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(Fox News)   Obamacare is the Costco of medicine. And soon, your small town medical practice will become nothing more than an empty store front   (foxnews.com ) divider line
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2013-09-25 05:46:27 PM  
7 votes:
Blahblahblahblah, and furthermore...

The greatest nation in the world brought to its knees by something every other industrialized nation on the planet has no trouble with?

/Why do you assholes hate America?
2013-09-25 05:49:55 PM  
6 votes:
high quality, low prices. why is this not a good thing?
2013-09-25 05:43:30 PM  
6 votes:
I refuse to clink a link where the url is: "october-1-private-health-care-ends-socialism-begin"

And also, if health care were like Costco, then maybe more people could afford it.
2013-09-25 05:43:03 PM  
5 votes:

CRY MOAR/big>center>

That is one seriously whiny, lie filled editorial.

2013-09-25 05:38:17 PM  
5 votes:
Isn't Costco good?
2013-09-25 07:17:01 PM  
4 votes:
"Obamacare is the Costco of medicine. And soon, your small town medical practice gigantic for-profit insurance companies will no longer be using the American public as their cash cow and consequently will become nothing more than an empty store front"

FTFM and everyone else.

The closer we are getting to full implementation of the ACA, the greater the shiat fit the insurance companies are throwing and the more their congressional and media shills are ramping up the empty rhetoric and lies.
2013-09-25 07:06:04 PM  
4 votes:
Obamacare is the Costco of medicine. And soon, your small town medical practice will become nothing more than an empty store front.

Obamacare is the Costco of medicine. And soon, your small town medical practice will become nothing more than an incredibly busy, affordable, consumer-friendly business, where you can pick up thirty gallon jugs of pickles and HDTVs.
2013-09-25 06:37:48 PM  
4 votes:
Right, because until now healthcare has been run by mom&pop HMOs and not totally multi-billion dollar corporations dominated by rapacious scoundrels.

freakoutnation.com
2013-09-25 05:49:44 PM  
4 votes:
Costco is pretty awesome.
2013-09-26 01:35:05 AM  
3 votes:
Someone who has bought individual health insurance feel free to explain to me why these companies dying is a bad thing.

Because when I was starting a business in America I tried to buy individual insurance.  Here's what happened.

- To start, I am a 30 year old healthy non-smoker.  I rarely have to go to the doctor, don't have any diseases, etc.

- Applied for health insurance.  Filling out the 20 page form took hours and involved listing every time I'd been to a doctor or taken any drugs in the last 5 years, listing every family member who had any disease, etc.

- Called by health insurance person and interrogated over the phone about my application and general health for an hour.

- Surprise!  I was rejected. I had a concussion in a freak accident 1.5 years ago.  I lose.

- I call and try to dispute the rejection.  The phone support for people who have been rejected is designed all the way through to frustrate and stall the person until they give up and go away.  They have zero intention of fixing my issues.

- After hours on the phone, I am told by everyone I can speak to that the "underwriting department" that rejected me is off limits and there's no way to talk to them or appeal.  I am told my best bet is to get a doctors' note supporting my case as a healthy person.

- Went to doctor, got note.  Faxed the note to the number I was given.

- They didn't get the note - try this other number?  Rinse, repeat.

- After three faxes to three different numbers, they acknowledge that I sent them a doctor's note.

- Wait two weeks for the note to get to the underwriting department.

- Nope, still rejected.

- Can't get insurance from any other provider because I now have to check a box that says I was rejected for health insurance in the past year.  I might as well be a chain smoking heroin addict with terminal cancer at this point.


So that was fun.  Resolving my health insurance situation took an incredible amount of my time and energy when I should have been focusing on my business (spoiler - I found someone who would help us start a 2 person group plan even though took a bit of bending the rules.  Group plans can't reject you.)

