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(WISN Milwaukee)   Yet another bridge in the upper midwest reacts predictably to the onslaught of winter road salt   (wisn.com) divider line 97
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2013-09-25 05:45:07 PM

kpaxoid: This just in: Americans pay too little in taxes.



newamerica.net

No, the Oligarchs have just become much more adept at siphoning off the wealth of the nation.
 
2013-09-25 05:46:56 PM
FTFA: About 40,000 vehicles use the bridge every day.

Not any longer...
 
2013-09-25 05:49:01 PM

theorellior: BigGrnEggGriller: Didn't we just spend a $1 trillion to fix stuff like this?

Only $2.6 trillion to go!


Once the Bureau of Engraving and Printing fixes the problem with the new $100, we'll be good to go.  Start the presses!
 
2013-09-25 05:49:53 PM

Marcus Aurelius: We can fix this bridge with tax cuts for the wealthy.


Everyone wins that way.  The people using the bridge will just trickle down into the river.
 
2013-09-25 05:51:02 PM

taliesinwi: Not to be a killjoy, but... http://www.jsonline.com/news/traffic/i-43-bridge-in-green-bay-closed- a fter-dip-reported-b99106394z1-225168872.html the steel itself didn't fail, the pier holding up that section decided to settle two feet.  Willing to bet they're going to find a groundwater problem they didn't know they had or something like that.


Luckily, it looks like this shouldn't impact traffic to get to Lambeau Field for Packers games much.  The bridge is right where the Fox River empties into the Bay, which is about 6 miles north of Lambeau.
 
2013-09-25 05:51:07 PM
"Four hundred feet have sagged on the east side of the bridge over land, not water, said Department of Transportation spokesman Kim Rudat."

I feel much safer that it is over land instead of water.  Had me worried for a minute.
 
2013-09-25 05:59:26 PM
I always hated driving over that bridge. It freaked me out. The Mackinac bridge didn't, but this one did every time.
 
2013-09-25 05:59:41 PM

B.Stroganoff: theorellior: BigGrnEggGriller: Didn't we just spend a $1 trillion to fix stuff like this?

Only $2.6 trillion to go!

Once the Bureau of Engraving and Printing fixes the problem with the new $100, we'll be good to go.  Start the presses!


This will probably actually help as there's supposed to be billions if not trillions of fake currency out there.
 
2013-09-25 06:00:57 PM
Four hundred feet have sagged on the east side of the bridge over land, not water, said Department of Transportation spokesman Kim Rudat.

Oh well that's OK then. Wait, what?
 
2013-09-25 06:03:06 PM
 
2013-09-25 06:15:08 PM
from blanchae's link....

"A motorist first reported the sag in the bridge just before 5 a.m. on Wednesday, September 25th. The motorist indicated the sag was seen on the east side of the bridge across all lanes. By 5:30 p.m., authorities had shut down the bridge to all traffic. "

Wow... 12+ hours.
 
2013-09-25 06:36:49 PM

theorellior: BigGrnEggGriller: Didn't we just spend a $1 trillion to fix stuff like this?

Only $2.6 trillion to go!


The good thing is that this spending is that it puts people to work here in America. The workers doing the improvements, plus all the companies providing the raw materials and such.


Being able to get from here to there easily also helps companies not involved in the construction.

It is spending, but the good effects of it ripple through the economy in ways that something like farm subsidies, or defense contracts, do not.
 
2013-09-25 06:41:32 PM
Gee, if we weren't so busy building everyone else's infrastructure we could be taking care of our own. What a novel idea.
 
2013-09-25 06:55:13 PM

BlackMtnMan: If only there was some way to avoid deicing roads...Like someone should invent learning to drive in bad weather or staying the fark home if you can't learn......but it's a pipe dream.


I read the article and saw no mention of deicing or road salt.  Was that in the video?

I'm more wondering if the pier is sinking in that swampy looking land there.
 
2013-09-25 06:59:01 PM
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2013-09-25 07:17:55 PM
All the job creators do everything by themselves, they don't need any of this socialist infrastructure.
 
2013-09-25 07:45:56 PM

RRicochet: Gee, if we weren't so busy building everyone else's infrastructure we could be taking care of our own. What a novel idea.


THIS. A thousand times, this.
It is time for the USA to stop being the boss of the whole world and be the boss of our own country.
 
2013-09-25 07:52:16 PM

RRicochet: Gee, if we weren't so busy building everyone else's infrastructure we could be taking care of our own. What a novel idea.


No-No-No! Defense contractors don't benefit from domestic infrastructure projects. Get with the program!
 
2013-09-25 07:55:14 PM

Amos Quito: She's only 33 and already sagging?


Hey, how did you get in here...
 
2013-09-25 07:58:18 PM
Fear not citizens our fearless Governor Scott Walker and his job creating polices will take care of this problem
 
2013-09-25 08:09:57 PM

boyvoyeur: Was it made by Fisher Price?

