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(Mother Jones)   Let's hope the President can hold the red line he's drawn this time   (m.motherjones.com) divider line 10
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2013-09-27 11:56:18 AM  
3 votes:

tfresh: SenorBenedict: DamnYankees: He's gonna have to - if he gives in and negotiates AT ALL on this, he's essentially changing America's constitutional structure.

The stupid thing is despite what the beltway "BOTH SIDES!" wants to claim, americans will hold the GOP primarily responsible BECAUSE THEY farkING ARE RESPONSIBLE! It drives me nuts when idiots on tv go "The gop is worried they might get blamed" THEY farkING SHOULD BE WORRIED BECAUSE THEY ARE THE REASON WE ARE DOING THIS!

You're saying they should be blamed because fighting stacking on more debt is a bad thing?

well I'm in then!

MORE DEBT!
MORE DEBT!
MORE DEBT!!!


You farking mouth breathers. The debt is being reduced at a rate unseen since ww2, and its actively hurting our economy and yet you idiots want more. Except when you don't like more tax cuts, more corporate subsidies, and more military spending.

Not to mention the farking debt ceiling isn't increasing more debt its paying for bills your mouth breathers already rang up.
2013-09-27 09:14:26 AM  
2 votes:
Stop responding to Aristocles
2013-09-27 10:31:16 AM  
1 votes:

DamnYankees: He's gonna have to - if he gives in and negotiates AT ALL on this, he's essentially changing America's constitutional structure.


Pretty sure he admitted negotiating last time was wrong and since he doesn't have to run for election again or seem "reasonable" to the dc mongoloids he's not going to fark that up.

The stupid thing is despite what the beltway "BOTH SIDES!" wants to claim, americans will hold the GOP primarily responsible BECAUSE THEY farkING ARE RESPONSIBLE! It drives me nuts when idiots on tv go "The gop is worried they might get blamed" THEY farkING SHOULD BE WORRIED BECAUSE THEY ARE THE REASON WE ARE DOING THIS!
2013-09-27 10:00:32 AM  
1 votes:

Notabunny: LouDobbsAwaaaay: Unfortunately, Obama's entire history of dealing with the GOP says he'll buckle.  I'd like him to stand up for me, but I don't think he's capable.  As much as I advocated for Obama over Hillary during the 08 primaries, I really think we need Hillary as president right now.  I don't see her folding under pressure from the right the way Obama does.

That may explain Republican's fear of Hillary. There's a more overt aggressiveness there. We knew Obama was going to approach the presidency as a team builder, but he's stuck with that failed idea for too long. I don't think Hillary would take 5 minutes to re-learn that lesson.


And I think that's a lesson people have learned.- I think her reputation as being too aggressive will actually be an asset in 2016 instead of a liability. She's well positioned right now.
2013-09-27 09:47:58 AM  
1 votes:
If the Democrats controlled 1/2 of 1 of 3 branches of government and they pulled shiat like this, I'm sure the GOP would just roll right over and give them everything that they wanted.

And really, this kind of behavior basically frees the Democrats up to do just that in the future if the GOP does win the majority again.

Which makes you wonder if they really expect to be in that position at all...
2013-09-27 09:23:43 AM  
1 votes:

Notabunny: 14th Amendment, baby


Or a trillion-dollar coin.  I can see either happening, and whether either does happen is entirely in the GOP's court. I would be just about anything that 1) Obama IS serious about not negotiating the debt cieling, and 2) he won't let the country default.
2013-09-27 09:17:08 AM  
1 votes:

CPennypacker: Stop responding to Aristocles


CPennypacker: Stop responding to Aristocles


CPennypacker: Stop responding to Aristocles


CPennypacker: Stop responding to Aristocles


CPennypacker: Stop responding to Aristocles

2013-09-27 09:12:58 AM  
1 votes:

Aristocles: So BOB is willing to drive the country off a cliff... remember this, voters. We'll see how the dems fare in the next elections.


I won't be voting for Obama again, that's for sure.

I didn't know Bob Dole was running again.  Besides, he's a Republican.
2013-09-27 09:09:37 AM  
1 votes:
Unfortunately, Obama's entire history of dealing with the GOP says he'll buckle.  I'd like him to stand up for me, but I don't think he's capable.  As much as I advocated for Obama over Hillary during the 08 primaries, I really think we need Hillary as president right now.  I don't see her folding under pressure from the right the way Obama does.
2013-09-27 09:03:02 AM  
1 votes:
14th Amendment, baby
 
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