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(Chicago Trib)   Woman claims her 17 year-old son is not in a gang; he just brought a 9MM handgun to school with him for "protection." I'm sure his classmates felt the same way   (chicagotribune.com) divider line 82
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2013-09-26 08:13:10 AM  
from the article they acknowledged that students have gangs causing safety issues on their way to school, so maybe a lot of the other students do feel the same way. maybe someone should do something about that.
 
2013-09-26 09:01:50 AM  

NickelP: from the article they acknowledged that students have gangs causing safety issues on their way to school, so maybe a lot of the other students do feel the same way. maybe someone should do something about that.


If only Chicago had strict gun laws to stop these gangs. Oh wait, they do.
 
2013-09-26 09:07:43 AM  
Take the gun from the kid.
Send him to amish camp for three years.
Move and don't leave a forwarding address.
 
2013-09-26 09:10:52 AM  

vudukungfu: Take the gun from the kid.
Send him to amish camp for three years.
Move and don't leave a forwarding address.


www.andrewtonnphoto.com
 
2013-09-26 09:39:36 AM  
He's 17?!

What are they putting in milk these days?!
 
2013-09-26 09:46:49 AM  

scottydoesntknow: He's 17?!

What are they putting in milk these days?!


25 is the new 17
 
2013-09-26 09:48:11 AM  

doglover: vudukungfu: Take the gun from the kid.
Send him to amish camp for three years.
Move and don't leave a forwarding address.

[www.andrewtonnphoto.com image 450x305]


I don't know why, but I have the weirdest boner right now.
 
2013-09-26 09:49:38 AM  
The only way to stop a bad student with a gun is a good student with a gun.
 
2013-09-26 09:50:46 AM  
Why didn't he just use one of Chicago's gang-free "safe passage" routes?
 
2013-09-26 09:51:50 AM  
This is how you get considered for an NRA scholarship.
 
2013-09-26 09:52:39 AM  
Knowing what the gang activity around those parts of Chicago has been like these last few years, I'm inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt.
 
2013-09-26 09:54:07 AM  
"Hamilton was charged as an adult with unlawful use of a weapon and possession of a firearm in school, both felonies. His mother watched with tearful eyes Wednesday as a judge set bail at $75,000 for her son, still dressed in his school uniform: a white buttoned-down shirt and khaki pants."


Holy fark, $75k bail? What the hell, that seems ridiculously high.
 
2013-09-26 09:54:56 AM  

doglover: vudukungfu: Take the gun from the kid.
Send him to amish camp for three years.
Move and don't leave a forwarding address.

[www.andrewtonnphoto.com image 450x305]


Those look like Mennonites, not Amish.
 
2013-09-26 09:55:07 AM  
Pretty sad, kid has a 4.0 and has a bunch of offers from various prestigious universities, and an interest in computer science.  As someone who grew up under the shadow of bullying I can totally see how someone would react this way especially given how bad gangs can be.

Having said that, his mom would probably be better off getting out of that area. Find a way. Your son is probably your future, find a way.

Also, Chicago PD should be all over this sh*t. They really need to learn some modern day policing techniques. My guess is there's a ton of corruption on the force.
 
2013-09-26 09:55:53 AM  

NickelP: from the article they acknowledged that students have gangs causing safety issues on their way to school, so maybe a lot of the other students do feel the same way. maybe someone should do something about that.


They are doing something about it. The students have started a grass roots organisation in which they help each other defend themselves from the gangs. They are active in quite a few neighbourhoods and they seem quite effective in giving their members a feeling of safety.
 
2013-09-26 09:56:39 AM  

doglover: NickelP: from the article they acknowledged that students have gangs causing safety issues on their way to school, so maybe a lot of the other students do feel the same way. maybe someone should do something about that.

If only Chicago had strict gun laws to stop these gangs. Oh wait, they do.


1/10. Too subtle.
 
2013-09-26 09:57:25 AM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: "Hamilton was charged as an adult with unlawful use of a weapon and possession of a firearm in school, both felonies. His mother watched with tearful eyes Wednesday as a judge set bail at $75,000 for her son, still dressed in his school uniform: a white buttoned-down shirt and khaki pants."


Holy fark, $75k bail? What the hell, that seems ridiculously high.