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blog.yellowdoggdesigns.com
 
2013-09-25 08:11:13 PM
We're going to need a lot more undocumented immigrants if we want to fix the problems in this country. We can't afford to do if we pay union wages to all the workers, plus, let's be honest, Real Americans are too good to do dirty manual labor. This is all grunt work that needs to be done by 3rd worlders.
 
2013-09-25 08:12:38 PM

gweilo8888: blatz514: My headline was funnier.

No it wasn't.


Ah. Mr(s). Negative Nellie strikes again
 
2013-09-25 08:13:57 PM

drjekel_mrhyde: Amos Quito: She's only 33 and already sagging?

I think I just pissed my pants laughing


You 'think'? Shouldn't it be obvious?
 
2013-09-25 08:18:05 PM
Could one of you whiners explain to me how more infrastructure spending could have prevented this?
 
2013-09-25 08:19:45 PM

B.Stroganoff: "Four hundred feet have sagged on the east side of the bridge over land, not water, said Department of Transportation spokesman Kim Rudat."

I feel much safer that it is over land instead of water.  Had me worried for a minute.


Over land should make for a faster, cheaper fix because you don't have to put any equipment on a barge or worry about dealing with passing boats.
 
2013-09-25 08:33:08 PM

John Buck 41: drjekel_mrhyde: Amos Quito: She's only 33 and already sagging?

I think I just pissed my pants laughing

You 'think'? Shouldn't it be obvious?


He is clear on the fact that he pissed his pants. He is uncertain whether the laughing is what caused it, or whether another factor may have been involved. There are many, diverse reasons for urinary incontinence. Perhaps this link can be helpful.
http://www.urinecolors.com/urinary_incontinence.php
 
2013-09-25 09:07:43 PM

BlackMtnMan: If only there was some way to avoid deicing roads...Like someone should invent learning to drive in bad weather or staying the fark home if you can't learn......but it's a pipe dream.


This, this, so much this. Now, not to say all my fellow Canadians are great drivers, but learn to drive, and use some kind of alternative to salt. And just a hint, you don't "NEED" 4WD to drive in winter, but you Definately "NEED" to know how to drive it properly in winter
 
2013-09-25 09:18:51 PM

magu2k: BlackMtnMan: If only there was some way to avoid deicing roads...Like someone should invent learning to drive in bad weather or staying the fark home if you can't learn......but it's a pipe dream.

This, this, so much this. Now, not to say all my fellow Canadians are great drivers, but learn to drive, and use some kind of alternative to salt. And just a hint, you don't "NEED" 4WD to drive in winter, but you Definately "NEED" to know how to drive it properly in winter


I must admit, my southern friends are very good winter drivers. Unfortunately too many people think 4wd or AWD means MAGIC. Here's the breakdown:
AWD/4WD will:
Help you get going very well.
Help you maneuver if you know what you are doing and properly apply power.
NOT help you stop in any way, shape or form.
I've noticed alot of Americans have a problem with the third part, especially in Colorado, but I've seen it all over the country.
 
2013-09-25 09:33:59 PM
They said I was mad to build a bridge in a swamp. But I built it anyways, just to show them. It sank into the swamp, so I built another one. That one sank into the swamp too, so I built a third one. That one burned down, fell over, and then sank into the swamp. But the fourth bridge, that stayed up! And that's what Green Bay is going to get, the strongest bridge in all of Wisconsin!
 
2013-09-25 09:42:14 PM

uncleacid: They should have done a discount double check


The discount was the issue.
 
2013-09-25 10:05:47 PM
My classmates in civil engineering insist that because there's so much infrastructure work that needs doing there are totally gonna be all kinds of jobs for them when they graduate.  I think I've been around long enough to know the truth:  Americans really will just watch the whole country fall down around their ears without even thinking about paying to fix it.  I don't trust us to spend the money on infrastructure if we did come up with it.  As tired old household analogies go, what's more exciting, fixing a hole in your roof or buying a Playstation 4?
 
2013-09-25 11:22:13 PM

taliesinwi: Not to be a killjoy, but... http://www.jsonline.com/news/traffic/i-43-bridge-in-green-bay-closed- a fter-dip-reported-b99106394z1-225168872.html the steel itself didn't fail, the pier holding up that section decided to settle two feet.  Willing to bet they're going to find a groundwater problem they didn't know they had or something like that.


Yup whoever did the soil analysis is going to get a beatdown.
 
2013-09-26 12:24:01 AM

Lawnchair: I don't know if I drive on any bridges newer than 1980 on a day to day basis.


A couple of weeks ago I drove on a bridge that was less than 2 hours old, but I'll admit that's pretty rare.

Otherwise, every freeway overpass around here is probably original from the 1950s.
 
2013-09-26 01:48:28 AM
avenueedmonton.com/articles/6-facts-about-road-salt

Ive never heard of any issues here re. Damage from salt but we use absolutely minimal amounts. Not sure if thats why, or different mix of concrete?
 
2013-09-26 02:07:02 AM

ImpendingCynic: Lawnchair: I don't know if I drive on any bridges newer than 1980 on a day to day basis.

