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(CNN)   Mailing a letter would cost three cents more, or 49 cents, which is crazy and means mailing the entire alphabet would cost $12.74   (money.cnn.com) divider line 98
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2013-09-25 12:58:26 PM  
mojoimage.com
 
2013-09-25 01:08:53 PM  
It would actually cost a lot more subby.

/Everyone forgets you have to buy the vowels first
 
2013-09-25 01:15:42 PM  
So you're telling me I can pay a mere 49 cents to have a piece of paper transported four thousand miles and put in the hands of someone on the other side of the country in a matter of days?
 
BURN IT DOWN!
 
2013-09-25 01:15:54 PM  
Needs to be at least 75 cents.
 
2013-09-25 01:19:55 PM  

kronicfeld: So you're telling me I can pay a mere 49 cents to have a piece of paper transported four thousand miles and put in the hands of someone on the other side of the country in a matter of days?


The Obamaphone program cost $2 billion dollars. That's enough to mail more than 4 billion letters. I rest my case.
 
2013-09-25 01:20:37 PM  

12349876: Needs to be at least 75 cents.


And the insane funding the Post office is required by law to do for its pension fund needs to be dropped to a resonable requirement. I keep reading this is one of the biggest drags on post office revenue. But I think a $75 cents stamp is reasonable. People say a high priced stamp negatively affects the poor and reitired people, but how many letters do they mail out a month? Mailing out 30 letters a month costs $22.50. Still a good deal, and not too much of a hardship.
 
2013-09-25 01:20:47 PM  
I'm going to send them a strongly worded email.
 
2013-09-25 01:21:38 PM  
img.pandawhale.com
 
2013-09-25 01:21:56 PM  
Jeeze, just make it 50 cents.
 
2013-09-25 01:22:00 PM  
Perhaps they can have a value-added service, like where the postman sings for the recipient. A singing mailgram or something.
 
2013-09-25 01:22:49 PM  
OMG who the hell cares?
 
GBB
2013-09-25 01:23:38 PM  
Eliminate bulk-rate junk-mail rates.
 
2013-09-25 01:24:47 PM  
Do they charge for punctuation too?
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-09-25 01:25:00 PM  
what is a stamp?
 
2013-09-25 01:25:39 PM  
Just charge 50.00 for each bundle of unbound coupons and fliers for teeth whitening that get shoved in my mailbox and the post office would be stable for the next 300 years
 
2013-09-25 01:26:04 PM  

12349876: Needs to be at least 75 cents.


It really does.  That's close to what standard person-to-person mailing costs anywhere else in the western world.  Yes, volumes would drop.   Good. The USPS would probably have to lay off more people (or at least close down any hires for quite a while).   So be it.  If you're losing money on the average transaction, the answer isn't always "but we make it up in volume".
 
2013-09-25 01:26:46 PM  

GBB: Eliminate bulk-rate junk-mail rates.


Or raise bulk mail rates.
Srsly, This.
 
2013-09-25 01:28:10 PM  
+1 subby, another +1 for mad maff skillz
 
2013-09-25 01:28:17 PM  

GBB: Eliminate bulk-rate junk-mail rates.


Just add a nickel to the bulk-rate junk mail, and give the nickel to the person who has to receive it.

Or the mailbox owner can get a first class stamp for every ten pieces of junk mail. People would sign up for all sorts of flyers and catalogs, and mail volume would go through the roof.
 
2013-09-25 01:29:24 PM  
If this continues this I will be forced to use Comic Sans mixed with Papyrus in protest as default fonts for addresses.

\It would help if Republicans would stop trying to the USPS for kicks and giggles too.
 
2013-09-25 01:29:49 PM  

simplicimus: GBB: Eliminate bulk-rate junk-mail rates.

Or raise bulk mail rates.
Srsly, This.


Something tells me you two are on the same side on this one..
 
2013-09-25 01:32:12 PM  
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-09-25 01:32:18 PM  

kronicfeld: So you're telling me I can pay a mere 49 cents to have a piece of paper transported four thousand miles and put in the hands of someone on the other side of the country in a matter of days?
 BURN IT DOWN!


I would actually pay 1.00 for this service if I needed it.  And why the hell 49 cents????  Does 50 seem too high?
 