Anyway, I hope these companies die.  All of them.
2013-09-25 08:20:49 PM  
3 votes:

firefly212: That's an interesting theory, but having talked to my old neurologist (I do his contract proofreading), the payment rates through the new agreement will be about 10% less that what he gets through the other commercial insurers he deals with. We (both he and I) expect he'll have some new patients because of the ACA, but he's already got about a 9 month wait for new patients, so I figure many of them will probably just end up at a neurologist who has a lower wait time.


I'm in the health care field. I know one thing, this means more people will have coverage. Wait times will increase, but they are already long. NP's are doing more work, and the entire industry is ready for new people.

We'd rather give people insulin and needles than pay for a foot amputation, or the like.

We're bending the cost curve and these idiots are all going to eat crow when they see the reduction in cost of health care as a percentage of GDP.

Will primary care docs get swamped? Yes. That means they will have to hire more people to manage their practice, grow, and they will actually earn more money even if their reimbursements are reduced because they will have more patients.

They will just have to work more hours. Or, more likely, you'll see a lot less single practice doctors and a lot more collective units of primary care doctors pooling resources into larger practices. It's going to be efficiency and consolidation that saves us money.
2013-09-25 07:32:35 PM  
3 votes:
I love how submitter thought he could backhand Costco and Obama and winds up with a pack of people white-knighting both.

If Walmart paid and took care of its people more, maybe we wouldn't have needed a farking federal mandate to do it for them, you whiny asshole FOX news farkos.
2013-09-25 07:23:26 PM  
3 votes:
Costco rules, I love their snack bar too. Everything they sell is of really good quality too. So I am trying to figure out how his analogy is a bad thing.

When you think about it though, the GOP of wanting to do everything at the local level is sort of like buying everything at a convenience store where you are paying a premium. This is not very fiscally sound when it comes to a lot of things. So I guess if you support buying as little as possible for the most money possible is the only way I can see it as a bad thing. Of course that makes absolutely no sense, so that is probably what he meant.
2013-09-25 06:42:09 PM  
3 votes:

Aristocles: So you're telling me I can't just get one prostate exam, but I have to get a palate of two hundred all at once?

Thanks BOB!


Leave your Battery Operated Boyfriend out of this.
2013-09-25 06:39:54 PM  
3 votes:
I bet he really wanted to use Walmart, but they're a conservative company,  He then switched to Costco because the CEO spoke at the dem convention (i think). He didn't realized Costco is pretty sweet.

dnrtfa
2013-09-25 06:10:48 PM  
3 votes:

Kittypie070: OK, Costco is bad how exactly?


Well, see, if Obamacare is Costco, then the current system is better because it's like a fancy restaurant that only decent people can afford (and who prepares their own meals anyway?!). You poors are now going to be able to eat actual groceries instead of fishing through the dumpster. Why, you might even grow accustomed to it!
2013-09-25 05:53:53 PM  
3 votes:

DamnYankees: Isn't Costco good?


They pay their employees far too much. Never give the serfs hope.
2013-09-25 05:45:04 PM  
3 votes:
Desperation is an ugly ugly thing, subby. You lost, get over it.
2013-09-26 03:32:43 AM  
2 votes:

o5iiawah: The only world-class hospitals in Cuba the United States are the ones that the connected class get to access. The modern, sleek, clean Cuban American hospitals you see are a Potempkin village for the rich, and don't take Medicaid.


Please tell me how my FTFY is any less true than what you wrote.

o5iiawah: I'll believe that Cuba is a world-class health system when drug companies relocate their HQs there and all the best and highest-paid athletes in the world are flown there to get bone, joint and muscle remedies


Interesting definition of "world class" you have there. Most professional athletes are going to be treated by physicians based in whatever country the team they play for is based in. If you consider World Cup soccer to have the best and highest-paid athletes in the world, then rest assured the Cuban national team is treated in Cuba. (check out their standings in the past few World Cups compared to the US). While you're at it, check out how the Cubans did in the past few World Baseball Classics against our highly paid American boys. They get treatment in Cuba.