Guns in school zones tend to result heavy handedness.
 
2013-09-26 09:57:30 AM  

Precision Boobery: Why didn't he just use one of Chicago's gang-free "safe passage" routes?


www.mtm-inc.net

"Tell me where the white man touched you, Darnell."
 
2013-09-26 09:57:43 AM  
I'd want a gun if I lived in Chicago.

Of course, I'd use it to blast my way out....
 
2013-09-26 09:58:18 AM  

DerAppie: NickelP: from the article they acknowledged that students have gangs causing safety issues on their way to school, so maybe a lot of the other students do feel the same way. maybe someone should do something about that.

They are doing something about it. The students have started a grass roots organisation in which they help each other defend themselves from the gangs. They are active in quite a few neighbourhoods and they seem quite effective in giving their members a feeling of safety.


A "grass roots organisation in which they help each other defend themselves from the gangs" sounds a lot like a gang to me.
 
2013-09-26 09:59:57 AM  

doglover: NickelP: from the article they acknowledged that students have gangs causing safety issues on their way to school, so maybe a lot of the other students do feel the same way. maybe someone should do something about that.

If only Chicago had strict gun laws to stop these gangs. Oh wait, they do.

No! If only Chicago had police that gave a fark besides writing tickets.
/They rather give you a ticket for petty shiat instead of getting the people yelling "weed, rocks, blows park".
//I live here
 
2013-09-26 10:00:29 AM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: "Hamilton was charged as an adult with unlawful use of a weapon and possession of a firearm in school, both felonies. His mother watched with tearful eyes Wednesday as a judge set bail at $75,000 for her son, still dressed in his school uniform: a white buttoned-down shirt and khaki pants."


Holy fark, $75k bail? What the hell, that seems ridiculously high.


Black and poor. Now if he had been rich and white the bail would have been $5K.
 
2013-09-26 10:01:13 AM  
The only way to stop a bad kid with a gun is a good kid with a gun.
 
2013-09-26 10:01:32 AM  
On one hand, he has a plausible defense.  On the other hand, he's a 28-year-old impersonating a high school student, so his credibility is poor.
 
2013-09-26 10:02:03 AM  

doglover: NickelP: from the article they acknowledged that students have gangs causing safety issues on their way to school, so maybe a lot of the other students do feel the same way. maybe someone should do something about that.

If only Chicago had strict gun laws to stop these gangs. Oh wait, they do.


Chicago just needs more gun laws to get these outlaws to stop breaking the gun laws. Obama told me that.
 
2013-09-26 10:02:04 AM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: "Hamilton was charged as an adult with unlawful use of a weapon and possession of a firearm in school, both felonies. His mother watched with tearful eyes Wednesday as a judge set bail at $75,000 for her son, still dressed in his school uniform: a white buttoned-down shirt and khaki pants."


Holy fark, $75k bail? What the hell, that seems ridiculously high.


If he has a 4.0 and good attendance I'm inclined to take his word for why he had the gun. Chicago has some VERY rough parts and lots of charter schools have students from a wide variety of locations. He should get a nice misdemeanor with community service every Saturday until he graduates.

That being said this is one of those "illegal guns" (cook county is a no gun zone don'tcha know) and he needs to fess up as part of a plea deal on what friend gave it to him similar plea deal should be offered to every step in the chain till it can be traced to whoever brought it into Chicago - then charge that person with felony weapon trafficking and every law Chicago has on the books.
 
2013-09-26 10:03:08 AM  

reillan: The only way to stop a bad kid with a gun is a good kid with a gun.


Waiting for the NRA stand up for this kid.

Still waiting...
 
2013-09-26 10:03:24 AM  

bdub77: Also, Chicago PD should be all over this sh*t. They really need to learn some modern day policing techniques. My guess is there's a ton of corruption on the force.


I am certain that your "guess" is merely wild speculation entirely unfounded and without any real-world support.
 
2013-09-26 10:04:04 AM  

drjekel_mrhyde: doglover: NickelP: from the article they acknowledged that students have gangs causing safety issues on their way to school, so maybe a lot of the other students do feel the same way. maybe someone should do something about that.

If only Chicago had strict gun laws to stop these gangs. Oh wait, they do.
No! If only Chicago had police that gave a fark besides writing tickets.
/They rather give you a ticket for petty shiat instead of getting the people yelling "weed, rocks, blows park".
//I live here


This.
 
