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2013-09-25 05:35:01 PM  
www.nobodygoeshere.com
I'll bet an ELF did this!
 
2013-09-25 05:38:09 PM  
I never trusted Wil Ferrell...
 
2013-09-25 05:56:51 PM  
I'm not a big fan of Will Ferrell either, but I wouldn't go on a shooting rampage over one of his movies.
 
2013-09-25 06:11:05 PM  
That's only true if he shot Will Ferrel.

I bet the real target was The Village People.
 
2013-09-25 06:11:35 PM  
I'm sure the cops will consider every possibility other than he was driven mad by ELF stalking.
 
2013-09-25 06:17:20 PM  
www.susanscustomcreepydolls.com

/Creepy
 
2013-09-25 06:49:57 PM  
After seeing that overrated piece of crap I can understand.
 
2013-09-25 06:51:07 PM  
Well, someone has to stand up to the Earth Liberation Front!
 
2013-09-25 07:03:41 PM  
Damn, is there anything Zooey Deshanel CAN'T inspire?
 
2013-09-25 07:24:37 PM  
 
2013-09-25 07:31:44 PM  

NewportBarGuy: Personally? I blame KLF

It's Three A.M., Three A.M.
It's Three A.M. eternal
Eternal

KLF is gonna rock you


farm4.static.flickr.com

Understandable.
 
2013-09-25 07:56:58 PM  
I guess it never is "too soon."

This week we all started to filter back to work and start finding our new normal.  Nothing like the release of this video to bring us all back to last week.

But I guess it's ok.  We all expected no less.
 
2013-09-25 08:05:07 PM  

doyner: I guess it never is "too soon."

This week we all started to filter back to work and start finding our new normal.  Nothing like the release of this video to bring us all back to last week.

But I guess it's ok.  We all expected no less.


There is a lot of stuff that needs to be looked at on this. After what he did here in Newport, and was reported to the NETC Newport, they should have forwarded that information to higher for review. They sat on it.

He was having psychotic episodes. NPD reported those episodes. Someone should have gotten involved after that report.
 
2013-09-25 08:10:13 PM  

NewportBarGuy: doyner: I guess it never is "too soon."

This week we all started to filter back to work and start finding our new normal.  Nothing like the release of this video to bring us all back to last week.

But I guess it's ok.  We all expected no less.

There is a lot of stuff that needs to be looked at on this. After what he did here in Newport, and was reported to the NETC Newport, they should have forwarded that information to higher for review. They sat on it.

He was having psychotic episodes. NPD reported those episodes. Someone should have gotten involved after that report.


I agree with you completely.  Releasing the video is still tasteless.  What purpose does it serve?

And yes, I'm a little biased, BTW.  This guy switched out SIPR machines in my office (a SCIF) Friday, September 13.
 
2013-09-25 08:10:39 PM  
That's unbelievable.
 
2013-09-25 08:23:16 PM  

doyner: Releasing the video is still tasteless. What purpose does it serve?

And yes, I'm a little biased, BTW. This guy switched out SIPR machines in my office (a SCIF) Friday, September 13.


It serves no purpose and should be the sole property of the investigators. I agree with you. Releasing it serves absolutely no public service.
 
2013-09-25 09:16:17 PM  

doyner: (a SCIF)


Some day remind me to tell you about the Arlington DHS site I worked on.
 
2013-09-25 09:22:17 PM  

syrynxx: That's unbelievable.


That's the one I was here for.

/OOOOOH!
//so unbelievable
 
2013-09-25 09:36:37 PM  
si0.twimg.com


Wanted for questioning
 
2013-09-25 09:41:56 PM  
You know, I complain about having allergies but DAAAAMMN, mental illness is a biatch.
 
2013-09-25 09:54:46 PM  
momentumbooks.com.au
 
2013-09-25 10:31:46 PM  
Emerson, Lake and Falmer? I listened to them in the 70's.
 
2013-09-25 10:39:48 PM  
I don't trust that little shiat on the shelf, either
 
2013-09-25 10:50:47 PM  
www.wallsave.com
 
2013-09-25 11:13:57 PM  
076dd0a50e0c1255009e-bd4b8aabaca29897bc751dfaf75b290c.r40.cf1.rackcdn.com
 
2013-09-25 11:16:12 PM  

ManateeGag: I'm not a big fan of Will Ferrell either, but I wouldn't go on a shooting rampage over one of his movies.


But what if it could stop one of his movies from being made?

/checkmate
 
2013-09-25 11:16:59 PM  

ManateeGag: I'm not a big fan of Will Ferrell either, but I wouldn't go on a shooting rampage over one of his movies.


How about Adam Sandler?

Every man has a breaking point...
 
2013-09-25 11:17:56 PM  
Ok, that movie only had one redeeming feature:

lh6.googleusercontent.com

I know it's caused me to fire off a few rounds...
 
2013-09-25 11:18:35 PM  
i.imgur.com

I'll admit, it's not as good as Dio's later material but that's no reason to go around shooting people.
 
