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2013-09-27 11:51:36 AM  
thegoldensombrero.com

Correct.
 
2013-09-27 12:06:56 PM  
And for his trouble he gets audited and possibly loses his job while the agency remains. At least he'll get half of what he wanted.
 
2013-09-27 12:30:50 PM  
Like the SEC under Mr. Bush, the Lesser?  This is my shocked face.
 
2013-09-27 01:41:20 PM  
Wow, that is going to be one hell of a water-cooler discussion when the employees hear this...
 
2013-09-27 01:47:13 PM  
So John Boehner and Harry Reid finally said what we've all been thinking about Congress, to Congress. Awesome! How do we help them out?
 
2013-09-27 01:47:31 PM  

monoski: Wow, that is going to be one hell of a water-cooler warmer discussion when the employees hear this...


ftfy
 
2013-09-27 01:49:12 PM  
Please be TSA!

Please be TSA!

Please be TSA!

*RsTFA*

Dammit.
 
2013-09-27 01:50:38 PM  
Hero tag, indeed.  And yet many voters still see government as their big brother savior.  Amazing.
 
2013-09-27 01:52:33 PM  
So it's like an extra jet engine we don't need and nobody wants, but colder?

And just as likely to be defunded.
 
2013-09-27 01:52:56 PM  
Here's a thought: instead of just cutting checks to all Alaska residents, how about the state funds this rural economic development agency out of the Alaska Permanent Fund? Considering the fund makes @ $1 billion a year in interest and dividend income, I'm sure Alaskans would approve spending $10 million, or 1 percent, right?. ARGLE BARGLE KEEP YOUR GUBMINT HANDS OFF MY MONEY CHECK!!
 
2013-09-27 01:53:37 PM  

rkiller1: Hero tag, indeed.  And yet many voters still see government as their big brother savior.  Amazing.


You're f*cking dumb.
 
2013-09-27 01:54:33 PM  
And the really farked up part of it is the boss will keep them on because NOBODY wants to lose staff, even when it does nothing.

The "DC" in Washington, DC stands for Dick-measuring Contest, and the dicks are represented by how much budget and staff you've got. Do they produce anything? Who cares, so long as I got more'n you! And I'll be damned if I give any of it up to balance the Federal budget or make the taxpayer-funded government more efficient.
 
2013-09-27 02:00:20 PM  

AngryJailhouseFistfark: And the really farked up part of it is the boss will keep them on because NOBODY wants to lose staff, even when it does nothing.

The "DC" in Washington, DC stands for Dick-measuring Contest, and the dicks are represented by how much budget and staff you've got. Do they produce anything? Who cares, so long as I got more'n you! And I'll be damned if I give any of it up to balance the Federal budget or make the taxpayer-funded government more efficient.


Also, canaries are good to have around for when they do make you cut. So you don't lose anyone good.
 
2013-09-27 02:00:55 PM  
I have come to the conclusion that one useless man is a disgrace,

Two become a lawfirm,

And that three or more become a congress.

/ lovingly stolen from John Adams and 1776
 
2013-09-27 02:03:17 PM  

AngryJailhouseFistfark: And the really farked up part of it is the boss will keep them on because NOBODY wants to lose staff, even when it does nothing.

The "DC" in Washington, DC stands for Dick-measuring Contest, and the dicks are represented by how much budget and staff you've got. Do they produce anything? Who cares, so long as I got more'n you! And I'll be damned if I give any of it up to balance the Federal budget or make the taxpayer-funded government more efficient.


While your point is well taken, private business (above a certain size) has the same mentality. We'd think that competition would ruthlessly eliminate waste in the private sector, but competition doesn't affect things that all of them do (like internal empire-building).

/posting from my desk at a Very Large Corp
 
2013-09-27 02:04:06 PM  
As a government worker bee, I can confirm that the last  place anyone will go for advice is to those of us in government who see the waste. There are too many levels above us intent on preserving their empires.
 
2013-09-27 02:04:49 PM  
Good move. As an honest man, he wasn't going to last too long in government anyway.
 
2013-09-27 02:12:50 PM  
DOWN WITH BIG GOVERNMENT
 
2013-09-27 02:13:13 PM  
dont really see a "Hero" here

he isn't wanting to close up shop, he is wanting to break his office away from being a governmental agency to being a freestanding "Non-Profit"

it has been my experience in life that "Non-Profit" just means, "we spend every dime on staffing, and Fund Raisers"
 
2013-09-27 02:13:19 PM  
I've had many adventures on the great river of pork.
 