Drug companies aren't located there because it is a communist government that is not big on private, for-profit ownership of companies that make their living from providing things like medicine that are necessary for people to live. This is one of the few advantages to communism - removal of the immoral profit motive for jacking up prices on medication, so the individual can either pay out his or her life savings for medication that costs literally pennies to manufacture, or die.

In other words, you have a very flawed definition of "world class". I would take a capitalist definition and say a health care system is "world class" if people who can afford to go elsewhere choose not to. Cuba definitely fits this definition.
2013-09-25 09:27:52 PM  
2 votes:
Obamacare is the Costco of medicine.

You mean a well-run successful American company that is well known for taking care of its employees? Why do you hate America? Oh that's right, the Right is more of a WalMart supporter. Keep the little people on the bottom, pay them shiat, and drive all of the little companies out of business. Yeah, it's WalMart that creates all of the "empty store fronts", not Costco, you dumbass.
2013-09-25 09:19:53 PM  
2 votes:
I mean, I'm definitely willing to admit that insurance companies who deny pre-existing conditions are going to get farked over, if that's what you are looking for.
2013-09-25 07:41:35 PM  
2 votes:

DamnYankees: Isn't Costco good?


Why do I have the feeling that subby would never equate Wal-Mart of being the robber barons, like they do with Costco?
2013-09-25 07:40:14 PM  
2 votes:
Read the headline. My first thought was "good". So was my second.
2013-09-25 07:17:41 PM  
2 votes:
When I lost my job earlier this year, a number of HR professionals I talked to told me that the whole Obamacare situation was going to save my ass after Cobra ran out. I looked at the rates and that they can't refuse insurance and I just don't see a huge downside to this. If you are poor, the rates are considerably reduced. In many cases, like with Kaiser Permanente, a lot of the garden variety diagnostics are free.

Fortunately, I found a jerb pretty quickly, but it's nice to know that people can get insurance. The younger people are complaining about subsidizing the much villified "Boomers" ( which doesn't include people who are over 75, IIRC, so STFU), but they don't notice that they're the ones who need obstetricians and people to scrape them up off the tarmac after motorcycle accidents. (Not to mention the diabeetus.)
2013-09-25 07:08:52 PM  
2 votes:
OMG, Medical care will become more efficient so it can serve more people at cheaper costs!!

The horror!!!
2013-09-25 06:55:09 PM  
2 votes:
Unfortunately the Kaiser-ization of medicine is inevitable, Obamacare or not. The idea that half the nation gets luxury health care and the other half gets nothing was never a sustainable model. There had to be a middle ground, and here we are.
2013-09-25 06:48:01 PM  
2 votes:

Aristocles: So you're telling me I can't just get one prostate exam, but I have to get a palate of two hundred all at once?

Thanks BOB!


Stop trying to make BOB happen.
2013-09-25 06:44:50 PM  
2 votes:

Aristocles: So you're telling me I can't just get one prostate exam, but I have to get a palate of two hundred all at once?

Thanks BOB!


Palate? Really?

Also, who's Bob?
2013-09-25 06:31:51 PM  
2 votes:

johnnieconnie: I refuse to clink a Fox News link where the url is: "october-1-private-health-care-ends-socialism-begin"

And also, if health care were like Costco, then maybe more people could afford it.


FTFM
2013-09-25 06:00:23 PM  
2 votes:
Costco = boxes and boxes of decent booze, cheap!

Also, Costco has the lowest employee turnover rate in retail, partially because of high wages, and 90% of its workers qualify for, ahem, EMPLOYEE-SPONSORED HEALTH INSURANCE...when the going rate in retail is 60%. So we should be so lucky.
2013-09-26 06:40:14 AM  
1 vote:

DamnYankees: Isn't Costco good?


potterydove: Should have said walmart.


No. Fox and conservatives love Walmart because they don't pay their workers, they wouldn't dare talk shiat on them.
2013-09-26 03:34:35 AM  
1 vote:

netcentric: I don't know if it will be like Costco, but it appears it will cost about $20 more a month for some folks to get the same policy they could have gotten last year.


