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(Enterprise News)   Massachusetts charges woman $4,000 for emergency response to dropped thermometer   (enterprisenews.com) divider line 19
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2013-09-27 09:51:13 AM
4 votes:
Mercury is NOT the super toxic substance the nanny-state world seems to think it is.  Literally decades of children played with it in classrooms and otherwise, and they were just fine.  I mean yeah, you don't want to eat the shiat and play with it all day long, but minor exposure to it is NOT going to affect you.
2013-09-27 08:29:50 AM
4 votes:
No dumbass tag for the woman calling a Hazmat team to clean it up?
gja [TotalFark]
2013-09-27 09:55:02 AM
3 votes:
Good God we are becoming such a society of collective pussies.
2013-09-27 09:55:00 AM
3 votes:
Moral of the story:  Scoop up the mercury, put it in a Z zip lock bag and toss it in the garbage, If they want you to do something more responsible they can stop punishing you for doing the responsible thing.
2013-09-27 09:56:10 AM
2 votes:

Cyno01: Wasnt there a story a while back about some family having to move out of their home while it was decontaminated because somebody broke a fluorescent bulb


No. No, there wasn't
2013-09-27 09:51:26 AM
2 votes:
I wonder how much they'll fine her when they found she threw away rechargeable AA batteries in her trash can instead of taking them to an approved collection point. Also dispose of those musical greeting cards properly!

From a Mass. government website:
Lithium & "Button" - Lithium, and small button-shaped batteries (typically Nickel Cadmium) used in hearing aids, watches, cameras, calculators, and electronic toys contain toxic metals and should NOT be thrown in household trash.  The popularity of singing greeting cards and inexpensive battery-powered toys increases toxic risk to the environment.  Please remove all batteries from cards and toys and make sure that they are disposed of properly.  Lithium and button batteries are accepted (no charge) at The Transfer Station and the Department of Public Works office (Route 116 South).
2013-09-27 12:28:51 PM
1 votes:
A friend of mine has been saving mercury out of thermometers, switches, etc. for years. He has about a pint jar of the stuff, or did last time I visited him. If that thing ever breaks, it's going to be a federally reportable spill.

/Yes, I have told him that. Don't know if he listened.
2013-09-27 11:13:22 AM
1 votes:
I just practice "DADT"...Don't ask, don't tell.

one time I found boxes of something marked "Johns Manville" with 1950-style images on it...asbestos?? probably...just hid the boxes in bags and chucked it. Do it as long as no one knows. That shiat is very long gone now.

Same thing with that can of mercury switches from some old 1950s-era washing machine lids. Break CFLs and drop long fluorescent bulbs down on the garage floor?? Did that...swept them up and chucked them.

Of course I removed the converters from at least 300+ 1975 to 1980s cars, enlarged the fuel filler pipes and converted them to run on leaded gas in my time.
2013-09-27 10:59:32 AM
1 votes:

rumpelstiltskin: FriarReb98: I know the article says they're trying to put a loophole in for accidental incidents like this, but I'm guessing that'll be a hard law to push through here in Ma$$a¢hu$€tts.

Why should there be a loophole for accidents? "Waah Waah, I didn't mean to do it. I shouldn't have to pay for it. Rumpelstilstkin down the road should pay for it."
OK, that's a bit harsh. I know why I get to pay for it. Because I can. But because I'm going to pay for it, I should get something out of it, and as much as helping out some oaf warms my heart that just doesn't seem enough. When I was a kid, my parents taught me not to have accidents by making me work in my mother's garden like I was some kind of Mexican until my debt was paid off. We should do something like that here. Make the clumsy kid who broke the thermometer wash all the trucks at the hasmat lot for a couple of years. And I can come by on Saturdays to watch and laugh and throw peanuts at her. That way we all get something out of it.


Scenario:  Woman drops thermometer, it breaks, some mercury is spilled.  She calls 911 and says, "I just broke a mercury thermometer, do I have to worry about it?  Or can I just clean it up."

As the law is now where this woman lived the dispatcher is required to dispatch the hazmat team.  The exception that they are looking for is not to exempt people from having to pay but to allow for the dispatcher to not automatically send out the hazmat team.  She can instead direct the woman to go and get a mercury spill kit or some other course of action that does not require emergency vehicles.
2013-09-27 10:57:39 AM
1 votes:

topcon: Mercury is NOT the super toxic substance the nanny-state world seems to think it is.  Literally decades of children played with it in classrooms and otherwise, and they were just fine.  I mean yeah, you don't want to eat the shiat and play with it all day long, but minor exposure to it is NOT going to affect you.


