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(Detroit Free Press)   Homicide charges against Detroit brothers, who spent 25 years in prison, to be dismissed. More good news: they didn't miss the Lions winning the Super Bowl or the Tigers winning the World Series   (freep.com) divider line 37
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2013-09-25 04:18:52 PM  
I dont understand this.
witness appears after 25 years??
wtf
 
2013-09-25 04:39:54 PM  
Lucky for them they don't live in Texas.

/Texan
 
2013-09-25 04:43:00 PM  
FTFA: "It's a testament to the human character that they hold no bitterness."

I don't know what that is, but it's not that!
 
2013-09-25 04:43:03 PM  
They'll be in shock after learning how good the Red Wings have been.
 
2013-09-25 04:44:28 PM  
Subby, you're a cruel, wee bastard. You belong in prison for that kind of cruelty. With closed-caption TV running 24 hour replays of Arizona Cardinals football games. And toothpicks in your eyes to keep them open.
 
2013-09-25 04:46:58 PM  
I hope they can get the band back together.
 
2013-09-25 04:47:32 PM  
If I was innocent, I would be pissed off.  These guys look happy!
 
2013-09-25 04:52:31 PM  
Maybe they are basketball fans?

/or hockey fans?
 
2013-09-25 04:56:12 PM  
I wonder how they ever got a conviction in the first place if all it took was one witness to say, "Wait.  I remember that night.  There was black people there!!"
 
2013-09-25 04:57:01 PM  
...and when they got home and saw the flaming craters in the road, they remarked that the neighborhood "hasn't changed at all."
 
2013-09-25 04:57:52 PM  
Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy announced today that she wouldn't seek a second trial for the brothers, but said in a news release that her office still believes the evidence shows they're guilty.

Oh, Fark YOU.
 
2013-09-25 05:04:26 PM  

Kyosuke: Lucky for them they don't live in Texas.

/Texan


Yeah they are. Stuff like this is why I'm not a fan of the death penalty. Our justice system makes too many mistakes.
 
2013-09-25 05:05:44 PM  
" The witnesses identified the gunmen who killed Karey as black. The Highers brothers are white. "

So that's it? 25 years later, a witness comes forward and says, "A black guy did it." And whatever evidence the prosecution was able to present during the original trial is dropped? What am I missing here? Or will the, "I saw a black guy do it." defense be admissible in murder trials from here on out?

The witness didn't even see the "black guy" do it. He just saw some black people with guns.

"I can remember it as if it was yesterday. It was almost up to my head," Hielscher told the Free Press last year. The gunman said, "Get the f--- out of here," he recalled.
Hielscher said he and his friend ran around the corner of the house toward the car where their other friends waited.
"I heard a gun go off," he said. "Once I got in that car, we got the hell out of there."


I mean, I'm all for new evidence and I'm for much less strict sentencing for crimes but...I don't know
 
2013-09-25 05:06:12 PM  

EdNortonsTwin: If I was innocent, I would be pissed off.  These guys look happy!


Yeah but after that amount of time I recon you have just given up on truth & justice and just probably even dreams of freedom.  So its understandable why you just want to get out and avoid all justice systems for the rest of your life.  They would be pretty broken really.
 
2013-09-25 05:14:21 PM  

TheShavingofOccam123: Subby, you're a cruel, wee bastard. You belong in prison for that kind of cruelty. With closed-caption TV running 24 hour replays of Arizona Cardinals football games. And toothpicks in your eyes to keep them open.


I am prety sure that would fall under the heading of cruel and unusual punishment,
 
2013-09-25 05:22:19 PM  
Send them to Detroit!

//go nuttin
 
2013-09-25 05:26:44 PM  
www.moviemusic.com

You're now singing that Bob Dylan song...
 
2013-09-25 05:27:47 PM  

grimlock1972: TheShavingofOccam123: Subby, you're a cruel, wee bastard. You belong in prison for that kind of cruelty. With closed-caption TV running 24 hour replays of Arizona Cardinals football games. And toothpicks in your eyes to keep them open.

I am prety sure that would fall under the heading of cruel and unusual punishment,


www.pbs.org

I don't know.  Looks kinda relaxing....
 
2013-09-25 05:38:22 PM  
Duke_Leto_atredes:

Send them to Detroit!

//go nuttin

And to that I say, [insert random Robocop quote]

www.blastr.com
 
2013-09-25 05:57:00 PM  

SirEattonHogg: Duke_Leto_atredes:

Send them to Detroit!

//go nuttin

And to that I say, [insert random Robocop quote]

[www.blastr.com image 550x370]


Your move, creep!
 
2013-09-25 06:06:02 PM  
More good news: they didn't miss the Lions winning the Super Bowl or the Tigers winning the World Series

They missed all the Pistons championships, though.
 
2013-09-25 06:21:00 PM  
1. WTF
2. Oh subby, you magnificent bastard.
 
2013-09-25 06:31:12 PM  

Langdon_777: EdNortonsTwin: If I was innocent, I would be pissed off.  These guys look happy!

Yeah but after that amount of time I recon you have just given up on truth & justice and just probably even dreams of freedom.  So its understandable why you just want to get out and avoid all justice systems for the rest of your life.  They would be pretty broken really.


If you are bitter you'll dwell on your lost years for the rest of your life. They only way is to look forward not back and enjoy what you have now.
 
2013-09-25 06:32:09 PM  
Detroit just won the World Series in *looks up Detroit World Series*

Damn I'm old.
 
2013-09-25 07:16:24 PM  
They'll probably be able to sue the state and receive millions in compensation...but at this point the question has to be asked, "How much money is worth losing over 25% of your entire life expectancy?"

