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2013-09-26 10:42:16 AM
At least there isn't shiat on the floor.... is there?
 
2013-09-26 10:46:09 AM
This is how.

img.gawkerassets.com
 
2013-09-26 12:51:02 PM

R.A.Danny: At least there isn't shiat on the floor.... is there?


The wife and I saw a house a while back that had been foreclosed, the bank never bothered to *install* a door handle, and there was not one previously. Seems like wandering folk had come in and had been using the bathroom while the water was shut off.

First time I had ever seen something I would describe as a "mound of insects".

I don't think they cared too much about that property.
 
2013-09-26 01:00:55 PM

Fubini: R.A.Danny: At least there isn't shiat on the floor.... is there?

The wife and I saw a house a while back that had been foreclosed, the bank never bothered to *install* a door handle, and there was not one previously. Seems like wandering folk had come in and had been using the bathroom while the water was shut off.

First time I had ever seen something I would describe as a "mound of insects".

I don't think they cared too much about that property.


In my area that would go for $1.2 Million with multiple offers.
 
M-G
2013-09-26 01:43:54 PM
If you want to see all the pics without signing up for some agent's mailing list, you can look here:

http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/413-S-Whispering-Hi ll s-Dr_Naperville_IL_60540_M75684-81717

It's a short sale.  They current owners aren't going to put much effort in it.  And it's just cluttered, unless I missed something.
 
2013-09-26 01:48:13 PM
Sign up to see all 13 images?

www.staffingrobot.com
 
2013-09-26 01:52:36 PM
Looks lived in. If anything is actually gross, rather than just unkempt, I'm not seeing it. Of course, they didn't take any photos of the bathrooms.......

M-G: If you want to see all the pics without signing up for some agent's mailing list, you can look here:

http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/413-S-Whispering-Hi ll s-Dr_Naperville_IL_60540_M75684-81717


Thank you.

I didn't think anyone in Naperville would still have a wood-cabinet standard def projection TV in their family room. That thing has to be 20 years old.
 
2013-09-26 01:53:10 PM
Dude, one of our agents found a child's skeleton at a property. That wasn't bad.

/property preservation stories. They are fun.
 
2013-09-26 01:53:38 PM
What the hell is a gallery kitchen?
 
2013-09-26 01:59:04 PM

Calmamity: What the hell is a gallery kitchen?


Maybe his spell check didn't have "galley" in it. :) If you're really asking, it's one of those stupid designs where the kitchen is basically a hallway with appliances on both sides, and you walk through it to get from the family room to the dining room. It's great for entertaining because it forces your guests to actually sit in the living room instead of congregating in the kitchen and getting in the hostess' way as she's trying to prepare dinner.
 
RJB
2013-09-26 02:00:09 PM
Last year, my wife and I shopped a lot of short sales. Messes like these are par for the course, at least for showings. Rare to see it in the pictures - I'd expect at least a little cleanup, or no pictures at all. The owners are presumably living for free and have no incentive to hurry the sale.

A highlight of our shopping was the house for which the owners insisted on being present, with an AM radio blasting Rush Limbaugh, and a note on the radio saying not to touch it. It was the sort of volume that would have been uncomfortable even if you liked what Rush had to say.
 
2013-09-26 02:06:36 PM
That wasn't so bad.  My place would look like that if I lived alone.
 
2013-09-26 02:10:28 PM
thebuzzmedia.com
 
2013-09-26 02:11:22 PM
When I first started looking for houses, I went to one that was used to house college kids. Now, I that I was looking around Tufts, and I knew that this place in particular was a rental property.

The kid on the couch had JUST put is joint out, there was a PILE of garbage in the kitchen, filthy laundry in the bathroom, and my favorite- a slice of pizza on an unmade bed.

I asked- neither the pizza nor the bed belonged to the stoned kid on the couch. Someone had left the house for the day, and apparently anticipated needing a snack when he got home.

I won't even talk about the place where they had containers of cat shiat everywhere and a room the realtor refused to go into- called "the ferret room"/
 
2013-09-26 02:12:23 PM
p.rdcpix.com

Stripper pole!
 
2013-09-26 02:17:18 PM
I'm glad when I was house shopping in 2009, there were so many completely empty REOs for sale that I didn't even bother looking at short sales.  Now, that's not the case.
 
2013-09-26 02:21:03 PM
This is how right here:

a0.vsoh.com
 
2013-09-26 02:22:37 PM
Despite 90% of houses being all staged and granited-out, there are still some "see the potential" houses around.  The kids who bought my childhood house from me got a deal on that basis.  I'd been spending every weekend for six months driving 200 miles away and dealing with my dad's "almost to TV show level" hoarding.  So, 99% of the stuff was out.  But, I was just done dealing. Grief, seeing my childhood house bare, etc.

