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2013-09-26 10:41:45 AM
I hope someone's giving these folks clean needles.
 
2013-09-26 10:42:43 AM

Satan's Bunny Slippers: This.  Krokodil has been around at least 10 years that I know of.  Didn't it start in Russia?


It's new in the United States. Mainly because Codeine is not available OTC here, and it's hard to get a prescription for pure codeine products anymore.
 
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2013-09-26 10:43:13 AM
can't wait for miley circus to sing its praises
 
2013-09-26 10:43:37 AM

Marcus Aurelius: Drug users need treatment, and hard drugs need to be made socially unacceptable. We can't do that in a climate of prohibition.


I would think that the illegality of drugs would increase the social unacceptableness of hard drugs.  It's certainly one of the things that has located my range of drug usage.  I could explain a booze or weed addiction to my social group, but heroin would have steep social costs.

If we follow the social unacceptability idea, and I think we should, we should try to figure out a way to expand the stigma to groups in which heroin use is more permissible.  I'm lookin' at YOU, East Baltimore.
 
2013-09-26 10:43:49 AM
In a documentary I saw they were using eye drops to procure some of the harder to get substances needed to make this garbage.
On top of all the negative effects it also kills your brain.  Its almost as close to a zombie as you can get.
 
2013-09-26 10:43:55 AM

Marcus Aurelius: doublesecretprobation: Marcus Aurelius: Our government has driven the price of heroin up so high that addicts are willing to take this poison.

This is 100% the fault of the US Congress.  They refuse to regulate heroin, so people die or go to jail instead.

What a country.

can't tell if serious.....  i was under the impression that there was actually a glut of heroin thanks to our friends in the middle east.  it's definitely a big problem here in MA.

Krok is ten times cheaper than heroin.  Heroin is actually turning into a middle class drug.  The street purity is far higher than it's ever been, so users can snort it now.


Not around here, yet. The same poor white trash that used to get busted for pills are now the ones getting busted for heroin. (Yay, thanks Ky Prescription Law!)
 
2013-09-26 10:44:34 AM
When people could just go down to the pharmacy and get an original recipe Coca Cola and little laudenum, nobody was smoking crack and very few were shooting heroin. These drugs exist BECAUSE OF PROHIBITION. There's always more money and less mass to smuggle if it's the hard stuff. During prohibition the gangsters and drinkers were interested in whiskey, gin etc. Not some beer. Legalize everything, watch crimes of all types plummet.
 
2013-09-26 10:44:56 AM
Why don't people just get drunk anymore?!

This is just rediculous...
 
2013-09-26 10:45:21 AM

Snarfangel: Similar to morphine or heroin, krokodil is made by mixing codeine with substances like gasoline, paint thinner, oil or alcohol.

There's your problem. You need to use healthy ingredients, like sulfuric acid, plutonium, or raw sewage.


Similar to heroin?  Are they talking about the effects?  Because I don't recally heroin containing gasoline.
 
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2013-09-26 10:45:35 AM
obamacare skin graphs for everyone. come one come all.
 
2013-09-26 10:45:39 AM
Ya know, if you're dumb enough to inject gasoline, paint thinner, acid & other stuff into your body, you should probably just go ahead and shoot up enough to take yourself out of the gene pool.
 
2013-09-26 10:45:57 AM
I'll just stick with jenkem.
 
2013-09-26 10:46:23 AM

Marcus Aurelius: QueenMamaBee: Marcus Aurelius: Our government has driven the price of heroin up so high that addicts are willing to take this poison.

This is 100% the fault of the US Congress.  They refuse to regulate heroin, so people die or go to jail instead.

What a country.

Yes, that's the answer, cheaper heroin.

Why not a better mental health care system?

Why not a legal framework that treats drugs as a social problem as opposed to a criminal problem?

Drug users need treatment, and hard drugs need to be made socially unacceptable.  We can't do that in a climate of prohibition.


I understand what you're saying, but consider those two things together.  You want to make the drugs available, but tell everyone that it's unacceptable.

We have that, it's called Methadone.

/Methadone: all the releif without the fun of staying awake for your high
 
2013-09-26 10:46:30 AM
Back in my day, the good drugs only made you THINK your flesh was rotting away.

/kids today...
 
2013-09-26 10:47:19 AM

fireclown: I would think that the illegality of drugs would increase the social unacceptableness of hard drugs


I used to know quite a few people that only drank during prohibition.  They did it for the kicks.
 
2013-09-26 10:48:09 AM

The more you eat the more you fart: Made the mistake of looking this shiat up about a year ago after my brother told me about a video he saw about it.

Guy whose leg basically rotted away until his bones were exposed to the knee and a couple of his friends help him saw it off with a bow saw.

You dont wanna see it...trust me.


Yes I do. Link please.
 
2013-09-26 10:49:04 AM
It's cheaper than heroin, but still costs you an arm and a leg...
 
