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(Opposing Views)   Heartwarming story: teenage Goodwill clerk gives discounts to poorest customers so they can afford clothes for their kids. Farkwarming story: Goodwill axes the kid and then presses felony grand theft charges against him   (opposingviews.com) divider line 237
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2013-09-27 12:03:34 PM  
Do managers realize now badly they damage their entire organization when they pull authoritarian stunts like this one....? The corporate office is gonna flip the fark out when the backlash hits later this week.
 
2013-09-27 12:40:23 PM  
Robin Hood was still a thief.

/Devil's Advocate
 
2013-09-27 12:47:59 PM  
jeebus.

1) how poor do you have to be to pan handle Goodwill?!
2) Rules are rules and I understand why they don't what the counter help changing prices
3) Should have pan handled the manager, he has the ability to change prices.


"It makes you feel amazing, makes you feel like that you can actually be the person to help them," said the ex-clerk

Feels amazing by giving away other people's stuff. He has a future in government.


Weaver95: Do managers realize now badly they damage their entire organization when they pull authoritarian stunts like this one....? The corporate office is gonna flip the fark out when the backlash hits later this week.


Well the corporation doesn't dictate what charges the kid is arrested for, that is the DA. Wiki says that Florida can charge you for as little as 300 bucks! Holy hell
 
2013-09-27 12:54:24 PM  

Amberwind: Robin Hood was still a thief.

/Devil's Advocate




Robin Hood stole from the government and gave it back to the over taxed people.

See the difference?
 
2013-09-27 12:54:27 PM  
You are a cashier.  You are not allowed to change pricing. It is not that difficult and very standard in retail situations.
 
2013-09-27 12:54:33 PM  
Call that being tricked by a business!
 
2013-09-27 12:55:40 PM  
Is this one of those douchy companys where the ceo makes tens of millions a year on reselling stuff people gave him for free?
 
2013-09-27 12:55:52 PM  
No sympathy here. If you want to make exceptions, talk to the manager.
 
2013-09-27 12:57:07 PM  
I used to manage a Goodwill in the ghetto, I am getting a kick.
 
2013-09-27 12:57:18 PM  
I don't think it matters whether it happens at a Goodwill store or a Walmart.  Cashiers are not allowed to set their own prices.
 
2013-09-27 12:57:33 PM  
THANKS OBAMA.....Police State and all that.
 
2013-09-27 12:58:04 PM  

GrahamManning: Is this one of those douchy companys where the ceo makes tens of millions a year on reselling stuff people gave him for free?


No, no, of course not.

It's in the single-digit millions.
 
2013-09-27 12:58:40 PM  
That kid made the mistake of thinking he worked for a charitable organization.
 
2013-09-27 12:59:47 PM  

Weaver95: Do managers realize now badly they damage their entire organization when they pull authoritarian stunts like this one....? The corporate office is gonna flip the fark out when the backlash hits later this week.


Nope.. I've seen this time and time again.. My old job hammered this home night and day to us. "Watch everything you say and do to your co-workers AND customers. All it takes it for ONE PERSON to go home and tweet about an experience, or post on Facebook about a bad experience and it could be on every media outlet in less than two days...

On the flip side they re-wrote their own rule book once a month to prevent us from saying "that rule doesn't exist"..
 
2013-09-27 12:59:59 PM  
Maybe you shouldn't be having children if you can't even afford Goodwill prices? Just a thought
 
2013-09-27 01:00:32 PM  
Goodwill is a for profit company. They just have a name that suggests otherwise. Salvation Army at least runs treatment programs for addicts.
 
2013-09-27 01:00:37 PM  

Amberwind: Robin Hood was still a thief.

/Devil's Advocate


So was Dennis Moore

/obscure?
 
2013-09-27 01:01:02 PM  

GrahamManning: Is this one of those douchy companys where the ceo makes tens of millions a year on reselling stuff people gave him for free?


Goodwill is also a good place for department stores to get a tax credit for unsold clothes. I think that's why a shirt costs $50.
 
2013-09-27 01:01:14 PM  
"Spojesperson (sic) Kirstin O'Donnel. 'In incidents like this, we always prosecute and the reason why is when people steal from Goodwill, they're not stealing from the company, they're stealing from the mission of our organization.'"

 http://www.goodwill.org/about-us/our-mission/# 

"Goodwill works to enhance the dignity and quality of life of individuals and families by strengthening communities, eliminating barriers to opportunity, and helping people in need reach their full potential through learning and the power of work."

