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(Deadline)   NBC lands David Goyer's adaptation of DC's Constantine   (deadline.com) divider line 55
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2013-09-26 11:57:14 PM  
I doubt any actor as Constantine could live up to Keanu Reeve's performance.
 
2013-09-27 12:01:38 AM  
Let me guess: he's going to be an American again. And probably one that doesn't even smoke.


DC Comics' John Constantine stories, has sold to NBC with penalty.

WTF does that mean?


simplicimus: I doubt any actor as Constantine could live up to Keanu Reeve's performance.


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2013-09-27 12:09:50 AM  
Anything has to be better than the last round of Constantine on film. Don't get me wrong, it's not hate on Keanu, but if this is riffing off Arrow, I might be in.

So long as they cast a f*cking Brit. Seriously. WTF Lawrence. WTF?

Tilda Swinton, Peter Stormare, even Rachel Weisz get a pass on the film, because they showed up and did their job, but Lawrence cast Keanu motherf*cking Reeves as Constantine? For cereal? Garth Ennis and Jaimie Delano get a pass on this, since the studio handed the screenplay over to the guy who did The Glimmer Man and the guy who gave us Suburban Commando, and then handed the director slot to a guy who directed Britney Spears videos previously--and in fairness, that he's been handed the Hunger Games sequels doesn't exactly fill me with confidence...
 
2013-09-27 12:11:05 AM  

fusillade762: Let me guess: he's going to be an American again. And probably one that doesn't even smoke.


DC Comics' John Constantine stories, has sold to NBC with penalty.

WTF does that mean?


Well, it could mean one of two things:a) use it or lose it, or b) do not screw with the character.
 
2013-09-27 03:45:33 AM  

fusillade762: DC Comics' John Constantine stories, has sold to NBC with penalty.

WTF does that mean?


Basically, there will be a substantial financial consequence if this doesn't hit the air.
 
2013-09-27 04:41:07 AM  
I threw up in my soul a little.
 
2013-09-27 05:05:38 AM  

hubiestubert: but Lawrence cast Keanu motherf*cking Reeves as Constantine?


In all fairness, while that was A problem with the film, it wasn't THE problem with the film.

THE problem was that they made Constantine a devoutly Catholic ex-priest on a lifelong quest for redemption.  While that's not necessarily a bad story, there is no part of that sentence that's legally allowed within 100 yards of a Hellblazer book.

The whole point of the character was that he used to be a mostly-homeless drunken roustabout with a penchant for pulling stupid pranks, petty crime, and black magic for the hell of it as a kid... and years of accumulated power and contact with the divine never changed any of that.
 
2013-09-27 05:08:19 AM  

Jim_Callahan: While that's not necessarily a bad story, there is no part of that sentence that's legally allowed within 100 yards of a Hellblazer book.


This bears repeating.
 
2013-09-27 06:19:14 AM  

Jim_Callahan: hubiestubert: but Lawrence cast Keanu motherf*cking Reeves as Constantine?

In all fairness, while that was A problem with the film, it wasn't THE problem with the film.

THE problem was that they made Constantine a devoutly Catholic ex-priest on a lifelong quest for redemption.  While that's not necessarily a bad story, there is no part of that sentence that's legally allowed within 100 yards of a Hellblazer book.

The whole point of the character was that he used to be a mostly-homeless drunken roustabout with a penchant for pulling stupid pranks, petty crime, and black magic for the hell of it as a kid... and years of accumulated power and contact with the divine never changed any of that.


Yep. About the only way they could rescue that "redemption" storyline from the film is if they reveal that John was actually pulling a con, so he could get to heaven, kick god in the nuts and stub a cigarette out in his eye.
 
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2013-09-27 06:19:35 AM  
I was big into Bush back in the day so I was amused when Gavin Rossdale showed up as a villain in Keanu's Constantine. Anyways, I can't get into Arrow and the Flash as a character never interested me, but this Constantine show might have some promise. If it turns out good, maybe a watchable version of Dresden Files might appear.
 
2013-09-27 06:33:22 AM  
Jim_Callahan:THE problem was that they made Constantine a devoutly Catholic ex-priest on a lifelong quest for redemption.  While that's not necessarily a bad story, there is no part of that sentence that's legally allowed within 100 yards of a Hellblazer book.


I never read it, so I cant judge differences...

