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2013-09-26 12:57:42 AM  
Really?  If you watch the whole at bat you'll notice that Gomez was unhinged from the get go.   He begins by jawing at Maholm to the effect of "yeah, I got you motherfarker" and then, when he misses, he walks almost onto the infield grass with his eyes on Maholm the whole time.   He thought Maholm had hit him on purpose some months ago so he was ranting like a nutbar.

Still, McCann shouldn't have gotten into his face, but I doubt any team wouldn't take exception to the way Gomez was acting.

Ok, Houston wouldn't.  They'd just be happy to be on Sportcenter for a few seconds.
 
2013-09-26 01:21:56 AM  
McCann appears to have some anger management problems, if his behavior over the past few weeks is any indication. Roid rage, maybe?
 
2013-09-26 02:22:36 AM  
The teams should get together next year and uber-troll the Braves. Every batter admire their home runs all next season.

/uber-trolling? or meta-trolling?
//too old to keep up with internet slang.
///or is it a meme?
////sigh
 
2013-09-26 02:26:44 AM  

stilted: The teams should get together next year and uber-troll the Braves. Every batter admire their home runs all next season.

/uber-trolling? or meta-trolling?
//too old to keep up with internet slang.
///or is it a meme?
////sigh


Wait for the Braves to play the Diamondbacks. Then the Braves can jump in the pool every time they hit a home run, and the D-Backs can admire their home runs until McCann is forced into his George Brett "WHAAAT! WHAAAAAT?!" impression.
 
2013-09-26 02:34:24 AM  

Cyberluddite: McCann appears to have some anger management problems, if his behavior over the past few weeks is any indication. Roid rage, maybe?


He needs to settle the hell down, but I wouldn't accuse him of steroids. I think they're just pissy because they've kicked ass so long this season but now they aren't so hot and they're behind the Cardinals for home-field advantage.
 
2013-09-26 02:43:07 AM  

dameron: Really? If you watch the whole at bat you'll notice that Gomez was unhinged from the get go. He begins by jawing at Maholm to the effect of "yeah, I got you motherfarker" and then, when he misses, he walks almost onto the infield grass with his eyes on Maholm the whole time. He thought Maholm had hit him on purpose some months ago so he was ranting like a nutbar.

Still, McCann shouldn't have gotten into his face, but I doubt any team wouldn't take exception to the way Gomez was acting.

Ok, Houston wouldn't. They'd just be happy to be on Sportcenter for a few seconds.


The 2013 Braves have a great Win-Loss record.  Unfortunately, it sucks that they keep being "victimized" by the play of other teams.  It almost seems like every time their opponents score a run, the Braves have been victimized by some unwritten rule.  Honestly, those poor guys are having a rough season.

It kills me if I'm playing the Braves.  I hit a home run?  Boom! I just broke an unwritten rule.  I hit a double?  Boom!  I just broke another unwritten rule.  I get hit by a pitch?  Boom!  I just broke another unwritten rule.

To tell you the truth, I can't wait until the Braves are done.  I'm tired of the unwritten rules they keep making up.  Can a team hit a home run against them without having broken one of these rules anymore?  I doubt it.
 
2013-09-26 02:56:16 AM  

violentsalvation: Cyberluddite: McCann appears to have some anger management problems, if his behavior over the past few weeks is any indication. Roid rage, maybe?

He needs to settle the hell down, but I wouldn't accuse him of steroids. I think they're just pissy because they've kicked ass so long this season but now they aren't so hot and they're behind the Cardinals for home-field advantage.


No, they are tied in the loss column and the Braves own the tie breaker...Technically behind but the loss column is what matters.  If they both lose the same amount of games the remainder of the week, the Braves get home field.

That said, no way the Braves will get home field.  The Cardinals get better in late Sept. and October...sadly, the Braves never.  Their line up appears to be in playoff form already.
 
