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(Talking Points Memo)   I will not talk on a log, to a frog, in a bog, in dense fog, about a loan, as it's shown, on an Obamaphone. I will not, could not, let people share. I would not, could not fund Obamacare   (talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 90
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2013-09-25 09:18:17 AM  
7 votes:

Dancin_In_Anson: How many of you championed Wendy Davis?


You mean the woman that performed a real filibuster, with a real point, to actually block harmful legislation?

Yea, there's a massive difference between what she did and what this dude is doing.
2013-09-25 08:45:32 AM  
6 votes:
The thing that blows me away the most, is that he turns Green Eggs and Ham of all things into a talk about the ACA... I honestly think that this is the first time hes ever actually read the book.

Hey Ted, The moral of the story is that you cant know if you like something or not before you try it.


or maybe he was just trying to send a political message to the other Elected GOP members.

If we let people use the ACA, they are going to like it, so we have to do everything in our power to stop or derail it.
2013-09-25 08:39:56 AM  
6 votes:
"Filibustering" a bill that became law forty-two months ago should really go a long way to combat the perception that Republicans are a bunch of purposeless obstructionists living in the past.
2013-09-25 07:46:58 AM  
5 votes:
So he's saying once Americans try it, they'll love Obamacare?

Maybe a more apt comparison than he intended...
2013-09-25 11:05:04 AM  
3 votes:

SlothB77: We don't know what is in the bill


So read it. It's not that long, shorter than "Atlas Shrugged". It's not our fault you are lazy.
2013-09-25 11:04:02 AM  
3 votes:

SlothB77: as wanting poor people to die.


but the poor people can't afford health insurance because they're spending their money on food, clothing and shelter. Surely, it's within our best interests as a nation to make sure that our poorest citizens have the ability to be treated for their medical needs and not have to worry about going bankrupt? We are the richest, most powerful nation in the world, and yet we treat our poor like shiat. Surely, we can do better and must do better and this is but one step to make the lives better for not just the poorest Americans, but all Americans
2013-09-25 11:02:20 AM  
3 votes:

SlothB77: Rapmaster2000: It's really a perfect choice.

Sam:  "I've never had green eggs and ham, but I know I don't like them".
Cruz:  "I've never had Obamacare, but I know I don't like it."

We don't know what is in the bill. The right thing to do is to pass it and burden the people with it.

By the way people, no matter how many times you repeat it on the internet, being against Obamacare is not the same as wanting poor people to die.


without a hint of irony
2013-09-25 09:38:12 AM  
3 votes:

Dancin_In_Anson: How many of you championed Wendy Davis?


Native Texan woman here. I grabbed a six-pack of Shiner and watched the whole farking thing. I figured that if she could stand and talk, I could certainly sit comfortably, have a beer and listen. (I wish I could've been in Austin) Wendy Davis is intelligent and inspiring. Ted Cruz is an AW'ing asshat.
2013-09-25 09:38:01 AM  
3 votes:

Aristocles: Heliovdrake: Aristocles: Ted Cruz is a modern day Abolitionist. He and a handful of other freedom loving Patriots are fighting tooth and nail to Abolish Obamacare.

Aristocles, you need to go.

Teds little stand up routine here doesn't actually accomplish anything, it isn't even a real filibuster for christs sake.

Most of American has already decided to try the Green Eggs and Ham provided by the ACA.

In fact, we voted on it... twice on a national level.

The GoP has failed to do anything about it, 42 times now.

42 times...

failed.

So? We're being held hostage by BOB and the dems. over 50% of Americans don't want Obamacare while about 42% support it. That's a minority controlling the majority, I seem to remember Farklibs warning about the dangers of this.


Who is Bob?

Do you know this Bob of which you speak, or are you just a sneak.

Did you vote for Bob last year, or do you hug your guns in fear?

Where is this Bob of which you speak, is he on a mountain at its peak?

Is he at door, giving alms to the filthy undeserving worthless poor?

Who is Bob, that you post all day about at your job,

that give no insurance for your wife to carry, why did she pick you to marry.

Should you be doing work, you over paid and useless jerk?
2013-09-25 09:29:05 AM  
3 votes:
Someone pointed out that whomever holds the copyright for Green Eggs and Ham could go after him for an unauthorized "Public Performance".
2013-09-25 08:47:02 AM  
3 votes:

kronicfeld: "Filibustering" a bill that became law forty-two months ago should really go a long way to combat the perception that Republicans are a bunch of purposeless obstructionists living in the past.


