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2013-09-27 09:04:51 AM
The French Gubbmint does
 
2013-09-27 09:09:06 AM
FTFA: Greenpeace Russia campaign director Ivan Blokov described the arrest as "the most aggressive and hostile act against Greenpeace since the bombing of the Rainbow Warrior ship."

What I immediately thought of:
"Third Place? This is the greatest injustice Germany has ever committed!"
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2013-09-27 09:12:13 AM
Wait until Russia learns that everyone aboard that ship was gay.
 
2013-09-27 09:13:55 AM
Two major issues here:

The Russian Coast Guard disrupted an attempt by the activists on Sept. 18 to scale the oil platform.

Yeah, horrible idea to begin with. You don't get to break maritime law.

"These detentions are like the Russian oil industry itself, a relic from an earlier era," Greenpeace International Executive Director Kumi Naidoo said in a statement. "Our peaceful activists are in prison tonight for shining a light on Gazprom's recklessness."

....aaaaaand way to double down. Your activists aren't getting out now, and I'm pretty sure that's what you want. Get your idiotic "message" across as the expense of other people's lives while you sit sipping coffee at a Starbucks.
 
2013-09-27 09:15:13 AM
Woot! Go Russia! Bout time somebody stopped letting those smelly hippies do that crap. Should have sunk their ship.
 
2013-09-27 09:15:53 AM

Carousel Beast: Two major issues here:

The Russian Coast Guard disrupted an attempt by the activists on Sept. 18 to scale the oil platform.

Yeah, horrible idea to begin with. You don't get to break maritime law.


Unless you're a nation state.
 
2013-09-27 09:17:16 AM
To be fair. Russia thought they were Peta chicks and just wanted to see boobies.
 
2013-09-27 09:17:37 AM

Kyosuke: Wait until Russia learns that everyone aboard that ship was gay.


and made a painting with Putin in it
 
2013-09-27 09:19:11 AM
I thought the point of civil disobedience was to go to jail.
 
2013-09-27 09:19:13 AM
The environment would be better served if the environmental movement weren't such idiots.

Useful, futile gestures only work in the movies.

This, and the destruction of the golden rice test-beds in the Philippines have me hoping that they get Pussy Riot-like sentences.
 
2013-09-27 09:20:42 AM
The crew of the "Rainbow Warrior' should be thankful that the Russians didn't simply shoot the hell out of their boat ans let them drown in the arctic waters.
 
2013-09-27 09:24:01 AM
Need those backwards somersaulting axe throwing guys to get some practice.
 
2013-09-27 09:24:45 AM
If Russia decides to bring back the Siberian Gulag, I have a good idea who some of the first prisoners will be.
 
2013-09-27 09:27:29 AM
These idiots would emit less carbon if they stayed home.

Or better yet, just died.
 
2013-09-27 09:38:33 AM

Mart Laar's beard shaver: The environment would be better served if the environmental movement weren't such idiots.

Useful, futile gestures only work in the movies.

This, and the destruction of the golden rice test-beds in the Philippines have me hoping that they get Pussy Riot-like sentences.


Yeah, stick it to the hippies...they're the ones doing all the economic damage, right?

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-07-01/bayer-to-pay-750-million-to -e nd-lawsuits-over-genetically-modified-rice.html
 
2013-09-27 09:42:41 AM

leevis: If Russia decides to bring back the Siberian Gulag, I have a good idea who some of the first prisoners will be.


Pussy Riot?
 
2013-09-27 09:43:49 AM
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Pollute on me, bros
 
2013-09-27 09:51:45 AM

PunGent: Mart Laar's beard shaver: The environment would be better served if the environmental movement weren't such idiots.

Useful, futile gestures only work in the movies.

This, and the destruction of the golden rice test-beds in the Philippines have me hoping that they get Pussy Riot-like sentences.

Yeah, stick it to the hippies...they're the ones doing all the economic damage, right?

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-07-01/bayer-to-pay-750-million-to -e nd-lawsuits-over-genetically-modified-rice.html



Since I live in the EU, and understand why this ruling was passed (although I disagree with GMO scaremongering), doesn't diminish my disrespect for Greenpeace. But the link you post is more a question of economics, than genetics, you understand that, right?

Right?
 
2013-09-27 09:52:58 AM
Do they really want to see what detentions that are a relic from an earlier era are like in Russia?
 
