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(The Detroit_News)   Hertz will rent Teslas at LAX and SFO, with increasing frequency   (detroitnews.com) divider line 45
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1301 clicks; posted to Business » on 25 Sep 2013 at 5:47 PM (1 year ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2013-09-25 05:55:53 PM  
Don't get so amped up, Subby.
 
2013-09-25 05:56:15 PM  
I wonder if they'll be black and gold.
 
2013-09-25 06:01:59 PM  
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Nice one subby
 
2013-09-25 06:10:58 PM  
Soon rental fleets will be almost all electric, they can get much better margins charging for recharging than they can for refueling, because the electricity costs them so much less than gas.  They could even lower their prices a bit and still increase profits 3-4x.
 
2013-09-25 06:12:50 PM  
Does Kenneth know about this?
 
2013-09-25 06:13:34 PM  
Just the current model?
 
2013-09-25 06:53:32 PM  

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: Soon rental fleets will be almost all electric, they can get much better margins charging for recharging than they can for refueling, because the electricity costs them so much less than gas.  They could even lower their prices a bit and still increase profits 3-4x.


Yeah, I'm trying to figure out how you would return an electric car "full" because it takes a certain amount of time to recharge it. Unless they put some superchargers near the return, most people don't have the time to wait for the car to charge.

At the same time, I'm kicking myself for not taking some cash out of savings and throwing a few grand at them at their IPO. I was mulling them over, but didn't go with my gut.
 
2013-09-25 07:01:43 PM  
I wish rental companies made it easier to rent specific cars. I mean, if you're thinking of buying something, and you could rent it for a few days to test drive it, why wouldn't you? Or if you just want to hop in something nice and tool around for a bit?

I'd like to rent a Vette, personally, but there doesn't seem to be a way to find the nearest one to me, only search by destination. Bah.
 
2013-09-25 07:04:27 PM  
FTA: The Tesla models expand on a lineup of higher-priced cars that Hertz has added to its fleet under its Dream Cars program, that includes Ferrari and Lamborghini cars.

In other words, it's not in your price range if you have to ask.
 
2013-09-25 07:05:22 PM  
ME: Yes, I reserved a Tesla please.
ME: Did you know they make 315+ ft/lbs of torque constantly? That's as much as an Aston Martin Vanquish!
ME: Yes I'd like the insurance.
 
2013-09-25 07:06:07 PM  
You can drive a Telsa for free by signing up for one of their road shows.

http://www.teslamotors.com/models/drive

I was given the base model (found out too late that P85 were available) and even that car is a lot of fun with all that torque. Range is a concern though; spirited driving I used 1kWh in 2.25 miles (i reset the trip odometer halfway through the test drive). That would only get me 187 miles, not 230.
 
2013-09-25 07:16:08 PM  

NightSteel: I wish rental companies made it easier to rent specific cars. I mean, if you're thinking of buying something, and you could rent it for a few days to test drive it, why wouldn't you? Or if you just want to hop in something nice and tool around for a bit?

I'd like to rent a Vette, personally, but there doesn't seem to be a way to find the nearest one to me, only search by destination. Bah.


You probably need to call and talk with a representative. Over the phone, I was able to reserve a corvette convertible and specify color even though they aren't listed online.  However, I also found out that you could not pickup a convertible vette at SFO and drop it off in LAX.  I wanted to drive down the PCH in a convertible, stopping over for a few days in Monterrey.
 
2013-09-25 07:20:25 PM  

The Ocho: NightSteel: I wish rental companies made it easier to rent specific cars. I mean, if you're thinking of buying something, and you could rent it for a few days to test drive it, why wouldn't you? Or if you just want to hop in something nice and tool around for a bit?

I'd like to rent a Vette, personally, but there doesn't seem to be a way to find the nearest one to me, only search by destination. Bah.