2013-09-25 11:18:39 PM  
1.bp.blogspot.com

Was Rainbow also responsible?
 
2013-09-25 11:18:57 PM  

syrynxx: That's unbelievable.


Oh, what the fark?
 
2013-09-25 11:19:39 PM  
multiple 15 month combat tours with no time off in between

not this guy. but he was apparently already baked before he went into the Navy.
 
2013-09-25 11:21:31 PM  
Wanted for questioning:
encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com
 
2013-09-25 11:21:32 PM  
The good news is that after I invent my ultra-low-frequency mind-attack device, no one, and I mean no one, is going to believe those poor farkers.
 
2013-09-25 11:22:45 PM  

Mad_Radhu: [momentumbooks.com.au image 640x364]


That's Mr. Mulder to you, you peanut-picking bastard.


/great episode
 
2013-09-25 11:22:58 PM  

Snapper Carr: I'll admit, it's not as good as Dio's later material but that's no reason to go around shooting people.


\m/ \m/
 
2013-09-25 11:23:28 PM  

shanrick: Emerson, Lake and Falmer? I listened to them in the 70's.


Emerson
i.imgur.com

Lake
2.bp.blogspot.com

Falmer
i.imgur.com
 
2013-09-25 11:24:49 PM  

fusillade762: NewportBarGuy: Personally? I blame KLF

It's Three A.M., Three A.M.
It's Three A.M. eternal
Eternal

KLF is gonna rock you

[farm4.static.flickr.com image 500x348]

Understandable.


Impossible. KLF is Justified and Ancient.
 
2013-09-25 11:24:53 PM  
I never did trust that grinning little bastard.

i1126.photobucket.com

Always watching... always judging... probably whispering things.
 
2013-09-25 11:25:13 PM  
(He's an angry ELF)
 
2013-09-25 11:26:05 PM  

NewportBarGuy: Releasing it serves absolutely no public service.


sure it does, all the CC folks can now know how to launch a counter attack. why if just one CC holder was there this guy would have been stopped cold.

sorry doyner but i wanted to preempt the CC crowd.
 
2013-09-25 11:26:28 PM  
That's funny, sort of. In one of the other threads... someone jokingly blamed ELF for him going batshiat.
 
2013-09-25 11:26:34 PM  
Unbelievable
 
2013-09-25 11:27:11 PM  

syrynxx: That's unbelievable.


damnit
 
2013-09-25 11:27:36 PM  
Is there any chance that radio waves might had really been messing with this fool's head?
 
2013-09-25 11:27:50 PM  
A paranoid gun enthusiast? What was his Fark handle?
 
2013-09-25 11:28:51 PM  
That's a little overboard, I'd say. Some of their later stuff was pretty commercial but their early work is classic.
 
2013-09-25 11:29:19 PM  

Skyrmion: The good news is that after I invent my ultra-low-frequency mind-attack device, no one, and I mean no one, is going to believe those poor farkers.


Hit me with your best shot.
www.digitalfox.com
I'm ready.
 
2013-09-25 11:29:57 PM  
The moral of the story is that ensuring that the mentally ill don't have access to guns will only make mentally ill owners of legal guns less likely to seek treatment for their mental illnesses, which they don't do anyways because they own massive amounts of guns.
 
2013-09-25 11:30:45 PM  

Snapper Carr: shanrick: Emerson, Lake and Falmer? I listened to them in the 70's.

Emerson
[i.imgur.com image 630x420]

Lake
[2.bp.blogspot.com image 400x267]

Falmer
[i.imgur.com image 586x329]


Bonus points for the fact that falmer are elves.
 
2013-09-25 11:31:44 PM  

Mad_Radhu: [momentumbooks.com.au image 640x364]


Really good episode. Doesn't hurt that it has Brian Cranston.
 
2013-09-25 11:31:53 PM  
So, I'm the only one who read that initially and thought... "So, he was an radical Environmentalist?"
 
2013-09-25 11:32:21 PM  

Arachnophobe: I never did trust that grinning little bastard.

[i1126.photobucket.com image 250x400]

Always watching... always judging... probably whispering things.


He can't help being a misfit.
3.bp.blogspot.com
He really just wants to be a dentist.
 
2013-09-25 11:32:59 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org

farking liberals
 
2013-09-25 11:36:39 PM  
chloegetsaclue.com

He's always to blame.
 
2013-09-25 11:37:56 PM  

raerae1980: You know, I complain about having allergies but DAAAAMMN, mental illness is a biatch.


Yeah...it is.

But its not always like the murderous people you see in the news.

It doesnt have to mean you spend your life in an institution or a zombie. Many people with "mental illnesses" take vigilant responsibility for themselves and ensuring they stay well.

I am an advanced-practice nurse. I specialize in trauma. My whole career is focused on saving the lives of people who would otherwise die.

