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2013-09-26 01:11:10 PM  

Feel_the_velvet: ...there's a fun new drug on the streets that not only gets you high but also causes your skin to rot away
Wait, what's the catch?


I go to great lengths to find drugs that make me think my skin is rotting away.

But, taking drugs that actually make it happen--those people are idiots!
 
2013-09-26 01:15:25 PM  

eyeq360: I remember reading an article in National Geographic once about cocaine and they used some interesting ingredients out in Columbia in order to make it.  Stuff like hydrochloric acid, sulfuric acid, gasoline, ammonia, etc.  Meth manufacturing uses some crazy stuff as well.
Of course, the professionals use better methods to reduce the impurities, but even in a purer state, those drugs will still fark your body up.


Sort of.  You dont "make" cocaine, you extract it.  It grows naturally just the same as weed (and morphine and codeine)... but its not highly concentrated enough to fark you up just using the leaves.  So they use a chemical solvent that cocaine will dissolve into, while leaving the rest of the plant behind.  usually the cheapest and easiest thing around is kerosene, so thats what they use.  Petroleum distillates are popular because they evaporate quickly and easily.  They crush the leaves into a giant pit, fill it with kerosene, soak the cocaine out, then remove the kerosene and evaporate it.  Whats left behind is the cocaine powder.

Now, cocaine in its natural form is not a salt.. its basically an oil.  So you acidify it with the hydrochloric acid, which crystalizes it into a salt that you can transport and snort.

/brb knock at the door...
 
2013-09-26 01:21:52 PM  

GameSprocket: That mixture is then injected into a vein, potentially causing an addict's skin to greenish, scaly and eventually rot away.

The whole thing?


But only accidentally...

Seriously, though, this shiat is beyond terrifying.  Garden variety heroin can be so nasty it sounds like a horror movie plot device.  Adding necrotizing fasciitis to it is just I don't know what.
 
2013-09-26 01:24:25 PM  

nekom: R.A.Danny: Marcus Aurelius: Thunderpipes: This is why I do not believe in addiction, only in stupidity. If I can stop drinking, even thought it is awesome and I love it, then people don't have to mutilate their bodies. How about just not doing it?

You have obviously never been addicted to heroin.

He's probably too smart to put stuff from unknown strangers in his veins.

Look, nobody is arguing that any junkie out there is somehow unaware that they are slowly (or quickly) killing themselves.  But honestly, do you think a lot of junkies started from where they are now?  It takes a lot of time to go from smoking heroin with some weed once or twice at a party to selling your body to get enough heroin to get through the day without getting sick.  I'm not saying they didn't bring it on themselves, but have a little empathy.  Some of them CAN be saved, if public policy treats this as a public health crisis rather than a criminal affair.


You can buy weed with heroin in it?

When the hell did this happen?

And why does no one ever tell me anything?

Cold_Sassy: Marcus Aurelius: Cold_Sassy: Marcus Aurelius: fireclown: I would think that the illegality of drugs would increase the social unacceptableness of hard drugs

I used to know quite a few people that only drank during prohibition.  They did it for the kicks.

Prohibition ended in 1933.  How old are you?

Wrong side of 50.

Huh, whoda thunk it.   I'd never guess rom your posts.


That's the nicest thing a Farker has ever said to me.
 
2013-09-26 01:28:32 PM  

ows: obamacare skin graphs for everyone. come one come all.


Skin graph

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2013-09-26 01:33:51 PM  
Legalizing drugs *might* lead to a few more junkies. A very small price to pay for near total urban/rural renewal. And Marcus Aurelius, my grandma drank as a young flapper but I think I saw her drink a total of a glass of sherry spread out over a decade's worth of major holidays.
 
2013-09-26 01:38:33 PM  
Marcus Aurelius: Drug users need treatment, and hard drugs need to be made socially unacceptable.  We can't do that in a climate of prohibition.

Bah..lost the whole post I'd written due to an unfortunate case of Mac touchpad gestures.

Summary: I agree with almost all of your post.

I've been working around addicts for some time. If they had been charged with a crime, the great majority of the time it was in relation to either financially maintaining their supply, or addressing a deficit of supply. Very few serious crimes were committed while intoxicated.

