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2013-09-27 11:49:13 AM
He'll have a reason to be a lonely, friendless, creep who hangs out in the shadows away from society?
 
2013-09-27 12:13:08 PM

Bareefer Obonghit: He'll have a reason to be a lonely, friendless, creep who hangs out in the shadows away from society?


Hey!!!...............*looks around, closes shades*
 
2013-09-27 01:01:24 PM
he'll write a flash game about fishing and starve to death playing on the computer??
 
2013-09-27 01:22:57 PM
he will phish all day?
 
2013-09-27 01:23:23 PM

Bareefer Obonghit: He'll have a reason to be a lonely, friendless, creep who hangs out in the shadows away from society?


This is why I became a dba instead of a programmer. Our apps teams remind me of the comp sci classes I had but the progress of my databases give me more reward than a successful compilation.
 
2013-09-27 01:24:52 PM
Gawker wrote a great takedown of this kind of behavior, it's all too common for silly-con valley dweebs think that all of the world's problems can be solved if you just hand people a laptop or better yet, a tablet.

Honestly, this kind of stunt is kind of cruel and uses the homeless like they're lab animals. Just fork over the money and get them food and a house first. Teaching them how to use your crappy little startup programming language is just obnoxious.
 
2013-09-27 01:26:00 PM
Good for him.  It's nice to see someone on the street not take $100 and blow it on hookers and blow and instead opt for programming lessons that might get him off the streets.  Bravo to you, sir.
 
2013-09-27 01:27:54 PM
I gave up when I read the phrase "Rogue park".
 
2013-09-27 01:29:38 PM
www.imsorry.se
 
2013-09-27 01:31:11 PM
Can't smell any worse than some of the programmers I've worked with.

Learn to Code:
Day One: Learning the software: Open your compiler and close your compiler
Day Two: Establish your pedigree: "Who wrote this code? A blind donkey?
Day Three: Disgust: I can't make heads or tails of this "Hello World" program. The hack who put this together didn't know squat!
Day Four: Valid Solutions: We need a contractor to come in and clean up this code. I am way too busy with other projects
Day Five: Real Programmer Skills: Cat videos and using GIS to look at porn thumbnails at work.
 
2013-09-27 01:34:16 PM
Build a man a fire, keep him warm for the night.

Set a man on fire, keep him warm for the rest of his life.
 
2013-09-27 01:34:31 PM
. . . he'll come up with some awful-looking website onto which he will post his idiotic ideas, misattributed quotes, kitteh photos, political commentary worthy of a 10-year-old, and wonder why his traffic counter reads "zero" every week.
 
2013-09-27 01:35:09 PM
...he'll want a basement?
 
2013-09-27 01:37:04 PM
Global warming app written by homeless man saves the planet!
 
2013-09-27 01:39:15 PM
He'll only understand the literal truth?
 
2013-09-27 01:39:52 PM

zulius: Bareefer Obonghit: He'll have a reason to be a lonely, friendless, creep who hangs out in the shadows away from society?

This is why I became a dba instead of a programmer. Our apps teams remind me of the comp sci classes I had but the progress of my databases give me more reward than a successful compilation.


But programmers don't get calls at 2am about db issues .. which is why I chose the programmer route, over the dba.
 
2013-09-27 01:40:55 PM
...and some one will use this to justify bringing in people with a month's training to replace programmers with degrees and years of experience because they will work for half the pay.
 
2013-09-27 01:42:10 PM
As much as this sounds like a great idea, I pity the poor guy actually trying to get a job.  It's rough out there as a programmer.  I know.  I've been doing all manner of coding since Director 6 was the new hotness.  I've seen so many technologies come and go, and be embraced for the wrong reasons, it's almost maddening.  Nowadays, if you intend to do web development, all you really need is a moderate knowledge of CSS and JQuery.  Any thing older or lower level than that, and you won't really get very far.
 
2013-09-27 01:44:40 PM
He ends up writing java apps that crash non stop?
 