I also have bipolar disorder. (Okay, its technically not a true mental illness, but close enough to make my point). Ive learned how to actually use some of the symptoms to my advantage (being able to think ungodly fast, a near-photographic memory, my ability to connect, etc). I am also one of only TWO APN's in my state classified as "Magnet Status" nurses...in the top 0.5% of nurses in my field.

I stay on the meds..i am constantly acutely aware of my status, and take responsibility for doing everything I can to stay stable.

Mental illness does not make one less-than.
 
2013-09-25 11:38:06 PM  
By all means let's give this twisted fark some more publicity.
 
2013-09-25 11:38:19 PM  
Another tragic case of the boy who cried ELF.
 
2013-09-25 11:40:06 PM  

toraque: Well, someone has to stand up to the Earth Liberation Front!


Environmentalists are behind everything!
 
2013-09-25 11:40:56 PM  
I'd probably go crazy too if I had ELO playing in my head 24/7.
 
2013-09-25 11:42:23 PM  

Curious: NewportBarGuy: Releasing it serves absolutely no public service.

sure it does, all the CC folks can now know how to launch a counter attack. why if just one CC holder was there this guy would have been stopped cold.

sorry doyner but i wanted to preempt the CC crowd.


S'all good.  I'm rather calloused to it.  A more philosophical view coupled with my own statistical realism is enough for now.

But thanks for the consideration.
 
2013-09-25 11:42:27 PM  
Strange, I thought people started getting schizophrenia in their early 20s, either he was medicated before this or he is faking it IMO.
 
2013-09-25 11:45:36 PM  
It saddens me though to see so many people making fun of someone who was obviously very sick.

Remember charlie sheen's hypomania and the cruel shiat said?

THAT is EXACTLY the kind of stigma and shaming that makes people too ashamed to seek the help that they need.

What this guy did was terrible. Perhaps it would never have happened if we stop treating mental illness and the people who suffer from it with such ridicule.
 
2013-09-25 11:46:12 PM  
No one likes an elf, they get a bonus just for helping, that's why you should try to get someone else in the party to help you
 
2013-09-25 11:46:17 PM  

Lars The Canadian Viking: Strange, I thought people started getting schizophrenia in their early 20s, either he was medicated before this or he is faking it IMO.


*facepalm*
 
2013-09-25 11:46:52 PM  
20 years from now, declassified documents are going to confirm that the military really was sending him low-frequency mind-control messages.

What if all those schizos are completely correct...and we don't believe them because they're crazy?
 
2013-09-25 11:46:53 PM  

Kenny B: By all means let's give this twisted fark some more publicity.


He's dead so... it's probably OK. I for one would like to see more publicity about this, as the core of the newsworthiness is how a seriously mentally ill person was able to buy a gun and keep access to a supposedly secure military facility in the first place.
 
2013-09-25 11:47:43 PM  
Que Politician blaming fantasy MMO games that feature elves as playable characters
 
2013-09-25 11:48:52 PM  

NewportBarGuy: Personally? I blame KLF

It's Three A.M., Three A.M.
It's Three A.M. eternal
Eternal

KLF is gonna rock you


The ancients of mumu

I owned this...on tape
 
2013-09-25 11:49:52 PM  
FTFA: "Sawed-off shotgun"

LOL
 
2013-09-25 11:50:05 PM  

The more you eat the more you fart: raerae1980: You know, I complain about having allergies but DAAAAMMN, mental illness is a biatch.

Yeah...it is.

But its not always like the murderous people you see in the news.

It doesnt have to mean you spend your life in an institution or a zombie. Many people with "mental illnesses" take vigilant responsibility for themselves and ensuring they stay well.

I am an advanced-practice nurse. I specialize in trauma. My whole career is focused on saving the lives of people who would otherwise die.

I also have bipolar disorder. (Okay, its technically not a true mental illness, but close enough to make my point). Ive learned how to actually use some of the symptoms to my advantage (being able to think ungodly fast, a near-photographic memory, my ability to connect, etc). I am also one of only TWO APN's in my state classified as "Magnet Status" nurses...in the top 0.5% of nurses in my field.

I stay on the meds..i am constantly acutely aware of my status, and take responsibility for doing everything I can to stay stable.

Mental illness does not make one less-than.


Amen.

Although a friend's brother is a Type I diabetic and an anesthesiologist. I've always wondered about his insurance rates. Among other things.
 
2013-09-25 11:53:59 PM  
Is an ELF a new type of AR15?
 
2013-09-25 11:54:37 PM  

Curious: why if just one CC holder was there this guy would have been stopped cold


How is an AmEx or MasterCard going to stop a mass murder?
 
2013-09-25 11:55:57 PM  

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: The moral of the story is that ensuring that the mentally ill don't have access to guns will only make mentally ill owners of legal guns less likely to seek treatment for their mental illnesses, which they don't do anyways because they own massive amounts of guns.


Actually...this ^ sad as it is. My dad is developing Alzheimer's and at his age, with the collection he has I worry for the safety of his new family ala Junior Soprano
 
2013-09-25 11:56:42 PM  

The more you eat the more you fart: I stay on the meds..i am constantly acutely aware of my status, and take responsibility for doing everything I can to stay stable.