2013-09-26 10:49:04 AM
What is the point of adding gasoline, paint thinner, etc into the drug? Does it increase the high? Why not just put water in it to stretch it out a bit? Or be a healthy junkie and crush up a Flintstones Vitamin?

/DNRTFA
 
2013-09-26 10:49:07 AM
schubie: Legalize everything, watch crimes of all types plummet.

Stupidest idea ever.
 
2013-09-26 10:49:27 AM

mike_d85: I understand what you're saying, but consider those two things together. You want to make the drugs available, but tell everyone that it's unacceptable.

We have that, it's called Methadone


So how do you explain the Krok market then?
 
2013-09-26 10:49:54 AM
We should be distributing Prozac and Zoloft for free.  Sounds like the bulk of these users are basically just pissed off at life.  Some antidepressants and they might become productive again.

/or else offer euthanasia
 
2013-09-26 10:49:55 AM
www.surprisetheguys.com
 
2013-09-26 10:49:56 AM

spickus: Yes I do. Link please.


Medscape has a good article for it. Even with SafeSearch on, google's images are pretty NSFW. Lots of necrosis and gangrene photos.
 
2013-09-26 10:50:10 AM

Rapmaster2000: Similar to heroin? Are they talking about the effects? Because I don't recally heroin containing gasoline.


Yes. It's a replacement for heroin. A shiatty replacement, but the ingredients are cheap, readily available and anyone can make it.

There's a pretty good article on it from Russia, I'm not linking it but a quick googling will bring it up.
 
2013-09-26 10:50:22 AM

QueenMamaBee: What is the point of adding gasoline, paint thinner, etc into the drug?


How else are you going to get your skin to turn green and fall off?
 
2013-09-26 10:51:04 AM

Marcus Aurelius: fireclown: I would think that the illegality of drugs would increase the social unacceptableness of hard drugs

I used to know quite a few people that only drank during prohibition.  They did it for the kicks.


I'm going to categorize those guys as being addicted to thrill seeking behavior rather than to drugs themselves.  I have no earthly clue what percentage of heavy drug users are this kind of person.  I would think that they would tend to be fairly light users.
 
2013-09-26 10:51:22 AM

b33rnutz: schubie: Legalize everything, watch crimes of all types plummet.

Stupidest idea ever.


Why?  It was all perfectly legal up until about 1900, and we seemed to function quite well as a society.

The stupidest idea ever was letting our politicians pass laws that made a large percentage of our population into criminals.
 
2013-09-26 10:51:31 AM

hardinparamedic: Satan's Bunny Slippers: This.  Krokodil has been around at least 10 years that I know of.  Didn't it start in Russia?

It's new in the United States. Mainly because Codeine is not available OTC here, and it's hard to get a prescription for pure codeine products anymore.


Yeah, sorry.  I didn't read the entire thread before posting.  Thanks for the clarification though!
 
2013-09-26 10:51:37 AM

FrancoFile: We should be distributing Prozac and Zoloft for free.


we do, it's in every fresh body of water.
 
2013-09-26 10:51:44 AM

Rapmaster2000: Similar to heroin? Are they talking about the effects? Because I don't recally heroin containing gasoline.


It's used in the cook procedure to turn codiene into desomorphine, however the resultant sewage has ton of impurities. My guess is, after looking at the chemistry of true deso production is that the gasoline is used as a liquid while your batch crystallizes in it.
 
2013-09-26 10:51:58 AM

Snarfangel: QueenMamaBee: What is the point of adding gasoline, paint thinner, etc into the drug?

How else are you going to get your skin to turn green and fall off?


I don't know.... I've never really had the desire to do that. Darker brown is the only color change I like, and I like my skin precisely where it is.
 
2013-09-26 10:52:16 AM

gu1tarjohn: Thanks, Monsanto.


Not Monsanto's fault on this one, dumbass.
 
2013-09-26 10:52:58 AM

IdBeCrazyIf: Rapmaster2000: Similar to heroin? Are they talking about the effects? Because I don't recally heroin containing gasoline.

It's used in the cook procedure to turn codiene into desomorphine, however the resultant sewage has ton of impurities. My guess is, after looking at the chemistry of true deso production is that the gasoline is used as a liquid while your batch crystallizes in it.


Yikes.  I'll just stick to booze and weed.  It seems less complicated.
 
2013-09-26 10:54:51 AM

YoOjo: When did drugs get so shiatty?
Used to be all we had was warm fuzzy downers, some peachy psychedelics to lose yourself in midweek, copious amounts of weed and maybe a bit of coke or smack, if you were into that kind of thing.
Now it's all horse tranquilizers, drain cleaners mixed with industrial weed killer, crushed hopes and dreams in a dilution of impure bile, and if you're particularly unlucky, something they call 21st Century Reality.


Dealers learned chemistry and the government got good at shutting down distribution chains, if only temporarily.

You get a pipeline of heroin running, the junkies migrate to you, you find you can cut you stuff with rat poison and (if cut properly) the user gets an even more powerful "high." Then your Colombian contact gets arrested/killed and you start upping the amount of baking soda because your supply is running out and the junkies will pay because where else they gonna go?  Every dealer's shiat got weak.