The Flynn effect shows that IQs have been increasing steadily. Part of that is because we eliminated lead from gasoline and most paint. Another part is that women are not getting routine mercury poisoning while pregnant, and mercury emissions have been forced down by clean air emissions. Mercury causes brain damage in children, and environmental exposure is seriously bad.

A lot of the progress we've had has come from doing things like not letting mercury be near kids. The fact that some people were okay or were damaged into being Tea Partiers in no way invalidates that.
2013-09-27 10:20:02 AM
1 votes:

Ctrl-Alt-Del: This wasn't "erring on the side of caution," this was "completely disregarding the Mass. DEP guidelines" for cleaning up Mercury spills. Spills of less than one pound (~2 tablespoons) of mercury do not require a hazmat team, they can be cleaned up by the homeowner with gloves and an eyedropper, basically.


Powdered sulfur will also absorb the mercury nicely, and then it can be swept up and disposed of.
2013-09-27 10:11:36 AM
1 votes:

FriarReb98: I'd guess she called 911 to see if she had to do anything, and that led to the big red "EVERYBODY PANIC" button being pushed by the police. Just sucks that erring on the side of caution can cost this much.


This wasn't "erring on the side of caution," this was "completely disregarding the  Mass. DEP guidelines" for cleaning up Mercury spills. Spills of less than one pound (~2 tablespoons)  of mercury do not require a hazmat team, they can be cleaned up by the homeowner with gloves and an eyedropper, basically.

So unless the homeowner insisted on a hazmat team, she shouldn't pay a goddamned dime, because they shouldn't have sent one out there.
2013-09-27 10:04:09 AM
1 votes:
Yeah, I remember the old science kits with the mercury in them.  Rolling a ball of it around in your hands, accidentally dropping some of it onto the shag carpet (yeah, I think we got most of it back in the vial).  The hysteria around mercury (and asbestos) is ridiculous.  Yeah, they're hazardous, but it's not like a cloud of cyanide gas that will kill you before you hit the ground.

I visited an "artisinal" (small-scale, local) miners site in Africa, and lots of them use mercury to amalgamate small gold grains together - the gold "sticks" with the mercury, and after you gather enough gold grains they "burn off" (vaporize) the mercury leaving a nugget of relatively pure gold.  I saw one of the guys carrying his small amount of mercury in a Ziplock bag in his pocket.  Did I stick around and watch them vaporize the mercury?  Hell no!
2013-09-27 10:01:17 AM
1 votes:
The best one was when a school got locked down and a hazmat team called in because a student brought a (totally not broken) mercury thermometer to school.
2013-09-27 10:01:15 AM
1 votes:

topcon: Mercury is NOT the super toxic substance the nanny-state world seems to think it is.  Literally decades of children played with it in classrooms and otherwise, and they were just fine.  I mean yeah, you don't want to eat the shiat and play with it all day long, but minor exposure to it is NOT going to affect you.


This.  When I was really young my mother dropped a thermometer. Being a teacher (elementary school science) she thought it was a good occasion to show us mercury and how it behaves. We watched for a while as she split it creating separate balls of metal and then showed us how they reabsorb when they touch again. It was really cool.  And, I live in Massachusetts. I'm not sure what she did with it. Probably flushed it since it was the 1970s.
2013-09-27 09:59:19 AM
1 votes:

Cyno01: Wasnt there a story a while back about some family having to move out of their home while it was decontaminated because somebody broke a fluorescent bulb and everyone involved erred on the side of caution and nobody wanted to just say "Its just a little mercury, not really that big a deal, put a fan in the window for a while".


LOL WUT?  man.. we used to use the old burnt out florescent bulbs as freakin light sabres we save them up and go through like 20 of them smashing over each other
2013-09-27 09:58:58 AM
1 votes:
I want the series of unfortunate events that escelated a broken thermometer all the way up to HAZMAT.  I realize at one point the big red button got pushed and PANIC! ensued.

Who pushed the button?   What led that one person to press the red button for a broken thermometer?  How did a cleanup crew not show up, wipe that shiat up with a towel, and say "nah lady, it's on the house."  I honestly can't understand how this didn't resolve itself somewhere along the line.
2013-09-27 09:49:51 AM
1 votes:
Good. Dumb biatch is the one who called emergency services in the first place.
2013-09-27 09:42:53 AM
1 votes:

BizarreMan: No dumbass tag for the woman calling a Hazmat team to clean it up?


I'd guess she called 911 to see if she had to do anything, and that led to the big red "EVERYBODY PANIC" button being pushed by the police.  Just sucks that erring on the side of caution can cost this much.  I know the article says they're trying to put a loophole in for accidental incidents like this, but I'm guessing that'll be a hard law to push through here in Ma$$a¢hu$€tts.
 
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