Thank you.
 
2013-09-25 11:57:19 PM  
Elf?

horrorhomework.com
 
2013-09-25 11:57:24 PM  

TheShavingofOccam123: The more you eat the more you fart: raerae1980: You know, I complain about having allergies but DAAAAMMN, mental illness is a biatch.

Yeah...it is.

But its not always like the murderous people you see in the news.

It doesnt have to mean you spend your life in an institution or a zombie. Many people with "mental illnesses" take vigilant responsibility for themselves and ensuring they stay well.

I am an advanced-practice nurse. I specialize in trauma. My whole career is focused on saving the lives of people who would otherwise die.

I also have bipolar disorder. (Okay, its technically not a true mental illness, but close enough to make my point). Ive learned how to actually use some of the symptoms to my advantage (being able to think ungodly fast, a near-photographic memory, my ability to connect, etc). I am also one of only TWO APN's in my state classified as "Magnet Status" nurses...in the top 0.5% of nurses in my field.

I stay on the meds..i am constantly acutely aware of my status, and take responsibility for doing everything I can to stay stable.

Mental illness does not make one less-than.

Amen.

Although a friend's brother is a Type I diabetic and an anesthesiologist. I've always wondered about his insurance rates. Among other things.


I couldnt even begin to explain what its like...so i rarely even try.

However..my insurance rates are higher than average, but not by a huge amount.
 
2013-09-25 11:59:50 PM  

HotWingAgenda: The more you eat the more you fart: I stay on the meds..i am constantly acutely aware of my status, and take responsibility for doing everything I can to stay stable.

Thank you.


Oh...and i also own several firearms. Im a lifelong hunter. Strangely to some of you, ive never gone on a shooting rampage.
 
2013-09-26 12:05:56 AM  
Can we blame Art Bell and George Nouri for promulgating and giving air time to this cockamamie theory?
If Rush Limbaugh  is scripting the Republican agenda those two airheads have giving marching orders to lots of wack jobs.
 
2013-09-26 12:09:42 AM  

The more you eat the more you fart: raerae1980: You know, I complain about having allergies but DAAAAMMN, mental illness is a biatch.

Yeah...it is.

But its not always like the murderous people you see in the news.

It doesnt have to mean you spend your life in an institution or a zombie. Many people with "mental illnesses" take vigilant responsibility for themselves and ensuring they stay well.

I am an advanced-practice nurse. I specialize in trauma. My whole career is focused on saving the lives of people who would otherwise die.

I also have bipolar disorder. (Okay, its technically not a true mental illness, but close enough to make my point). Ive learned how to actually use some of the symptoms to my advantage (being able to think ungodly fast, a near-photographic memory, my ability to connect, etc). I am also one of only TWO APN's in my state classified as "Magnet Status" nurses...in the top 0.5% of nurses in my field.

I stay on the meds..i am constantly acutely aware of my status, and take responsibility for doing everything I can to stay stable.

Mental illness does not make one less-than.


Good for you! But we are our brains, and when our brains are defective then it might not be possible for them to "take vigilant responsibility for themselves and ensuring they stay well"  even under medication.
 
2013-09-26 12:09:50 AM  
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-09-26 12:11:19 AM  

talkertopc: The more you eat the more you fart: raerae1980: You know, I complain about having allergies but DAAAAMMN, mental illness is a biatch.

Yeah...it is.

But its not always like the murderous people you see in the news.

It doesnt have to mean you spend your life in an institution or a zombie. Many people with "mental illnesses" take vigilant responsibility for themselves and ensuring they stay well.

I am an advanced-practice nurse. I specialize in trauma. My whole career is focused on saving the lives of people who would otherwise die.

I also have bipolar disorder. (Okay, its technically not a true mental illness, but close enough to make my point). Ive learned how to actually use some of the symptoms to my advantage (being able to think ungodly fast, a near-photographic memory, my ability to connect, etc). I am also one of only TWO APN's in my state classified as "Magnet Status" nurses...in the top 0.5% of nurses in my field.

I stay on the meds..i am constantly acutely aware of my status, and take responsibility for doing everything I can to stay stable.

Mental illness does not make one less-than.

Good for you! But we are our brains, and when our brains are defective then it might not be possible for them to "take vigilant responsibility for themselves and ensuring they stay well"  even under medication.


Not all mental illness = "defective brain"
 
2013-09-26 12:14:21 AM  
'sigh' it's just a simple option to enable a.out binary support. Doesn't anyone compile their own linux kernels anymore?
 
2013-09-26 12:18:26 AM  

The more you eat the more you fart: HotWingAgenda: The more you eat the more you fart: I stay on the meds..i am constantly acutely aware of my status, and take responsibility for doing everything I can to stay stable.

Thank you.

Oh...and i also own several firearms. Im a lifelong hunter. Strangely to some of you, ive never gone on a shooting rampage.