2013-09-27 02:13:51 PM  
Marsh is a former prosecutor who lives in Phoenix and commutes to Alaska only when he needs to. Before he took this job, he audited state agencies for the Alaska government. "I have a long history of upsetting Alaskans," Marsh wrote in an email.

Maybe if they hired someone who actually lives in Alaska to run the department. Maybe then they'd find somebody that can make a positive difference with that federal cash. Just a thought.
 
2013-09-27 02:16:28 PM  
This is the Real reason the Muslim world hates the US Government, Too much Pork.
 
2013-09-27 02:18:31 PM  
Government pencil pusher, or Republican attention whore?
 
2013-09-27 02:19:19 PM  

Gaseous Anomaly: AngryJailhouseFistfark: And the really farked up part of it is the boss will keep them on because NOBODY wants to lose staff, even when it does nothing.

The "DC" in Washington, DC stands for Dick-measuring Contest, and the dicks are represented by how much budget and staff you've got. Do they produce anything? Who cares, so long as I got more'n you! And I'll be damned if I give any of it up to balance the Federal budget or make the taxpayer-funded government more efficient.

While your point is well taken, private business (above a certain size) has the same mentality. We'd think that competition would ruthlessly eliminate waste in the private sector, but competition doesn't affect things that all of them do (like internal empire-building).

/posting from my desk at a Very Large Corp


Once you build a sufficiently profitable business model and you start to expand, there can get to be a lot of room for squirrels and dust bunnies before anybody notices the difference, I'm sure.
 
2013-09-27 02:19:42 PM  

AngryJailhouseFistfark: And the really farked up part of it is the boss will keep them on because NOBODY wants to lose staff, even when it does nothing.

The "DC" in Washington, DC stands for Dick-measuring Contest, and the dicks are represented by how much budget and staff you've got. Do they produce anything? Who cares, so long as I got more'n you! And I'll be damned if I give any of it up to balance the Federal budget or make the taxpayer-funded government more efficient.


that's not remarkably different than corporate America
 
2013-09-27 02:20:53 PM  

bingethinker: Good move. As an honest man, he wasn't going to last too long in government anyway.


LOLWUT?!  Because only honest people work in the private sector?

If he really cared about saving people money, he'd ask the federal government to defund the department, then QUIT. If he gets fired, he gets to collect unemployment, which I guarantee he'll do.  Even the most ardent anti-government folks do because "If it's available, I'm going to use it... but I don't think it should be available."  DERR
 
2013-09-27 02:26:40 PM  

mbillips: Here's a thought: instead of just cutting checks to all Alaska residents, how about the state funds this rural economic development agency out of the Alaska Permanent Fund? Considering the fund makes @ $1 billion a year in interest and dividend income, I'm sure Alaskans would approve spending $10 million, or 1 percent, right?. ARGLE BARGLE KEEP YOUR GUBMINT HANDS OFF MY MONEY CHECK!!


You'll be willing to let them have 10% of your income as well, right?

Of course not. It's easy to be sitting 3,500 miles away in Atlanta and just give away other people's money, right?
 
2013-09-27 02:29:29 PM  

mbillips: Here's a thought: instead of just cutting checks to all Alaska residents, how about the state funds this rural economic development agency out of the Alaska Permanent Fund? Considering the fund makes @ $1 billion a year in interest and dividend income, I'm sure Alaskans would approve spending $10 million, or 1 percent, right?. ARGLE BARGLE KEEP YOUR GUBMINT HANDS OFF MY MONEY CHECK!!


The original intent if the Permenant Fund was to have operating funds for the state once the oil is gone. That remains a good idea. After the oil, we will not have the revenue to govern such a large state with such a small economic base.

The idea of the dividend was to make it politically impossible for politicians to touch the fund prematurly. We'll see if that "prematurly" happens when it becomes a choice between reinstating an income tax and using the fund.
 
2013-09-27 02:33:39 PM  

Lando Lincoln: Marsh is a former prosecutor who lives in Phoenix and commutes to Alaska only when he needs to. Before he took this job, he audited state agencies for the Alaska government. "I have a long history of upsetting Alaskans," Marsh wrote in an email.

Maybe if they hired someone who actually lives in Alaska to run the department. Maybe then they'd find somebody that can make a positive difference with that federal cash. Just a thought.