Not to the true believers. They still think they can get rid of obamacare by legislative fiat. Like I said...most republicans these days are kind of dumb.
2013-09-25 08:27:33 AM  
3 votes:

Weaver95: WI241TH: So he's saying once Americans try it, they'll love Obamacare?

Maybe a more apt comparison than he intended...

I'm sure that wasn't his intent but I don't credit the GOP with a lot of intelligence. It would be right up their alley to completely misunderstand the message of a dr. Seuss story.


You'd have to be pretty damn dense to forget the last 2 pages of the book just a couple of minutes after you finished reading it.

Maybe we need to define the "Cruz" as a unit of stupidity. Most people would be measured in milliCruzes.
"She was dumb. About 200 mC".
2013-09-25 08:15:41 AM  
3 votes:
The junior senator from Texas also negotiated the terms of his speech with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) in advance, on Monday.

Reid: So you're going to talk for hours on end?
Cruz: Yes.
Reid: About why you think Obamacare is bad?
Cruz: No, I'm gonna read Dr. Seuss.
Reid: One second, I'm getting a text message from the President. He's got some advice for you.
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2013-09-25 11:45:09 AM  
2 votes:

James!: He'll have to stop talking in a half hour when the Senate reconvenes.


So this whole stunt is essentially the equivalent of me asking my boss if I can sit behind his desk and make important decisions as long as the shop is closed and I have to scram when he comes back in the morning.

Brilliant. Conservatives have decided to run their own separate Congress where they get to win because NO DEMOCRATS ALLOWED. We should charge them for renting out the Capitol.
2013-09-25 11:43:33 AM  
2 votes:

I_C_Weener: Barack OBama. Its a version of shortening a name...for numerous reasons. Like using W instead of President George W. Bush.


Exactly. The use of 'W' by President George W Bush and his campaign staff on officially licensed products to distinguish himself from the similarly named President George H W Bush is identical to some guy on the internet picking some letters to make up a new name for no reason and using it extensively to try to create a meme. Er, I meant numerous reasons, not 'no reason'. Some of the many reasons to make up the new name include: [**remember to put reasons here before commenting**]. I mean, just look at all those reasons.

I_C_Weener: BO makes sense. So does BOB. People complaining about this in a world where "text speak" is acceptable need to get over it. Of course some of those complaining think Obamacare is a bad word and complained when Mr. Obama was elected if people didn't post with a full President Barack Obama.


Again, I agree. BOB makes perfect sense as it fulfills the important role of keeping discussion on the topic of nicknames for the president instead of whatever the article happens to be about. I mean I guess what I'm trying to say is that the most important thing to remember here is "both sides are bad", even when you're facetiously comparing two names made up by the same 'side' to justify what many people are (unjustly, obviously) calling blatant threadjacking.
2013-09-25 11:16:05 AM  
2 votes:
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player, that struts and frets his hour upon the stage, and then is heard no more; it is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.


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2013-09-25 10:42:06 AM  
2 votes:

HotWingConspiracy: unexplained bacon: The Homer Tax: Still pretend filibustering his own party's bill?

Fun.

it apparently worked...DIA seemed pretty impressed.
Why? I have no idea (speak up DIA), but somehow this got Cruz points with the infromed crowd.

He did explain it, though the rationale only works if you actually believe the crap Cruz is spewing about the ACA.


he can try to twist that around but the obvious allegory here I think would be more like:

ACA = green eggs and ham
Cruz = the kid who wont try the ACA
Obama = the guy assuring him it's actually a good thing

as we all know, in the story Obama is right and Cruz ends up face down in his ham.

How do these line up in his explanation anyway?
some awful convoluted mash up that requires a suspension of brain activity?
2013-09-25 10:33:54 AM  
2 votes:

Weaver95: Karac: Aristocles: So? We're being held hostage by BOB and the dems. over 50% of Americans don't want Obamacare while about 42% support it. That's a minority controlling the majority, I seem to remember Farklibs warning about the dangers of this.

Please.  BOB, whoever he is, and the rest of the voices in your head certainly add up to a majority.

