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(RealClear)   Secretary of State John Kerry to sign controversial UN arms treaty...even after the Senate said it would never ratify it. So, basically he's performing diplomatic masturbation   (realclear.com) divider line 190
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2013-09-25 09:15:37 AM
So, let me get this straight:  Fox New is ridiculing Kerry for political theater and MSNBC is ridiculing Cruz for political theater.  And you guys actually choose between these two sides?
 
2013-09-25 09:17:27 AM
GOP-like behavior detected
 
2013-09-25 09:18:46 AM
So basically he's mimicking what House Republicans have been doing every single day since 2010
 
2013-09-25 09:19:18 AM
I don't know how they expect to get decent ratings with this political theater now that the new seasons have started.
 
2013-09-25 09:22:42 AM
And of course the wingnuts are using this to claim the UN is coming for your guns
 
2013-09-25 09:27:46 AM

SilentStrider: And of course the wingnuts are using this to claim the UN is coming for your guns


I thought those would be collected at the FEMA camps?
 
2013-09-25 09:28:12 AM
Three Crooked Squirrels [TotalFark]

GOP-like behavior detected


As he ignores kerry/obama pushing to send crates of weapons to al qaeda
 
2013-09-25 09:29:31 AM

Lucky LaRue: So, let me get this straight:  Fox New is ridiculing Kerry for political theater and MSNBC is ridiculing Cruz for political theater.  And you guys actually choose between these two sides?


Yes, because only one of these two sides is actively cheerleading for an economic catastrophe just to spite the other side.
 
2013-09-25 09:29:38 AM

OnlyM3: Three Crooked Squirrels [TotalFark]

GOP-like behavior detected

As he ignores kerry/obama pushing to send crates of weapons to al qaeda


He's reaching across the aisle and trying the GOP plan.
 
2013-09-25 09:30:29 AM
FTFA: Sen. Jim Inhofe, R-Okla., one of the most vocal opponents of the treaty, sent a letter to Kerry declaring it "dead in the water,"

If you take your policy cues from Inhofe, a global climate change denier and birfer who can't stand the thought of women or gay people serving in the military, believes there is no separation of church and state, and also has gone on record as saying the 9/11 attacks were God's punishment for America, there isn't much anyone can do for you.
 
2013-09-25 09:32:18 AM

Diogenes: I don't know how they expect to get decent ratings with this political theater now that the new seasons have started.


C-Span is socialist tv.  Ratings are not necessary for renewal of bad programs...just like British TV.
 
2013-09-25 09:33:10 AM

Lucky LaRue: So, let me get this straight:  Fox New is ridiculing Kerry for political theater and MSNBC is ridiculing Cruz for political theater.  And you guys actually choose between these two sides?


Why, they ARE both the same! That's AMAZING. HOW did I not see this before?

Now explain to the class why the Senate isn't going to ratify it.
 
2013-09-25 09:35:29 AM

OnlyM3: Three Crooked Squirrels [TotalFark]

GOP-like behavior detected

As he ignores kerry/obama pushing to send crates of weapons to al qaeda


Settle down.  We needed a new Reagan.  A Democrat Reagan.  Quit complaining when he starts gun running.  Maybe we'll get a neat video game out of it like the old Contra.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-09-25 09:38:34 AM

OnlyM3: As he ignores kerry/obama pushing to send crates of weapons to al qaeda


You mean McCain?
 
2013-09-25 09:39:46 AM

King Something: Lucky LaRue: So, let me get this straight:  Fox New is ridiculing Kerry for political theater and MSNBC is ridiculing Cruz for political theater.  And you guys actually choose between these two sides?

Yes, because only one of these two sides is actively cheerleading for an economic catastrophe just to spite the other side.


Yep.  The GOP wants to destroy the economy and ruin America - all because the country elected a Black man to the presidency.  It is amazing how liberals make themselves look like complete jackasses considering how wise and erudite their observations are.
 