So, for the right price the deal was, "See that sticky kitchen cabinet, hole in the dining room wall, weird floor residue (after I pulled the carpets out), smoker-stained curtains, and the rusted RV in the back yard that I can't get started? You just bought it all! Bye bye!".
 
2013-09-26 02:27:13 PM

Lawnchair: Despite 90% of houses being all staged and granited-out, there are still some "see the potential" houses around.  The kids who bought my childhood house from me got a deal on that basis.  I'd been spending every weekend for six months driving 200 miles away and dealing with my dad's "almost to TV show level" hoarding.  So, 99% of the stuff was out.  But, I was just done dealing. Grief, seeing my childhood house bare, etc.

So, for the right price the deal was, "See that sticky kitchen cabinet, hole in the dining room wall, weird floor residue (after I pulled the carpets out), smoker-stained curtains, and the rusted RV in the back yard that I can't get started? You just bought it all! Bye bye!".


My ex and I had a tiff about the paint color of a potential house. She could not get past the admittedly horrid colors the seller used. It's just friggin' paint, and the house was a good $30,000 under market. She was having none of it.
 
2013-09-26 02:33:11 PM
Looking for housing here in PA can be a nightmare.  Basically it is a choice between overpriced crappy new housing, or houses that might not have doors/windows/etc and have been abandoned for years.  We found one listed last week that didn't have heat in it, the guy was trying to sell it on the sly because it would never pass inspection.

Lots of places over the border in NJ will try to tell you that they have a new septic system installed, when really it is the old cesspools.  In NJ you can't sell a house that has a cesspool, but that doesn't stop them from trying.  Same goes for buried oil tanks.

Not to mention the places that had skunks living in the house, dog shiat all over the floor, or foundations that looked like they could cave in at any moment.
 
2013-09-26 02:34:31 PM

R.A.Danny: Lawnchair: Despite 90% of houses being all staged and granited-out, there are still some "see the potential" houses around.  The kids who bought my childhood house from me got a deal on that basis.  I'd been spending every weekend for six months driving 200 miles away and dealing with my dad's "almost to TV show level" hoarding.  So, 99% of the stuff was out.  But, I was just done dealing. Grief, seeing my childhood house bare, etc.

So, for the right price the deal was, "See that sticky kitchen cabinet, hole in the dining room wall, weird floor residue (after I pulled the carpets out), smoker-stained curtains, and the rusted RV in the back yard that I can't get started? You just bought it all! Bye bye!".

My ex and I had a tiff about the paint color of a potential house. She could not get past the admittedly horrid colors the seller used. It's just friggin' paint, and the house was a good $30,000 under market. She was having none of it.


Yeah, working property preservation and learning about cars fixed that in me. I used to be a rich biatch snob who thought any car older than 3 yrs old was a POS. Now, I won't buy anything newer than 94. Helps when you learn what is actually important (like ID'ing mold and foundation cracks behind that ugly ass paint job).
 
2013-09-26 02:39:46 PM

Famous Thamas: Looking for housing here in PA can be a nightmare.  Basically it is a choice between overpriced crappy new housing, or houses that might not have doors/windows/etc and have been abandoned for years.


I bought near Philadelphia early last year and I can verify this, but you left out houses that are priced up because of their "additions" that turn out to be falling down, leaky-roofed, electric-heated pieces of 70s shiat.
 
2013-09-26 02:47:13 PM

Peki: Yeah, working property preservation and learning about cars fixed that in me. I used to be a rich biatch snob who thought any car older than 3 yrs old was a POS. Now, I won't buy anything newer than 94. Helps when you learn what is actually important (like ID'ing mold and foundation cracks behind that ugly ass paint job).


Yeah, the house in question was a creampuff. The owner was the one that had it built, and he was meticulous with upkeep and maintenance. He just had horrible taste in paint, or he let his (grown at the time) kids choose the colors for their rooms when they were little. Purple, Pink, and Brown... Yikes.
 
2013-09-26 02:54:23 PM
$229,900.  Almost a quarter of a million dollars.

I thought the bubble had burst.
 
2013-09-26 02:55:22 PM

Githerax: $229,900.  Almost a quarter of a million dollars.

I thought the bubble had burst.


That is dirt cheap in Naperville.
 
RJB
2013-09-26 03:07:38 PM

Githerax: $229,900.  Almost a quarter of a million dollars.

I thought the bubble had burst.


It's in a pleasant, stereotypical suburb. Safe streets, good schools. Plenty of jobs nearby, plus a train connection to downtown Chicago. That's a great deal if the house's only issue is that it needs cleaning.
 
2013-09-26 03:07:44 PM

R.A.Danny: Githerax: $229,900.  Almost a quarter of a million dollars.

I thought the bubble had burst.

