a parent.
 
2013-09-27 04:01:10 PM  
And here is how Burl Ives inspired the Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy song.
 
2013-09-27 04:01:12 PM  

bionicjoe: hailin: McDonalds should be a rare treat. A soda isn't going to ruin anything. If McDonald's is a mainstay of your diet...a soda isn't going to make much of a difference to your fatness.

Actually someone ate McDonald's for 30 days during the "Supersize Me" hype, but this guy didn't drink any soda. He lost a few pounds actually.*
Even in the movie one of the doctors tells Morgan Spurlock to stop drinking calories.

*never had any proof of this


Get a load of this fat ass!

"Mondays I always eat a Big Mac, two on Tuesdays, one on Wednesdays, two on Thursdays, one or two on Fridays, and two every Saturday," he explained.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/lifestyle/2013/09/64-year-old-man-who-at e- 12000-big-macs-in-30-years/
 
2013-09-27 04:01:38 PM  

bionicjoe: hailin: McDonalds should be a rare treat. A soda isn't going to ruin anything. If McDonald's is a mainstay of your diet...a soda isn't going to make much of a difference to your fatness.

Actually someone ate McDonald's for 30 days during the "Supersize Me" hype, but this guy didn't drink any soda. He lost a few pounds actually.*
Even in the movie one of the doctors tells Morgan Spurlock to stop drinking calories.

*never had any proof of this


I dropped 100lbs a couple of years back. Cutting out soda was one of the first things I did and I lost a decent amount of weight immediately.
 
2013-09-27 04:03:21 PM  

Ecobuckeye: jst3p: Ecobuckeye: Fubini: Snark aside, this is probably a good thing. McDonald's food, unhealthy as it is, at least fills you up. Soda doesn't do that.

They're ending the  marketing of the sodas, not the  selling of the sodas. Suck 'em down, fatties!

You know not everyone who eats there is fat. My kids play sports and enjoy McD's or other fast food semi-regularly. It is more about how you live than where you eat.

This sums it up pretty well:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkbQVTo45jI

That's great for your kids now, but they will be 45 someday with a slowing metabolism, and if eating fast-food is viewed as acceptable, the years of fat and salt will will do them no favors. Teach them how to cook. Make fast food a treat at worst, a quick meal on a road trip at best. I'm a dad. That's what I do. Your mileage may vary. But saying they're fine now is totally missing the point of your role as a parent.


To be fair, I do cook on weekends and evenings when I have time. I am proud of my abilities in the kitchen and my kids love my meals. Starting to teach my daughter. Your point is well taken, but like I said it is more about how you live than where you eat.
 
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