A couple of weeks ago I drove on a bridge that was less than 2 hours old, but I'll admit that's pretty rare.

Otherwise, every freeway overpass around here is probably original from the 1950s.


The one down the road from me literally had holes rusted through the deck near a couple of the trusses. I'm extremely happy they shut it down and have been replacing it since May, especially since the traffic has been way lighter since then.
 
2013-09-26 02:18:12 AM

Lawnchair: "The bridge, built in 1980,"

Okay... that's some scary. Even before I read that far in the article, I had to go pull it up on street view and went "jeesh, this isn't some ancient bridge, is it".  I don't know if I drive on any bridges  newer than 1980 on a day to day basis.

And 1980 is even before we started importing all our structural steel from places more corrupt than Ohio.


That was back in the badass Reagan days. You know back when everyone was rich and we never ever had government scandals like Iran-Contra or anything like that. Sure we probably secured funds for the bridge prior to Reagan, but it was his retro American exceptionalist bridge inspectors who ok'd it.

Well that or it was Bush the first's. Too bad we let businesses take over the government.
 
2013-09-26 02:19:23 AM

John Buck 41: Ah. Mr(s). Negative Nellie strikes again


Not really. Mr. Joke Flying Over Your Head does, though.

/hint: I don't have TF
//hence I couldn't possibly know what his headline was
///figure the rest out yourself
 
2013-09-26 05:39:50 AM

gweilo8888: John Buck 41: Ah. Mr(s). Negative Nellie strikes again

Not really. Mr. Joke Flying Over Your Head does, though.

/hint: I don't have TF
//hence I couldn't possibly know what his headline was
///figure the rest out yourself


Ooh, someone's touchy.
 
2013-09-26 09:58:14 AM

John Buck 41: gweilo8888: John Buck 41: Ah. Mr(s). Negative Nellie strikes again

Not really. Mr. Joke Flying Over Your Head does, though.

/hint: I don't have TF
//hence I couldn't possibly know what his headline was
///figure the rest out yourself

Ooh, someone's touchy.


Yes he is.

And my headline was funnier.
 
2013-09-26 12:40:56 PM

John Buck 41: gweilo8888: John Buck 41: Ah. Mr(s). Negative Nellie strikes again

Not really. Mr. Joke Flying Over Your Head does, though.

/hint: I don't have TF
//hence I couldn't possibly know what his headline was
///figure the rest out yourself

Ooh, someone's touchy.


Yep, and they're calling people Negative Nellie because they don't have a sense of humor. ;-)

blatz514: And my headline was funnier.


No, it wasn't.
 
2013-09-26 01:06:15 PM

Rising_Zan_Samurai_Gunman: taliesinwi: Not to be a killjoy, but... http://www.jsonline.com/news/traffic/i-43-bridge-in-green-bay-closed- a fter-dip-reported-b99106394z1-225168872.html the steel itself didn't fail, the pier holding up that section decided to settle two feet.  Willing to bet they're going to find a groundwater problem they didn't know they had or something like that.

Luckily, it looks like this shouldn't impact traffic to get to Lambeau Field for Packers games much.  The bridge is right where the Fox River empties into the Bay, which is about 6 miles north of Lambeau.


Traffic can still use 172 which goes around the other side of Green Bay than 43. Most traffic for Lambeau uses 172 anyways.
 
2013-09-26 04:46:11 PM

gweilo8888: John Buck 41: gweilo8888: John Buck 41: Ah. Mr(s). Negative Nellie strikes again

Not really. Mr. Joke Flying Over Your Head does, though.

/hint: I don't have TF
//hence I couldn't possibly know what his headline was
///figure the rest out yourself

Ooh, someone's touchy.

Yep, and they're calling people Negative Nellie because they don't have a sense of humor. ;-)


Says the guy/gal who thinks his/her OP was humorous.
 
2013-09-26 07:28:21 PM

John Buck 41: Says the guy/gal who thinks his/her OP was humorous.


You mean just like the guy/gal who thought their headline was funnier?

/You probably have a bald spot by now, this has whooshed just microns over your head so many times
 
2013-09-26 07:54:59 PM

gweilo8888: John Buck 41: Says the guy/gal who thinks his/her OP was humorous.

You mean just like the guy/gal who thought their headline was funnier?

/You probably have a bald spot by now, this has whooshed just microns over your head so many times


And you have a cavity in your brain where the humor lobe normally resides.
 
2013-09-27 03:16:48 AM

John Buck 41: And you have a cavity in your brain where the humor lobe normally resides.


Boo hoo. My widdle tiny feewings are huwt.

You'll excuse me if I don't take my humor assessments from Captain Whoosh.
 
2013-09-27 05:42:44 AM

gweilo8888: John Buck 41: And you have a cavity in your brain where the humor lobe normally resides.

Boo hoo. My widdle tiny feewings are huwt.

You'll excuse me if I don't take my humor assessments from Captain Whoosh.


By all means you're excused, Lt. Loony
 
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