News Flash: Health insurance prices go up every year.

Under the old system some years ago, my dad's company's policy went up 30 PERCENT from one year to the next.  Not the fault of Obamacare because it hadn't been implemented yet.  Just the fault of the insurance company wanting more money.  And 30% of those premiums was a whole HELL of a lot more than twenty measly bucks.
2013-09-26 01:21:18 AM  
1 vote:

Quasar: Insurance companies are getting millions of new healthy people paying them money every year. I'm pretty sure they're thrilled about this.


I think it's going to be largely a wash.  Insurance companies are getting more healthy people, but they're also forced to take sick people even with pre-existing conditions, and they lose some of their tools that they used to use to keep their profits up (lifetime caps, etc.)

Plus the fact that plans must offer comprehensive services and spend more than a certain percentage of their revenue on paying medical expenses will get rid of a lot of the predatory too-good-to-be-true plans that offered low rates by providing terrible levels of coverage.
2013-09-26 12:15:55 AM  
1 vote:

o5iiawah: MaudlinMutantMollusk: The greatest nation in the world brought to its knees by something every other industrialized nation on the planet has no trouble with? 80% of Europe cant afford


imgs.xkcd.com
2013-09-25 11:59:24 PM  
1 vote:

flondrix: hubiestubert: Yes, there will be a transition period, where a lot of folks may have to transition from making calls to get payments from insurers, and instead focus on actual care, but we'll muddle through. Maybe even some of those fine call center folks could be retrained, because I'm sure that the insurance folks who lost their cushy jobs will have a bit more free time to call someone with a sessy voice, and maybe a little one on one time with someone who is being paid to pretend to f*ck you might be more fun than paying them to f*ck someone over by proxy...

Currently, the existing insurance companies employ a lot of people to find ways to weasel out of as many claims as possible, legitimate or otherwise.  Since the ACA enables people to buy insurance with these very same companies...why wouldn't business continue as usual?


Because this is a temporary step, I think. The hurdle has been to reform health care, and the eventual logical step is to go single payer. Which, to be honest, would have been a much harder sell at the get go, and this is a baby step to getting folks used to the idea, beyond Medicare and Medicaid's services.

It won't happen right away. Perhaps not even in my lifetime, but I do think it will happen, and when it does, we'll wonder why in the Hells it took so long to join the rest of the civilized world in this. Actually, we won't wonder, because we know that it was because a lot of folks made mad bank betting on folks to NOT be sick, or to simply NOT be paid out because of illness or injury. It is a racket, and this is still paying middlemen, but at some point, every businessman realizes that it's better to go directly to the source, as opposed to using middlemen if you want to insure quality and delivery. Eventually, by touting their keen business sense, some member of the GOP is going to spark that idea, and it will THEN take the party by storm. It might be the saving of her, but I don't think it's going to happen soonish...
2013-09-25 11:26:50 PM  
1 vote:

netcentric: I don't know if it will be like Costco, but it appears it will cost about $20 more a month for some folks to get the same policy they could have gotten last year.


Given that purchasing a policy as an individual person instead of through an employer is next to impossible for many-to-most people under the old system, I suspect that the number of people who could have obtained such a policy for $20 less is very small.  Myself, I had to buy insurance through my state's "uninsurables" program.  Fortunately, my state had one.
2013-09-25 11:22:19 PM  
1 vote:
Aristocles: So you're telling me I can't just get one prostate exam, but I have to get a palate of two hundred all at once?

