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(Washington Times)   USAF dronesizes an F-16   (washingtontimes.com) divider line 34
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2013-09-27 08:58:10 AM
Ensign NOLO nods in recognition.  Repeat story is repeat, but I wonder what could be done by converting A-10 Warthogs into drones.
 
2013-09-27 09:02:55 AM
This is a big deal. Having fly-by-remote air superiority fighters is the future. Making accommodations for a pilot is expensive and pilots are expensive.
 
2013-09-27 09:04:36 AM
Why convert manned aircraft into drones?  Many of the systems are designed to keep a pilot safe and relatively comfortable, and add unnecessary cost to a drone.
 
2013-09-27 09:04:51 AM

Phil McKraken: This is a big deal. Having fly-by-remote air superiority fighters is the future. Making accommodations for a pilot is expensive and pilots are expensive.


Plus less bodies in the air means less potential for dead pilots.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-09-27 09:04:59 AM

Phil McKraken: This is a big deal. Having fly-by-remote air superiority fighters is the future. Making accommodations for a pilot is expensive and pilots are expensive.


No, it's just a target like all the old fighters that have been converted into drones before it.  Nothing new.
 
2013-09-27 09:06:47 AM

Any Pie Left: Ensign NOLO nods in recognition.  Repeat story is repeat, but I wonder what could be done by converting A-10 Warthogs into drones.


Nothing useful.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-09-27 09:09:48 AM
Here is some info on the QF-4 drones that we converted the old F-4s into.
 
2013-09-27 09:14:58 AM

Any Pie Left: Ensign NOLO nods in recognition.  Repeat story is repeat, but I wonder what could be done by converting A-10 Warthogs into drones.


Utter subjugation by our robot masters?
 
2013-09-27 09:16:58 AM
There goes any hope for another Top Gun...
 
2013-09-27 09:17:45 AM
"Now we have a mission-capable, highly sustainable, full-scaled aerial target to take us into the future,"

The Air Force uses these drones for live fire training, not for battlefield or air superiority uses.  They are using old F-16s now because they are running out of F-4s to shoot down, like the one that crashed at Tyndall this summer.

Not scary at all, Smits
 
2013-09-27 09:17:52 AM
Make sure to you have enough power allocated for Tractors, t-bombs or mines if you don't have enough Phaser-3s or ADDs available. If you expect a swarm, then launch a wild weasel. If you play Lyran, just charge up the ESG.
 
2013-09-27 09:20:50 AM

GoldSpider: Why convert manned aircraft into drones?  Many of the systems are designed to keep a pilot safe and relatively comfortable, and add unnecessary cost to a drone.


Because aerodynamics is farking hard and backwards compatibility is farking easy.
 
2013-09-27 09:20:54 AM

Phil McKraken: This is a big deal. Having fly-by-remote air superiority fighters is the future. Making accommodations for a pilot is expensive and pilots are expensive.


I think more importantly, one of the primary limitations on airplane performance is the squishy fleshbag in the cockpit. I'd love to see what we can do with a purpose-built remote air superiority craft that doesn't have to be concerned with the pilot blacking out. The F-16 actually comes pretty close, but we could do better.
 
2013-09-27 09:20:56 AM

Cid_Highwind: Any Pie Left: Ensign NOLO nods in recognition.  Repeat story is repeat, but I wonder what could be done by converting A-10 Warthogs into drones.

Nothing useful.


Pretty much. Those things are already the culmination of "let's build a massive gun, and put some wings on it." The next best thing would be to build an aircraft around a Quake 2-style rail gun, or stealing from Borderlands 2, build a plane around a gun that shoots swords that explode on impact, which make more swords that also explode. It'll be a SWORDSPLOSION

MAKE IT DO THOSE THINGS I JUST SAID
 
2013-09-27 09:22:16 AM

GoldSpider: Why convert manned aircraft into drones?  Many of the systems are designed to keep a pilot safe and relatively comfortable, and add unnecessary cost to a drone.


I am agreeing with GoldSpider, which means the Rapture is upon us.

The pilot accomodations on an F-16 may be a sunk cost, but this seems like a ridiculous move.  If it is a  'Hey, let's see if we can take this scrapyard-bait jet and fly it' experiment, doesn't the AF have anything better way to spend time, money and expertise?
 
2013-09-27 09:23:49 AM
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2013-09-27 09:26:52 AM

DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: GoldSpider: Why convert manned aircraft into drones?  Many of the systems are designed to keep a pilot safe and relatively comfortable, and add unnecessary cost to a drone.

I am agreeing with GoldSpider, which means the Rapture is upon us.

The pilot accomodations on an F-16 may be a sunk cost, but this seems like a ridiculous move.  If it is a  'Hey, let's see if we can take this scrapyard-bait jet and fly it' experiment, doesn't the AF have anything better way to spend time, money and expertise?