... but, I never saw Constantine as ever being a priest... or being Catholic.
 
2013-09-27 06:54:40 AM  

fusillade762: Let me guess: he's going to be an American again. And probably one that doesn't even smoke.


Given that non-American leads in American shows are really not that uncommon in network television these days, (for example: The Originals on CW, Sleepy Hollow on Fox, Elementary on CBS, Dracula on NBC, Once Upon a Time in Wonderland on ABC all have non-American/non-Canadian leads who use their original accent. ), I don't see why he has to be American. He probably won't be. But most likelihood the show will be set in the US with all of the Americans giving him grief for smoking like a chimney.
 
2013-09-27 07:16:12 AM  
I've got a soft spot for the film

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2013-09-27 07:20:21 AM  
How this news makes me feel:

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2013-09-27 07:32:32 AM  

WippitGuud: Jim_Callahan:THE problem was that they made Constantine a devoutly Catholic ex-priest on a lifelong quest for redemption.  While that's not necessarily a bad story, there is no part of that sentence that's legally allowed within 100 yards of a Hellblazer book.


I never read it, so I cant judge differences...

... but, I never saw Constantine as ever being a priest... or being Catholic.


I thought it mentioned him being catholic as he apparently regularly went to a Catholic Church. Might be occupational though.

And from the description of some of the people in the thread, I think I like the 'scared straight but farked anyway' bitter but ultimately good version of the character than the version they're describing from the comics (that I never read, so thread comments are my only basis). It actually seems deeper than just a 'prankster with an attitude'.

Plus you got to see Shia Le'Beuf die. How can that be bad?
 
2013-09-27 07:34:38 AM  
I liked the movie.  It wasn't that bad.  I think if studios would just give movies original names, rather than give them the names of established titles from other media, people would like them more.  Half the hatred of this movie is because it was in no way faithful to the comics, so the fanbois went nuts.  I saw the movie before reading them, so I liked the movie, and only later was annoyed because it in no way followed the real story.
 
2013-09-27 07:37:48 AM  

Deneb81: WippitGuud: Jim_Callahan:THE problem was that they made Constantine a devoutly Catholic ex-priest on a lifelong quest for redemption.  While that's not necessarily a bad story, there is no part of that sentence that's legally allowed within 100 yards of a Hellblazer book.


I never read it, so I cant judge differences...

... but, I never saw Constantine as ever being a priest... or being Catholic.

I thought it mentioned him being catholic as he apparently regularly went to a Catholic Church. Might be occupational though.

And from the description of some of the people in the thread, I think I like the 'scared straight but farked anyway' bitter but ultimately good version of the character than the version they're describing from the comics (that I never read, so thread comments are my only basis). It actually seems deeper than just a 'prankster with an attitude'.

Plus you got to see Shia Le'Beuf die. How can that be bad?


Yeah, I thought the angle that he couldn't go to heaven because he KNEW God existed, rather than having FAITH was pretty cool.  And Peter Stormare was a great Satan.
 
2013-09-27 07:47:16 AM  
Well you knew this was coming...once they cancelled the Vertigo Hellblazer and integrated a comic book hero/antihero version of him full time in the main DC universe...you knew it was coming.

I didn't have too much of a problem with the movie.  It was ok.  My wife surprisingly liked it.    Since the whole "Brightest Day" event, they've softened the character up so he fits in with the other superheros.
 
2013-09-27 07:47:59 AM  
an ex girlfriend of mine used to get really hot when i would hellblazer comics to her in bed. seriously. even i couldn't believe it. i read them in a British accent.
 
2013-09-27 08:00:37 AM  
So DC is going to have arrow with the superpowered black canary and guest flash, a flash series, a Jim Gordon series, and now a magic based Constantine.

Meanwhile marvel sits in a corner crying and says they have two annoying Brit scientists and a super hacker chick.
 
2013-09-27 08:01:55 AM  

dai the flu: I've got a soft spot for the film

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Say what you want about the film but the Angels (Fallen included) were fantastic.
 
2013-09-27 08:09:40 AM  

Aristocles: hammer85: and guest flash, a flash series, a Jim Gordon series

A Flash Gordon series?


Lol that would be an interesting team up.