2013-09-26 03:09:02 AM  

srhp29: That said, no way the Braves will get home field


Of course not.  They keep getting "victimized" by baseball's unwritten rules.  They don't have time to win...  Those poor guys are too busy keeping the game pure....
 
2013-09-26 03:13:57 AM  
Braves babies getting crabby about a team that isn't going anywhere.

Also there are like 3 people in the stands there.

Great fanbase, ATL.
 
2013-09-26 04:35:25 AM  
This one's all on Gomez. And I'm a Wisconsinite that despises the Braves and who would love to blame it on them. Gomez just lost his shiat from the word go and escalated things about 84 different times when he could have just stopped at any moment and allowed cooler heads to prevail. There was zero reason this needed to happen. Just take your revenge homer, be privately smug about it, run the bases like a normal person and shut up.
 
2013-09-26 05:48:40 AM  
What color is the sky in the world where the Braves started that?

Gomez has the crazy eyes going from the second he swings and misses at the first pitch and he is yelling at Maholm the second he leaves the battery's box (before any Braves player even acknowledges him).

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If people don't feel their favorite team would've reacted in the exact same manner if a player had done that, then I really don't know what else to say.
 
2013-09-26 06:40:19 AM  
Poor braves.

I feel for them and, judging from the video, their dozen fans.
 
2013-09-26 06:45:49 AM  
yeah, one team "started" and one team "escalated the living shiat" out of that situation.

we've all seen guys stand in the box too long. If Maholm is really that butthurt over it, he could've plunked Gomez yet again. But it's pretty rare to see the catcher blocking the basepath on a homerun, or someone run in from off the bench to punch the guy.

Braves are in the playoffs.  Be happy with that and go lose in front of no fans like usual and move on.
 
2013-09-26 06:51:30 AM  
Okayyy... in the last thread I defended the Braves because the pitcher for the other team who hit the home run in that case had been a douche bag all game. But now I am not sure what to think. Maybe the other incident was just made worse by the Braves too. Maybe this is just the type of team they are-- angry conceited jackasses who perceive the slightest body language and trash-talk as grave insults to their manliness.

There's been chatter up here by some fans and radio folks about trying to get McCann in the off-season to be our starting catcher since he'll be a free agent. Fark that, I'd rather stick with Salty. This guy's too high strung.
 
2013-09-26 06:59:04 AM  
Children behaving as such.
 
2013-09-26 07:52:55 AM  
Aren't these children so precious when they fight.
 
2013-09-26 07:57:32 AM  
I see the whole thing as great entertainment.
 
2013-09-26 07:59:45 AM  
Reed Johnson is a farking pussy. He throws a punch at Gomez, then hides behind Terry Pendleton the rest of the brawl.

And he better get suspended
 
2013-09-26 08:13:20 AM  
Wait for Game 3 of the NLCS. Braves fans will be throwing trash at the Cards from the lineups onward.
 
2013-09-26 08:14:13 AM  

sephjnr: Wait for Game 3 of the NLCS. Braves fans will be throwing trash at the Cards from the lineups onward.


Good for them.
 
2013-09-26 08:14:42 AM  

sephjnr: Wait for Game 3 of the NLCS. Braves fans will be throwing trash at the Cards from the lineups onward.


Game 1 (lower seed hosts first?)
 
2013-09-26 08:18:42 AM  

AlHarris31: Braves babies getting crabby about a team that isn't going anywhere.

Also there are like 3 people in the stands there.

Great fanbase, ATL.


A bleak, rainy midweek game against the Brewers that no one was sure was even going to be played. I'm surprised that many showed up.
 
2013-09-26 08:24:19 AM  
IT wasn't the admiring of the homerun that got the Braves wound up. It was the crazy eyes and strutting when Gomez swung and missed at the first pitch, then the slow trot around the bases and the jawing at Maholm THEN he points at his leg and says that's payback for when Maholm "threw" at him a couple months ago when he hit him with an off speed pitch. I am waiting for next season when they square off again. I think they open up against each other in Milwakee. Gomez will get plunked,
 
2013-09-26 08:40:25 AM  
While I am not a big fan of guys standing and watching a HR, there are a some things to remember.