2013-09-27 01:45:53 PM

zulius: Bareefer Obonghit: He'll have a reason to be a lonely, friendless, creep who hangs out in the shadows away from society?

This is why I became a dba instead of a programmer. Our apps teams remind me of the comp sci classes I had but the progress of my databases give me more reward than a successful compilation.


Nerd
 
2013-09-27 01:47:53 PM
He'll move to India?
 
2013-09-27 01:53:28 PM
...he'll hack into your bank website, drain your account and eat until the next big score?
 
2013-09-27 01:59:47 PM
Obama doesn't want you to know about this one weird trick that Silicon Valley has come up with to cure homelessness and poverty.
 
2013-09-27 02:00:18 PM

Harry Freakstorm: Day Five: Real Programmer Skills: Cat videos and using GIS to look at porn thumbnails at work.


Get out of the 90s, man.  Everyone here's got a smartphone.
 
2013-09-27 02:05:15 PM
He'll name his son Robert'); DROP TABLE students;--?
 
2013-09-27 02:09:00 PM

super_grass: Gawker wrote a great takedown of this kind of behavior, it's all too common for silly-con valley dweebs think that all of the world's problems can be solved if you just hand people a laptop or better yet, a tablet.

Honestly, this kind of stunt is kind of cruel and uses the homeless like they're lab animals. Just fork over the money and get them food and a house first. Teaching them how to use your crappy little startup programming language is just obnoxious.


There's nothing crappy, or startup about JavaScript.
 
2013-09-27 02:09:33 PM

you have pee hands: Harry Freakstorm: Day Five: Real Programmer Skills: Cat videos and using GIS to look at porn thumbnails at work.

Get out of the 90s, man.  Everyone here's got a smartphone.


Too much trouble - new incognito window in Chrome.

Or so I've been told.
 
2013-09-27 02:14:50 PM
....he'll stare out the window from time to time, dreaming of the time when he could fish all day?
 
2013-09-27 02:18:18 PM
Write a man a program and you might have solved one of his problems.
Teach him to program and you have given enough problems to last the rest of his life.
 
2013-09-27 02:21:05 PM
Bill Clinton said it best a few years ago during all the debate over extending unemployment benefits. Just use money to get these people educated in a new skill and quit letting them sit at home indefinitely. He didn't say discontinue benefits to keep their houses going, just make them more employable while they're at it. He had maths and numbers and stuff. I wonder why this administration didn't listen more.

/no I'm not giong to find the quote, some talk show tho
 
2013-09-27 02:25:54 PM
The real art is to teach him to write bugs. Let the lesser souls then busy themselves with the debugging.
 
2013-09-27 02:40:00 PM

BitwiseShift: The real art is to teach him to write bugs.


Is Microsoft hiring?
 
2013-09-27 02:42:17 PM

OregonVet: Bill Clinton said it best a few years ago during all the debate over extending unemployment benefits. Just use money to get these people educated in a new skill and quit letting them sit at home indefinitely. He didn't say discontinue benefits to keep their houses going, just make them more employable while they're at it. He had maths and numbers and stuff. I wonder why this administration didn't listen more.

/no I'm not giong to find the quote, some talk show tho


Who sits at home indefinitely on the meager pittance that is an unemployment check? Pretty much every unemployed person I've ever known is spending all their time looking for a decent job, with little success. You take a highly skilled person, force them to take a low-skill job just to get off unemployment (which they have already paid for through payroll deductions), and you lower their potential productivity, hurting everyone.
 
2013-09-27 02:51:17 PM

OregonVet: Bill Clinton said it best a few years ago during all the debate over extending unemployment benefits. Just use money to get these people educated in a new skill and quit letting them sit at home indefinitely. He didn't say discontinue benefits to keep their houses going, just make them more employable while they're at it. He had maths and numbers and stuff. I wonder why this administration didn't listen more.


Agreed.  The problem with the unskilled and semi-skilled job markets is that they're bouncing between stagnant and contraction.  In this economy, if you want a stable full-time job, you need training.

