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2013-09-27 08:33:54 AM  
Gotta love the caps lock rule for headlines
 
2013-09-27 08:41:02 AM  
Did subby start to do the YMCA dance but got cut off in the middle?
 
2013-09-27 08:41:09 AM  
You know, you really shouldn't taunt the dynamite monkey.
 
2013-09-27 08:42:02 AM  
Don't get the headline.  Is is someone chopped in half who also has advanced testicular cancer?
 
2013-09-27 08:45:26 AM  
Shut down the government! Blow through the debt ceiling! Subject the United States to fiscal chaos or financial ruin if your party can't get its way on unrelated ideological priorities!

I didn't read far enough to find out if this was sarcastic, but I feel the same way. Do it and suffer the consequences. If you tell your kid not to stick his hand on the stove burner a hundred times, and whenever you turn your back he goes right back up to the line, he's never going to learn unless you let him stick his hand in the fire. Fark it. Let them burn the entire house down and be forced to sleep in its ashes, because they will never stop.
 
2013-09-27 08:47:18 AM  

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Shut down the government! Blow through the debt ceiling! Subject the United States to fiscal chaos or financial ruin if your party can't get its way on unrelated ideological priorities!

I didn't read far enough to find out if this was sarcastic, but I feel the same way. Do it and suffer the consequences. If you tell your kid not to stick his hand on the stove burner a hundred times, and whenever you turn your back he goes right back up to the line, he's never going to learn unless you let him stick his hand in the fire. Fark it. Let them burn the entire house down and be forced to sleep in its ashes, because they will never stop.


More like your kid going to drive the both of you into the Grand Canyon unless you meet all his demands.
 
2013-09-27 08:47:23 AM  
Wow, not only is there a paywall but two ad windows. Politico's really hard up for cash, huh?

/ on a work machine
 
2013-09-27 08:52:16 AM  
NSFW, but fitting for the occasion.
 
2013-09-27 08:55:25 AM  

gnosis301: Don't get the headline.  Is is someone chopped in half who also has advanced testicular cancer?


GIS for "Jump you f***ers." (NSF prudes language)
 
2013-09-27 09:01:47 AM  

Alphax: Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Shut down the government! Blow through the debt ceiling! Subject the United States to fiscal chaos or financial ruin if your party can't get its way on unrelated ideological priorities!

I didn't read far enough to find out if this was sarcastic, but I feel the same way. Do it and suffer the consequences. If you tell your kid not to stick his hand on the stove burner a hundred times, and whenever you turn your back he goes right back up to the line, he's never going to learn unless you let him stick his hand in the fire. Fark it. Let them burn the entire house down and be forced to sleep in its ashes, because they will never stop.

More like your kid going to drive the both of you into the Grand Canyon unless you meet all his demands


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywX-KFYt0Yo
 
2013-09-27 09:02:44 AM  
I finally got one of my more entrenched relatives to see why this is ore a hostage situation than real negations. I said it was a lot like if a country attacked us, and the President wanted to attack back because there is a clear danger that we will come under repeated attack. It would be in everyone's interest to strike back - we're under attack. In response, Congress would say, "Wait. Before we give you permission to strike, we want you to agree to all our legislation demands. Oh, and if you strike without our permission, we'll impeach you."

I'm not sure why this one worked with the ages relative, but it did.
 
2013-09-27 09:03:07 AM  

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Shut down the government! Blow through the debt ceiling! Subject the United States to fiscal chaos or financial ruin if your party can't get its way on unrelated ideological priorities!

I didn't read far enough to find out if this was sarcastic, but I feel the same way. Do it and suffer the consequences. If you tell your kid not to stick his hand on the stove burner a hundred times, and whenever you turn your back he goes right back up to the line, he's never going to learn unless you let him stick his hand in the fire. Fark it. Let them burn the entire house down and be forced to sleep in its ashes, because they will never stop.


The problem is, their base is certifiable, drool-ridden retards.  They could watch Boehner, on live TV, literally stick a gun to someone's head and murder him, but in the court of retarded Teatard opinion, he would totally be exonerated because the Alex Jones, Limbaughs, Hannitys and Coulters of the world would convince them that Boehner was under a mind-control device from Fartbongo.
 