You probably need to call and talk with a representative. Over the phone, I was able to reserve a corvette convertible and specify color even though they aren't listed online.  However, I also found out that you could not pickup a convertible vette at SFO and drop it off in LAX.  I wanted to drive down the PCH in a convertible, stopping over for a few days in Monterrey.


I drove from north of Eureka to Monterrey in a convertible

/it was a very, very nice ride
 
2013-09-25 07:32:34 PM  
Ohm my god, what a great headline, subby!
 
2013-09-25 07:43:45 PM  
Giggity.

/Hertz Double Secret Platinum President's Mega Five Star member
 
2013-09-25 07:56:42 PM  
I see what you did there, subby.  I see it between 400 to 789 THz.
 
2013-09-25 08:00:06 PM  
Best car rental deal so far: Rented a Ford Escape for $33 a day for 6 days in Arizona from Budget.  Arrived at the location in Phoenix, and after some back and forth, the sales guy offered a BMW X3 for $50 a day.  Hells yeah.  That car was the therapy for having to deal with my parents for a week.  That and the free happy hour at the hotel.
 
2013-09-25 08:33:13 PM  

NightSteel: I wish rental companies made it easier to rent specific cars. I mean, if you're thinking of buying something, and you could rent it for a few days to test drive it, why wouldn't you? Or if you just want to hop in something nice and tool around for a bit?

I'd like to rent a Vette, personally, but there doesn't seem to be a way to find the nearest one to me, only search by destination. Bah.


http://www.hertzcarsales.com/  rent it, then buy it
 
2013-09-25 09:03:13 PM  

Gig103: That would only get me 187 miles, not 230


That's why they offer the two higher trims. You're not really meant to drive in a "spirited" manner in the base model, that's what the Performance trim is for. It also stiffens the chassis and adds some grip, I believe.

That said, it's still an electric car and while Elon Musk is many things, he's not a magician. If you really want a car to drive like a sports car without the price of a sports car plus that of an electric car... well... you're gonna have to still buy a traditional sports car. Even if Tesla has nailed the engineering the simple fact is that economies of scale have yet to be built for this particular type of vehicle.
 
2013-09-25 09:21:42 PM  
Been looking for a place to go on my 2nd week of vacation next summer...

Up through Napa and Marin, down to Half Moon Bay.  Might be fun.
 
2013-09-25 09:36:15 PM  

Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: Been looking for a place to go on my 2nd week of vacation next summer...

Up through Napa and Marin, down to Half Moon Bay.  Might be fun.


Make sure you head by Pescadero for the artichoke bread.
 
2013-09-25 09:54:03 PM  

NightSteel: I wish rental companies made it easier to rent specific cars. I mean, if you're thinking of buying something, and you could rent it for a few days to test drive it, why wouldn't you? Or if you just want to hop in something nice and tool around for a bit?

I'd like to rent a Vette, personally, but there doesn't seem to be a way to find the nearest one to me, only search by destination. Bah.


I was able to do exactly that years ago and it saved me from buying a Taurus. I liked it the first day or two, but after two weeks I swore I'd never drive one again!
 
2013-09-25 10:06:19 PM  
I was a lender to Tesla, so I get the $670 taxpayer discount on that $700/day rental
 
2013-09-25 10:34:22 PM  
Headline of the year contender
 
2013-09-25 10:43:13 PM  
Finding a place just to put gas in a normal rental is bad enough. I foresee a shiatload of people having to call tow trucks to get the toy cars they abandon on the side of the road after being unable to find an outdoor power outlet.
 
2013-09-25 11:05:59 PM  

HotWingAgenda: Finding a place just to put gas in a normal rental is bad enough. I foresee a shiatload of people having to call tow trucks to get the toy cars they abandon on the side of the road after being unable to find an outdoor power outlet.


I don't think that will be an issue, ignorance boy.
 
2013-09-25 11:31:46 PM  
The sign at the rental lot will say you gotta have a membership card to get inside.
 