Maholm DID hit Gomez earlier in the year.  Whether it was intentional or not, fastball or not, is irrelevant to some guys.  Gomez wanted to get back at him and this might have been the first chance he had since that AB.

Also, the Braves must think they are the keepers of the unwritten rule book because this keeps happening to them.  They yelled at Jose Fernandez a couple weeks ago when he admired a bomb he hit off them.  It appears that Johnson and McCann might want to investigate some anger managment classes in the off season.

I want the Braves fans to remember all this crap when BJ or Justin Upton stand at home and watch a HR go out of the park.   They have done that in the past, maybe not as dramatic as Gomez, but they still stand there and watch so I expect there to be no biatching when catchers do the same thing to them.

Lastly, i guess we have to talk about it here since no one was at the game to see it live.  Seriously, Atlanta fans are some of the worst in sports.  I remember some years ago, in the middle of their 14 division titles in a row, that they were having trouble selling out PLAYOFF games.  And yesterday they had 19000 people when they are playing for home field advantage.
 
2013-09-26 08:45:40 AM  
If you think every team is showing you up, then maybe - just maybe - the problem is you
 
2013-09-26 08:51:48 AM  
I'm amazed that both instances of the Braves overreacting ends with the other team apologizing. It's almost like they realize they did something wrong.
 
2013-09-26 09:15:12 AM  
Good for McCann and Freddie, Gomez was acting like a douche and got called out for doing so.

images.paxholley.net
 
2013-09-26 09:19:06 AM  

bluenote13: I want the Braves fans to remember all this crap when BJ or Justin Upton stand at home and watch a HR go out of the park.   They have done that in the past, maybe not as dramatic as Gomez, but they still stand there and watch so I expect there to be no biatching when catchers do the same thing to them.


First, I think if BJ hit another homer this year, he'd faint from shock and surprise. Second, yes, they might admire it for a second (nothing really wrong with that) but then they don't take their sweet time rounding the bases while jawing with the pitcher (something that everyone in this thread is glossing over: you do NOT talk shiat until after).

Lastly, i guess we have to talk about it here since no one was at the game to see it live.  Seriously, Atlanta fans are some of the worst in sports.  I remember some years ago, in the middle of their 14 division titles in a row, that they were having trouble selling out PLAYOFF games.  And yesterday they had 19000 people when they are playing for home field advantage.

Ah, yes. The "can't sell out a playoff game" argument. The games that were not sold out were games that took place at 4:00/5:00 in the freaking afternoon. Atlanta traffic is horrendous. Let's see you get off work, go home and pick up the family, then drive all the way to down town DURING RUSH HOUR. I don't seem to remember anybody saying anything when the Yankees barely sold out half the seats for playoff games recently. But let's not let facts get in the way of a good argument.
 
2013-09-26 09:20:22 AM  

bulldg4life: I'm amazed that both instances of the Braves overreacting ends with the other team apologizing. It's almost like they realize they did something wrong.


Just because Fernandez and Gomez apologized doesn't mean the Braves were right, it just means they admitted they were wrong in their own actions.

The over reactions by the Braves are totally different matters and, in this case, I think McCann should be disciplined with at least a couple games suspension.
 
2013-09-26 09:21:30 AM  

bulldg4life: I'm amazed that both instances of the Braves overreacting ends with the other team apologizing. It's almost like they realize they did something wrong.


Also something that no one has mentioned but the announcers did last night: when Gomez was rounding third, the Brewers third base coach didn't shake his hand and pat him on the back. He looked away and put his hands on his hips and ignored him. Even his own team thought he was being an ass hat.

/McCann should've knocked the shiat out of Gomez
 
2013-09-26 09:24:09 AM  
I guess next year when McCann is playing for another team and he does this to a Braves player, there will be no biatching from the Braves dugout.