2013-09-27 09:05:15 AM  

DeaH: I'm not sure why this one worked with the ages relative, but it did.


Like Republicans, the respond well to the use of military force
 
2013-09-27 09:06:40 AM  
fta If that's the case, mightn't it be better to let the crash happen, if only so the reconstruction can start?

No, dumbass. Intentionally harming the global economy in hopes of teaching a lesson to a handful of extremists and radicals is not a good idea.
 
2013-09-27 09:07:24 AM  
Wouldn't it be wonderful if we could all act the GOP?

Boss, you have to give me a raise, more vacation time, a cubicle with a window, and bagels for the office twice a month. In return, I'll actually do my job. Hey! Why are these security guards here? I was just trying to compromise.
 
2013-09-27 09:08:13 AM  

DeaH: I finally got one of my more entrenched relatives to see why this is ore a hostage situation than real negations.


Congrats, but don't get your hopes up that it'll stick. I've had similar discussions where some relative will come around but then go home and listen to Rush or Fox for a week or so and completely forget everything by the next time I see them.
 
2013-09-27 09:08:28 AM  
The funny thing is from what I've read so far, it looks like Boehner doesn't have enough Republican votes to pass this monstrosity in the House. He can't convince the GOP to support the entire GOP agenda!
 
2013-09-27 09:10:22 AM  
The Republican response seems to consist of, "If Obama were a gentleman, he'd never let us slit this baby's throat."
 
2013-09-27 09:14:27 AM  

Notabunny: fta If that's the case, mightn't it be better to let the crash happen, if only so the reconstruction can start?

No, dumbass. Intentionally harming the global economy in hopes of teaching a lesson to a handful of extremists and radicals is not a good idea.


THIS.  Sending federal employees off the job and making their families suffer, forcing consumer spending to plummet, and throwing  more uncertainty into the market is not worth the satisfying "told ya so" we'd get to say afterward.  Why would you be willing to let the GOP ruin everything, when instead you could just cut them out of governance completely?  I'd rather the GOP hate Obama for being a "dictator" by invoking the 14th and/or the coin-loophole than have huge sectors of the population hate Obama for refusing to stand up for them.
 
2013-09-27 09:15:20 AM  
Well shutting down the government and default may piss off enough people that our country's politics will change, that the ignorant masses voting Republican will wake up, and they will stop blaming Obama for soiling their Depends while they are sleeping.
 
2013-09-27 09:16:52 AM  

DeaH: The Republican response seems to consist of, "If Obama were a gentleman, he'd never let us slit this baby's throat."


And they seem to forget the epic shiat-kicking they took when they went and shut down the government before.
 
2013-09-27 09:16:58 AM  

Serious Black: The funny thing is from what I've read so far, it looks like Boehner doesn't have enough Republican votes to pass this monstrosity in the House. He can't convince the GOP to support the entire GOP agenda!


The modern GOP is comprised of a bunch of ex-hippies who still don't quite know what they're rebelling against, but dammit, they're gonna rebel.
 
2013-09-27 09:19:06 AM  

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Notabunny: fta If that's the case, mightn't it be better to let the crash happen, if only so the reconstruction can start?

No, dumbass. Intentionally harming the global economy in hopes of teaching a lesson to a handful of extremists and radicals is not a good idea.

THIS.  Sending federal employees off the job and making their families suffer, forcing consumer spending to plummet, and throwing  more uncertainty into the market is not worth the satisfying "told ya so" we'd get to say afterward.  Why would you be willing to let the GOP ruin everything, when instead you could just cut them out of governance completely?  I'd rather the GOP hate Obama for being a "dictator" by invoking the 14th and/or the coin-loophole than have huge sectors of the population hate Obama for refusing to stand up for them.


I think Obama should name the coin the Amero. You know, just to mess with the teabaggers.
 
2013-09-27 09:20:27 AM  

USCLaw2010: Alphax: Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Shut down the government! Blow through the debt ceiling! Subject the United States to fiscal chaos or financial ruin if your party can't get its way on unrelated ideological priorities!