As you aptly pointed out, bipolar disorder isn't really insanity. It's fully manageable if the person, like you, has a modicum of responsibility and discipline, and access to the right chemicals to restore balance. I have people in my life with paranoid schizophrenia; there is no real treatment for that, aside from antipsychotics which only blunt the symptoms. Based on his behavior and the nature and manifestation of his delusions, the guy that shot up the Navy Yard also was paranoid schizophrenic. My mother has the exact same delusion that he had about being microwaved and mind-controlled.
 
2013-09-26 12:21:44 AM  

One Bad Apple: [si0.twimg.com image 500x500]


Wanted for questioning

sexual gratification

/empties load, but nobody gets hurt
 
2013-09-26 12:24:58 AM  

syrynxx: That's unbelievable.


OH REALLY?

You think the military would develop a technology to do EXACTLY THIS and not actually USE it?
 
2013-09-26 12:26:47 AM  

rwa2: 'sigh' it's just a simple option to enable a.out binary support. Doesn't anyone compile their own linux kernels anymore?


I miss the easy Wine integration with binfmt_misc...
 
2013-09-26 12:29:37 AM  

rwa2: 'sigh' it's just a simple option to enable a.out binary support. Doesn't anyone compile their own linux kernels anymore?


After several days attempting to implement support for some weird hardware and failing to get to a bootable state, I think we can all understand feeling a little shooty.
 
2013-09-26 12:31:51 AM  

HotWingAgenda: The more you eat the more you fart: HotWingAgenda: The more you eat the more you fart: I stay on the meds..i am constantly acutely aware of my status, and take responsibility for doing everything I can to stay stable.

Thank you.

Oh...and i also own several firearms. Im a lifelong hunter. Strangely to some of you, ive never gone on a shooting rampage.

As you aptly pointed out, bipolar disorder isn't really insanity. It's fully manageable if the person, like you, has a modicum of responsibility and discipline, and access to the right chemicals to restore balance. I have people in my life with paranoid schizophrenia; there is no real treatment for that, aside from antipsychotics which only blunt the symptoms. Based on his behavior and the nature and manifestation of his delusions, the guy that shot up the Navy Yard also was paranoid schizophrenic. My mother has the exact same delusion that he had about being microwaved and mind-controlled.


Im sorry for what you mother suffers from and theyour impact it (probably) has on you and yours.

However..my original point was that until peotheple wake up and have some compassion, and stop treating the mentally ill like circus sideshows or with contempt, those that have them will understandably be reticent to seek treatment.

The first thought that went through MY mind when i was diagnosed was, sadly "Oh my God...there goes my marriage and my friends." Sadly, i was largely correct on both counts.

we would never make fun of someone with cancer...but a schizophrenic who is convinced demons have possessed him and the fbi is controlling his thoughts is funny shiat right?
 
2013-09-26 12:32:19 AM  

President Merkin Muffley: syrynxx: That's unbelievable.

OH REALLY?

You think the military would develop a technology to do EXACTLY THIS and not actually USE it?


Oh for pete's sake. The guy was mentally ill, the system failed him, he acted on his madness and tragedy ensued. It's sad, but he had a long, weird history of weirdness.

If he'd thought the Russians were monitoring him by satellite, the existence of Russia and satellites doesn't make that MORE credible. It just makes him the same kind of crazy in a different flavor.

/or if he had Morgellons, vapor trails, Truman show delusions, or a million other ways schizos go according to taste and timing.
 
2013-09-26 12:33:40 AM  
God, I hate the Linux executable file format, too, but I'm not going to go shoot up a Navy base over it...
 
2013-09-26 12:35:45 AM  

Arachnophobe: I never did trust that grinning little bastard.

[i1126.photobucket.com image 250x400]

Always watching... always judging... probably whispering things.


Oh. My. God. My parents had that little guy. I can remember hauling him out every Christmas. Wow.
 
2013-09-26 12:37:37 AM  

The more you eat the more you fart: we would never make fun of someone with cancer...but a schizophrenic who is convinced demons have possessed him and the fbi is controlling his thoughts is funny shiat right?


Sure, right up until they try to kill you in your sleep. Or walk into your office with a shotgun.

I'm probably just too close to this to see the humor.
 
2013-09-26 12:41:15 AM  

HotWingAgenda: The more you eat the more you fart: we would never make fun of someone with cancer...but a schizophrenic who is convinced demons have possessed him and the fbi is controlling his thoughts is funny shiat right?

Sure, right up until they try to kill you in your sleep. Or walk into your office with a shotgun.

I'm probably just too close to this to see the humor.


Um..perhaps u missed the fact that im actually agreeing with you?
 
2013-09-26 12:44:04 AM  

The more you eat the more you fart: raerae1980: You know, I complain about having allergies but DAAAAMMN, mental illness is a biatch.

Yeah...it is.

But its not always like the murderous people you see in the news.

It doesnt have to mean you spend your life in an institution or a zombie. Many people with "mental illnesses" take vigilant responsibility for themselves and ensuring they stay well.