Full scale target drones like this are used to test various weapons systems.  The AF uses QF-4 drones for this now, but they are starting to run low on those, and they aren't a good analog for modern threats.  the F-16's that have been sent to the boneyards are what the AF-16 drones will be made from.

We get our money's worth out of these tests and the drones who preform them.
 
2013-09-27 09:26:53 AM
Here is a better article that explains how these retired F-16s are being retrofitted into target drones.  http://www.stripes.com/news/air-force/drone-f-16-takes-flight-closer- t o-becoming-aerial-target-1.243218
 
2013-09-27 09:27:13 AM

GoldSpider: Why convert manned aircraft into drones?  Many of the systems are designed to keep a pilot safe and relatively comfortable, and add unnecessary cost to a drone.


Perhaps they convert old planes that failed age tests and would be used as spare parts anyway.
 
2013-09-27 09:30:37 AM
Up next, converting your mom's $8,000 dildo into a lame led lit, voice-activated carbon-fiber dream machine for only fifty times the selling price of the Washington Times company.
 
2013-09-27 09:32:01 AM

DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: GoldSpider: Why convert manned aircraft into drones?  Many of the systems are designed to keep a pilot safe and relatively comfortable, and add unnecessary cost to a drone.

I am agreeing with GoldSpider, which means the Rapture is upon us.

The pilot accomodations on an F-16 may be a sunk cost, but this seems like a ridiculous move.  If it is a  'Hey, let's see if we can take this scrapyard-bait jet and fly it' experiment, doesn't the AF have anything better way to spend time, money and expertise?


It's already been mentioned what they're using these for, but I'd also mention that it's likely a lot cheaper to just retrofit an existing plane than to go through the R&D of designing and building a new one if you're not concerned too much about reliability.
 
2013-09-27 09:33:35 AM
This is a missile test target, just like all the previous remote controlled full sized fighters, right?
 
2013-09-27 09:34:22 AM
1. Story is a repeat.
2. the USAF has been doing this for years with old airframes
 
2013-09-27 09:38:06 AM
They have done this for years, they used to use F-102's and F-106's.Like Bush 2 flew,which may have been the first drone flown by a drone.
 
2013-09-27 09:41:01 AM

Metaluna Mutant: Make sure to you have enough power allocated for Tractors, t-bombs or mines if you don't have enough Phaser-3s or ADDs available. If you expect a swarm, then launch a wild weasel. If you play Lyran, just charge up the ESG.


If you're playing Lyran with teammates, watch out for pursuit plotting.
I dragged an opponent over his own teammate that way, and neither was the least bit amused :)
 
2013-09-27 09:41:23 AM
Fark is better at scaring people with republicans than technology.  Stick to what you are good at
 
2013-09-27 09:41:55 AM
Couldn't we just have a running man type show where convicted criminals are used to pilot the targets instead?  Based on their skill if they're able to evade all the fire and pursuits have their sentence commuted to live out the rest of their lives on a tropical island?

Plus it would be funny to see Arnold as a fighter pilot.
 
2013-09-27 09:44:13 AM
I liked the comment section devolving into a 9/11 conspiracy flame war.
 
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2013-09-27 09:48:56 AM
 
2013-09-27 09:50:39 AM

FullMetalPanda: Couldn't we just have a running man type show where convicted criminals are used to pilot the targets instead?  Based on their skill if they're able to evade all the fire and pursuits have their sentence commuted to live out the rest of their lives on a tropical island?

Plus it would be funny to see Arnold as a fighter pilot.


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2013-09-27 09:51:49 AM
The only thing that concerns me about this story is the USAF polluting the Gulf of Mexico with aircraft wreckage and jet fuel.
 
2013-09-27 09:54:08 AM

DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: GoldSpider: Why convert manned aircraft into drones?  Many of the systems are designed to keep a pilot safe and relatively comfortable, and add unnecessary cost to a drone.

I am agreeing with GoldSpider, which means the Rapture is upon us.

The pilot accomodations on an F-16 may be a sunk cost, but this seems like a ridiculous move.  If it is a  'Hey, let's see if we can take this scrapyard-bait jet and fly it' experiment, doesn't the AF have anything better way to spend time, money and expertise?


So should they just make more F-4s to shoot down in weapons tests? WTF is your problem with a target drone as an end of life plan for an airframe?
 
2013-09-27 10:30:30 AM

rocketpants: The only thing that concerns me about this story is the USAF polluting the Gulf of Mexico with aircraft wreckage and jet fuel.


Artificial reefs.  And I think I heard that fish like jet fuel.  It's like alcohol to them.
 
2013-09-27 03:46:56 PM
I hope we're still allied with South Korea in Futurewar.
 
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