2013-09-25 09:42:23 AM

Lando Lincoln: Lucky LaRue: So, let me get this straight:  Fox New is ridiculing Kerry for political theater and MSNBC is ridiculing Cruz for political theater.  And you guys actually choose between these two sides?

Why, they ARE both the same! That's AMAZING. HOW did I not see this before?

Now explain to the class why the Senate isn't going to ratify it.


Oh, I'm sure in your narrative it has to do with one side or the other making villainous, partisan plans to destroy America.
 
2013-09-25 09:44:44 AM

Lucky LaRue: Oh, I'm sure in your narrative it has to do with one side or the other making villainous, partisan plans to destroy America.


No, my narrative has to do with the Senate not ratifying it because the NRA doesn't want them to. And the NRA doesn't want them to because they're nutjobs.
 
2013-09-25 09:49:47 AM

Lando Lincoln: And the NRA doesn't want them to because they're nutjobs bought and paid for by gun manufacturers.


FTFY
 
2013-09-25 09:50:43 AM
buuuut republicans in the house repealing obamacare 42 times *when it would never pass the senate by enough votes to override a presidential veto... that's just A-OK!

IOKIYAR


*and counting
 
2013-09-25 09:52:07 AM

OnlyM3: Three Crooked Squirrels [TotalFark]

GOP-like behavior detected

As he ignores kerry/obama pushing to send crates of weapons to al qaeda


john mccain wants to arm the syrian opposition. are you saying john mccain wants to send crates of weapons to al qaeda?
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-09-25 09:54:05 AM

Lucky LaRue: Oh, I'm sure in your narrative it has to do with one side or the other making villainous, partisan plans to destroy America.


That and reality.  You haven't been paying attention for the last few years have you?
 
2013-09-25 09:54:53 AM

vpb: OnlyM3: As he ignores kerry/obama pushing to send crates of weapons to al qaeda

You mean McCain?


Holy shiat---Kerry and Obama are running guns to MCCAIN?
 
2013-09-25 09:56:52 AM

Lucky LaRue: King Something: Lucky LaRue: So, let me get this straight:  Fox New is ridiculing Kerry for political theater and MSNBC is ridiculing Cruz for political theater.  And you guys actually choose between these two sides?

Yes, because only one of these two sides is actively cheerleading for an economic catastrophe just to spite the other side.

Yep.  The GOP wants to destroy the economy and ruin America - all because the country elected a Black man to the presidency.  It is amazing how liberals make themselves look like complete jackasses considering how wise and erudite their observations are.


3.bp.blogspot.com
O-HO! Is funny because it's true! O-ho-ho-ho!

/and if you still don't think it's true, compare the GOP's behavior over the last five years or so to their behavior over the previous hundred
//specifically, compare which of those tow time periods has more examples of the GOP filibustering their own legislation just because the Democratic President has publicly stated that he approves of that legislation; voting to defund the teleprompter; or turning the raising of the debt ceiling from an ordinary and mundane procedure which passed with less fanfare and debate than the renaming of post offices into a major bargaining chip in order to get no less than 98% of what they want, in exchange for allowing the country to pay for spending that they themselves authorized
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-09-25 09:59:41 AM

Somacandra: vpb: OnlyM3: As he ignores kerry/obama pushing to send crates of weapons to al qaeda

You mean McCain?

Holy shiat---Kerry and Obama are running guns to MCCAIN?


It's worse than you thought.  Soon it will be "Old man shoots at cloud".
 
2013-09-25 10:00:44 AM

FlashHarry: buuuut republicans in the house repealing obamacare 42 times *when it would never pass the senate by enough votes to override a presidential veto... that's just A-OK!

IOKIYAR


*and counting


An old British judge once said that the difference between the British Judges and American Judges was that British Judges will say as little as possible, to the point of not ruling on anything, in the hopes that they don't say something wrong.  American Judges, however, will say as much as possible in the hopes of saying something right.