2013-09-26 10:04:29 AM  

Raging Thespian: The only way to stop a bad student with a gun is a good student with a gun.


You are awesome.  I can't believe you are the Weeners this.  I'm going to favorite you.
 
2013-09-26 10:07:48 AM  

bdub77: reillan: The only way to stop a bad kid with a gun is a good kid with a gun.

Waiting for the NRA stand up for this kid.

Still waiting...


Well, you see, the "good kid" in this story is a total crock of shiat. When he goes through the work of actually being a legal gun owner, the NRA will ensure that his rights are protected.

/should I draw some pictures so that you can understand this?
 
2013-09-26 10:08:44 AM  
I'm inclined to believe his story... a better solution would probably have been to arrange secure transport to and from school. not sure how practical that is in chicago though.
 
2013-09-26 10:09:46 AM  

drjekel_mrhyde: doglover: NickelP: from the article they acknowledged that students have gangs causing safety issues on their way to school, so maybe a lot of the other students do feel the same way. maybe someone should do something about that.

If only Chicago had strict gun laws to stop these gangs. Oh wait, they do.
No! If only Chicago had police that gave a fark besides writing tickets.
/They rather give you a ticket for petty shiat instead of getting the people yelling "weed, rocks, blows park".
//I live here


I guess one of the kids that shot up the park technically should have never been walking the street as he was involved in a gun related crime earlier last year but was released to a 'boot camp' program where has he been locked up chances are both shootings that day never would have happened.
 
2013-09-26 10:13:52 AM  

enik: bdub77: reillan: The only way to stop a bad kid with a gun is a good kid with a gun.

Waiting for the NRA stand up for this kid.

Still waiting...

Well, you see, the "good kid" in this story is a total crock of shiat. When he goes through the work of actually being a legal gun owner, the NRA will ensure that his rights are protected.

/should I draw some pictures so that you can understand this?


Yeah I'm sure every gun owner in the NRA is a legal gun owner. LMAO.
 
2013-09-26 10:14:01 AM  

bdub77: Pretty sad, kid has a 4.0 and has a bunch of offers from various prestigious universities, and an interest in computer science.  As someone who grew up under the shadow of bullying I can totally see how someone would react this way especially given how bad gangs can be.

Having said that, his mom would probably be better off getting out of that area. Find a way. Your son is probably your future, find a way.

Also, Chicago PD should be all over this sh*t. They really need to learn some modern day policing techniques. My guess is there's a ton of corruption on the force.


The only logical solution to such wanton overachievement is a felony conviction that will ruin his life.
 
2013-09-26 10:15:12 AM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Holy fark, $75k bail? What the hell, that seems ridiculously high.


It's almost like making schools a 'gun free zone' has backfired by making them soft targets for idiots shooting people, resulting in a string of incidents that have forced the law to take stuff like this significantly more seriously than it perhaps deserves on its own terms.
 
2013-09-26 10:23:35 AM  
He may be in a gang and yet he might not.  Every body in Chicago should be allowed to carry a gun if they are not in a gang because everybody in a gang already has one.
 
2013-09-26 10:25:27 AM  
At least it wasn't a toy gun. Then he'd be in REAL trouble.
 
2013-09-26 10:27:09 AM  

ElStreak: DerAppie: NickelP: from the article they acknowledged that students have gangs causing safety issues on their way to school, so maybe a lot of the other students do feel the same way. maybe someone should do something about that.

They are doing something about it. The students have started a grass roots organisation in which they help each other defend themselves from the gangs. They are active in quite a few neighbourhoods and they seem quite effective in giving their members a feeling of safety.

A "grass roots organisation in which they help each other defend themselves from the gangs" sounds a lot like a gang to me.


[thatsthejoke.jpg]
 
2013-09-26 10:34:42 AM  
Well, now he won't have to worry about trying to get a permit to carry for protection in 4 years!

Self-solving problem.
 
2013-09-26 10:35:12 AM  

IdBeCrazyIf: drjekel_mrhyde: doglover: NickelP: from the article they acknowledged that students have gangs causing safety issues on their way to school, so maybe a lot of the other students do feel the same way. maybe someone should do something about that.