2013-09-27 10:00:32 AM
"These detentions are like the Russian oil industry itself, a relic from an earlier era," Greenpeace International Executive Director Kumi Naidoo said in a statement. "Our peaceful activists are in prison tonight for shining a light on Gazprom's recklessness."

They weren't arrested for shining lights.  They were arrested for boarding another vessel without permission.
 
2013-09-27 10:10:14 AM

Thunderpipes: Woot! Go Russia! Bout time somebody stopped letting those smelly hippies do that crap. Should have sunk their ship.


Sinking it would be less effective than giving the crew 24 hours to shut it down to cold iron and removing them from the ship. Leave it tied up to a pier for 6 to 12 months with no one on board. When a crew is finally allowed back on board Green Peace will find a rusted unusable hulk and they will be on the hook for docking fees and responsible for disposing of an asbestos contaminated ship in "an environmentally responsible manner". (Every older ship has some asbestos somewhere.)
 
2013-09-27 10:41:34 AM

Mart Laar's beard shaver: PunGent: Mart Laar's beard shaver: The environment would be better served if the environmental movement weren't such idiots.

Useful, futile gestures only work in the movies.

This, and the destruction of the golden rice test-beds in the Philippines have me hoping that they get Pussy Riot-like sentences.

Yeah, stick it to the hippies...they're the ones doing all the economic damage, right?

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-07-01/bayer-to-pay-750-million-to -e nd-lawsuits-over-genetically-modified-rice.html


Since I live in the EU, and understand why this ruling was passed (although I disagree with GMO scaremongering), doesn't diminish my disrespect for Greenpeace. But the link you post is more a question of economics, than genetics, you understand that, right?

Right?


You think there's a useful dividing line between economics and the genetics of GMO foods?

Where, exactly, do you think that line might be?

I ask because I own stocks in agribiz...I just don't see the need to pretend every product they make will benefit mankind exclusively, have absolutely no side effects whatsoever, and therefore need zero regulations.  That kind of hype is ludicrous, no matter which side you're on.
 
2013-09-27 10:43:52 AM
Several Russian media outlets including the country's private TV station, NTV, took all pictures off their websites in a show of solidarity with the jailed photographer.

ummmmm.....i don't think that's how you do it.
 
2013-09-27 11:40:45 AM
The original Reuters story I saw when this first happened said that the two Greenpeace activists who boarded the platform were detained and then returned to the ship.  Then the next day Russian security forces repelled down from helicopters and detained the vessel and crew.  Is that still the accepted version of events?

Does anyone know where the original thread for this is?  I was keeping an eye out for a greened headline on this story and I never saw one.
 
2013-09-27 11:54:02 AM
The best suggestion is that they get "punishment through tourism", that Putin give them to a Russian tourist agency, under FSB supervision, and for 2-3 years give them the grand tour of Russia, all 2,000,000 square miles of it.  Put them in nice hotels (when available), and Russian army field tents when not, feed them up on healthy Russian cuisine.  When they are all done, put them on a plane to Paris with one-way tickets.

Greenpeace would never, ever, ever bother Russia again.  Ever.  EVER.
 
2013-09-27 11:55:13 AM
so basically WAAAA we didnt any real risk while pretending to be these great ecowarriors.
 
2013-09-27 03:17:22 PM

PunGent: Mart Laar's beard shaver: PunGent: Mart Laar's beard shaver: The environment would be better served if the environmental movement weren't such idiots.

Useful, futile gestures only work in the movies.

This, and the destruction of the golden rice test-beds in the Philippines have me hoping that they get Pussy Riot-like sentences.

Yeah, stick it to the hippies...they're the ones doing all the economic damage, right?

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-07-01/bayer-to-pay-750-million-to -e nd-lawsuits-over-genetically-modified-rice.html


Since I live in the EU, and understand why this ruling was passed (although I disagree with GMO scaremongering), doesn't diminish my disrespect for Greenpeace. But the link you post is more a question of economics, than genetics, you understand that, right?

Right?

You think there's a useful dividing line between economics and the genetics of GMO foods?

Where, exactly, do you think that line might be?

I ask because I own stocks in agribiz...I just don't see the need to pretend every product they make will benefit mankind exclusively, have absolutely no side effects whatsoever, and therefore need zero regulations.  That kind of hype is ludicrous, no matter which side you're on.


But that's not what your linked article said. The crops were unusable due to the EU's draconian GMO laws. That's literally the only reason that export was stopped and futures fell in price.
 
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