I just wonder how or if they'll link up. I doubt the Gordon one would be tied to anything since it's pre-batman, but Constantine can be the jumping on point for a ton of characters, most notably justice league dark which pacific rim guy wants to do.

Hell, I'd pay to see Constantine + shazam team up.
 
2013-09-27 08:12:47 AM  

hammer85: So DC is going to have arrow with the superpowered black canary and guest flash, a flash series, a Jim Gordon series, and now a magic based Constantine.

Meanwhile marvel sits in a corner crying and says they have two annoying Brit scientists and a super hacker chick.


Marvel rules the movies and DC rules television.  Given how the comics are written for each of those universes, I can see that. DC comics lend themselves better in serial television form. For example, a television series for Gotham Central would make more sense than a singular movie given the source material. However, Marvel lends itself better to the movie form. Like the current Hawkeye comic would make a great action film but I can not see it working well as a week after week television show.

Now if we can get a television show based on the current run of Wonder Woman (as produced by Sam Raimi) and a movie based on the current run of Gambit, I will be a happy fangirl.
 
2013-09-27 08:18:23 AM  

devildog123: Yeah, I thought the angle that he couldn't go to heaven because he KNEW God existed, rather than having FAITH was pretty cool.  And Peter Stormare was a great Satan.


"You are going to die young because you smoked 30 cigarettes a day since you were 15... and you're going to go to hell because of the life you took."

He couldn't go to heaven because he killed himself. he just happened to be brought back.
 
2013-09-27 08:22:16 AM  

mekki: hammer85: So DC is going to have arrow with the superpowered black canary and guest flash, a flash series, a Jim Gordon series, and now a magic based Constantine.

Meanwhile marvel sits in a corner crying and says they have two annoying Brit scientists and a super hacker chick.

Marvel rules the movies and DC rules television.  Given how the comics are written for each of those universes, I can see that. DC comics lend themselves better in serial television form. For example, a television series for Gotham Central would make more sense than a singular movie given the source material. However, Marvel lends itself better to the movie form. Like the current Hawkeye comic would make a great action film but I can not see it working well as a week after week television show.

Now if we can get a television show based on the current run of Wonder Woman (as produced by Sam Raimi) and a movie based on the current run of Gambit, I will be a happy fangirl.


The current hawkeye comic needs to come out with a new one already. It's been almost 3 months already.

And I don't see why marvel can't do tv, they just don't seem to care. Even their animation is lacking, and that includes the animated movie.

Maybe cause I'm older I prefer the atmosphere and darker tone of the DC shows like arrow, young justice, and GL:tas over the haha 30 minutes of sarcastic wit marvel seems to churning out with Spider-Man and agents of shield...but that doesn't explain how teen titans go is one of my favorite shows because it's farking hilarious. It destroys anything marvel is doing on the small screen.

When they did the dodgeball song to the old teen titans theme song I about lost it.

And wolverine vs the hulk vs flashpoint paradox made me remember why I don't pick up marvel animated movies. Holy shiat that was terrible.
 
2013-09-27 08:29:54 AM  

Jim_Callahan: THE problem was that they made Constantine a devoutly Catholic ex-priest on a lifelong quest for redemption. While that's not necessarily a bad story, there is no part of that sentence that's legally allowed within 100 yards of a Hellblazer book.

The whole point of the character was that he used to be a mostly-homeless drunken roustabout with a penchant for pulling stupid pranks, petty crime, and black magic for the hell of it as a kid... and years of accumulated power and contact with the divine never changed any of that.


Unfortunately penning this to a script would require a series of movies explaining things out in detail lest we would get shiatty flashback montages that would detract from the pacing of the movie and likely would appear stilted.

So I can see why they wrote it the way they did, and yet also appreciate why some would be dissapointed.

You have to give props to Stomare as the Devil though, that was perfect farking casting.
 
2013-09-27 08:48:56 AM  

WippitGuud: devildog123: Yeah, I thought the angle that he couldn't go to heaven because he KNEW God existed, rather than having FAITH was pretty cool.  And Peter Stormare was a great Satan.

"You are going to die young because you smoked 30 cigarettes a day since you were 15... and you're going to go to hell because of the life you took."

He couldn't go to heaven because he killed himself. he just happened to be brought back.


I thought that at one point though he was arguing with Gabriel and said something about how he had faith, and that was all you were supposed to need, and Gabriel said something about how he didn't have faith, he knew, and that was different.
 