The House are the American Judges.  The Senate the British Judges.  One is hyper-active, and the other is paralyzed.
 
2013-09-25 10:03:11 AM
A State official said the treaty would "reduce the risk that international transfers of conventional arms will be used to carry out the world's worst crimes," while protecting gun rights.

You mean like transferring weapons to Mexican drug cartels or Al Qaeda operatives? Yeah, someone probably should put a stop to that.
 
2013-09-25 10:07:50 AM

vpb: Lucky LaRue: Oh, I'm sure in your narrative it has to do with one side or the other making villainous, partisan plans to destroy America.

That and reality.  You haven't been paying attention for the last few years have you?


Oh, I've been paying attention, and I'm not saying the far right aren't a bunch of sleazy shiats with an anti-Obama agenda.  I am just observing that (1) not everyone in the GOP is on the far right, (2) the far left is just as bat-shiat insane with their "the GOP wants to destroy the economy to spite Obama" narrative, and (3) not all Democrats is far left.

It never ceases to amaze me that, whenever I talk to herbal teabaggers, they are convinced that all Democrats think like they do and are suspicious of the moderates in their party... it is strikingly similar to the teabaggers on the right that have the audacity to label McConnell a RINO.
 
2013-09-25 10:09:12 AM

Somacandra: FTFA: Sen. Jim Inhofe, R-Okla., one of the most vocal opponents of the treaty, sent a letter to Kerry declaring it "dead in the water,"

If you take your policy cues from Inhofe, a global climate change denier and birfer who can't stand the thought of women or gay people serving in the military, believes there is no separation of church and state, and also has gone on record as saying the 9/11 attacks were God's punishment for America, there isn't much anyone can do for you.


THIS!

And just how is this political theater? I always thought that the Executive branch would think a treaty is a good idea nad send it to Congress to reject or ratify it. Congress does not get to negotiate the terms of the treaty. They ratify it or reject it. Simple as that.

Here's the rub.
The chance of adoption by the U.S. is slim. A two-thirds majority would be needed in the Senate to ratify.

There is no chance in hell that any treaty no matter what it is will get through the current legislature.

So the Sec of State should just stop doing his job?
 
2013-09-25 10:09:41 AM

Lucky LaRue: King Something: Lucky LaRue: So, let me get this straight:  Fox New is ridiculing Kerry for political theater and MSNBC is ridiculing Cruz for political theater.  And you guys actually choose between these two sides?

Yes, because only one of these two sides is actively cheerleading for an economic catastrophe just to spite the other side.

Yep.  The GOP wants to destroy the economy and ruin America - all because the country elected a Black man to the presidency.  It is amazing how liberals make themselves look like complete jackasses considering how wise and erudite their observations are.


The GOP purposefully got the credit rating downgraded and is threatening the same if we continue the awful practice of giving more US citizens health insurance

Your argument is invalid
 
2013-09-25 10:11:35 AM

Nabb1: A State official said the treaty would "reduce the risk that international transfers of conventional arms will be used to carry out the world's worst crimes," while protecting gun rights.

You mean like transferring weapons to Mexican drug cartels or Al Qaeda operatives? Yeah, someone probably should put a stop to that.


I agree. The Bush family should have never done those things, either
 
2013-09-25 10:17:43 AM
I love how 20-30 sane, humorous, rational snarks are found, while all the dipshiats I already have on ignore. Well played fark. Carry on.
 
2013-09-25 10:18:25 AM

Peter von Nostrand: Lucky LaRue: King Something: Lucky LaRue: So, let me get this straight:  Fox New is ridiculing Kerry for political theater and MSNBC is ridiculing Cruz for political theater.  And you guys actually choose between these two sides?

Yes, because only one of these two sides is actively cheerleading for an economic catastrophe just to spite the other side.

Yep.  The GOP wants to destroy the economy and ruin America - all because the country elected a Black man to the presidency.  It is amazing how liberals make themselves look like complete jackasses considering how wise and erudite their observations are.