And just why would an alaskan native be any better at this job than him since it is just a pork barrel
 
2013-09-27 02:36:03 PM  

Carousel Beast: mbillips: Here's a thought: instead of just cutting checks to all Alaska residents, how about the state funds this rural economic development agency out of the Alaska Permanent Fund? Considering the fund makes @ $1 billion a year in interest and dividend income, I'm sure Alaskans would approve spending $10 million, or 1 percent, right?. ARGLE BARGLE KEEP YOUR GUBMINT HANDS OFF MY MONEY CHECK!!

You'll be willing to let them have 10% of your income as well, right?

Of course not. It's easy to be sitting 3,500 miles away in Atlanta and just give away other people's money, right?


Government printed it, meaning it is the People's money.
 
2013-09-27 02:36:09 PM  

Carousel Beast: mbillips: Here's a thought: instead of just cutting checks to all Alaska residents, how about the state funds this rural economic development agency out of the Alaska Permanent Fund? Considering the fund makes @ $1 billion a year in interest and dividend income, I'm sure Alaskans would approve spending $10 million, or 1 percent, right?. ARGLE BARGLE KEEP YOUR GUBMINT HANDS OFF MY MONEY CHECK!!

You'll be willing to let them have 10% of your income as well, right?

Of course not. It's easy to be sitting 3,500 miles away in Atlanta and just give away other people's money, right?


you do understand that most states have "State Taxes", and don't get a Check every year from there government to buy a new TV or Snowmobile with
 
2013-09-27 02:37:41 PM  
Hey subby one of the random advertisements on that site is compromised. It tried to install the Blackole kit on my system and infect my machine. Heads up to anyone who views that site - run a virus scan and update Java to the latest version, Java 7 v. 40
 
2013-09-27 02:38:36 PM  
It's not often you find a man that's willing to admit he can't do his job.  He can't do his job, and because of it, he'd like to take others with him to the unemployment line as well.
If you can't find SOMETHING to do with gubmint cash son, well then, you're a first class idiot.

OTOH, he's too stupid to find his job so give it to someone else.
Ten Big should make it possible to do SOMETHING there.
Here's cash.  Here's an office, Here's a staff, DOoo something with it.


And I'm sittin' here sucking wind for full time gigs.
 
2013-09-27 02:40:32 PM  

cajunns: Lando Lincoln: Marsh is a former prosecutor who lives in Phoenix and commutes to Alaska only when he needs to. Before he took this job, he audited state agencies for the Alaska government. "I have a long history of upsetting Alaskans," Marsh wrote in an email.

Maybe if they hired someone who actually lives in Alaska to run the department. Maybe then they'd find somebody that can make a positive difference with that federal cash. Just a thought.

And just why would an alaskan native be any better at this job than him since it is just a pork barrel


because it isn't "Pork Barrel", from what i am reading it serves a needed function. just needs some restructuring and such.

i don't know about Alaska, but i know here in Mississippi. when the Feds give money to the state for "Public Works", or really any type of Rural building program, you see One new road in the Delta, and Jackson gets a massive new road project around the Capital building
 
2013-09-27 02:40:37 PM  

super_grass: DOWN WITH BIG GOVERNMENT


CAREFUL NOW
 
2013-09-27 02:50:01 PM  

cajunns: Lando Lincoln: Marsh is a former prosecutor who lives in Phoenix and commutes to Alaska only when he needs to. Before he took this job, he audited state agencies for the Alaska government. "I have a long history of upsetting Alaskans," Marsh wrote in an email.

Maybe if they hired someone who actually lives in Alaska to run the department. Maybe then they'd find somebody that can make a positive difference with that federal cash. Just a thought.

And just why would an alaskan native be any better at this job than him since it is just a pork barrel


Because an Alaskan might actually give a fark about doing their job well, whereas this guy has a 16-hour commute and has no real interest in making the quality of life better for a bunch of inuits 16 hours away.
 
2013-09-27 02:53:16 PM  

thenumber5: Carousel Beast: mbillips: Here's a thought: instead of just cutting checks to all Alaska residents, how about the state funds this rural economic development agency out of the Alaska Permanent Fund? Considering the fund makes @ $1 billion a year in interest and dividend income, I'm sure Alaskans would approve spending $10 million, or 1 percent, right?. ARGLE BARGLE KEEP YOUR GUBMINT HANDS OFF MY MONEY CHECK!!

You'll be willing to let them have 10% of your income as well, right?

Of course not. It's easy to be sitting 3,500 miles away in Atlanta and just give away other people's money, right?

you do understand that most states have "State Taxes", and don't get a Check every year from there government to buy a new TV or Snowmobile with


I understand it well. It has nothing to do with the question I posed.
 