The extremely rare violent crime was most often done in the throes of withdrawal, not while intoxicated.

Addressing the supply is very important issue that is extremely difficult to speak about in our culture of intolerance and prohibition. Effective therapy and social ostracization cannot co-exist, primarily because the taboo against hard drug usage prohibits clear, rational discourse and lends itself towards destructive stereotyping. Methadone and suboxone are available, but at significant social costs due to the very design of the programs. Current therapy models are built atop the stereotype of the unproductive, destructive addict and are treated as such, either at the clinics themselves, or by employers/potential employers.

The social stigma of being 'in recovery' is almost as bad as being an addict. Often, it is worse - the rules and rigors of current opiate therapy almost necessitate disclosure to one's social group, including employers, wherein an active addict can and is extremely proficient at hiding their habit. This is the most important issue facing current therapy techniques - in order to stop, one must out oneself as a user, and that outing does not remain compartmentalized within the therapy setting. It leaks into the rest of one's social construct. Consider that in the context of whatever hidden vice(s) you may possess. 50 years ago, things like depression, suicidal ideation and homosexuality had the same stigma. Admit any of those things, and one's entire social circle faced collapse. So, we end up with an terrible choice a.) continue feeling good and maintain social bonds, or b.) stop feeling good and risk breaking everything.

When high, however, these addicts went to work, went to school, made art, built businesses - not only were they productive, but more productive than most. The times when productivity dived - lethargy, days off work, firings and the subsequent financial devastation that occurs with a habit and no income - were generally related to a lack of supply, rather than a surplus. These people didn't get farked up and go watch TV or abuse kittens, the took their drugs and marched on the world.

I'm speaking purely of the non-criminal minded addict, which includes addicts who committed crimes in service to their addiction. I'm not speaking of the criminal mind who became an addict. I don't deal with that demographic. The nuance is subtle, but one that is lost on most of the staunch anti-drug crowd. There gulf between the two groups is enormous.

/I don't imagine I've changed your mind, but I hope I've compelled you to reconsider your position.

//I think most of the anti-drug crowd would shiat their pants if they understood how many of their idols, leaders, mentors, bosses, teachers, co-workers, friends and family are/were functional opiate addicts.
 
2013-09-26 01:39:42 PM  

b33rnutz: schubie: Legalize everything, watch crimes of all types plummet.

Stupidest idea ever.


Not quite as stupid as the thought process behind your post, however.
 
2013-09-26 01:44:11 PM  
Well I'm going to go throw up now. Thanks fark!
 
2013-09-26 01:45:21 PM  

eyeq360: Rapmaster2000: Similar to heroin?  Are they talking about the effects?  Because I don't recally heroin containing gasoline.
QueenMamaBee: What is the point of adding gasoline, paint thinner, etc into the drug? Does it increase the high? Why not just put water in it to stretch it out a bit? Or be a healthy junkie and crush up a Flintstones Vitamin?

I remember reading an article in National Geographic once about cocaine and they used some interesting ingredients out in Columbia in order to make it.  Stuff like hydrochloric acid, sulfuric acid, gasoline, ammonia, etc.  Meth manufacturing uses some crazy stuff as well.
Of course, the professionals use better methods to reduce the impurities, but even in a purer state, those drugs will still fark your body up.


Everything manufactured chemical uses some crazy, destructive stuff as part of the process. Not to harp on you alone, but I really hate this basic misunderstanding of chemistry.
 
2013-09-26 01:49:51 PM  
'guaranteed to become a club drug' wtf??

This hardly sounds like a good time, put your gladrags on, kinda drug. More a limping around, sheddin' your skin kinda deal.

No-ones standing in a queue outside a bar for an hour for that.
 
2013-09-26 01:57:14 PM  
Marcus Aurelius:
You can buy weed with heroin in it?

When the hell did this happen?


That's not what I meant.  I mean that someone who smokes weed and decides to try heroin, my logical guess would be they'd put some on top of a bowl and smoke it.  I mean, that's what I'd do if I ever wanted to try heroin (I don't).
 
2013-09-26 02:05:40 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: nekom: R.A.Danny: Marcus Aurelius: Thunderpipes: This is why I do not believe in addiction, only in stupidity. If I can stop drinking, even thought it is awesome and I love it, then people don't have to mutilate their bodies. How about just not doing it?