If only Chicago had strict gun laws to stop these gangs. Oh wait, they do.
No! If only Chicago had police that gave a fark besides writing tickets.
/They rather give you a ticket for petty shiat instead of getting the people yelling "weed, rocks, blows park".
//I live here

I guess one of the kids that shot up the park technically should have never been walking the street as he was involved in a gun related crime earlier last year but was released to a 'boot camp' program where has he been locked up chances are both shootings that day never would have happened.


  I try not to be a grammarian, but "shot up the park technically" made my brain hurt.
 
2013-09-26 10:35:33 AM  
That's pretty sad if the true story is that he had it for protection from the gangs. With an arrest record his college prospects might take a hit. Article painted him as a smart kid with a bright future. Too bad he couldn't go to school away from Chicago.
 
2013-09-26 10:37:01 AM  

skinink: Too bad he couldn't go to school away from Chicago.


Like Amish country
 
2013-09-26 10:37:40 AM  
<sarcasm>
Now, I realize that gang members can't read and have no access to the media; so I'm sure it's not an issue but...
</sarcasm>

This kid has been harassed by gang members between home and school and the media has posted his picture as someone who has carried a gun for protection. How is this supposed to pan out? If he really was being harassed, how does the media think the gang members will feel about one of their little pet projects contemplating lethal violence as self protection? They might take the high road and consider leaving him alone before someone catches a terminal case of "dead", but these are not rocket surgeons we're talking about. I imagine those mental midgets will just assume that a pre-emptive strike is in order.

If the story told is true, I am concerned for his safety.
 
2013-09-26 10:39:56 AM  

DerAppie: ElStreak: DerAppie: NickelP: from the article they acknowledged that students have gangs causing safety issues on their way to school, so maybe a lot of the other students do feel the same way. maybe someone should do something about that.

They are doing something about it. The students have started a grass roots organisation in which they help each other defend themselves from the gangs. They are active in quite a few neighbourhoods and they seem quite effective in giving their members a feeling of safety.

A "grass roots organisation in which they help each other defend themselves from the gangs" sounds a lot like a gang to me.

[thatsthejoke.jpg]


Like these guys the Guardian Angels.

They must recruit at leather bars.

news.bbcimg.co.uk
 
2013-09-26 10:41:51 AM  

bdub77: reillan: The only way to stop a bad kid with a gun is a good kid with a gun.

Waiting for the NRA stand up for this kid.

Still waiting...


Why would the NRA stand up for him?  He did something illegal.  Don't take a gun to school.  The NRA stands up for people who have done nothing illegal but are in trouble with the law.
 
2013-09-26 10:42:12 AM  

bdub77: Pretty sad, kid has a 4.0 and has a bunch of offers from various prestigious universities, and an interest in computer science. As someone who grew up under the shadow of bullying I can totally see how someone would react this way especially given how bad gangs can be.


Agreed.  I think he really was carrying only for self defense.
 
2013-09-26 10:43:53 AM  

ElStreak: DerAppie: NickelP: from the article they acknowledged that students have gangs causing safety issues on their way to school, so maybe a lot of the other students do feel the same way. maybe someone should do something about that.

They are doing something about it. The students have started a grass roots organisation in which they help each other defend themselves from the gangs. They are active in quite a few neighbourhoods and they seem quite effective in giving their members a feeling of safety.

A "grass roots organisation in which they help each other defend themselves from the gangs" sounds a lot like a gang to me.



Interesting. Citizens banding together to protect themselves because the so called "lawful authority" is unwilling or unable to do so. It is a shame they are not able to lawfully arm themselves to do so.

Progressives at his point would be mumbling something about a Somalian utopia and saying these citizens should just pay more taxes and hope government does a better job while not doing anything to provoke the criminals? Maybe organize some midnight basketball.
 
2013-09-26 10:52:19 AM  

The_Original_Roxtar: I'm inclined to believe his story... a better solution would probably have been to arrange secure transport to and from school. not sure how practical that is in chicago though.


Busing of any sort is almost non-existent in Chicago for students. Public transportation is subsidized for students, so that is one of the more common ways to get to and from school, but depending on where you're going from and trying to get to, that may not be the most convenient thing.
 
2013-09-26 10:52:43 AM  
This story just breaks my heart.
 
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