I think the GOP is afraid that once the ACA kicks in and actually starts working then voters will wonder what the fuss was all about.

I still don't understand why the republicans are so afraid of health care reform.


For the GOP, it's not health care reform itself, although lots of big money is pushing this. It's just that this is their BIG ISSUE of the moment. Once ACA in place and people realize that it really is better, they'll immediately move on to something else and hope their base doesn't remember all the awful things they said were going to happen.

Similarly, if Obama built the Keystone Pipeline and the oil started flowing today, everybody would see that it didn't create 200,000 permanent high paying jobs and didn't balance the Federal Budget in one day after all. They'd quietly slink away and remove as many references to their hyperbole as possible before starting some new rant against the Libruls.
2013-09-25 10:31:31 AM  
2 votes:

I_C_Weener: GTATL: Wow, well i think i've figured out why you're a republican. Bless your heart. I'm sure that no one asking that actually knew what he meant by BOB.

I'm just amused by the people on both sides making it a thing.  Its like watching my kids argue over who is touching whom, then doing it to each other and then tattling on them.

A bit of an allegory about life really.  Keep up the good work.


No, this is more like one kid sticking pennies up his nose, and another kid saying "why are you doing that? That's stupid."
2013-09-25 10:20:25 AM  
2 votes:
a3.img.talkingpointsmemo.com
2013-09-25 10:12:36 AM  
2 votes:
Aristocles:

So? We're being held hostage by BOB and the dems. over 50% of Americans don't want Obamacare while about 42% support it. That's a minority controlling the majority, I seem to remember Farklibs warning about the dangers of this.

So Cruz is also fighting for a gun registration, higher taxes on the wealthy and  other things that over 50% of Americans want?
2013-09-25 09:40:38 AM  
2 votes:

Dancin_In_Anson: How many of you championed Wendy Davis?


Well, lets compare them.

Wendy Davis talked for hours, on topic, in order to prevent a vote and defeat a bill which she fundamentally disagreed with.
Ted Cruz talked for hours, completely off topic at times, in order to show his ass on TV because they had already scheduled a vote for the next day and weren't waiting on his to shut up, in order to defeat a bill which would fund everything but Obamacare, a position he supposedly champions.

Tell me this: say Ted Cruz was filibustering.  Say he was able to prevent the House's bill which defunds Obamacare from going forward in the Senate.  How could doing that possibly do anything other than cause a government shutdown?
2013-09-25 09:30:22 AM  
2 votes:

Eddie Adams from Torrance: Next, he's going to read The Lorax when railing against the EPA


The Butter Battle Book during his filibuster against defense cuts
2013-09-25 09:29:15 AM  
2 votes:
Next, he's going to read The Lorax when railing against the EPA
2013-09-25 09:22:09 AM  
2 votes:

Aristocles: Ted Cruz is a modern day Abolitionist. He and a handful of other freedom loving Patriots are fighting tooth and nail to Abolish Obamacare.


Aristocles, you need to go.

Teds little stand up routine here doesn't actually accomplish anything, it isn't even a real filibuster for christs sake.

Most of American has already decided to try the Green Eggs and Ham provided by the ACA.

In fact, we voted on it... twice on a national level.

The GoP has failed to do anything about it, 42 times now.

42 times...

failed.
2013-09-25 09:17:30 AM  
2 votes:

IdBeCrazyIf: Does anyone else get the delicious irony of him reading Green Eggs and Ham in an attempt to delay something that no one has had a chance yet to try?


In fact, from the article:  "'Green Eggs and Ham' has some applicability, as curious as it may sound, to the Obamcare debate," Cruz said after he finished, to a few audible chuckles from the Senate gallery.

Isn't that what the Republicans are afraid of? That Americans will really like it once they are forced to try it?
2013-09-25 09:17:15 AM  
2 votes:

Dancin_In_Anson: How many of you championed Wendy Davis?


Yeah, 'cos a woman's right to choose what she does with her own body is exactly like health insurance companies' right to price-gouge without interference from pesky rules and laws.
I guess both sides ARE the same.
2013-09-25 09:14:44 AM  
2 votes:

Dancin_In_Anson: How many of you championed Wendy Davis?


that was an actual filibuster. this is pure political theater.
2013-09-25 09:14:15 AM  
2 votes:

Dancin_In_Anson: How many of you championed Wendy Davis?


you understand this isn't an actual filibuster, right? All he's doing is delaying a procedural vote that is going to happen regardless. Wendy Davis' filibuster delayed the bill from getting voted on until the special session ran out of time. There is no time limit here, it's going to happen and his blathering does nothing to stop it.