Got it.
 
2013-09-26 09:26:58 AM  
Lot of Braves hate in here. Now I know how the Yankees fans feel.
 
2013-09-26 09:27:41 AM  

sephjnr: Wait for Game 3 of the NLCS. Braves fans will be throwing trash at the Cards from the lineups onward.


Haha, Braves fans showing up for a playoff game in time for the lineups... that is funny.
 
2013-09-26 09:50:39 AM  

bluenote13: I guess next year when McCann is playing for another team and he does this to a Braves player, there will be no biatching from the Braves dugout.

Got it.


I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that McCann isn't going to flip his bat, jog to first while yelling at the pitcher, yell at Freddie freeman, spit on the ground at Chris Johnson's feet, and then continue yelling at the pitcher.
 
2013-09-26 10:16:36 AM  

bluenote13: bulldg4life: I'm amazed that both instances of the Braves overreacting ends with the other team apologizing. It's almost like they realize they did something wrong.

Just because Fernandez and Gomez apologized doesn't mean the Braves were right, it just means they admitted they were wrong in their own actions.

The over reactions by the Braves are totally different matters and, in this case, I think McCann should be disciplined with at least a couple games suspension.


Johnson should get suspended for more (not that it would matter since he's awful)
 
2013-09-26 10:21:39 AM  
Did Gomez ever touch home plate?
 
2013-09-26 10:27:04 AM  

Expressed Written Consent: we've all seen guys stand in the box too long. If Maholm is really that butthurt over it, he could've plunked Gomez yet again. But it's pretty rare to see the catcher blocking the basepath on a homerun, or someone run in from off the bench to punch the guy.


Gomez was out of line.

But you can't block the path to the plate.  What the fark is that?  How is that not an ejection?
 
2013-09-26 10:34:23 AM  

Ponzholio: Did Gomez ever touch home plate?


nope.  But his run counts because McCann interferred.
 
2013-09-26 10:39:39 AM  

Cyberluddite: McCann appears to have some anger management problems, if his behavior over the past few weeks is any indication. Roid rage, maybe?


Nonsense. McCann is like an onion, lots of layers....
i.imgur.com
 
2013-09-26 11:32:24 AM  
Pretty sure the Braves aren't the ones who made up the unwritten rules, but if it seems like it happens to Atlanta a lot, you can blame Bobby Cox, who kept a notebook of players that needed to be retaliated against during his managerial career.

And Gomez can say he was getting back at Maholm, but any player can tell you that hitting the home run, admiring it, then putting your head down as you trot the bags is more than enough. Gomez was a douche bag that probably should not have gotten punched last night, but he's a guy that could still use a good punchin' every now and again in his daily life.

Also, day-long thunderstorm + meaningless Brewers game + LOLMARTA = me not being shocked at the crowd. You can knock Atlanta for having middle of the road attendance, but considering this city's way-too-farking-big footprint and the stadium's disconnect from the rest of downtown Atlanta, I'm shocked that there were THAT many folks there.

/NB4steamingpile
 
2013-09-26 12:37:59 PM  
Subby be trolling - Gomez tweeted his apology for causing the incident.  The Brewers 3rd base coach didn't even acknowledge his own player when he came around the basepaths - what does that tell you about the depths of bush league behaviour Gomez sunk to last night?
 
2013-09-26 12:51:21 PM  

sephjnr: sephjnr: Wait for Game 3 of the NLCS. Braves fans will be throwing trash at the Cards from the lineups onward.

Game 1 (lower seed hosts first?)


No, we're back to normal with the higher seed hosting Games 1, 2, and 5 in the Division Series.  Last year was an abberation because they added the second wild card and couldn't change the LDS, LCS and WS schedules because of the TV contracts, which is why the low seed hosted games 1-2 (with the higher getting 3-5) in the Division Series, thus eliminating a travel day.
 