I didn't read far enough to find out if this was sarcastic, but I feel the same way. Do it and suffer the consequences. If you tell your kid not to stick his hand on the stove burner a hundred times, and whenever you turn your back he goes right back up to the line, he's never going to learn unless you let him stick his hand in the fire. Fark it. Let them burn the entire house down and be forced to sleep in its ashes, because they will never stop.

More like your kid going to drive the both of you into the Grand Canyon unless you meet all his demands

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywX-KFYt0Yo


...their widescreen is in its proper landscape position and ...they held the phone in ...portrait mode...

www.reactiongifs.com
 
2013-09-27 09:20:47 AM  

Skarekrough: And they seem to forget the epic shiat-kicking they took when they went and shut down the government before


that's because most of the GOP in the House weren't in office back then. They have no idea what it's like
 
2013-09-27 09:21:50 AM  

Notabunny: I think Obama should name the coin the Amero. You know, just to mess with the teabaggers.


He should have been hosting an online contest for the last three months to design the faces of the coin.  He doesn't even have to use the damn coin, necessarily.  Just use it as the ultimate leverage to force the GOP to act like adults and come to the table to actually negotiate.  Give them the choice of dropping the bullshiat and doing their jobs, or watch the coin go into the treasury and they get nothing.  If they want to cut off their nose to spite their face, so be it.
 
2013-09-27 09:25:06 AM  
This "give me what I want or I'll blow it and we all die" thing that the GOP is trying to establish as a recurrent mean to obtain things they want GOTTA STOP NOW! They don't know what compromise means anymore, they filibuster everything, they do not want to govern, just obstruct and sabotage any progress. Really, I'm getting farking tired of those assholes.
 
2013-09-27 09:26:28 AM  

Skarekrough: DeaH: The Republican response seems to consist of, "If Obama were a gentleman, he'd never let us slit this baby's throat."

And they seem to forget the epic shiat-kicking they took when they went and shut down the government before.


If by "epic shiat-kicking" you mean they had full control of all three elected branches of government six years later, then yes!

Seriously, this is a myth. The shutdown was the winter of 1995-96; in the 1996 elections, even though Bill Clinton won the presidency, the GOP only lost 3 seats in the House and actually picked up seats in the Senate. The 1998 midterms - when impeachment was in full swing - the GOP only lost 4 seats in the House and held the margin in the senate.

The net result of this "epic shiat-kicking" was a grand total of 7 lost seats in the House, and a gain of two seats in the Senate. Yes, the Democrats managed to regain control of the Senate in 2000 for a couple months, but even that was gone by 2002.
 
2013-09-27 09:27:57 AM  
Sometimes when you have a serious case of flesh eating bacteria, you have to amputate the limb to save the patient.  It's becoming clearer that the teahaddists are that bacteria.

Though part of me wonders if Boehner would sacrifice himself by putting up a clean CR in the house and letting a vote occur. He'd be the "hero" of the day, but would be eaten alive by his own party.

/In this case "hero" means doing the thing you should have been doing all along, but instead you were hoping that ignoring the problem would cause someone else to solve it.
 
2013-09-27 09:28:53 AM  
The GOP is like that attention whore that always claims she is going to kill herself every weekend and never does.
 
2013-09-27 09:31:07 AM  

somedude210: Skarekrough: And they seem to forget the epic shiat-kicking they took when they went and shut down the government before

that's because most of the GOP in the House weren't in office back then. They have no idea what it's like


They're delusional if they think Americans won't believe people who constantly rail about the evils of government aren't responsible for shutting it down.
 
2013-09-27 09:32:13 AM  

qorkfiend: Skarekrough: DeaH: The Republican response seems to consist of, "If Obama were a gentleman, he'd never let us slit this baby's throat."

And they seem to forget the epic shiat-kicking they took when they went and shut down the government before.

If by "epic shiat-kicking" you mean they had full control of all three elected branches of government six years later, then yes!

Seriously, this is a myth. The shutdown was the winter of 1995-96; in the 1996 elections, even though Bill Clinton won the presidency, the GOP only lost 3 seats in the House and actually picked up seats in the Senate. The 1998 midterms - when impeachment was in full swing - the GOP only lost 4 seats in the House and held the margin in the senate.

The net result of this "epic shiat-kicking" was a grand total of 7 lost seats in the House, and a gain of two seats in the Senate. Yes, the Democrats managed to regain control of the Senate in 2000 for a couple months, but even that was gone by 2002.