2013-09-27 09:11:05 AM  
So I've taken to referring to the Keanu Reeves character as John Istanbul, because while he's a decent character in his own right -and decently played, even- he is clearly not John Constantine. I refer to the New52 version as John Byzantine for similar reasons. But for crying out loud, with NBC making their own version, I'm starting to have to scrape the bottom of the barrel for new mocking names? What, should I call this one "John Augusta-Antonia" or something? "John Lygos"? Those don't even have the same syllabic structure.

Stop mutilating the character, folks.
 
2013-09-27 09:15:49 AM  
I would give anything to rather see a cable station produce a "Preacher" series.
 
2013-09-27 09:21:35 AM  
Translation:  they saw the numbers for AGENT OF SHIELD and thought 'Oh shiat!'.
 
2013-09-27 09:49:22 AM  
He was portrayed by in the 2005 feature Constantine and is rumored to be featured in the Justice League Dark feature Warner Bros feature Warner Bros. has in the works with Guillermo del Toro.

Rumored? The book has been around for two years. He's the de facto leader and manipulator of the non-team. A Justice League Dark film, whether you like the book or not, requires John Constantine. YOU CAN farkING CHECK THESE THINGS.

And a Hellblazer series really needs a BBC or Sky production. Not NBC.

And Goyer is a Russian Roulette of comic book screenwriting. Yes, he did The Dark Knight, Blade, and Watchmen. He also did Blade: Trinity, Man of Steel, and the Nick Fury TV movie with David Hasselhoff.
 
2013-09-27 09:49:30 AM  

skinink: I would give anything to rather see a cable station produce a "Preacher" series.


You say that now, but when some former game show(i.e. "reality" show) contestant gets cast as Bill Hicks...
 
2013-09-27 09:49:53 AM  
If they don't cast James Marsters in the lead role there's something very wrong with them.
 
2013-09-27 09:51:13 AM  

Snapper Carr: If they don't cast James Marsters in the lead role there's something very wrong with them.


I know he was awesome as Spike and in Torchwood, but... he's from California.
 
2013-09-27 09:58:23 AM  

fusillade762: DC Comics' John Constantine stories, has sold to NBC with penalty.

WTF does that mean?


Depending on the exact nature of the contract, either the pilot, or the series itself, must be picked up or NBC will have to pay the producers a very large sum of money.
 
2013-09-27 10:02:42 AM  

Skr: I was big into Bush back in the day so I was amused when Gavin Rossdale showed up as a villain in Keanu's Constantine. Anyways, I can't get into Arrow and the Flash as a character never interested me, but this Constantine show might have some promise. If it turns out good, maybe a watchable version of Dresden Files might appear.


For all the complaints about the story and Keanu, Gavin Rossdale was the worst part of that film.  I cringe every time I see him pull the "finger-lickin' good" bit.

I wasn't up on Constantine when the movie hit, so I didn't have any nitpick ammo.  As a film, overall, it isn't bad.  Even after I read through the comics, I'm going to enjoy it.  Peter Stormare and Tilda Swinton were too good.
 
2013-09-27 10:13:02 AM  

Zombie Eater: Skr: I was big into Bush back in the day so I was amused when Gavin Rossdale showed up as a villain in Keanu's Constantine. Anyways, I can't get into Arrow and the Flash as a character never interested me, but this Constantine show might have some promise. If it turns out good, maybe a watchable version of Dresden Files might appear.

For all the complaints about the story and Keanu, Gavin Rossdale was the worst part of that film.  I cringe every time I see him pull the "finger-lickin' good" bit.

I wasn't up on Constantine when the movie hit, so I didn't have any nitpick ammo.  As a film, overall, it isn't bad.  Even after I read through the comics, I'm going to enjoy it.  Peter Stormare and Tilda Swinton were too good.


Honestly, the acting, writing, and effects were all very good, Even Keanu did what he could with what he had. The problem is any Hellblazer fan will ignore these things because their brains are screaming too loud "JOHN CONSTANTINE ISN'T FROM LOS ANGELES!"
 
2013-09-27 10:42:01 AM  

simplicimus: I doubt any actor as Constantine could live up to Keanu Reeve's performance.