You have obviously never been addicted to heroin.

He's probably too smart to put stuff from unknown strangers in his veins.

Look, nobody is arguing that any junkie out there is somehow unaware that they are slowly (or quickly) killing themselves.  But honestly, do you think a lot of junkies started from where they are now?  It takes a lot of time to go from smoking heroin with some weed once or twice at a party to selling your body to get enough heroin to get through the day without getting sick.  I'm not saying they didn't bring it on themselves, but have a little empathy.  Some of them CAN be saved, if public policy treats this as a public health crisis rather than a criminal affair.

You can buy weed with heroin in it?

When the hell did this happen?

And why does no one ever tell me anything?
Cold_Sassy: Marcus Aurelius: Cold_Sassy: Marcus Aurelius: fireclown: I would think that the illegality of drugs would increase the social unacceptableness of hard drugs

I used to know quite a few people that only drank during prohibition.  They did it for the kicks.

Prohibition ended in 1933.  How old are you?

Wrong side of 50.

Huh, whoda thunk it.   I'd never guess rom your posts.

That's the nicest thing a Farker has ever said to me.


Yeah, they can be sort of a tough crowd sometimes...
 
2013-09-26 02:09:34 PM  
Sword and Shield
I'm a doctor. I'd LOVE to be able to give a chronic pain patient something that didn't have ibuprofen or acetaminophen in it- the doses some of my patients need are high enough to be dangerous with those add-ons. The pain is legit- bone cancer, collapsed vertebrae, things like that- but I can't get rid of their pain without toasting their livers.

One patient openly admits he smokes pot and buys morphine on the street since they work for his pain. It's more expensive, but taking 100mg vicodin a day (even 10/325, which is the lowest acetaminophen dose I can get) is still over three grams of tylenol.

A 70 year old Vietnam veteran shouldn't need to buy his pain meds off the street.


I agree that far too often people who really need pain relief are hurt by overzealous drug laws, but aren't there some viable alternatives to vicodin or other meds with ibu/acetaminophen? As I'm sure you know, codeine by itself, oxycodone, tapentadol, et al. are schedule II drugs. That means controls are strict, frequent doctor visits are required, and drug testing is standard, but they can be prescribed. Why can't arrangements be made for a 70 yr old vet with severe pain to get them?
 
2013-09-26 02:26:51 PM  

vygramul: 2KanZam: I really don't think that most people's choice to NOT do heroin is based on "I can't afford it".

Basic economics suggests people are more willing try something the cheaper it is.



So when heroin is $5 a gram, will you start using?  Or if you are already are a user, how many non-users do you know that keep asking you if the "prices have come down yet"?

I know the next time I get a raise my first thought will be...well at least now I can AFFORD a heroin habit!
 
2013-09-26 02:29:32 PM  

patrick767: Sword and Shield
I'm a doctor. I'd LOVE to be able to give a chronic pain patient something that didn't have ibuprofen or acetaminophen in it- the doses some of my patients need are high enough to be dangerous with those add-ons. The pain is legit- bone cancer, collapsed vertebrae, things like that- but I can't get rid of their pain without toasting their livers.

One patient openly admits he smokes pot and buys morphine on the street since they work for his pain. It's more expensive, but taking 100mg vicodin a day (even 10/325, which is the lowest acetaminophen dose I can get) is still over three grams of tylenol.

A 70 year old Vietnam veteran shouldn't need to buy his pain meds off the street.

I agree that far too often people who really need pain relief are hurt by overzealous drug laws, but aren't there some viable alternatives to vicodin or other meds with ibu/acetaminophen? As I'm sure you know, codeine by itself, oxycodone, tapentadol, et al. are schedule II drugs. That means controls are strict, frequent doctor visits are required, and drug testing is standard, but they can be prescribed. Why can't arrangements be made for a 70 yr old vet with severe pain to get them?


Why can't you prescribe him morphine sulphate pills, Opana, Oxycontin, Fentanyl patches, etc? Have the laws become so strict that it's a liability?
 