I love money....*really* love money.  But I don't think I could come up with a number big enough to lose 25 years in a prison.  These kinda stories are horrifying to me.
 
2013-09-25 08:31:17 PM  
Holy shiat... I cringe every time I hear about one of these cases...  The justice system owes these guys millions because it cannot give back the one thing that is most precious to human life, time.
 
2013-09-25 08:49:51 PM  

Sail The Wide Accountancy: " The witnesses identified the gunmen who killed Karey as black. The Highers brothers are white. "

So that's it? 25 years later, a witness comes forward and says, "A black guy did it." And whatever evidence the prosecution was able to present during the original trial is dropped? What am I missing here? Or will the, "I saw a black guy do it." defense be admissible in murder trials from here on out?

The witness didn't even see the "black guy" do it. He just saw some black people with guns.

"I can remember it as if it was yesterday. It was almost up to my head," Hielscher told the Free Press last year. The gunman said, "Get the f--- out of here," he recalled.
Hielscher said he and his friend ran around the corner of the house toward the car where their other friends waited.
"I heard a gun go off," he said. "Once I got in that car, we got the hell out of there."

I mean, I'm all for new evidence and I'm for much less strict sentencing for crimes but...I don't know


Sure,  the prosecution could put on a new trial. The problem is 25 years have passed and all the witnesses (assuming they are available for a trial) memories are probably fuzzy and difficult to believe.  Add in another fuzzy statement saying a black person did it and there is reasonable doubt built into any new trial.  Given 25 years is a long sentence for a single murder in many locations, they have already served a sentence that would be a penalty for the crime.  Why waste the time and effort of a new trial to put people who have already served 25 years for a crime back on trial when they may be released on parole anyway next week?

Assuming they are innocent, they are facing a horrible future.  Twenty five years without working or developing any skills and lost opportunities for a family, children, and developing friends and hobbies.  They are being let out into a depressed community and have limited job prospects and facing a long life working as they have no retirement.  Sure, being free from state custody is wonderful, but they are being thrown into a world that is vastly different and lack any resources to build a life.
 
2013-09-25 09:24:15 PM  
and the first thing that happens, the cops will tail them the rest of their lives waiting to pin another crime on them...
 
2013-09-25 09:30:05 PM  

MechaPyx: Kyosuke: Lucky for them they don't live in Texas.

/Texan

Yeah they are. Stuff like this is why I'm not a fan of the death penalty. Our justice system makes too many mistakes.


Our government screw something up? Never.
 
2013-09-25 10:15:33 PM  

EdNortonsTwin: If I was innocent, I would be pissed off.  These guys look happy!


The article says they've been out a year, waiting to hear the final ruling in their case.   So the bitter feelings were last year, and what you see now is the reaction to the ruling.

Prosecutors always stand by their cases, innocent or not.  What are they going to say "Wow, another innocent person wrongly convicted.  Don't ask me how many that makes, I lost count years ago"?
 
2013-09-25 10:33:02 PM  

R.A.Danny: Detroit just won the World Series in *looks up Detroit World Series*

Damn I'm old.


I was going to ridicule subby: ha ha ha subby, you forgot about when Kirk Gibson...  oh shiat, was it really that long ago?
 
2013-09-25 10:58:15 PM  
If Hielscher is telling the truth and he didn't come forward back then to keep innocent men out of prison then he's a dick.

If Hielscher is lying now just to get these guys out of prison he's equally a dick.

Or maybe Hielscher did the killing and that's why he didn't come forward back then and only came forward today because he confessed the crime to Zieleniewski.
 
2013-09-25 11:28:40 PM  

rwfan: R.A.Danny: Detroit just won the World Series in *looks up Detroit World Series*

Damn I'm old.

I was going to ridicule subby: ha ha ha subby, you forgot about when Kirk Gibson...  oh shiat, was it really that long ago?


If you want to reminisce you can just go down to the corner of Michigan and Trumbull and look fondly on the... dirt lot.
 
2013-09-25 11:49:45 PM  

Daedalus27: Assuming they are innocent, they are facing a horrible future.  Twenty five years without working or developing any skills and lost opportunities for a family, children, and developing friends and hobbies.  They are being let out into a depressed community and have limited job prospects and facing a long life working as they have no retirement.  Sure, being free from state custody is wonderful, but they are being thrown into a world that is vastly different and lack any resources to build a life.


They'll feel like the rest Detroit, only now they don't have to ask permission to pee.
 
2013-09-26 06:11:00 AM  
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Daedalus27: Sure, the prosecution could put on a new trial. The problem is 25 years have passed and all the witnesses (assuming they are available for a trial) memories are probably fuzzy and difficult to believe. Add in another fuzzy statement saying a black person did it and there is reasonable doubt built into any new trial. Given 25 years is a long sentence for a single murder in many locations, they have already served a sentence that would be a penalty for the crime. Why waste the time and effort of a new trial to put people who have already served 25 years for a crime back on trial when they may be released on parole anyway next week?


From another article:

Former Detroit Judge Terrance Boyle, in a bench trial, originally found the brothers guilty, Talon said based heavily on one eyewitness's statements.

There was "no other physical, tangible evidence to corroborate the identification and those of us in the criminal justice field,... know that eyewitness identification can be fallible," Talon said. Even Boyle "made it clear in his ruling that it concerned him."


That judge was a dick. I guess he figured someone was dead so someone had to be punished, even if he had a real bad feeling about it being these two.
 
2013-09-26 07:41:58 AM  
... and bears.

/oh my!
 
2013-09-26 10:06:19 AM  
Well then they're getting out just in time...
 
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