Then someone finds some shiat mix of codeine and raw sewage that works better than nothing and the customer base is desperate and the same people who smashed the last network don't have any money, skill, or compassion to fund a farking methadone clinic.
 
2013-09-26 10:54:59 AM

84Charlie: gu1tarjohn: Thanks, Monsanto.

Not Monsanto's fault on this one, dumbass.


Ya really.  It's clearly Obama's fault.
 
2013-09-26 10:55:02 AM

FarkinNortherner: Where's Walter White when you need him?

Also, old news is old.


It's not old news.  The report is about the drug surfacing in the US for the first time.
 
2013-09-26 10:55:05 AM
Wouldn't it be called Alligator if it was in the US?
 
2013-09-26 10:55:46 AM
Marcus Aurelius:
The stupidest idea ever was letting our politicians pass laws that made a large percentage of our population into criminals.

And what do these "criminals" do when they get out?  Go right back to the drug, that's what.  I'd much rather see compulsory rehab rather than prison for drug addicts.  Marijuana should be 100% legal, it's less harmful than tobacco or alcohol.  Hard drugs, I'm on the fence on that one because they CAN take someone and grind them down until there's nothing left.  But throwing them in a cage for a time isn't helping them.
 
2013-09-26 10:55:56 AM
We've had something similar in Seattle for a while, except in this case it's an additive to cocaine that rots your skin off.
 
2013-09-26 10:56:49 AM

Marcus Aurelius: mike_d85: I understand what you're saying, but consider those two things together. You want to make the drugs available, but tell everyone that it's unacceptable.

We have that, it's called Methadone

So how do you explain the Krok market then?


To acquire Methadone legally, you have to provide your name, address, etc., etc.  Drug addicts generally don't want people to know they are on drugs.  Also, I'm pretty sure methadone has a price.  I don't know what it is (other than charges for rehab generally), but it's probably more than the stuff that rots your flesh off.
 
2013-09-26 10:58:23 AM

GonzoNihilist: 84Charlie: gu1tarjohn: Thanks, Monsanto.

Not Monsanto's fault on this one, dumbass.

Ya really.  It's clearly Obama's fault.


Nah, I will place the blame on an old school enemy, the f-ing Russians. Only in that f-ed up country is regular heroin not good enough for them even though they are withing spitting distance of Afghanistan.
 
2013-09-26 10:58:37 AM

nekom: Shadow Blasko:
/Won't be long until every substance that can be used to make it will be illegal, possibly including bottled water.

Not "illegal" per se, but on what they call the DEA "snitch list", making it hard to get in any quantity unless you have a legitimate use for it.  That's why we have to have our ID's scanned to buy cold medicine.


This nonsense blows my mind. I go buy some Claritin D and they scan my ID and record a bunch of shiat. I get my percocet prescription filled and they just look at the ID to make sure the name matches the prescription label.
 
2013-09-26 10:58:43 AM

Marcus Aurelius: fireclown: I would think that the illegality of drugs would increase the social unacceptableness of hard drugs

I used to know quite a few people that only drank during prohibition.  They did it for the kicks.


Prohibition ended in 1933.  How old are you?
 
2013-09-26 11:00:24 AM

Because People in power are Stupid: Wouldn't it be called Alligator if it was in the US?


Alligator MAX XL Turbo!!!!

/maybe add a few 'void where prohibited' disclaimers though
 
2013-09-26 11:00:38 AM

Noticeably F.A.T.: I was wondering when/if that was going to make it to the US.


It won't, we have Meth.  This is the shiat-drug for when you can't get good stuff, it's made in Russia because Codeine's more available there, but in the states if you can get that volume of codeine you can get the chems you need for meth easier, and while meth is an upper instead of a downer, At the point you are using krokodil you are most likely just desperate for ANYTHING to make the pain go away.
 
2013-09-26 11:01:44 AM

Because People in power are Stupid: Wouldn't it be called Alligator if it was in the US?


Except in the desert southwest, where it would be Gila monster.
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2013-09-26 11:01:59 AM

Because People in power are Stupid: Wouldn't it be called Alligator if it was in the US?


Or Caimenol.
 
2013-09-26 11:03:25 AM
WTF? Were they doing it for the thrill?

Codeine being scrip only here should prevent this from ever going mainstream. It's what you do if you can't get anything else. It's not the kind of thing you go out of your way to do.
 
2013-09-26 11:04:19 AM
Addicts gonna addict.  Decriminalization and medical management of addiction wouldn't likely reduce the number of addicts but it would take most of the money out of the drug business.  If a day's worth of heroin was $5 you wouldn't see people stabbed for it, nor drug lords buying police, or dealers shooting up rivals.
 
2013-09-26 11:05:26 AM

Marcus Aurelius: Our government has driven the price of heroin up so high that addicts are willing to take this poison.


Good
 
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