2013-09-26 02:37:34 PM  

psychopathic tendencies: eyeq360: Rapmaster2000: Similar to heroin?  Are they talking about the effects?  Because I don't recally heroin containing gasoline.
QueenMamaBee: What is the point of adding gasoline, paint thinner, etc into the drug? Does it increase the high? Why not just put water in it to stretch it out a bit? Or be a healthy junkie and crush up a Flintstones Vitamin?

I remember reading an article in National Geographic once about cocaine and they used some interesting ingredients out in Columbia in order to make it.  Stuff like hydrochloric acid, sulfuric acid, gasoline, ammonia, etc.  Meth manufacturing uses some crazy stuff as well.
Of course, the professionals use better methods to reduce the impurities, but even in a purer state, those drugs will still fark your body up.

Everything manufactured chemical uses some crazy, destructive stuff as part of the process. Not to harp on you alone, but I really hate this basic misunderstanding of chemistry.


I was doing a terrible job in explaining that drugs like krokodil or heroin or whatever the drug of choice these days uses things in the manufacturing/extracting process that we might find unpleasant.  I was using illegal drugs as an example, as some Farkers were wondering why would there be gasoline in krokodil.
Oh and I am well acquainted with the fact that even the chemicals that the FDA/USDA/etc. generally regard as safe for human consumption use processes and chemicals that are crazy and destructive.  I've known some people who work for the USDA and for pharmaceuticals.
 
2013-09-26 02:42:36 PM  
That creeps me the fark out.  I'm a mild painkiller user (about 100mg a week), but I also pay for my house, my 2 cars, and my bills are paid.  I mainly pop em when watching football or playing video games.  I don't drink much and I don't care for weed.  So the thought of injecting poison like Heroin or this Krokodil stuff just makes me shiver.  Disgusting stuff.
 
2013-09-26 02:54:13 PM  

Dog Welder: "New to the U.S." might have been more accurate, but this is Fox News we're talking about.



RTFA
 
2013-09-26 03:02:33 PM  

b33rnutz: schubie: Legalize everything, watch crimes of all types plummet.

Stupidest idea ever.


Legalizing drugs caused usage to drop dramatically as people were able to see treatment without fear of legal repercussions.



Evaluating Drug Decriminalization in Portugal 12 Years Later - SPIEGEL ONLINE
 
2013-09-26 03:04:10 PM  
It's not the desomorphine that causes the Krokodil effects, is all the crap that doesn't get purified out by the shake-and-bake Krokodil makers.

Cheap street shiat has always done stuff like that.
 
2013-09-26 03:33:17 PM  

buckler: If you value the last thing you ate, do NOT GIS "krokodil".


Dang, you weren't kidding.
 
2013-09-26 03:52:39 PM  

2KanZam: vygramul: 2KanZam: I really don't think that most people's choice to NOT do heroin is based on "I can't afford it".

Basic economics suggests people are more willing try something the cheaper it is.


So when heroin is $5 a gram, will you start using?  Or if you are already are a user, how many non-users do you know that keep asking you if the "prices have come down yet"?

I know the next time I get a raise my first thought will be...well at least now I can AFFORD a heroin habit!


If chocolate-covered ants drop to $0.01 each, I still ain't gettin' one. But others might.

Demand might not be very elastic, but economics states there are drug users who don't try because it's expensive.
 
2013-09-26 03:56:43 PM  

vygramul: 2KanZam: vygramul: 2KanZam: I really don't think that most people's choice to NOT do heroin is based on "I can't afford it".

Basic economics suggests people are more willing try something the cheaper it is.


So when heroin is $5 a gram, will you start using?  Or if you are already are a user, how many non-users do you know that keep asking you if the "prices have come down yet"?

I know the next time I get a raise my first thought will be...well at least now I can AFFORD a heroin habit!

If chocolate-covered ants drop to $0.01 each, I still ain't gettin' one. But others might.

Demand might not be very elastic, but economics states there are drug users who don't try because it's expensive.


That's why the first hit is always free.
 
2013-09-26 04:06:50 PM  

xalres: Marcus Aurelius: Thunderpipes: This is why I do not believe in addiction, only in stupidity. If I can stop drinking, even thought it is awesome and I love it, then people don't have to mutilate their bodies. How about just not doing it?

You have obviously never been addicted to heroin.