Thanks BOB!


lh4.googleusercontent.com

Seriously. Pushing this moniker does what exactly?

lh3.googleusercontent.com

Truly, I feel for you at this point.

lh3.googleusercontent.com

As for the rest of the thread...I call upon a plethora of my patented Firefly Motivators, because, Captain Mal pretty much summed up the problem that we see with the HCR debate...

lh4.googleusercontent.com

This is the first step, a baby step even, to folks realizing that we could actually eliminate the health insurance industry entirely, and join the rest of the civilized world, and disaster would only befall a few folks who are investing in companies that are REALLY committed to you never getting paid out. Yes, it is a terrifying world that might mean that these companies might be forced to rely on selling malpractice insurance instead of family plans, and looking to dump folks regularly from the rolls before they get ill.

Yes. It will mean that some folks are going to take a bath as their stocks are reduced to nil, but if they are sufficiently diversified, they'll make it through all right. Yes, there will be a transition period, where a lot of folks may have to transition from making calls to get payments from insurers, and instead focus on actual care, but we'll muddle through. Maybe even some of those fine call center folks could be retrained, because I'm sure that the insurance folks who lost their cushy jobs will have a bit more free time to call someone with a sessy voice, and maybe a little one on one time with someone who is being paid to pretend to f*ck you might be more fun than paying them to f*ck someone over by proxy...
2013-09-25 11:18:09 PM  
1 vote:

Somacandra: freak7: On a related note, I received a letter from the VA today explaining that since I'm enrolled, I don't have to do anything to meet the requirements for health insurance under Obamacare.

Well I would certainly hope so. Given that the VA is a government agency, you would want them to be pretty seamlessly integrated.


Many of the staunchest critics of "socialized medicine" get their medical care from the VA.
2013-09-25 10:41:32 PM  
1 vote:
Go to the south. They havent had mom and pops businesses since at least the mid 90's.
2013-09-25 10:24:56 PM  
1 vote:

cameroncrazy1984: snocone: cameroncrazy1984: Quasar: Insurance companies are getting millions of new healthy people paying them money every year. I'm pretty sure they're thrilled about this.

Except for the billions in premium refunds they're probably going to have to give out. They've already given out a few million.

Right.
Ha Ha , oh, I feel vaporish.

You should see a doctor.


Apparently he is one.

I have him "favorited" as legitimately disturbed person
2013-09-25 10:09:39 PM  
1 vote:

snocone: cameroncrazy1984: Quasar: Insurance companies are getting millions of new healthy people paying them money every year. I'm pretty sure they're thrilled about this.

Except for the billions in premium refunds they're probably going to have to give out. They've already given out a few million.

Right.
Ha Ha , oh, I feel vaporish.


You should see a doctor.
2013-09-25 09:42:32 PM  
1 vote:
October 1: Private health care ends, socialism begins

i4.ytimg.com
2013-09-25 09:41:19 PM  
1 vote:
The Kirkland brand items are as good as the name brands.

Costco is pretty awesome actually
2013-09-25 09:22:40 PM  
1 vote:

firefly212: cameroncrazy1984: freak7: Can anybody on Team Obama admit that some people are going to get farked over by Obamacare?

Who?

Shareholders and executives of insurance companies who have to deal with the new reality that their company now exists to insure people, instead of to collect premiums, then give them away to said shareholders and execs while denying even routine claims for their customers.


Oh, then yeah I'm willing to admit those people will get farked over.
2013-09-25 09:20:52 PM  
1 vote:

cameroncrazy1984: freak7: Can anybody on Team Obama admit that some people are going to get farked over by Obamacare?

Who?


Shareholders and executives of insurance companies who have to deal with the new reality that their company now exists to insure people, instead of to collect premiums, then give them away to said shareholders and execs while denying even routine claims for their customers.
2013-09-25 09:20:44 PM  
1 vote:

Aristocles: I'm going to get screwed


You and your fake wife?
2013-09-25 09:19:10 PM  
1 vote:

freak7: Can anybody on Team Obama admit that some people are going to get farked over by Obamacare?


Who?
2013-09-25 09:02:39 PM  
1 vote:

netcentric: I don't know if it will be like Costco, but it appears it will cost about $20 more a month for some folks to get the same policy they could have gotten last year.