2013-09-27 03:00:40 PM  

Carousel Beast: thenumber5: Carousel Beast: mbillips: Here's a thought: instead of just cutting checks to all Alaska residents, how about the state funds this rural economic development agency out of the Alaska Permanent Fund? Considering the fund makes @ $1 billion a year in interest and dividend income, I'm sure Alaskans would approve spending $10 million, or 1 percent, right?. ARGLE BARGLE KEEP YOUR GUBMINT HANDS OFF MY MONEY CHECK!!

You'll be willing to let them have 10% of your income as well, right?

Of course not. It's easy to be sitting 3,500 miles away in Atlanta and just give away other people's money, right?

you do understand that most states have "State Taxes", and don't get a Check every year from there government to buy a new TV or Snowmobile with

I understand it well. It has nothing to do with the question I posed.


you asked a question, i see a short rant that ended with a question mark
 
2013-09-27 03:03:44 PM  

Marcintosh: It's not often you find a man that's willing to admit he can't do his job.  He can't do his job, and because of it, he'd like to take others with him to the unemployment line as well.
If you can't find SOMETHING to do with gubmint cash son, well then, you're a first class idiot.


No shiat.

The US government: "Here, here's some money and a staff of 11 people. Go and build some power plants and medical clinics for some small towns in the middle of nowhere, also known as 'Alaska.'"

Some director living in Arizona: "But this is stupid! Why don't you just give the money directly to Alaska so they can build the stuff themselves?"

The US government: "Because people like Sarah Palin get elected as Governor up there, so we'd prefer to keep these projects in-house."
 
2013-09-27 03:07:00 PM  

thenumber5: cajunns: Lando Lincoln: Marsh is a former prosecutor who lives in Phoenix and commutes to Alaska only when he needs to. Before he took this job, he audited state agencies for the Alaska government. "I have a long history of upsetting Alaskans," Marsh wrote in an email.

Maybe if they hired someone who actually lives in Alaska to run the department. Maybe then they'd find somebody that can make a positive difference with that federal cash. Just a thought.

And just why would an alaskan native be any better at this job than him since it is just a pork barrel

because it isn't "Pork Barrel", from what i am reading it serves a needed function. just needs some restructuring and such.

i don't know about Alaska, but i know here in Mississippi. when the Feds give money to the state for "Public Works", or really any type of Rural building program, you see One new road in the Delta, and Jackson gets a massive new road project around the Capital building


There are two projects being debated in Alaska that May be Germaine to your point.

1) Spending $20 Million for a 1 mile road that shaves about a half mile daily for Anchorage commuters (which is "nessecary").

2) Spending $20 Million for a 20 mile road connecting King Salmon and Cold Bay, creating foul-weather access to medical facilities and generally reducing the cost of providing essential State services (which is "pork").
 
2013-09-27 03:25:03 PM  

rkiller1: Hero tag, indeed.  And yet many voters still see government as their big brother savior.  Amazing.


Not necessarily. This case may be legitimate, may not.

Some people see Big Brother, some people see "...promote the general welfare..."

The devil is in the details.

...and who we choose as our suppliers of details can dictate where we see devils.
 
2013-09-27 03:28:07 PM  

EffervescingElephant: super_grass: DOWN WITH BIG GOVERNMENT

CAREFUL NOW


Is that you Father Ted?
 
2013-09-27 03:32:30 PM  

Gaseous Anomaly: AngryJailhouseFistfark: And the really farked up part of it is the boss will keep them on because NOBODY wants to lose staff, even when it does nothing.

The "DC" in Washington, DC stands for Dick-measuring Contest, and the dicks are represented by how much budget and staff you've got. Do they produce anything? Who cares, so long as I got more'n you! And I'll be damned if I give any of it up to balance the Federal budget or make the taxpayer-funded government more efficient.

While your point is well taken, private business (above a certain size) has the same mentality. We'd think that competition would ruthlessly eliminate waste in the private sector, but competition doesn't affect things that all of them do (like internal empire-building).

/posting from my desk at a Very Large Corp


InfrasonicTom: that's not remarkably different than corporate America


I agree with you both very hard. I once worked for the World's Largest Internet Provider that Simpletons thought it was the Internet. It got so huge and profitable that we had a re-org every 6 months. I did the same job (more or less) for 4 years, and in that time my function was under 5 different managers, 3 different directors, 3 different VPs, and in 2 different departments. Mind you, none of those people ever actually left the company (expect 2 of the managers). I learned that the whole upper/mid-level management had nothing to do with the end-product and their whole existence was organized around fighting for bodies to build their pyramids.