I am an advanced-practice nurse. I specialize in trauma. My whole career is focused on saving the lives of people who would otherwise die.

I also have bipolar disorder. (Okay, its technically not a true mental illness, but close enough to make my point). Ive learned how to actually use some of the symptoms to my advantage (being able to think ungodly fast, a near-photographic memory, my ability to connect, etc). I am also one of only TWO APN's in my state classified as "Magnet Status" nurses...in the top 0.5% of nurses in my field.

I stay on the meds..i am constantly acutely aware of my status, and take responsibility for doing everything I can to stay stable.

Mental illness does not make one less-than.


Which is our responsibility. I also am bipolar, type I rapid cycler (and if there's anything less fun, it is only schizophrenia), and I push constantly for changes in the laws that would let people intervene more intensively in the lives of people like Alexis BEFORE it comes to this, without excessive infringement on his civil rights. We have reached, I think, a tipping point in society where that line needs to be redrawn. A closer scrutiny of this man's background would have prevented him ever having either access to firearms or access to the Navy Yard; and better mental health care would have gotten him treatment (possibly against his immediate will) before he was so far gone he was hearing voices commanding him to kill.

Society needs to acknowledge that treating those who have command hallucinations is simply NOT a violation of their "civil rights" because they are obeying orders that a reasonable, rational person would not want to obey. Does anyone truly think Alexis sane would have done what Alexis insane ultimately did? But because of the laws now in place, his therapist could only let him go after this troubled man told him he was hearing voices telling him to kill. Because those voices had not given him commands specific enough to warrant "a threat to others."

At some point, perhaps we will grow up enough as a society to balance the needs of everyone and admit that we can care for the mentally ill even if it means partially suspending their right to choose for a short period of time. And I say that as one who might have to have her rights partially suspended for a short period of time. If I were hearing voices commanding me to kill, I would hope someone would do that before it was necessary for a police sniper to take me down.
 
2013-09-26 12:47:22 AM  
And I can't get it out of my head (ooo-oo)
No, I can't get it out of my head (ooo-oo)
Now I'm leaving co-workers for dead
Cause I can't get it out of my head, no no, no no
 
2013-09-26 12:48:00 AM  
ELF responsible?

No way.

Greyface and the MC5 lie!
 
2013-09-26 12:50:31 AM  
Gyrfalcon

I am also type 1..but no rapid cycling.

I think most people just cannot understand to be honest.


Well..obviously they cannot unless they too have it, but you know what I mean.

For me, my main two symptoms are severe insomnia and crushing, paralyzing emotional pain without a clear cause...usually.

I was just saying...its not a death sentence if everyone would wake up.

I also agree..rules suspended for those obviously in trouble.
 
2013-09-26 12:52:26 AM  

Arachnophobe: I never did trust that grinning little bastard.

[i1126.photobucket.com image 250x400]

Always watching... always judging... probably whispering things.


Snitches get stitches.
 
2013-09-26 12:55:03 AM  
sooo I know everyone is masturbating to Will Ferrel right now, but I'm gonna go ahead and say, that Very Low Frequency sound certainly can be weaponized, and can have very strong effects on the human body.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infrasound
this doesn't go into the weaponization but if I recall, any weapons using this were banned by treaty, but I could be wrong.
Either way, I do not even a little bit believe he was being subjected to such a weapon.
 
2013-09-26 01:04:57 AM  

rwa2: 'sigh' it's just a simple option to enable a.out binary support. Doesn't anyone compile their own linux kernels anymore?


Sadly, came here for the a.out joke.
 
2013-09-26 01:09:22 AM  
wasnt me....or was it?


nope....im very nice
 
2013-09-26 01:11:30 AM  
Probably one of those Teleri bastards.
 
2013-09-26 01:11:46 AM  
www.mememaker.net
 
2013-09-26 01:13:52 AM  

Spartan_Manhandler: rwa2: 'sigh' it's just a simple option to enable a.out binary support. Doesn't anyone compile their own linux kernels anymore?

Sadly, came here for the a.out joke.


If the object was to build a library of obscure coder puns, you're definitely in a sane environment.
 
2013-09-26 01:16:13 AM  
god blessed him with the ability to hear whales speaking.

unfortunately, he never really understood the gift,

=/
 
2013-09-26 01:39:15 AM  

shanrick: Emerson, Lake and Falmer? I listened to them in the 70's.


I'm not proud of this, but when ELP released Works Vol. 1 when I was 17 years old, it was my favorite album for the whole summer.
 
2013-09-26 02:09:21 AM  
A A Ron, finally gave in to the pressure of Key and Peale if you ask me.

The continually called him chicanerous and deplorable.
 
2013-09-26 02:10:43 AM  

HotWingAgenda: Curious: why if just one CC holder was there this guy would have been stopped cold

How is an AmEx or MasterCard going to stop a mass murder?


You can charge the gunman, duh!
 