This is the "I stubbed my toe" of trolls.

Come on, MAN!  Bring some dramatics to the game!  Even something tired like DEATH PANELS is better.
2013-09-25 08:54:21 PM  
1 vote:

snocone: Oh really?
You Partisan hacks think your insurance companies go to Costco or Walmart.
Ha Ha.

What irrelevant idiots.
Insurance Industry wrote your precious, how you say "Obamacare".
These chumps are just the delivery boys.


/that there is a non racist "boy", yup


Are you having a stroke? Do you need someone to call 911 for you?
2013-09-25 08:44:29 PM  
1 vote:

snocone: Oh really?
You Partisan hacks think your insurance companies go to Costco or Walmart.
Ha Ha.

What irrelevant idiots.
Insurance Industry wrote your precious, how you say "Obamacare".
These chumps are just the delivery boys.


/that there is a non racist "boy", yup


Meth is bad kids.
2013-09-25 08:35:56 PM  
1 vote:

snocone: Oh really?
You Partisan hacks think your insurance companies go to Costco or Walmart.
Ha Ha.

What irrelevant idiots.
Insurance Industry wrote your precious, how you say "Obamacare".
These chumps are just the delivery boys.


/that there is a non racist "boy", yup


What the hell is this.
2013-09-25 08:02:53 PM  
1 vote:
BC/BS is going to be part of my health exchange here in CO, which means I'll be able to go back to my old neurologist! Hooray!

/fark the haters.
2013-09-25 07:47:41 PM  
1 vote:
If Fox is going to spend so much of its bandwidth trying to flood the intertubes with anti-Obamacare drivel, I can't help but be for it.
2013-09-25 07:44:59 PM  
1 vote:
He sounds concerned.
2013-09-25 07:32:14 PM  
1 vote:

Cletus C.: Health care is going to be like a three-gallon jug of mayonnaise? Interesting.


Stop being a lying liar who lies.

Costco doesn't sell three-gallon jugs of mayonnaise. They're five-gallon.
2013-09-25 07:30:56 PM  
1 vote:
LINK

Oklahoma premiums 20-30% lower than national average.

If our stupid red state can get lower premiums while doing everything in the world to make Obamacare work, than the article writer and everyone that agree with him are stupid.
2013-09-25 07:15:03 PM  
1 vote:
Yes, Obama is responsible for the corporate takeover of medicine. Who knew?
2013-09-25 07:13:13 PM  
1 vote:
2013-09-25 07:10:54 PM  
1 vote:

MrEricSir: Unfortunately the Kaiser-ization of medicine is inevitable


My wife has Kaiser. She got perfectly acceptable and effective treatment for her thyroid cancer a year ago. She's cancer-free now. Your outrage is noted.
2013-09-25 07:08:29 PM  
1 vote:

flondrix: rikdanger: Costco = boxes and boxes of decent booze, cheap!

Also, Costco has the lowest employee turnover rate in retail, partially because of high wages, and 90% of its workers qualify for, ahem, EMPLOYEE-SPONSORED HEALTH INSURANCE...when the going rate in retail is 60%. So we should be so lucky.

You can find cool stuff in Costco that you didn't know existed, or great deals you weren't looking for...but afterwards I always have to go to a "normal" store to finish buying the stuff on my shopping list.  And the stuff you did find last week may not be there this week.

Also, no one there is able to tell you whether the store has a particular item or where it might be found. I understand that is not how their business model works, but it is very inconvenient for someone who needs to buy something specific rather than cool stuff in general.  All in all, a very bad metaphor for heath care.


Eh.  Depends.  At the location I work at (ten years employed at Costco, Shop Steward since we're a grandfathered store (originally Price Club, which was teamsters, so we're still union)) we readily look items up in the computer system, both for our location and other locations (yup, can do that) to see if a given item's in stock.  It could just be shiatty ass employees.