Which brings up another problem.  Employers want turn-key employees.  They do not want to invest the time and effort to train a worker.  So you need schools in the area that can train students, often in very specialized professions.

Sitting on your ass along with a million other people hoping that another unskilled or semi-skilled job will open up is a huge waste of potential.  When a person signs up for unemployment, the government should review the skills of that person.  If they are for a job that is in low demand, there should be an incentive applied to that person to go back to school.  Doesn't have to be college either - trade schools are great at churning out a skilled employee in a minimal amount of time.
 
2013-09-27 03:15:08 PM
imageshack.com

/approved by the Duke brothers
 
2013-09-27 03:19:25 PM

super_grass: Gawker wrote a great takedown of this kind of behavior, it's all too common for silly-con valley dweebs think that all of the world's problems can be solved if you just hand people a laptop or better yet, a tablet.


Except this was Manhattan.  Not an area known for overwhelming altruism.

Honestly, this kind of stunt is kind of cruel and uses the homeless like they're lab animals. Just fork over the money and get them food and a house first. Teaching them how to use your crappy little startup programming language is just obnoxious.

Javascript is the most widely used programming language in history.  And if you read the article, you'll see that the guy is trying to use this as a stepping stone to get back on his feet, so it's basically working out better than anyone expected.

Literally everyone wins here.
 
2013-09-27 03:20:26 PM

Vautour: There's nothing crappy, or startup about JavaScript.


There's plenty crappy about JavaScript but it's certainly been around long enough to not be considered upstart (or startup though many of them use it).

durbnpoisn: Nowadays, if you intend to do web development, all you really need is a moderate knowledge of CSS and JQuery. Any thing older or lower level than that, and you won't really get very far.


Non scalable typing detected.
 
2013-09-27 03:34:47 PM
From the headline, I swore this was going to be a news article about a suicide.
 
2013-09-27 03:43:49 PM
super_grass:

Honestly, this kind of stunt is kind of cruel and uses the homeless like they're lab animals. Just fork over the money and get them food and a house first. Teaching them how to use your crappy little startup programming language is just obnoxious.

I know right, how dare someone try and change another persons life by teaching them a useful skill and providing them with opportunity to learn.
 
2013-09-27 04:12:34 PM

j__z: super_grass:

Honestly, this kind of stunt is kind of cruel and uses the homeless like they're lab animals. Just fork over the money and get them food and a house first. Teaching them how to use your crappy little startup programming language is just obnoxious.

I know right, how dare someone try and change another persons life by teaching them a useful skill and providing them with opportunity to learn.


No, I agree that first we should get them into some kind of affordable housing. Maybe come up with a program where the government will guarantee all at-risk home loans so the banks don't have to worry who they give a loan to. What could possibly go wrong?
 
2013-09-27 04:12:53 PM
Am I the only one who actually liked the article and think the fellow did a nice thing for the homeless man?
 
2013-09-27 04:35:42 PM
Lean Java/javascript? Or stay homeless.....?

That's not an easy decision.  There's a reason I make my flunkies do the java.
 
2013-09-27 04:36:40 PM

Third_Uncle_Eno: Am I the only one who actually liked the article and think the fellow did a nice thing for the homeless man?


Yes, you are.  Everyone else is either here to say how much the homeless suck forever, or how much programmers suck forever.
 
2013-09-27 04:37:52 PM

Sharksfan: Lean Java/javascript? Or stay homeless.....?

That's not an easy decision.  There's a reason I make my flunkies do the java.


Javascript is fine once you put in jquery.  Java, on the other hand, is an ugly over-corporate mess.  Hope that clarifies matters.
 
2013-09-27 04:41:48 PM
 
2013-09-27 04:45:49 PM

ikanreed: Javascript is fine once you put in jquery. Java, on the other hand, is an ugly over-corporate mess. Hope that clarifies matters.


I use jquery with php, etc, quite often.  Out of necessity I do use JS as well but I prefer to avoid it.  More of a preference thing than anything else.

Java apps make me want to quit my job and move to a cave.  That is, until I remember I bill hourly.
 
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