/on a related note, he's moved on to talking Star Wars now
//complete with Darth Vader noises
///no light saber "whooshing" though
2013-09-25 08:41:58 AM  
2 votes:
Why is a Canadian so upset over progressive health care?
2013-09-25 08:37:35 AM  
2 votes:
WE GET IT. YOU'RE RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT.
2013-09-25 08:32:48 AM  
2 votes:

MrBallou: Weaver95: WI241TH: So he's saying once Americans try it, they'll love Obamacare?

Maybe a more apt comparison than he intended...

I'm sure that wasn't his intent but I don't credit the GOP with a lot of intelligence. It would be right up their alley to completely misunderstand the message of a dr. Seuss story.

You'd have to be pretty damn dense to forget the last 2 pages of the book just a couple of minutes after you finished reading it.

Maybe we need to define the "Cruz" as a unit of stupidity. Most people would be measured in milliCruzes.
"She was dumb. About 200 mC".


I wouldn't put it past Cruz to deliberately misinterpret dr. Seuss tho.
2013-09-25 08:07:22 AM  
2 votes:

WI241TH: So he's saying once Americans try it, they'll love Obamacare?

Maybe a more apt comparison than he intended...


I'm sure that wasn't his intent but I don't credit the GOP with a lot of intelligence. It would be right up their alley to completely misunderstand the message of a dr. Seuss story.
2013-09-25 03:27:10 PM  
1 votes:

Dancin_In_Anson: Most disconcerting of course is last week's huge accommodation for the employer community-extending the statutorily mandated "December 31, 2013" deadline for the employer mandate and penalties.


So, they want to delay the entire thing and delaying part of it is 'most disconcerting'? When "You can do A or B. If you do A, that's really bad. If you do B, that's really bad, too." is your political strategy, we can safely dismiss you as a complete crackpot.
2013-09-25 02:32:26 PM  
1 votes:

Dancin_In_Anson: HotWingConspiracy: Obama already explained to the unions that they cannot have what they want

Let's remind ourselves what that was...

Dancin_In_Anson: the very health and wellbeing of our members along with millions of other hardworking Americans.


Well that was how they framed it. Do you know how the world works? Do you understand why one would use certain language to convey thoughts when trying to persuade another?

I know you're just bitter, but don't let that break you down in to being a blithering idiot.
2013-09-25 01:41:46 PM  
1 votes:

HotWingConspiracy: Oh that? Yeah Obama already explained to the unions that they cannot have what they want.


What a socialist anti-capitalist.

We should have seen this coming - a big reason for the unions was that American factory workers didn't have the same benefits as workers in other countries, never mind the fact that many of those benefits (health care, retirement, sick pay) were provided by the government in other countries. We didn't want to be "communist" over here so we demanded the employers provide it rather than the government.

With healthcare no longer tied to employment, unions will lose a major bargaining chip. Which isn't necessarily bad; most of the jobs with unions right now are doing pretty well; we need unions at Wal-Mart and other retailers more than we need truckers and car factory unions at the moment.
2013-09-25 01:34:08 PM  
1 votes:

HotWingConspiracy: Dancin_In_Anson: HotWingConspiracy: Tell us what gems we missed

This is what he read:
[...]

Oh that? Yeah Obama already explained to the unions that they cannot have what they want.


Did he at least also explain that, if they try sometimes, they can get what they need?
2013-09-25 01:15:48 PM  
1 votes:

Dancin_In_Anson: HotWingConspiracy: Tell us what gems we missed

This is what he read:

Dear Leader Reid and Leader Pelosi:
When you and the President sought our support for the Affordable Care Act (ACA), you pledged that if we liked the health plans we have now, we could keep them. Sadly, that promise is under threat. Right now, unless you and the Obama Administration enact an equitable fix, the ACA will shatter not only our hard-earned health benefits, but destroy the foundation of the 40 hour work week that is the backbone of the American middle class.
Like millions of other Americans, our members are front-line workers in the American economy. We have been strong supporters of the notion that all Americans should have access to quality, affordable health care. We have also been strong supporters of you. In campaign after campaign we have put boots on the ground, gone door-to-door to get out the vote, run phone banks and raised money to secure this vision.
Now this vision has come back to haunt us.
Since the ACA was enacted, we have been bringing our deep concerns to the Administration, seeking reasonable regulatory interpretations to the statute that would help prevent the destruction of non-profit health plans. As you both know first-hand, our persuasive arguments have been disregarded and met with a stone wall by the White House and the pertinent agencies. This is especially stinging because other stakeholders have repeatedly received successful interpretations for their respective grievances. Most disconcerting of course is last week's huge accommodation for the employer community-extending the statutorily mandated "December 31, 2013" deadline for the employer mandate and penalties.
Time is running out: Congress wrote this law; we voted for you. We have a problem; you need to fix it. The unintended consequences of the ACA are severe. Perverse incentives are already creating nightmare scenarios:
First, the law creates an incentive for employers to keep employees' work hours be ...


Oh that? Yeah Obama already explained to the unions that they cannot have what they want.
2013-09-25 01:00:21 PM  
1 votes:

MmmCrime: Lol, Chucky S from NY is mentioning the green eggs and ham discussion. Well played.


so Ted's biggest accomplishments from this little piece of theater have been

1) impressing the morbidly infromed
2) creating a situation in which the dems have to explain a children's story to him.
2013-09-25 12:54:19 PM  
1 votes:
Haha. Chuck Schumer calling out Cruz for reading Green Eggs & Ham, where the moral is 'try it, you might like it'.
2013-09-25 12:45:52 PM  
1 votes:

Dancin_In_Anson: This is what he read:


lol
he's pretty worried about the unions huh?

They don't seem to like the minimum requirements for coverage (crap plans).  Too bad, this can't work otherwise.
Without that people would just attempt to get around required coverage with empty plans that are mainly just for show, right?
2013-09-25 11:49:07 AM  
1 votes:
Am I alone in believing that Senator Cruz resembles a wigless drag queen?
2013-09-25 11:13:14 AM  
1 votes:

SlothB77: We don't know what is in the bill.


This is still a thing?
2013-09-25 11:12:42 AM  
1 votes:
Let's point out another ironic thing thing: he is filibustering the bill that DEFUNDS Obamacare. The bill he demanded the house to pass.
2013-09-25 11:11:08 AM  
1 votes:
Sometimes I wonder if the GOP ever stops to consider the inherent contradictions in their ideology and policy positions.
2013-09-25 11:08:00 AM  
1 votes:

SlothB77: Rapmaster2000: It's really a perfect choice.

Sam:  "I've never had green eggs and ham, but I know I don't like them".
Cruz:  "I've never had Obamacare, but I know I don't like it."

We don't know what is in the bill.  The right thing to do is to pass it and burden the people with it.

By the way people, no matter how many times you repeat it on the internet, being against Obamacare is not the same as wanting poor people to die.


So what you're saying is, if they'd rather die than pull themselves up by their bootstraps, then they had better do it and decrease the surplus population.
2013-09-25 11:04:11 AM  
1 votes:

SlothB77: Rapmaster2000: It's really a perfect choice.

Sam:  "I've never had green eggs and ham, but I know I don't like them".
Cruz:  "I've never had Obamacare, but I know I don't like it."

We don't know what is in the bill.


What's this "we" business? If you don't know now it's because you don't want to.

By the way people, no matter how many times you repeat it on the internet, being against Obamacare is not the same as wanting poor people to die.

Well when the only alternative you can offer is "lets go back to when poor people couldn't access health insurance and would frequently die from easily curable conditions", the optics get difficult to manage.
2013-09-25 10:47:22 AM  
1 votes:

Thrag: It seems that a fake filibuster is going to be a new right of passage for GOP congresspeople with presidential ambitions. Who will be next to hold a fake filibuster?


The GOP loves big, showy guestures that don't actually accomplish anything but really "look" like they do.

Like building a wall to solve the illegal immigration problem
2013-09-25 10:43:40 AM  
1 votes:

I_C_Weener: ManateeGag: I_C_Weener: Like using W instead of President George W. Bush.

But W made sense.  since it was his middle initial and we had another George Bush as president.