...or alcohol, the withdrawals from which can actually kill you. Sounds like he gave up social drinking and thinks he "beat alcoholism", so anybody should be able to kick anything by "just not doing it". I get it. I quit smoking by just quitting smoking cold turkey. I realize that it's not that easy for everybody though.


I drank more than anyone you have ever known. Difference is, I deal with the night sweats and the shakes and stop. Make no mistake, addiction is nothing but people being weak.
 
2013-09-26 04:21:56 PM  

Thunderpipes: xalres: Marcus Aurelius: Thunderpipes: This is why I do not believe in addiction, only in stupidity. If I can stop drinking, even thought it is awesome and I love it, then people don't have to mutilate their bodies. How about just not doing it?

You have obviously never been addicted to heroin.

...or alcohol, the withdrawals from which can actually kill you. Sounds like he gave up social drinking and thinks he "beat alcoholism", so anybody should be able to kick anything by "just not doing it". I get it. I quit smoking by just quitting smoking cold turkey. I realize that it's not that easy for everybody though.

I drank more than anyone you have ever known. Difference is, I deal with the night sweats and the shakes and stop. Make no mistake, addiction is nothing but people being weak.


I spent a lot of time with that in the hospital when dealing with other issues.. It's not a character flaw; much of it is genetic.
 
2013-09-26 04:51:29 PM  

hardinparamedic: buckler: If you value the last thing you ate, do NOT GIS "krokodil".

Are you kidding. Makes me want a hamburger.


My Whopper....

You owe me a new keyboard. And screen.

And a Whopper.
 
2013-09-26 04:58:01 PM  

heliotrope: 'guaranteed to become a club drug' wtf??

This hardly sounds like a good time, put your gladrags on, kinda drug. More a limping around, sheddin' your skin kinda deal.

No-ones standing in a queue outside a bar for an hour for that.


It said guaranteed NOT to become a club drug.
 
2013-09-26 05:07:55 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: Wouldn't it be called Alligator if it was in the US?


I would call it Interior Crocodile Alligator
 
2013-09-26 05:11:49 PM  

Sword and Shield: schubie: When people could just go down to the pharmacy and get an original recipe Coca Cola and little laudenum, nobody was smoking crack and very few were shooting heroin. These drugs exist BECAUSE OF PROHIBITION. There's always more money and less mass to smuggle if it's the hard stuff. During prohibition the gangsters and drinkers were interested in whiskey, gin etc. Not some beer. Legalize everything, watch crimes of all types plummet.

You know, he's right.

I'm a doctor. I'd LOVE to be able to give a chronic pain patient something that didn't have ibuprofen or acetaminophen in it- the doses some of my patients need are high enough to be dangerous with those add-ons. The pain is legit- bone cancer, collapsed vertebrae, things like that- but I can't get rid of their pain without toasting their livers.

One patient openly admits he smokes pot and buys morphine on the street since they work for his pain. It's more expensive, but taking 100mg vicodin a day (even 10/325, which is the lowest acetaminophen dose I can get) is still over three grams of tylenol.

A 70 year old Vietnam veteran shouldn't need to buy his pain meds off the street.


You're a doctor and don't know about Norco? They make and sell hydrocodone without the acetaminophen.
 
2013-09-26 05:16:27 PM  

Thunderpipes: xalres: Marcus Aurelius: Thunderpipes: This is why I do not believe in addiction, only in stupidity. If I can stop drinking, even thought it is awesome and I love it, then people don't have to mutilate their bodies. How about just not doing it?

You have obviously never been addicted to heroin.

...or alcohol, the withdrawals from which can actually kill you. Sounds like he gave up social drinking and thinks he "beat alcoholism", so anybody should be able to kick anything by "just not doing it". I get it. I quit smoking by just quitting smoking cold turkey. I realize that it's not that easy for everybody though.

I drank more than anyone you have ever known. Difference is, I deal with the night sweats and the shakes and stop. Make no mistake, addiction is nothing but people being weak.


It's amazing that someone can speak from experience and at the same time have no idea what they're talking about.
 