Wasn't there a GOP-initiated shutdown more recently, that resulted in things like military personnel not being paid ?
 
2013-09-27 09:32:14 AM  

Skarekrough: DeaH: The Republican response seems to consist of, "If Obama were a gentleman, he'd never let us slit this baby's throat."

And they seem to forget the epic shiat-kicking they took when they went and shut down the government before.


Last time there was no Fox News, an internet with lots of derpy sites and a Blah president in the WH, so I'm afraid the outcome could be quite different this time.
 
2013-09-27 09:33:35 AM  
I don't want to see a default and/or government shutdown but it seems inevitable at this point.  Even if the republicans cave this time, they're going to continue to make the same threats year after year until they're foolhardy enough to follow through.  Maybe we should just get it over already so that the teatards can be taken out behind the shed and our political system can start to correct itself.
 
2013-09-27 09:34:49 AM  

somedude210: Skarekrough: And they seem to forget the epic shiat-kicking they took when they went and shut down the government before

that's because most of the GOP in the House weren't in office back then. They have no idea what it's like


And also why the Senate (outside of Rafael Eduardo Cruz) isn't supporting their agenda at all. Most of them remember it quite well.

When John McCain comes out and publicly says "we lost - get over it," one can only imagine what he's saying to those retards in closed session.
 
2013-09-27 09:37:47 AM  
It's like a schizophrenic threatening to shoot himself in the head if the voices don't do what he wants them to do.
 
2013-09-27 09:41:33 AM  
Yup, just got the "If you don't hear anything by Tuesday, you'll be expected to come in on Tuesday to be given your furlough notice and go home" email from our Commander. Can't wait to be furloughed twice in a year. This is awesome. More Federal fundays!
 
2013-09-27 09:43:18 AM  

error 303: Yup, just got the "If you don't hear anything by Tuesday, you'll be expected to come in on Tuesday to be given your furlough notice and go home" email from our Commander. Can't wait to be furloughed twice in a year. This is awesome. More Federal fundays!


same here. Though wouldn't driving in to work just to go home seem pointless?
 
2013-09-27 09:47:30 AM  

give me doughnuts: It's like a schizophrenic threatening to shoot himself in the head if the voices don't do what he wants them to do.


i.imgur.com
 
2013-09-27 09:47:45 AM  

error 303: Yup, just got the "If you don't hear anything by Tuesday, you'll be expected to come in on Tuesday to be given your furlough notice and go home" email from our Commander. Can't wait to be furloughed twice in a year. This is awesome. More Federal fundays!


If you call in sick do you have to be furloughed on Wednesday?
 
2013-09-27 09:50:06 AM  

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Notabunny: I think Obama should name the coin the Amero. You know, just to mess with the teabaggers.

He should have been hosting an online contest for the last three months to design the faces of the coin.  He doesn't even have to use the damn coin, necessarily.  Just use it as the ultimate leverage to force the GOP to act like adults and come to the table to actually negotiate.  Give them the choice of dropping the bullshiat and doing their jobs, or watch the coin go into the treasury and they get nothing.  If they want to cut off their nose to spite their face, so be it.


You don't need a contest. The face of the coin should be John Boehner's head with teabag earrings and the reverse is a crying eagle shredding a copy of the 14th amendment.
 
2013-09-27 09:52:07 AM  

somedude210: error 303: Yup, just got the "If you don't hear anything by Tuesday, you'll be expected to come in on Tuesday to be given your furlough notice and go home" email from our Commander. Can't wait to be furloughed twice in a year. This is awesome. More Federal fundays!

same here. Though wouldn't driving in to work just to go home seem pointless?


Well, I think you have to be there in person to "accept" your furlough notice and sign some paperwork. And then my agency is weird because our leave accounts are forward funded so the money is already there, so we may be able to take leave in leiu of furlough, and also many of our civil work folks are project funded by non-expiring funds, meaning some folks could still work fully funded without interuption. I really don't know and at this point sort of just think it's frustratingly hilarious.
 
2013-09-27 10:02:45 AM  

give me doughnuts: It's like a schizophrenic threatening to shoot himself in the head if the voices don't do what he wants them to do.