That only lasts so long in the private sector, however. And once the Interwebs Boom went bust, and their subscriber base went from ~35 Million to A Whole Lot Less, that all thinned out fast. The Fed, however, just keeps on keepin' on.
 
2013-09-27 03:47:56 PM  

bingethinker: Good move. As an honest man, he wasn't going to last too long in government anyway.


QFT. Also waste and unnecessary secrecy, which gets back to the honest man point. Potentially the entire DoHS and about half of DoHS contracts, half of the DEA, and about a third of the NSA (as well as half of their contracts) could be scrapped. The savings, say $50B a year, would be beautiful toward US debt or US infrastructure.
 
2013-09-27 03:52:46 PM  

Carousel Beast: mbillips: Here's a thought: instead of just cutting checks to all Alaska residents, how about the state funds this rural economic development agency out of the Alaska Permanent Fund? Considering the fund makes @ $1 billion a year in interest and dividend income, I'm sure Alaskans would approve spending $10 million, or 1 percent, right?. ARGLE BARGLE KEEP YOUR GUBMINT HANDS OFF MY MONEY CHECK!!

You'll be willing to let them have 10% of your income as well, right?

Of course not. It's easy to be sitting 3,500 miles away in Atlanta and just give away other people's money, right?


For causes in Alaska? Fark yes, it is easier to give Alaskans' money to pay for it. They are the ones who should be paying for it in the first place.
 
2013-09-27 04:06:36 PM  

umad: Carousel Beast: mbillips: Here's a thought: instead of just cutting checks to all Alaska residents, how about the state funds this rural economic development agency out of the Alaska Permanent Fund? Considering the fund makes @ $1 billion a year in interest and dividend income, I'm sure Alaskans would approve spending $10 million, or 1 percent, right?. ARGLE BARGLE KEEP YOUR GUBMINT HANDS OFF MY MONEY CHECK!!

You'll be willing to let them have 10% of your income as well, right?

Of course not. It's easy to be sitting 3,500 miles away in Atlanta and just give away other people's money, right?

For causes in Alaska? Fark yes, it is easier to give Alaskans' money to pay for it. They are the ones who should be paying for it in the first place.


When the Eisenhower interstate system was built in the 50's Alaska was a state and thus it got none of the 500 or so billion dollars of infrastructure projects, even though Alaskans at that time paid federal taxes.  If you guys are gong to come on up here, take our fish and oil and clog the roads and ports with RV's and cruise ships during tourist season, then you can damn well help pay for said roads and ports since we already paid for yours.
 
2013-09-27 04:13:52 PM  
I detect a distinctly piscine odor to this story.
 
2013-09-27 04:17:34 PM  

Forty-Three: umad: Carousel Beast: mbillips: Here's a thought: instead of just cutting checks to all Alaska residents, how about the state funds this rural economic development agency out of the Alaska Permanent Fund? Considering the fund makes @ $1 billion a year in interest and dividend income, I'm sure Alaskans would approve spending $10 million, or 1 percent, right?. ARGLE BARGLE KEEP YOUR GUBMINT HANDS OFF MY MONEY CHECK!!

You'll be willing to let them have 10% of your income as well, right?

Of course not. It's easy to be sitting 3,500 miles away in Atlanta and just give away other people's money, right?

For causes in Alaska? Fark yes, it is easier to give Alaskans' money to pay for it. They are the ones who should be paying for it in the first place.

When the Eisenhower interstate system was built in the 50's Alaska was a state and thus it got none of the 500 or so billion dollars of infrastructure projects, even though Alaskans at that time paid federal taxes.  If you guys are gong to come on up here, take our fish and oil and clog the roads and ports with RV's and cruise ships during tourist season, then you can damn well help pay for said roads and ports since we already paid for yours.


Do a ctrl-f on TFA for "road", "highway", "interstate" etc. Bills to pay for roads aren't pork, aren't what TFA is about, and aren't what anybody ITT is talking about.
 
2013-09-27 04:19:34 PM  

umad: Bills to pay for roads aren't pork,


Right. "Pork" isn't a subjective term at all.
 
2013-09-27 04:20:36 PM  
They could have just fixed the glitch so these things could have just worked out naturally.  Remember...they like to avoid confrontation whenever possible.

www.garycole.net
 
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