2013-09-26 02:14:10 AM  
yes look at the area surrounding happy bowl restaurant. very spooky military industrial complex shiat there
 
2013-09-26 02:19:42 AM  
Don't they use ELF to send basic messages to subs at sea....maybe he thought he was a sub.
 
2013-09-26 02:21:57 AM  

rwa2: 'sigh' it's just a simple option to enable a.out binary support. Doesn't anyone compile their own linux kernels anymore?


Gentoo or go back to Windows.
 
FNG [TotalFark]
2013-09-26 02:31:45 AM  
The Navy stopped using the ELF system a long time ago, according to the news.
 
2013-09-26 02:39:01 AM  

ficklefkrfark: Don't they use ELF to send basic messages to subs at sea....maybe he thought he was a sub.


That would explain the geek mask.
 
2013-09-26 03:04:09 AM  
www.zephyrtechnology.com

/Apparently, you can buy this thing on the internets.
//Still can't buy a proper camera
 
2013-09-26 03:36:35 AM  
still no video from sandy hook...
just after they revamped their entire security system.
 
2013-09-26 05:45:47 AM  
Immanentize the eschaton!
 
2013-09-26 06:09:05 AM  

HindiDiscoMonster: The more you eat the more you fart: It saddens me though to see so many people making fun of someone who was obviously very sick.

Remember charlie sheen's hypomania and the cruel shiat said?

THAT is EXACTLY the kind of stigma and shaming that makes people too ashamed to seek the help that they need.

What this guy did was terrible. Perhaps it would never have happened if we stop treating mental illness and the people who suffer from it with such ridicule.

I have learned on fark that shaming people is not only acceptable but admired, and something about bootstraps.


Yeah well...then it should be no surprise when things like this keep happening.
 
2013-09-26 06:10:44 AM  
With no accountability and a black budget, nothing surprises me about this.
 
2013-09-26 06:25:29 AM  
Damm tree huggers at the Earth Liberation Front are always causing trouble.
 
2013-09-26 06:28:19 AM  
Phew! For a moment there, I read that as "a note blaming ELO".
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-09-26 06:35:20 AM  
Why did TFA say he was using a sawed-off shotgun? The surveillance image shows a standard Remington pump. I'm assuming that the reporter suffers from the usual journalist's ignorance of firearms (insert appropriate image here).
 
2013-09-26 06:41:42 AM  

BMulligan: shanrick: Emerson, Lake and Falmer? I listened to them in the 70's.

I'm not proud of this, but when ELP released Works Vol. 1 when I was 17 years old, it was my favorite album for the whole summer.


Eh, no worries...Brain Salad Surgery for me.  Loved the cover so much, I still have it, even though I don't own a record player anymore.

/It was the 70's
//stop judging me
///it's still better than some of the crap out there
 
2013-09-26 06:54:21 AM  

The more you eat the more you fart: raerae1980: You know, I complain about having allergies but DAAAAMMN, mental illness is a biatch.

Yeah...it is.

But its not always like the murderous people you see in the news.

It doesnt have to mean you spend your life in an institution or a zombie. Many people with "mental illnesses" take vigilant responsibility for themselves and ensuring they stay well.

I am an advanced-practice nurse. I specialize in trauma. My whole career is focused on saving the lives of people who would otherwise die.

I also have bipolar disorder. (Okay, its technically not a true mental illness, but close enough to make my point). Ive learned how to actually use some of the symptoms to my advantage (being able to think ungodly fast, a near-photographic memory, my ability to connect, etc). I am also one of only TWO APN's in my state classified as "Magnet Status" nurses...in the top 0.5% of nurses in my field.

I stay on the meds..i am constantly acutely aware of my status, and take responsibility for doing everything I can to stay stable.

Mental illness does not make one less-than.


I don't think you grasp the hugeness of the typical Farker's need to see somebody - anybody else as "less-than".
 
2013-09-26 07:09:47 AM  

Gyrfalcon: The more you eat the more you fart: raerae1980: You know, I complain about having allergies but DAAAAMMN, mental illness is a biatch.

Yeah...it is.

But its not always like the murderous people you see in the news.

It doesnt have to mean you spend your life in an institution or a zombie. Many people with "mental illnesses" take vigilant responsibility for themselves and ensuring they stay well.

I am an advanced-practice nurse. I specialize in trauma. My whole career is focused on saving the lives of people who would otherwise die.

I also have bipolar disorder. (Okay, its technically not a true mental illness, but close enough to make my point). Ive learned how to actually use some of the symptoms to my advantage (being able to think ungodly fast, a near-photographic memory, my ability to connect, etc). I am also one of only TWO APN's in my state classified as "Magnet Status" nurses...in the top 0.5% of nurses in my field.

I stay on the meds..i am constantly acutely aware of my status, and take responsibility for doing everything I can to stay stable.

Mental illness does not make one less-than.