2013-09-26 12:07:41 AM  

Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: HotWingAgenda: Finding a place just to put gas in a normal rental is bad enough. I foresee a shiatload of people having to call tow trucks to get the toy cars they abandon on the side of the road after being unable to find an outdoor power outlet.

I don't think that will be an issue, ignorance boy.


It warms me to know that the people who spew against electric cars will be driving one themselves within fifteen years, tops.
 
2013-09-26 12:39:44 AM  

poot_rootbeer: The sign at the rental lot will say you gotta have a membership card to get inside.


Signs, signs, everywhere are signs. Blocking out the scenery, wasting my time.
 
2013-09-26 12:46:55 AM  

skozlaw: That said, it's still an electric car and while Elon Musk is many things, he's not a magician.


I understand that, heck I don't hit the EPA estimate for fuel consumption in my current car either, it's just that until the Supercharger network is built up road trips are tough to do, and to me that's one of the perks of an electric car. I'm very pleased Tesla is succeeding, it should help the market overall.
 
2013-09-26 12:50:34 AM  

loonatic112358: http://www.hertzcarsales.com/  rent it, then buy it


I've owned 2 previous rental cars.  My only beef with them is that you need to budget for all the people who "drove it like a rental."  There are sometimes scratches around the side doors where people load and unload luggage, keymarks around the door even when it's keyless, and my last rental had a nice gash on the radio that was gonna bug me hard.  I just budgeted for those things and haven't had any really unexpected maintenance issues even after 60-70K miles with the latest one.  I took care of the radio gash with an acrylic sanding kit.

My first was a Pontiac, bought directly from Hertz, but I think its longevity issues were unrelated to its start as a rental.
 
2013-09-26 01:56:40 AM  

NightSteel: I wish rental companies made it easier to rent specific cars. I mean, if you're thinking of buying something, and you could rent it for a few days to test drive it, why wouldn't you? Or if you just want to hop in something nice and tool around for a bit?

I'd like to rent a Vette, personally, but there doesn't seem to be a way to find the nearest one to me, only search by destination. Bah.


It's real easy, as long as they have the car.  My friend did this by simply calling a rental place.  "Do you have an X?" "Yes" "On the lot?" "No, but it comes in tomorrow" "I would like to rent it the day after that for a week" "Okay".

/Bonus CSB: Wife and I rented a car to drive between cities to pick up another car.  We ordered the smallest (read, cheapest) thing on their website.  Got there, and were handed the keys to this luxury grandpa-cruiser.  My ass has never felt so good after a day of driving.
 
2013-09-26 02:27:30 AM  

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: It warms me to know that the people who spew against electric cars will be driving one themselves within fifteen years, tops.


Probably not.

In fifteen years the electric cars will be driving themselves.

/got mixed emotions about that
 
2013-09-26 02:59:18 AM  

watt?

 
2013-09-26 03:12:57 AM  

Doogled: Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: Been looking for a place to go on my 2nd week of vacation next summer...

Up through Napa and Marin, down to Half Moon Bay.  Might be fun.

Make sure you head by Pescadero for the artichoke bread.


Now THAT'S living...

And I hope the hoty comments are sarcasm. I'm getting a charge out of the reZvolting comments. They amp me up.

Fark puns!
 
2013-09-26 07:02:54 AM  

NightSteel: I wish rental companies made it easier to rent specific cars. I mean, if you're thinking of buying something, and you could rent it for a few days to test drive it, why wouldn't you? Or if you just want to hop in something nice and tool around for a bit?

I'd like to rent a Vette, personally, but there doesn't seem to be a way to find the nearest one to me, only search by destination. Bah.


Here ya go
 
2013-09-26 07:47:07 AM  
Came for the ignorant assholes dumping on electric cars, leaving satisfied.
 
2013-09-26 07:59:38 AM  

jso2897: Came for the ignorant assholes dumping on electric cars, leaving satisfied.


You might enjoy this. Watch a Tesla pass a Corvette on a racetrack. And a Cobra. And another Cobra.
 