2013-09-26 01:02:14 PM  
 
2013-09-26 01:17:44 PM  
There'd be no question on this one had the Braves not had the exact same problem a couple weeks ago. FWIW, Gomez was acting like a sh*theel and deserved to be confronted about his jackassery, but this on top of the Fernandez idiocy makes everyone look stupid. The Braves (the infield at least) are touchy assholes who can't sack up and deal with it when someone hits a bomb and Gomez is a total jackass who can't deal with it properly when he hits one.
 
2013-09-26 02:41:23 PM  
Oh look, baseball players acting like a bunch of petulant children. Oh wait, children aren't quite that pathetic.
 
2013-09-26 03:18:13 PM  
Billy Crystal Meth Lab: Also, day-long thunderstorm + meaningless Brewers game + LOLMARTA = me not being shocked at the crowd. You can knock Atlanta for having middle of the road attendance, but considering this city's way-too-farking-big footprint and the stadium's disconnect from the rest of downtown Atlanta, I'm shocked that there were THAT many folks there.

When you explain that Dodger Stadium is near the busiest freeway interchange in the world and in a canyon accessible only by a two lane road and a road leading up from Sunset + it can take 3 innings in a concession line to get a Dodger Dog, soda and ice cream, people who don't live here still repeat the tired old lie that Dodger fans show up in the 3rd and leave in the 7th.

I'm waiting for the NFL to announce that Frank McCourt is going to build an 80,000 seat stadium in the Dodger Stadium parking lot, that'll be fun on Sundays during the NFL season.
 
2013-09-26 03:23:42 PM  
wow, clearly no one here knows anything about baseball and the rule of the game. If you ever want to look at the cleanest winning club in the steroid era, look no further than the braves.
 
2013-09-26 04:27:12 PM  

GTATL: wow, clearly no one here knows anything about baseball and the rule of the game. If you ever want to look at the cleanest winning club in the steroid era, look no further than the braves.


Well...that has a lot to do with this discussion. Congrats on your pertinent analysis.
 
2013-09-26 04:30:53 PM  

bluenote13: While I am not a big fan of guys standing and watching a HR, there are a some things to remember.

Maholm DID hit Gomez earlier in the year.  Whether it was intentional or not, fastball or not, is irrelevant to some guys.  Gomez wanted to get back at him and this might have been the first chance he had since that AB.

Also, the Braves must think they are the keepers of the unwritten rule book because this keeps happening to them.  They yelled at Jose Fernandez a couple weeks ago when he admired a bomb he hit off them.  It appears that Johnson and McCann might want to investigate some anger managment classes in the off season.

I want the Braves fans to remember all this crap when BJ or Justin Upton stand at home and watch a HR go out of the park.   They have done that in the past, maybe not as dramatic as Gomez, but they still stand there and watch so I expect there to be no biatching when catchers do the same thing to them.

Lastly, i guess we have to talk about it here since no one was at the game to see it live.  Seriously, Atlanta fans are some of the worst in sports.  I remember some years ago, in the middle of their 14 division titles in a row, that they were having trouble selling out PLAYOFF games.  And yesterday they had 19000 people when they are playing for home field advantage.


I was visiting a friend in October in Atlanta a few years ago. Braves were in the playoffs. We walked up to the ballpark the day of the series-deciding game against the Giants and bought tickets--lots of open seats in the ballpark that night. Braves lost, were eliminated, and it was Bobby Cox's last game. If they can't sell out for a postseason elimination game and the final game for their future HOF'er manager, then damn...

//started a "Here We Go, STEE-LERS!!" chant on the way out after the game, and the hundreds of stunned faces suddenly whipping around at me were hilarious
 
2013-09-26 05:00:57 PM  

GTATL: wow, clearly no one here knows anything about baseball and the rule of the game. If you ever want to look at the cleanest winning club in the steroid era, look no further than the braves.


Yeah.  Everyone knows that Gary Sheffield was tons of clean.  Tons.

/every team had juicers.  Yes, your team too.
 
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