Sounds like the kid just misunderstood the mission.
 
2013-09-27 01:02:00 PM  
Goodwill charges 99¢ for infants'/toddlers' clothes and $1.99 for children's clothes, and has a color of the week discount that basically halves the price of kids' clothes.  This has been the case in every Goodwill I've ever been in, including in Honolulu.

Methinks if you cannot afford 99¢ clothes for your kids, you've got bigger problems than this twerp could help with.

Also, church clothes closets (free!) are totally a thing.
 
2013-09-27 01:02:17 PM  
50 cents for a shirt!?!? Good Lord that's a lot of money!

I'll give you 10 cents and you let me have a sleeve, 2 buttons and a pocket.
 
2013-09-27 01:02:25 PM  

Amberwind: Robin Hood was still a thief.

/Devil's Advocate


I thought you could barter at goodwill?

/wtf? Advocate
 
2013-09-27 01:02:30 PM  
Look, Goodwill is trying to help people. If they gave shiat away for free, they wouldn't have any money to give shiat away for free, now would they?

/well give shiat away for free *and* pay their executives...
//Though that kid *does* look like a crook.
 
2013-09-27 01:02:39 PM  
This reminds me of my "If you are going to fight in school" advice. Don't do it, unless you feel that the punishment is a worthwhile price for the action.
 
2013-09-27 01:03:00 PM  
That  totally deserves a firing.  Maybe even estimate what he cost the company, and invoice him for it.  Charging him with a felony is silly.
 
2013-09-27 01:03:02 PM  

naturalbornposer: Goodwill is a for profit company.


Goodwill is a registered 501(c)(3) organization. Hence why your donations to them are tax deductible.
 
2013-09-27 01:03:59 PM  
The only good thing about Goodwill is the "technology" section.. You never know when you're going to need a copy of Airplane ][ on Video Disc
 
2013-09-27 01:04:24 PM  
global3.memecdn.com
 
2013-09-27 01:04:43 PM  
I'd like to know how poor the poorest people of Naples are;  "Yes, I'd like to buy clothes for my children before school starts but I'm getting the bathroom gold plated and I'm a bit short on disposable income"
 
2013-09-27 01:04:50 PM  
media.npr.org
 
2013-09-27 01:04:59 PM  

GrahamManning: Is this one of those douchy companys where the ceo makes tens of millions a year on reselling stuff people gave him for free?


yeah

Goodwill.

Good Will.

blog.angelatung.com
 
2013-09-27 01:05:07 PM  
Theft is theft. Terminate him and be done with it. But for the person that thought it would be a good idea to have someone that is unlikely to provide restitution charged, there is an appropriate quote from the movie Three Days of the Condor:

"Oh, you... you poor dumb son of a biatch. You've done more damage than you know."
 
2013-09-27 01:05:12 PM  

sumrandumgai: That kid made the mistake of thinking he worked for a charitable organization.


This.

Kaeishiwaza: I don't think it matters whether it happens at a Goodwill store or a Walmart.  Cashiers are not allowed to set their own prices.


Sorta agree, and yet he is re-selling *donated* goods. Goodwill buys nothing. Still, if they turned around and re-gave away everything in the store for free, they wouldn't be able to pay rent or payroll or make expenses.

Why couldn't they have just let him go with a warning is what I don't get, what he did here doesn't meet my definition of theft by even a wide margin, and it makes Goodwill look like utter douchebags. Imagine a bar owner getting a bartender charged with grand theft for giving away a few free rounds to his regulars. Against the riules? Sure. Belong in a jury trial? Oh hells no.
 
2013-09-27 01:05:19 PM  
This just in:  You can't create your own rules at work and just sell things for whatever you think is best.
 
2013-09-27 01:06:43 PM  
Goodwill is NOT a charity. Goodwills are owned by the wealthy, mostly Republicans who take all of the good stuff and sell it on the side (tax free of course) and then take the tax writeoff for helping the poors and tards hold a job selling the crap they didn't see fit to take. Ever wonder what happens to all the stuff you never see on the floor at Goodwill. It's buying some Cuban American Princess a new fur. Her dad earned it though, having helped Reagan death squad half of Mesoamerica.
 