2013-09-26 08:19:35 AM  
I've got nothing against electric cars, I think they are a very good idea. However I do have a problem with the pompous bustards that own them, and do not understand the environmental impacts of electric vehicles.
 
2013-09-26 09:21:32 AM  
Forget about the brownouts, lets draw more from the grid!!
 
2013-09-26 09:25:43 AM  
Aren't they afraid of meeting some market resistance?
 
2013-09-26 09:32:00 AM  

NightSteel: I wish rental companies made it easier to rent specific cars. I mean, if you're thinking of buying something, and you could rent it for a few days to test drive it, why wouldn't you? Or if you just want to hop in something nice and tool around for a bit?

I'd like to rent a Vette, personally, but there doesn't seem to be a way to find the nearest one to me, only search by destination. Bah.


My local Toyota dealer rents out their cars for the day.  Wanted to do that when I was looking at a Prius, but they were out for a few days.

/got it anyway

phalamir: NightSteel: I wish rental companies made it easier to rent specific cars. I mean, if you're thinking of buying something, and you could rent it for a few days to test drive it, why wouldn't you? Or if you just want to hop in something nice and tool around for a bit?

I'd like to rent a Vette, personally, but there doesn't seem to be a way to find the nearest one to me, only search by destination. Bah.

It's real easy, as long as they have the car.  My friend did this by simply calling a rental place.  "Do you have an X?" "Yes" "On the lot?" "No, but it comes in tomorrow" "I would like to rent it the day after that for a week" "Okay".

/Bonus CSB: Wife and I rented a car to drive between cities to pick up another car.  We ordered the smallest (read, cheapest) thing on their website.  Got there, and were handed the keys to this luxury grandpa-cruiser.  My ass has never felt so good after a day of driving.


I reserved a sh*tbox to drive from MA to Philly area.  Went to Enterprise, asked if they had an upgrade and it turned out there was a Volvo S(mumble, this was a few years ago) available that was never picked up and I could get it for like $10 more per day.

/never hurts to ask
 
2013-09-26 11:00:12 AM  

Pick: However I do have a problem with the pompous bustards that own them, and do not understand the environmental impacts of electric vehicles.


Bustards? Why would birds need cars?

Anyway, let's see. You have a car built of metal (in Tesla's case, mostly aluminum) and plastic, much like any other car on the road. Teslas use (appropriately) a classic AC induction motor, made of iron, copper, and steel; no rare earth metals needed. Lithium-ion batteries are recyclable (and lithium isn't all that rare).

Even when you factor in transmission losses, a fossil-fuel power plant is far more efficient than any internal-combustion car engine, and electricity can come from a variety of sources.

If you only compare the energy used directly by the car, well, let's see: an 85 kWh battery holds 306 MJ of energy. One US gallon of gasoline holds about 120 MJ (yeah, I know, I'm mixing English and SI units; good thing I'm not launching a Mars probe).

Anyway, the EPA-rated range of the 85 kWh battery is 265 miles. So going that far is the equivalent of getting 103.9 miles per gallon, in a seven-passenger luxury car. Tesla claims a 300-mile range, and NEDC testing gives a 310-mile range. Of course, how far you can go depends a lot on your driving style. If you aren't racing up to red lights, slamming on the brakes, and then stomping the accelerator when the light turns green, you could probably do much better than EPA ratings, and that's true for any car.

/doesn't drive an electric, but probably will eventually
 
2013-09-26 01:08:18 PM  

Mad_Radhu: At the same time, I'm kicking myself for not taking some cash out of savings and throwing a few grand at them at their IPO. I was mulling them over, but didn't go with my gut.


I didn't have enough for a big investment, so I bought a single LEAP option. I've made* 5x my initial investment.

* I know I haven't "made" it until the options expire. Hopefully it doesn't crash before January 2015...
 
2013-09-26 04:37:06 PM  
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