2013-09-26 05:17:22 PM  

ReverendJynxed: Sword and Shield: schubie: When people could just go down to the pharmacy and get an original recipe Coca Cola and little laudenum, nobody was smoking crack and very few were shooting heroin. These drugs exist BECAUSE OF PROHIBITION. There's always more money and less mass to smuggle if it's the hard stuff. During prohibition the gangsters and drinkers were interested in whiskey, gin etc. Not some beer. Legalize everything, watch crimes of all types plummet.

You know, he's right.

I'm a doctor. I'd LOVE to be able to give a chronic pain patient something that didn't have ibuprofen or acetaminophen in it- the doses some of my patients need are high enough to be dangerous with those add-ons. The pain is legit- bone cancer, collapsed vertebrae, things like that- but I can't get rid of their pain without toasting their livers.

One patient openly admits he smokes pot and buys morphine on the street since they work for his pain. It's more expensive, but taking 100mg vicodin a day (even 10/325, which is the lowest acetaminophen dose I can get) is still over three grams of tylenol.

A 70 year old Vietnam veteran shouldn't need to buy his pain meds off the street.

You're a doctor and don't know about Norco? They make and sell hydrocodone without the acetaminophen.


I suppose I came off a bit snippier than intended. Sorry.

I was prescribed generic norco tabs 10mg hydrocodone no acetaminophen a long while back (2003.) I thought they were pretty common as they were suggested to me when I was having issues with the overload of acetaminophen. Rite Aid filled the script without having to order it or anything.
 
2013-09-26 07:22:37 PM  

ReverendJynxed: ReverendJynxed: Sword and Shield: schubie: When people could just go down to the pharmacy and get an original recipe Coca Cola and little laudenum, nobody was smoking crack and very few were shooting heroin. These drugs exist BECAUSE OF PROHIBITION. There's always more money and less mass to smuggle if it's the hard stuff. During prohibition the gangsters and drinkers were interested in whiskey, gin etc. Not some beer. Legalize everything, watch crimes of all types plummet.

You know, he's right.

I'm a doctor. I'd LOVE to be able to give a chronic pain patient something that didn't have ibuprofen or acetaminophen in it- the doses some of my patients need are high enough to be dangerous with those add-ons. The pain is legit- bone cancer, collapsed vertebrae, things like that- but I can't get rid of their pain without toasting their livers.

One patient openly admits he smokes pot and buys morphine on the street since they work for his pain. It's more expensive, but taking 100mg vicodin a day (even 10/325, which is the lowest acetaminophen dose I can get) is still over three grams of tylenol.

A 70 year old Vietnam veteran shouldn't need to buy his pain meds off the street.

You're a doctor and don't know about Norco? They make and sell hydrocodone without the acetaminophen.

I suppose I came off a bit snippier than intended. Sorry.

I was prescribed generic norco tabs 10mg hydrocodone no acetaminophen a long while back (2003.) I thought they were pretty common as they were suggested to me when I was having issues with the overload of acetaminophen. Rite Aid filled the script without having to order it or anything.


Oh, believe me. I know Norco. Problem is, none of the pharmacies here stock it, only Vicodin or Percocet. The VA in particular won't. As for opana, straight MS and fentanyl, those are equally a pain in the ass. Possible but most insurance won't cover it.
 
2013-09-26 08:01:39 PM  

psychopathic tendencies: Addressing the supply is very important issue that is extremely difficult to speak about in our culture of intolerance and prohibition


I had an older stepbrother that passed away a few years ago from hard core drug abuse.  He was very partial to PCP and heroin.  He would crawl through a minefield to get either one.  There was simply nothing you could do to dissuade him from his pursuit it.  It was all consuming to him.  It finally consumed him completely.

The addict is the problem.  Without the addict, opiates are just another medicine in the cabinet.
 
2013-09-26 08:27:18 PM  
Call me a little suspicious.  "Krokodil" is also the name of a Russian adult humor magazine.  Think "The Onion" blended with "National Lampoon".  After the Soviet Union collapsed they just went nuts.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-09-26 08:38:46 PM  

nekom: Marcus Aurelius:
You can buy weed with heroin in it?

When the hell did this happen?

That's not what I meant.  I mean that someone who smokes weed and decides to try heroin, my logical guess would be they'd put some on top of a bowl and smoke it.  I mean, that's what I'd do if I ever wanted to try heroin (I don't).