The GOP purposefully got the credit rating downgraded and is threatening the same if we continue the awful practice of giving more US citizens health insurance

Your argument is invalid


You are a product of your culture that is steeped in the mythology of good-vs-evil, light-vs-dark, god-vs-satan.  It is only natural that you orient your political views along similar black-and-white dichotomies.  Really, it isn't that I don't understand.  I'm just a little disappointed is all.
 
2013-09-25 10:27:54 AM

nekom: Lando Lincoln: And the NRA doesn't want them to because they're nutjobs bought and paid for by gun manufacturers.

FTFY


It's the other-way 'round:  The gun manufacturers are bought and paid for by the NRA, because the NRA has the muscle to shut down a gun manufacturer that steps out of line, even the biggest, most prestigious manufacturers.

See:   Smith & Wesson Agreement of 2000.

Moral of the story:  Don't piss off your customers.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-09-25 10:29:23 AM

Lucky LaRue: Oh, I've been paying attention, and I'm not saying the far right aren't a bunch of sleazy shiats with an anti-Obama agenda.  I am just observing that (1) not everyone in the GOP is on the far right, (2) the far left is just as bat-shiat insane with their "the GOP wants to destroy the economy to spite Obama" narrative, and (3) not all Democrats is far left.

It never ceases to amaze me that, whenever I talk to herbal teabaggers, they are convinced that all Democrats think like they do and are suspicious of the moderates in their party... it is strikingly similar to the teabaggers on the right that have the audacity to label McConnell a RINO.


The GOPers who aren't on the far right aren't in control, and the GOP appears to be preparing to damage the economy to spite Obamacare.

What effect do you think a government shutdown and a default will have?
 
2013-09-25 10:38:49 AM

Lucky LaRue: So, let me get this straight:  Fox New is ridiculing Kerry for political theater and MSNBC is ridiculing Cruz for political theater.  And you guys actually choose between these two sides?


Well is trying to stop a bad law from affecting the American people, in a very attention whorish way. The other is undermining the credibility of the country he is servicing in the eyes of the international community, in a very attention whorish way.


So if Cruz makes it happens he helps the American people, there is no up side of what Kerry is doing.

So, vote Republican
 
2013-09-25 10:39:25 AM

Lucky LaRue: Peter von Nostrand: Lucky LaRue: King Something: Lucky LaRue: So, let me get this straight:  Fox New is ridiculing Kerry for political theater and MSNBC is ridiculing Cruz for political theater.  And you guys actually choose between these two sides?

Yes, because only one of these two sides is actively cheerleading for an economic catastrophe just to spite the other side.

Yep.  The GOP wants to destroy the economy and ruin America - all because the country elected a Black man to the presidency.  It is amazing how liberals make themselves look like complete jackasses considering how wise and erudite their observations are.

The GOP purposefully got the credit rating downgraded and is threatening the same if we continue the awful practice of giving more US citizens health insurance

Your argument is invalid

You are a product of your culture that is steeped in the mythology of good-vs-evil, light-vs-dark, god-vs-satan.  It is only natural that you orient your political views along similar black-and-white dichotomies.  Really, it isn't that I don't understand.  I'm just a little disappointed is all.


So you jerked yourself off thinking that little bit made you sound smart and above the fray

An independent. On Fark
 
2013-09-25 10:45:43 AM
Controversial to those who rely on paranoia politics.
 
2013-09-25 10:46:04 AM
The only thing that makes the UN Arms Export treaty controversial is the constant stream of paranoid delusional bullshiat being spewed by FOX news and it's cohorts and allies in conservative media.

If you wanted to start the process of disarming terror groups like Al Queda, you'd WANT something like an arms export agreement amongst the major players in international arms sales.

Farking morans....
 
2013-09-25 10:47:45 AM
So, without clicking on a Fox News link, WTF is this particular arms treaty about anyway?
 
2013-09-25 10:49:01 AM
"John Kerry" and "masturbation": two concepts you never want to see in close proximity to each other.
 