...Or a doctor telling you it's better to suffer the appendectomy than wait for the obvious outcome.

If Obama care turns out to be a problem the the economy is tanked either way.
Democrats refusing to negotiate and threatening shutdown over one issue isn't going to save us from a disaster. At best it only means we'll default on a bigger debt than we have now.

/and It's purely a political stance, since many dems admit this thing isn't ready for prime time.
/a delay would help more than hurt.
 
2013-09-27 10:13:55 AM  

way south: Democrats refusing to negotiate and threatening shutdown over one issue isn't going to save us from a disaster


One issue?

Obamacare
Obamacare and tort reform
Obamacare, tort reform and tax code reform
Obamacare, tort reform, tax code reform, and EPA regulation rollback
Obamacare, tort reform, tax code reform, EPA regulation rollback, and nationwide abortion ban

Funny definition of 'one'

About the only thing I haven't seen on the GOP demand list is to force the gays to unmarry.  Not to give them any ideas.  But then I haven't seen the list for a few hours.

Seriously, it looks like more like they are trying to throw as many poison pills in there as they can.
 
2013-09-27 10:19:35 AM  
 
2013-09-27 10:20:53 AM  

way south: If Obama care turns out to be a problem the the economy is tanked either way.
Democrats refusing to negotiate and threatening shutdown over one issue isn't going to save us from a disaster. At best it only means we'll default on a bigger debt than we have now.


Um... you do realize the Republicans are only demanding to defund Obamacare, not repeal it.  Obamacare is already law.  There's nothing they can do about that right now.  They're only demanding it not be funded.  It's like if Obama built a hospital, and the Republicans are threatening to destroy the country unless Obama agrees to not pay the doctors.

The Republican demand is to intentionally sabotage Obamacare to GUARANTEE that it will not work.  It's "Agree to let us attach a time bomb to the economy that we can blame on you, or we'll destroy the economy right now and blame it on you."
 
2013-09-27 10:46:42 AM  
So should I sell my stocks and buy new ones next week?  The market is pretty high now, but I want MORE!  It looks like the shutdown in the 90's did almost nothing to the market so selling now would be foolish.  Any financial advise
 
2013-09-27 10:56:10 AM  
Jesus Christ you guys have lost Jennifer-farkin-Rubin

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2013/09/27/a-lot-o f- republicans-know-better/

Give it up.
 
2013-09-27 11:01:07 AM  

Alphax: Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Shut down the government! Blow through the debt ceiling! Subject the United States to fiscal chaos or financial ruin if your party can't get its way on unrelated ideological priorities!

I didn't read far enough to find out if this was sarcastic, but I feel the same way. Do it and suffer the consequences. If you tell your kid not to stick his hand on the stove burner a hundred times, and whenever you turn your back he goes right back up to the line, he's never going to learn unless you let him stick his hand in the fire. Fark it. Let them burn the entire house down and be forced to sleep in its ashes, because they will never stop.

More like your kid going to drive the both of you into the Grand Canyon unless you meet all his demands.


Well in that case I'm glad I buckled my seatbelt and my psychotic child didn't. Maybe only the guilty party will die in the ensuing catastrophe.
 
2013-09-27 11:28:47 AM  
"What people forget is that going into that shutdown, Dole had a pretty significant lead," said David Winston, a pollster and strategist who has advised the House Republican leadership, then and now. "And by the time they finished the two shutdowns, he was trailing by a significant margin. All the numbers dramatically changed."

Oh come the Fark on, seriously?  People willingly print this revisionist claptrap?

That's like saying that John Kerry had good numbers until the gay marriage issue popped up.  Dole and Kerry were unelectable because they were Dole and Kerry.  They both projected as much charisma as a tree stump.  Their numbers dramatically changed because they were challengers, and the general public had to learn about them before making up their minds.

That being said, Bob Dole doesn't deserve his reputation as a grinch.  Dole is actually a clever, witty guy, but he had a campaign staff that kept him bottled up and micro-managed his speech and actions.  They actually tried to conceal his war wounds, by making him give incessant, awkward thumbs-up with his good arm.  Like the public would see war wounds as a manufacturing defect.  Little surprise he came across as stiff and curmudgeonly.
 
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