Also, since we're a union shop, we have a LOT of people who've got double digit years in the company, and more than a few with 25 years with the company.  It CAN be a biatch to find an item, because of the Treasure Hunt Floor Plan-- which employees dislike just as much as customers do..
2013-09-25 07:03:38 PM  
1 vote:

MaudlinMutantMollusk: The greatest nation in the world brought to its knees by something every other industrialized nation on the planet has no trouble with?


This is what I don't understand about this whole debate.

Sure.  I get not being happy about the affordable care act.  I can see how some people might feel it is too intrusive or too expensive, or have any number of problems with it.

But it is not going to destroy the Republic.  There is this talk of apocalypse coming from the Right.  Like the whole American experiment is about to end; that this is worth pouring all political energy into, it is worth shutting down the government.  It's not!  Mistake it may or may not be, but this country has endured far worse than some changes to insurance regulations!

The whole idea that the ACA is going to kill everything is so stupid!  And it seems like Republicans aren't being asked to defend that assertion.
2013-09-25 06:59:25 PM  
1 vote:

mediablitz: Kittypie070: OK, Costco is bad how exactly?

I'm going to take a stab at this: Costco limits your choices. Sure, you are getting stuff cheap, but you only can get that ONE thing. What if you need that OTHER thing? Sorry. You are stuck because...

That's the best I can figure.


Costco rotates stock, so you can get cheap healthcare, but this week you'll get bargain European healthcare, but next week it's cheapo African healthcare, and then after that you can get the Chinese version.

/other than that, no clue. And this poor person got her first pair of eyeglasses in 5 years because of Costco, so, this whole discussion is really funny.
2013-09-25 06:57:32 PM  
1 vote:

Aristocles: So you're telling me I can't just get one prostate exam, but I have to get a palate of two hundred all at once?

Thanks BOB!


i would think you would enjoy that.
2013-09-25 06:50:32 PM  
1 vote:

cameroncrazy1984: o5iiawah: MaudlinMutantMollusk: The greatest nation in the world brought to its knees by something every other industrialized nation on the planet has no trouble with? 80% of Europe cant afford

You're kidding, right?


I felt it was too lame to even respond to, myself
2013-09-25 06:49:57 PM  
1 vote:

dracos31: Aristocles: So you're telling me I can't just get one prostate exam, but I have to get a palate of two hundred all at once?

Thanks BOB!

Stop trying to make BOB happen.


As he makes BOB happen by not using the "ignore" function.
2013-09-25 06:48:05 PM  
1 vote:
The Costco of medicine..

Oh you mean where people make a living wage with reasonable chance for advancement and growth and are supported by an affordable benefits package that covers their health needs?

Like that?
2013-09-25 06:46:22 PM  
1 vote:
fta: "To me, health care has three major components: medical professionals, profit, patients revenue and cost. money for my friends in Congress"
2013-09-25 06:45:47 PM  
1 vote:

rikdanger: Costco = boxes and boxes of decent booze, cheap!

Also, Costco has the lowest employee turnover rate in retail, partially because of high wages, and 90% of its workers qualify for, ahem, EMPLOYEE-SPONSORED HEALTH INSURANCE...when the going rate in retail is 60%. So we should be so lucky.


You can find cool stuff in Costco that you didn't know existed, or great deals you weren't looking for...but afterwards I always have to go to a "normal" store to finish buying the stuff on my shopping list.  And the stuff you did find last week may not be there this week.

Also, no one there is able to tell you whether the store has a particular item or where it might be found.  I understand that is not how their business model works, but it is very inconvenient for someone who needs to buy something specific rather than cool stuff in general.  All in all, a very bad metaphor for heath care.
2013-09-25 06:45:25 PM  
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o5iiawah: MaudlinMutantMollusk: The greatest nation in the world brought to its knees by something every other industrialized nation on the planet has no trouble with? 80% of Europe cant afford


You're kidding, right?
2013-09-25 05:42:51 PM  
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Welcome to Obamacare, I love you.

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