That is dirt cheap in Naperville.


And for $222,000 less, you can have this...thing...in Reading, Pennsylvania.
 
2013-09-26 03:10:04 PM
When I was house hunting I was shown a lot of houses that day laborers had been living in. Every room except the bathroom and kitchen were bedrooms and the basement had been turned into these sleeping cubicles. Drywall had been put up with a little framing, most of the cubes had sheets across them, some of the fancy ones had doors.

Another house I looked at had beautiful hardwood floors excet for the 1000+ screws drilled into them.
 
2013-09-26 03:17:35 PM

YixilTesiphon: R.A.Danny: Githerax: $229,900.  Almost a quarter of a million dollars.

I thought the bubble had burst.

That is dirt cheap in Naperville.

And for $222,000 less, you can have this...thing...in Reading, Pennsylvania.


I don't know anything about the neighborhood, but that building looks like a bunker, it can be rehabbed and sold for a tidy profit given that anything sells around there at all.
 
2013-09-26 03:25:52 PM

Githerax: $229,900.  Almost a quarter of a million dollars.

I thought the bubble had burst.


The house next to me sold for $230000 and was promptly torn down. Its all about the market.
 
2013-09-26 03:35:51 PM

Fubini: R.A.Danny: At least there isn't shiat on the floor.... is there?

The wife and I saw a house a while back that had been foreclosed, the bank never bothered to *install* a door handle, and there was not one previously. Seems like wandering folk had come in and had been using the bathroom while the water was shut off.

First time I had ever seen something I would describe as a "mound of insects".

I don't think they cared too much about that property.


Went to see a house a few years back that had caught my eye because we'd driven by it several time and then saw it for sale.  The price was right (135,000 for a house that last sold for $435,000 3 years ago)  the yard was spectacualy landscaped and immaculate, it even had a huge work shed with AC and power installed.  The house was beautiful old brick construction and 4 stories.  We were totaly sold-until they opened the door.   I still can;t exactly describe the smell, but every wall in the interior of that house was covered in (what I HOPE) was dog feces or something very similar.    After spending some time inside I came to the conclusion that scrubbing was going to cut it and I'd have to do, at a minimum, a full interiro drywall replacement.
 
2013-09-26 03:38:20 PM
1080 sq ft, and 3 bedrooms?

That seems a bit tight.
 
2013-09-26 03:42:04 PM

YixilTesiphon: R.A.Danny: Githerax: $229,900.  Almost a quarter of a million dollars.

I thought the bubble had burst.

That is dirt cheap in Naperville.

And for $222,000 less, you can have this...thing...in Reading, Pennsylvania.


I'm curious what work they did to it to justify jacking up the price by almost 8x.
 
2013-09-26 03:43:21 PM

Magorn: Fubini: R.A.Danny: At least there isn't shiat on the floor.... is there?

The wife and I saw a house a while back that had been foreclosed, the bank never bothered to *install* a door handle, and there was not one previously. Seems like wandering folk had come in and had been using the bathroom while the water was shut off.

First time I had ever seen something I would describe as a "mound of insects".

I don't think they cared too much about that property.

Went to see a house a few years back that had caught my eye because we'd driven by it several time and then saw it for sale.  The price was right (135,000 for a house that last sold for $435,000 3 years ago)  the yard was spectacualy landscaped and immaculate, it even had a huge work shed with AC and power installed.  The house was beautiful old brick construction and 4 stories.  We were totaly sold-until they opened the door.   I still can;t exactly describe the smell, but every wall in the interior of that house was covered in (what I HOPE) was dog feces or something very similar.    After spending some time inside I came to the conclusion that scrubbing was going to cut it and I'd have to do, at a minimum, a full interiro drywall replacement.


The word is "jumentous".

China White Tea: 1080 sq ft, and 3 bedrooms?

That seems a bit tight.


The listing I linked upthread claims 4 beds, 1.5 baths in 678 square feet.

"This seems like a good place for a powder room" - ???
 
2013-09-26 03:44:33 PM

GoodyearPimp: YixilTesiphon: R.A.Danny: Githerax: $229,900.  Almost a quarter of a million dollars.

I thought the bubble had burst.

That is dirt cheap in Naperville.

And for $222,000 less, you can have this...thing...in Reading, Pennsylvania.

I'm curious what work they did to it to justify jacking up the price by almost 8x.


I'm curious how it ends up as a short sale.
 
2013-09-26 03:51:20 PM

YixilTesiphon: China White Tea: 1080 sq ft, and 3 bedrooms?

That seems a bit tight.

The listing I linked upthread claims 4 beds, 1.5 baths in 678 square feet.


The strange world of listing numbers.  You can't count sub-grade/basement space as square footage.  But you can count the beds and baths (that conform).  Fully decked-out basements get dinged pretty badly in value.
 