Which is our responsibility. I also am bipolar, type I rapid cycler (and if there's anything less fun, it is only schizophrenia), and I push constantly for changes in the laws that would let people intervene more intensively in the lives of people like Alexis BEFORE it comes to this, without excessive infringement on his civil rights. We have reached, I think, a tipping point in society where that line needs to be redrawn. A closer scrutiny of this man's background would have prevented him ever having either access to firearms or access to the Navy Yard; and better mental health care would have gotten him treatment (possibly against his immediate will) before he was so far gone he was hearing voices commanding him to kill.

Society needs to acknowledge that treating those who have command hallucinations is simply NOT a violation of their "civil rights" because they are obeying orders that a reasonable, rational person would not want to obey. Does anyone truly think Alexis sane would have done what Alexis insane ultimately did? But because of the laws now in place, his therapist could only let him go after this troubled man told him he was hearing voices telling him to kill. Because those voices had not given him commands specific enough to warrant "a threat to others."

At some point, perhaps we will grow up enough as a society to balance the needs of everyone and admit that we can care for the mentally ill even if it means partially suspending their right to choose for a short period of time. And I say that as one who might have to have her rights partially suspended for a short period of time. If I were hearing voices commanding me to kill, I would hope someone would do that before it was necessary for a police sniper to take me down.


The ACLU would disagree with you. I wouldn't, a long as there real time controls in place.

We just can't let ourselves get back to having grandma committed to get to her money levels of hospitalization.
 
2013-09-26 07:47:43 AM  
i.ytimg.com
ELectronic Flux weapon?

/Earthseige 2. Taking ya'll back to 1995 biatches!
//"I can't engage, My HERC is too shot up for that!" Fark you Gary, your HERC is *always* 'too shot up' to help.
 
2013-09-26 07:53:11 AM  
If it really was ELF, he would have had to keep driving west to keep his head from exploding.

images4.wikia.nocookie.net

/Season 6, Ep 2: Drive
// What was his plan once he hit the pacific? Start swimming?
 
2013-09-26 08:03:15 AM  

loonatic112358: No one likes an elf, they get a bonus just for helping, that's why you should try to get someone else in the party to help you


I will help you for second pick of treasure...
 
2013-09-26 08:10:43 AM  
Another tape found at the scene told a different story. . .

jayandsilentbob.com
 
2013-09-26 08:12:18 AM  

doyner: I guess it never is "too soon."

This week we all started to filter back to work and start finding our new normal.  Nothing like the release of this video to bring us all back to last week.

But I guess it's ok.  We all expected no less.


  Don't watch the videos then.  I doubt anyone is forcing you to do so.
 
2013-09-26 08:14:26 AM  
138.54 Khz?
 
2013-09-26 08:36:20 AM  

KellyX: Que Politician blaming fantasy MMO games that feature elves as playable characters


lifeafterbread.co.uk

/I also came for the a.out/ELF joke...
 
2013-09-26 08:39:09 AM  
If anyone was going to go batshiat crazy over the Executable and Linkable Format in Linux, I'd have thought it'd be Darl McBride.

/RIP Groklaw
 
2013-09-26 08:56:56 AM  

manimal2878: Don't watch the videos then. I doubt anyone is forcing you to do so.


I'm not.  The one time I saw it was inadvertant.
 
2013-09-26 08:57:47 AM  

RobSeace: KellyX: Que Politician blaming fantasy MMO games that feature elves as playable characters



/I also came for the a.out/ELF joke...


Fawlty Towers. Great show lol
 
2013-09-26 09:29:50 AM  
This thread is missing pictures of Peter Dinklage.
 
2013-09-26 09:30:10 AM  
Video of shooter with his gun:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Pt7jQuazMA
 
2013-09-26 10:17:00 AM  
Too many drugs, seeing self-transforming machine elves?

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-09-26 12:11:11 PM  
ELF = Extremely Low Frequency

The Navy's submarine broadcasts also made me stay in bed this morning instead of getting ready for work.

Sinister, they are!
 
2013-09-26 12:13:09 PM  

Researcher: President Merkin Muffley: syrynxx: That's unbelievable.

OH REALLY?

You think the military would develop a technology to do EXACTLY THIS and not actually USE it?

Oh for pete's sake. The guy was mentally ill, the system failed him, he acted on his madness and tragedy ensued. It's sad, but he had a long, weird history of weirdness.

If he'd thought the Russians were monitoring him by satellite, the existence of Russia and satellites doesn't make that MORE credible. It just makes him the same kind of crazy in a different flavor.

/or if he had Morgellons, vapor trails, Truman show delusions, or a million other ways schizos go according to taste and timing.


More importantly, the original comment made by syrynxx was actually a joke.  A one-hit wonder band from the early 90s/late 80's called "EMF" whose hit song was "unbelieveable".  The earworm for the song basically goes "ooooooooohhhh.......you're unbelieveable"

/Thats the joke
 
2013-09-26 12:30:51 PM  
 
2013-09-26 03:23:29 PM  
Pretty shiatty mind-control if you're aware of it.
 
2013-09-26 09:50:12 PM  

Dolfin: still no video from sandy hook...
just after they revamped their entire security system.


Booyyyaaahhh..
 
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