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2013-09-27 10:49:04 AM  

Deneb81: WippitGuud: Jim_Callahan:THE problem was that they made Constantine a devoutly Catholic ex-priest on a lifelong quest for redemption.  While that's not necessarily a bad story, there is no part of that sentence that's legally allowed within 100 yards of a Hellblazer book.


I never read it, so I cant judge differences...

... but, I never saw Constantine as ever being a priest... or being Catholic.

I thought it mentioned him being catholic as he apparently regularly went to a Catholic Church. Might be occupational though.

And from the description of some of the people in the thread, I think I like the 'scared straight but farked anyway' bitter but ultimately good version of the character than the version they're describing from the comics (that I never read, so thread comments are my only basis). It actually seems deeper than just a 'prankster with an attitude'.

Plus you got to see Shia Le'Beuf die. How can that be bad?



This last bit prompted me to scour GIS for a gif of that death scene on a loop (twould have been glorious to see him repeatedly slamming between the ceiling and ground), unfortunately no luck...internet I am disappoint.
 
2013-09-27 11:00:23 AM  

Snapper Carr: If they don't cast James Marsters in the lead role there's something very wrong with them.


Negatory. John Constantine is the English guy that was in The Replacements with Keanu.

PERIOD.
 
2013-09-27 11:05:34 AM  

AdrienVeidt: Negatory. John Constantine is the English guy that was in The Replacements with Keanu.


You seriously need to do your homework on your 80s bands.
 
2013-09-27 11:08:28 AM  
Taken utterly on its own, Constantine wasn't a terrible flick.  Stormare and Swinton do an amazing job.  It simply wasn't an adaptation of anything, though.  It was like saying 'Star Wars' was inspired by, I don't know, the Armenian genocide.  It resembled almost nothing of its source material.  So, like Starship Troopers.  Which is also pretty good, taken on its own.
 
2013-09-27 11:12:49 AM  

EyeballKid: AdrienVeidt: Negatory. John Constantine is the English guy that was in The Replacements with Keanu.

You seriously need to do your homework on your 80s bands.


Heh. Too bad that's how memorable that movie is, lol. But seriously, that dude essentially was John if he gave up the magic and played American HandEgg.
 
2013-09-27 11:57:52 AM  

simplicimus: I doubt any actor as Constantine could live up to Keanu Reeve's performance.


That not a real high bar to climb...
 
2013-09-27 01:15:31 PM  

AdrienVeidt: EyeballKid: AdrienVeidt: Negatory. John Constantine is the English guy that was in The Replacements with Keanu.

You seriously need to do your homework on your 80s bands.

Heh. Too bad that's how memorable that movie is, lol. But seriously, that dude essentially was John if he gave up the magic and played American HandEgg.


Good call. Though someone would complain as I think he's Welsh.
 
2013-09-27 04:34:33 PM  

guestguy: simplicimus: I doubt any actor as Constantine could live up to Keanu Reeve's performance.

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That's unfair. Keanu Reeves is able to act the full gamut of human emotion and experience from A to A.
 
2013-09-27 04:46:23 PM  

Silly_Sot: guestguy: simplicimus: I doubt any actor as Constantine could live up to Keanu Reeve's performance.

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That's unfair. Keanu Reeves is able to act the full gamut of human emotion and experience from A to A.


To be fair to Keanu (which I seldom am) he did OK in The Devil's Advocate. But he was acting with Pacino, which I guess forced him to try to rise to the occasion.
 
2013-09-27 05:40:06 PM  
I liked Constantine and even own it. And the reason I like it is because I had no idea about the comic book. For me, it was just a movie about Neo the demon hunter. Now, after reading the comic, I can see why people didn't like that version. However, if you pretend that this isn't that Constantine, but some other completely different guy who is ALSO named Constantine, then it's not so bad.

I still absolutely love the scene between him and the devil. It's a great moment.
 
2013-09-27 05:42:23 PM  

Snapper Carr: If they don't cast James Marsters in the lead role there's something very wrong with them.


I take it you haven't seen him lately.
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Not that it's a dealbreaker for me. In Hellblazer he aged in real time and was well into his 50s. But between DC and NBC I don't see them going for an older lead.

/They probably won't even let him smoke.
 
2013-09-27 06:33:08 PM  

skinink: I would give anything to rather see a cable station produce a "Preacher" series.


That would be worth it just to see the fundy heads explode at the ending.
 
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