2013-09-26 04:00:39 PM
It's called "marking my territory", and I'll do it in every place I live. You just TRY to stop me...
 
2013-09-26 04:02:35 PM

Lawnchair


The strange world of listing numbers. You can't count sub-grade/basement space as square footage. ... Fully decked-out basements get dinged pretty badly in value.


Only if they do not have their own exterior doors. As I understand it, if the basement is fully finished, has ductwork for HVAC, and has a door to the outside then the square footage of the finished area can be added to the total of the house.
 
M-G
2013-09-26 04:10:25 PM

YixilTesiphon: GoodyearPimp: YixilTesiphon: R.A.Danny: Githerax: $229,900.  Almost a quarter of a million dollars.

I thought the bubble had burst.

That is dirt cheap in Naperville.

And for $222,000 less, you can have this...thing...in Reading, Pennsylvania.

I'm curious what work they did to it to justify jacking up the price by almost 8x.

I'm curious how it ends up as a short sale.


I'd guess that there was a rehab loan involved.
 
2013-09-26 04:23:57 PM

China White Tea: 1080 sq ft, and 3 bedrooms?

That seems a bit tight.


My parents' house is a 900 sq ft ranch with three bedrooms. (I didn't grow up there, they downsized after all the kids were out.) The bedrooms are about 14x14, 10x10 and 12x9 and they all have closets. Big living room, midsize kitchen and a little bathroom. This is how starter houses were in the early '60s.
 
2013-09-26 04:25:18 PM
Mrs. Angus and I just started house shopping, so I'd be getting a kick out of these replies... if I weren't contemplating hanging myself in the closet of one of these overpriced shiatholes just to spite the out-of-their mind sellers.

/whew
 
2013-09-26 04:27:08 PM

Englebert Slaptyback: Lawnchair

The strange world of listing numbers. You can't count sub-grade/basement space as square footage. ... Fully decked-out basements get dinged pretty badly in value.


Only if they do not have their own exterior doors. As I understand it, if the basement is fully finished, has ductwork for HVAC, and has a door to the outside then the square footage of the finished area can be added to the total of the house.


Pretty sure building codes vary by location. Here in Vegas, a lot of people turn their patio or garage into a bedroom, or whatever. If you pull building permits with the city/county, you can count that as "livable space". So if you have a 1600 sq. ft. house with a 400 sq. ft. garage, you can turn the garage into a bedroom (with permits), and you now have a 2000 sq. ft. house. If you don't pull permits, you can't count that space towards your square footage measurement when you sell.
 
2013-09-26 04:28:43 PM
Looks like a rented out foreclosure.  Naperville is constantly rated one of the top cities in the US to live, and their school district is top notch.  Someone will buy this for ~200K, tear down the house that's there now and put up one of these.

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-09-26 04:37:14 PM

Wireless Joe: Looks like a rented out foreclosure.  Naperville is constantly rated one of the top cities in the US to live, and their school district is top notch.  Someone will buy this for ~200K, tear down the house that's there now and put up one of these.

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 620x400]


Rental is what I'm thinking. Naperville is home to a nice little overpriced private college, so there are always a bunch of houses for rent.
 
2013-09-26 04:44:44 PM
What, no Lionel Hutz?
 
2013-09-26 05:05:00 PM

Githerax: $229,900. Almost a quarter of a million dollars.


You say that as if it's a lot of money. Your head would explode if you ever visited Vancouver, BC. For twice that price you might be able to find a house that wasn't currently on fire, although it would be located between two auto-body shops and across the railroad tracks from a rendering plant.
 
2013-09-26 05:20:40 PM

YixilTesiphon: And for $222,000 less, you can have this...thing...in Reading, Pennsylvania.


I grew up in Reading, PA. You couldn't pay me to go back to that place. It does have some nice suburbs, though.
 
2013-09-26 05:31:01 PM

Githerax: $229,900.  Almost a quarter of a million dollars.

I thought the bubble had burst.


For $229,900 you can GFY in the San Francisco Bay Area/Silicon Valley

/for double that you can get a shiat shack in not-SF, not-San Jose.
 
2013-09-26 05:35:36 PM

pdieten: Calmamity: What the hell is a gallery kitchen?

Maybe his spell check didn't have "galley" in it. :) If you're really asking, it's one of those stupid designs where the kitchen is basically a hallway with appliances on both sides, and you walk through it to get from the family room to the dining room. It's great for entertaining because it forces your guests to actually sit in the living room instead of congregating in the kitchen and getting in the hostess' way as she's trying to prepare dinner.


Sweet sneaky misogyny, bro!
 
2013-09-26 05:44:03 PM

ltdanman44: [thebuzzmedia.com image 800x1019]


I was eating a cookie and nearly choked you bastage!
 
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