2013-09-25 01:33:12 PM  
For those wanting some reference on postage rates around the world.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17614367
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405270230443270457734808167514 4 936.html

/both from April 2012 so may not be 100% accurate
//but I'm assuming no one has dropped their rates since then, if anything they're up
 
2013-09-25 01:34:41 PM  
Healthcare, jobs, foreign policies....all difficult to manage for the world's most powerful country. But this fat, lame, agency has to make some obvious changes that most Americans could figure out. It's just not the future pension payments that's f***ing you USPS.
 
2013-09-25 01:37:43 PM  
Don't we all just use Forever stamps?
 
2013-09-25 01:39:20 PM  

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: Don't we all just use Forever stamps?


I stocked up a couple of years ago, when they came out. Still using that batch.
 
2013-09-25 01:41:13 PM  
The Obamaphone program cost $2 billion dollars. That's enough to mail more than 4 billion letters. I rest my case.

I hate to tell you this, but the phone program started before Obama.
 
2013-09-25 01:42:10 PM  
It's a little bit insane that the cost of mailing a letter is the same whether it's going across town or across the country.  Perhaps having a zone system for basic mailings would work.  On the downside, that would take a lot of educating the public to the change.
 
2013-09-25 01:42:21 PM  
People still send mail?
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-09-25 01:42:42 PM  

wiseolddude: The Obamaphone program cost $2 billion dollars. That's enough to mail more than 4 billion letters. I rest my case.

I hate to tell you this, but the phone program started before Obama.


I don't like the word "sheeple," but people repeating the "Obamaphone" argument (or talking about Teleprompters) fit the word.
 
2013-09-25 01:43:43 PM  

Enemabag Jones: If this continues this I will be forced to use Comic Sans mixed with Papyrus in protest as default fonts for addresses.

\It would help if Republicans would stop trying to the USPS for kicks and giggles too.


If the USPS could make money except for those evil Rethuglicans, why not have it go through an IPO?
 
2013-09-25 01:43:56 PM  

GBB: Eliminate bulk-rate junk-mail rates.


It's still a bigger revenue stream than packages at this point:

2012 breakdown of revenue by mail class
First-Class Mail - $28.9 billion
Advertising Mail - $16.4 billion
Shipping & Package Services - $11.6 billion
Periodicals - $1.7 billion

Profit-wise, OTOH, is much higher for First-Class than for Standard mail, although I don't have the figures in front of me.

/Why yes, I do work for the USPS
 
2013-09-25 01:47:43 PM  

milowitz: Healthcare, jobs, foreign policies....all difficult to manage for the world's most powerful country. But this fat, lame, agency has to make some obvious changes that most Americans could figure out. It's just not the future pension payments that's f***ing you USPS.


All the changes are figured out. The Postmaster General sent out a presentation showing how we could be profitable very quickly. The problem is ANY change we make (like no Saturday mail, closing POs, rate changes) have to be approved by Congress, and you see how well Congress gets things done.
 
2013-09-25 01:48:49 PM  

skinink: 12349876: Needs to be at least 75 cents.

And the insane funding the Post office is required by law to do for its pension fund needs to be dropped to a resonable requirement. I keep reading this is one of the biggest drags on post office revenue. But I think a $75 cents stamp is reasonable. People say a high priced stamp negatively affects the poor and reitired people, but how many letters do they mail out a month? Mailing out 30 letters a month costs $22.50. Still a good deal, and not too much of a hardship.


These are also the same people that think that traveling to the dmv once to get a free state issued ID for voting purposes is racist and a hardship on the poor and minorities.
 
WGJ
2013-09-25 01:50:17 PM  
24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-09-25 01:54:26 PM  

jaybeezey: These are also the same people that think that traveling to the dmv once to get a free state issued ID for voting purposes is racist and a hardship on the poor and minorities.


Off-topic, but the complaints wouldn't have been so vehement if that requirement wasn't coupled with closing 3/4ths of the state's DMV offices (including virtually all in poorer areas).

Also, in my state anyway, the DMV will in fact provide you a free non-driver ID (no more than one per decade).  But, by law, they aren't allowed to tell you that they can provide you a free non-driver ID.  No posters, no worker allowed to tell you that, nothing. There is a price on the books for getting an ID. You have to know that there's a law allowing you to get a free one and say it.  Then they provide you a form where you swear that you can't afford one.  Bonkers world.
 