2013-09-27 01:06:46 PM  
After you buy or donate something the employees say, "Thank you for supporting Goodwill's mission". What mission was that, again?

And it's not uncommon for people who run second hand stores to give discounts based on the amount and/or value of someone's purchase. Not that I'm saying that this is Goodwill's SOP, but it's not as unfathomable as some people seem to think.
 
2013-09-27 01:07:10 PM  
www.nomoola.com

www.theawl.com

Let's put the Goodwill model out of business! Who's with me now??? AAAAAHHHH-aaaahhh-aaahhhh
 
2013-09-27 01:07:22 PM  

Quinzy: You are a cashier.  You are not allowed to change pricing. It is not that difficult and very standard in retail situations.


Uh, what? You must not have worked in a place where you have a quota or sales goal.

Cashiers get a lot of leeway when it comes down to making a sale and meeting that daily quota.

I've worked it all from porno shops to thrift shops.
 
2013-09-27 01:07:51 PM  

topcon: This just in:  You can't create your own rules at work and just sell things for whatever you think is best.


Well...wall street can. So can banks. But everyone else has to follow some sort of rules!
 
2013-09-27 01:08:11 PM  

bunner: GrahamManning: Is this one of those douchy companys where the ceo makes tens of millions a year on reselling stuff people gave him for free?

yeah

Goodwill.

Good Will.

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Good Will
 
2013-09-27 01:08:15 PM  
Epic fail kid.

Firstly Goodwill is a charity, the money they make they use to fund programs to do shiat like train mentally and physically handicapped people so they can have jobs and live independently, so good job with that.

Secondly if you're such a humanitarian, pay for the difference out of your own pocket and actually walk the walk.
 
2013-09-27 01:08:57 PM  

Weaver95: topcon: This just in:  You can't create your own rules at work and just sell things for whatever you think is best.

Well...wall street can. So can banks. But everyone else has to follow some sort of rules!


Durr, I'm Weaver95, and I post this kind of stuff in 95 percent of Fark articles.

Do you actually work?
 
2013-09-27 01:09:02 PM  

topcon: This just in:  You can't create your own rules at work and just sell things for whatever you think is best.


Well, anymore.

Not since the last general store in town closed down.
 
2013-09-27 01:09:12 PM  

Kaeishiwaza: I don't think it matters whether it happens at a Goodwill store or a Walmart.  Cashiers are not allowed to set their own prices.


Here's the difference...Goodwill merchandise is donated by the general public (at least, it is here)...Walmart only gets their lower prices by squeezing the manufacturers by the small, round, and furries in order to make their profit margin higher.
 
2013-09-27 01:09:29 PM  

Quinzy: You are a cashier.  You are not allowed to change pricing. It is not that difficult and very standard in retail situations.


...good effort. That should get some bites.
 
2013-09-27 01:10:14 PM  
naturalbornposer:  Salvation Army at least runs treatment programs for addicts.

As long as you're not gay...
 
2013-09-27 01:10:31 PM  

Weaver95: topcon: This just in:  You can't create your own rules at work and just sell things for whatever you think is best.

Well...wall street can. So can banks. But everyone else has to follow some sort of rules!


And WTF sense does this make?  Yeah, a COMPANY can decide to sell something for whatever it wants.  An employee of a said company can't.

But durr, let's be obtuse and say something about wallstreet and banks.
 
2013-09-27 01:10:39 PM  

Weaver95: Do managers realize now badly they damage their entire organization when they pull authoritarian stunts like this one....? The corporate office is gonna flip the fark out when the backlash hits later this week.


THIS.

The only reason Goodwill exists is because of donations.  How fast will those donations dry up when it's seen as a cash grab by management and made unavailable to those who really need it?
 
2013-09-27 01:11:04 PM  

topcon: Weaver95: topcon: This just in:  You can't create your own rules at work and just sell things for whatever you think is best.

Well...wall street can. So can banks. But everyone else has to follow some sort of rules!

Durr, I'm Weaver95, and I post this kind of stuff in 95 percent of Fark articles.

Do you actually work?


No, he doesn't.  He constantly complains about how shiatty his life is.

I think he's Paris Hilton.
 
2013-09-27 01:11:20 PM  
Humanity sucks.
 
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