The drug business is surprising when you tear it apart.  Pot dealers will dabble in hallucinogens, but nothing else.  I mean nothing else.

Coke dealers deal coke.  End of story.

Heroin dealers deal heroin.  End of story.
 
2013-09-26 09:05:08 PM  
Crocodile finally is hitting the United States.

I understood that it is mostly for down and out heroin users, so don't expect people to jump from mary jane to crocodile.
 
2013-09-26 09:29:13 PM  

ginkor: Call me a little suspicious.  "Krokodil" is also the name of a Russian adult humor magazine.  Think "The Onion" blended with "National Lampoon".  After the Soviet Union collapsed they just went nuts.

[i.imgur.com image 300x299]


Seconded. I've been suspicious since I first heard about it, not for the reasons you are (though I"ll certainly look in to your info), but because its so anti-drug extreme. A guy let his leg rot from krokodil, then he and a friend sawed off his leg at the exposed bone?? Bull - shiat.

Also, the doctor in the article strikes me as suspiciously convenient in his phrasing. I'm not sure why, but alarms are sounding.
 
2013-09-26 09:41:06 PM  
The reason it is so popular in Russia is that Codeine is available OTC there. In the US, it is not obviously, so it is harder to get. It is probably just as easy to get heroin as it is Codeine, so I doubt it'll ever take off huge here.
 
2013-09-27 12:38:58 AM  
Maybe if the brought back Zima, kids wouldn't have to find new outlets.
 
2013-09-27 01:42:28 AM  
So we decided to try a new drug
Because the typical is not enough

Something went wrong...

http://youtu.be/pwsAnld0tgY
 
2013-09-27 02:27:51 AM  

outtatowner: hardinparamedic: Wow. Krokodill in the United States?

I was always laboring under the impression that the reason people used that was because A) Codiene and it's other precursers are OTC in Europe, and B) They can't afford anything else.

Codeine is OTC in Canada too yet we don't see this stuff anywhere.

/knows some councelors and rehab workers by proxy


Like many people here I watched the (scary) Vice doc on krokodil a few years ago.  As I recall from the doc it is made using pure codeine tablets (no aspirin, acetaminophen, or caffeine), which are apparently available OTC in Russia.

In Canada only codeine plus either aspirin and caffeine or acetaminophen and caffeine are available OTC, so there would be extra processing steps (not that it's stopped determined chemists before, though - hence meth) - or the final product here would *also* have aspirin or acetaminophen in it, which would do even more damage.

This of course begs the question - what are they making the US krokodil out of, since (it's my understanding, anyway) no codeine-containing products are available as OTC in the US anymore.

/also Canadian
 
2013-09-27 10:09:00 AM  

nekom: Marcus Aurelius:
The stupidest idea ever was letting our politicians pass laws that made a large percentage of our population into criminals.

And what do these "criminals" do when they get out?  Go right back to the drug, that's what.  I'd much rather see compulsory rehab rather than prison for drug addicts.  Marijuana should be 100% legal, it's less harmful than tobacco or alcohol.  Hard drugs, I'm on the fence on that one because they CAN take someone and grind them down until there's nothing left.  But throwing them in a cage for a time isn't helping them.


I see your point, but, since we can't even keep hard drugs out of maximum security prisons, I think we have to be adults,and realize that the Drugs won the War on Drugs.
 
2013-09-27 10:11:08 AM  

Cold_Sassy: Marcus Aurelius: fireclown: I would think that the illegality of drugs would increase the social unacceptableness of hard drugs

I used to know quite a few people that only drank during prohibition.  They did it for the kicks.

Prohibition ended in 1933.  How old are you?


Eh, my grandmother passed away last year, at 104...she confirmed that.  Nobody in her social circle drank much besides a glass of wine at dinner, until Prohibition came along.  Then they all started going to speakeasys and getting blitzed on hard liquor at least once a week.
 
2013-09-27 01:59:22 PM  
It's "Breaking Worse!"
Sad, plus totally gross video! - Flesh-eating drug Krokodil makes first U.S. appearance (Video)
http://www.examiner.com/article/flesh-eating-drug-krokodil-makes-fir st -u-s-appearance
 
2013-09-27 04:24:19 PM  
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