2013-09-25 01:58:13 PM  

Lawnchair: 12349876: Needs to be at least 75 cents.

It really does.  That's close to what standard person-to-person mailing costs anywhere else in the western world.  Yes, volumes would drop.   Good. The USPS would probably have to lay off more people (or at least close down any hires for quite a while).   So be it.  If you're losing money on the average transaction, the answer isn't always "but we make it up in volume".


Jobs are jobs, the USPS shouldn't be laying people off.  Whether jobs are created by the government or by private enterprise (and the USPS sort of exists in a grey area between the two) it's a good thing.

Raise the price of stamps, it's not that big of a deal especially since most things can be done online anyway.  They'd be smart to raise the prices on junk mail though, it would have the benefit of increasing revenue and decreasing the volume of the stuff they have to process and that I have to throw out.
 
2013-09-25 02:02:25 PM  

GBB: Eliminate bulk-rate junk-mail rates.


Um, why?
 
2013-09-25 02:03:15 PM  

Lawnchair: 12349876: Needs to be at least 75 cents.

It really does.  That's close to what standard person-to-person mailing costs anywhere else in the western world.  Yes, volumes would drop.   Good. The USPS would probably have to lay off more people (or at least close down any hires for quite a while).   So be it.   If you're losing money on the average transaction, the answer isn't always ever"but we make it up in volume".

 
2013-09-25 02:04:22 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: Jobs are jobs, the USPS shouldn't be laying people off.  Whether jobs are created by the government or by private enterprise (and the USPS sort of exists in a grey area between the two) it's a good thing.


We have a no-layoff policy for employees covered by a union contract (of which I am one, even though I work in IT.) Salaried people can technically get laid off, I believe, but I don't think they have ever done it, just used early retirement incentives.
 
2013-09-25 02:05:36 PM  
I'm still working off the book of forever stamps I bought 4 years ago, so I think I'll survive this one.
 
2013-09-25 02:09:42 PM  
Meh, considering the devaluation of the dollar, the increased energy costs, gas, ect, it's still reasonable.
 
2013-09-25 02:10:18 PM  

GBB: Eliminate bulk-rate junk-mail rates.


THIS x1000
 
2013-09-25 02:16:01 PM  
blatz514: GBB: Eliminate bulk-rate junk-mail rates.

Um, why?

Because I don't like junk mail. And end the franking privilege while we're at it.
 
2013-09-25 02:18:40 PM  
YixilTesiphon ,
If the USPS could make money except for those evil Rethuglicans, why not have it go through an IPO?


Call me a 'socialist' if you like that term.

I think some services are better not made a profit from because they are important to human welfare. Having for-profit prisons encourages putting more people in prison. Having for-profit health is pushing the US to the stupid edge regarding costs vs who is and how well they are served is insanity.

Pushing the USPS to be more beholden to the stockholders vs the interest of the US citizens is not a good thing.

I am personally tired of seeing services privatized, usually by Republicans, too often for sweetheart deal comparable to what happened to Russia in the early 90's.
 
2013-09-25 02:21:56 PM  

d23: what is a stamp?


I recall reading about something similar recently in a delightful book by Terry Pratchett called Going Postal.  But that was a work of fiction.  Surely nothing like that could exist in the real world.
 
2013-09-25 02:24:33 PM  
avc.blogs.com
Buy a bunch now.   Good to go.  Why is anyone upset about this???
 
2013-09-25 02:26:14 PM  
Clustered mailboxes for neighborhoods. Instead of having a box on your door, the USPS should build clustered mailboxes in a central location for every 100 addresses.

I'd rather see the USPS go to a drive through service like the banks. No more door to door delivery. You drive up, identify yourself and they hand you your mail. Any mail over three weeks old is destroyed.
 
2013-09-25 02:28:51 PM  

simplicimus: blatz514: GBB: Eliminate bulk-rate junk-mail rates.

Um, why?

Because I don't like junk mail. And end the franking privilege while we're at it.


I see bulk mail in a whole 'nother light.  I work at a public university.  If we would have to mail out recruiting materials and the like all at first class rate, that state would go lose a shiat-load of money seeing that there is approx.  29 state funded schools.  But I understand the why people hate "junk mail."  I'll try finding a citation of why eliminating standard rate mail would be very bad for the USPS.
 
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