2013-09-25 10:50:06 AM

Lucky LaRue: King Something: Lucky LaRue: So, let me get this straight:  Fox New is ridiculing Kerry for political theater and MSNBC is ridiculing Cruz for political theater.  And you guys actually choose between these two sides?

Yes, because only one of these two sides is actively cheerleading for an economic catastrophe just to spite the other side.

Yep.  The GOP wants to destroy the economy and ruin America - all because the country elected a Black man to the presidency.


In fairness, it's the teabaggers that want that, they just happen to control the GOP narrative at this time due to weak leadership.

  It is amazing how liberals make themselves look like complete jackasses considering how wise and erudite their observations are.
 
2013-09-25 10:50:50 AM
"The administration is wasting precious time ..."  - from the party that has spent the last 3 years voting over and over again to try to defund the same healthcare law.  Well, that and abortion bills.
 
2013-09-25 10:56:06 AM

Nabb1: A State official said the treaty would "reduce the risk that international transfers of conventional arms will be used to carry out the world's worst crimes," while protecting gun rights.

You mean like transferring weapons to Mexican drug cartels or Al Qaeda operatives? Yeah, someone probably should put a stop to that.


Remember, boys and girls:

* Everyone should be able to buy whatever weapons they want, as many as they want, no questions asked.
* Fast and Furious did something wrong.
 
2013-09-25 10:56:08 AM

Lucky LaRue: (3) not all Democrats is far left.


One Democrat is far left. One. Oops, strike that. He's not a Democrat. He's an Independent.
 
2013-09-25 10:57:00 AM

Lucky LaRue: So, let me get this straight:  Fox New is ridiculing Kerry for political theater and MSNBC is ridiculing Cruz for political theater.  And you guys actually choose between these two sides?


Kerry's political theater will have zero effect. Cruz and the House radicals' theater may shut down our government and default on our national debt and cause our economy to collapse.

But clearly, BSAB.
 
2013-09-25 10:58:55 AM

King Something: Lucky LaRue: Uh.. I'm a Democrat, dipshiat, not an independent

Sure you are. You're as much a Democrat as I am a chupacabra.


I wonder if you read my earlier comment about how the far-left it is suspicious of the moderates in their party and how their paranoia is strikingly similar to the teabaggers on the right that have the audacity to label McConnell a RINO..  I kind of hope not, because the irony in your statement is priceless.
 
2013-09-25 11:01:07 AM
Gather round children, and see how FW:FW:FW:FW emails get made.

TheUsualSuspect
The bigger issue here is, if the United Nations can dictate laws in the USA regarding firearms they can dictate laws about anything!  Over my dead body.
I wouldn't care if the law was about eating spinach I'm against it now and forever amen.  As Senator Obama co-sponsored a bill called the "Global Poverty Act" that would have given the UN the right to tax the USA .8% of the US GDP for distribution to poor nations (and greedy UN officials) around the world.  That's all I had to know about OHB right there, he's a one worlder then and a one worlder now.  If I had my way I would opt of of the United Nations altogether

@TheUsualSuspect
I did not know about the Global Poverty Act. Thank you for your input - we can not afford to feed the world.


Check it out.  He's OHB now.  Conservatives have their own in-jokes.
 
2013-09-25 11:01:43 AM

theknuckler_33: Cruz and the House radicals' theater may shut down our governmen

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Uh.. no.  Cruz struck a deal with Reid.  He's up there because Reid gave him permission to go full derp and pretend to filibuster.  He's only there as long as Harry wants him there and, at the end of his rant, the bill will go to a simple majority vote and be rejected.
 
2013-09-25 11:01:43 AM
If there was any doubt that the GOP was catering to conspiracy nuts it would be the opposition to this treaty.
 
2013-09-25 11:02:31 AM

Fart_Machine: If there was any doubt that the GOP was catering to conspiracy nuts it would be the opposition to this treaty.


Agenda 21!
 
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