BO makes sense.  So does BOB.  People complaining about this in a world where "text speak" is acceptable need to get over it.  Of course some of those complaining think Obamacare is a bad word and complained when Mr. Obama was elected if people didn't post with a full President Barack Obama.  It was somehow offensive to shorten it to Obama.

Its a silly little fight between two Fark factions over...pretty much "stop touching me".


Again, I understand why you are a republican. You don't understand the point in the question at all. Period. Do not pass go. It's not about disrespect or text speak. Try again.

Can you really not guess the reason behind asking a troll a question?
2013-09-25 10:42:47 AM  
1 votes:
i1.cpcache.com
2013-09-25 10:34:47 AM  
1 votes:
You do not like Obamacare.
SO you say.
Try it! Try it!
And you may.
Try it and you may I say.

Obama!
If you will let me be,
I will try it.
You will see.

Say!
I like Obamacare!
I do!! I like them, Obama
And I will have health care in a boat!
And I will have health care with a goat...
And I will have health care in the rain.
And in the dark. And on a train.
And in a car. And in a tree.
It's so good so good you see!

So I will have health care in a box.
And I will have health care with a fox.
And I will have health care in a house.
And I will have health care with a mouse.
And I will have health care here and there.
Say! I will have health care ANYWHERE!

I do so like
Obamacare
Thank you!
Thank you,
Obama

I do so like
Obamacare!
Thank you!
Thank you,
Obama
2013-09-25 10:31:56 AM  
1 votes:

The Homer Tax: Still pretend filibustering his own party's bill?

Fun.


it apparently worked...DIA seemed pretty impressed.
Why? I have no idea (speak up DIA), but somehow this got Cruz points with the infromed crowd.
2013-09-25 10:27:54 AM  
1 votes:
Still pretend filibustering his own party's bill?

Fun.
2013-09-25 10:27:50 AM  
1 votes:

I_C_Weener: GTATL: I_C_Weener: GTATL: Wow, well i think i've figured out why you're a republican. Bless your heart. I'm sure that no one asking that actually knew what he meant by BOB.

I'm just amused by the people on both sides making it a thing.  Its like watching my kids argue over who is touching whom, then doing it to each other and then tattling on them.

A bit of an allegory about life really.  Keep up the good work.

Aw, bless your heart. You still haven't figured it out. Not that i expected you to understand most of the intelligent posters' purpose in asking that question.

ok.


Your first smart post. Please try to explain other farkers' motivations again, it's quite insightful.

For the record: Ted Cruz is the definition of an attention whore. His entire purpose has nothing to do with opposing to Obamacare. He just wants to shore up the primary base with something they think matters.

Ladies and gentlemen, the republican party, AKA "the easiest to pander to" party.

Also, there's no way he's not genuine in everything he says, hes not from some ivy league elitist school.
2013-09-25 10:27:48 AM  
1 votes:

I_C_Weener: Like using W instead of President George W. Bush.


But W made sense.  since it was his middle initial and we had another George Bush as president.
2013-09-25 10:27:26 AM  
1 votes:

Prank Call of Cthulhu: Weaver95: Prank Call of Cthulhu: Dancin_In_Anson: He's reading something else now. Don't listen.

The Necronomicon? The Pnakotic Manuscripts? The King in Yellow?

The king in yellow was a good read, dammit!

I did not care for Act II. It really drove me crazy.


I dunno. I laughed and laughed and laughed....
2013-09-25 10:25:45 AM  
1 votes:
So it sounds like the GOP needs to use some...
(•_•)
( •_•)>⌐■-■
(⌐■_■)
Cruze control.

/YEEEEAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!
2013-09-25 10:22:27 AM  
1 votes:

InmanRoshi: Aristocles:

So? We're being held hostage by BOB and the dems. over 50% of Americans don't want Obamacare while about 42% support it. That's a minority controlling the majority, I seem to remember Farklibs warning about the dangers of this.

So Cruz is also fighting for a gun registration, higher taxes on the wealthy and  other things that over 50% of Americans want?


Yeah but those aren't real Americans that want those things.

Study it out.
2013-09-25 10:18:03 AM  
1 votes:

Weaver95: Prank Call of Cthulhu: Dancin_In_Anson: He's reading something else now. Don't listen.

The Necronomicon? The Pnakotic Manuscripts? The King in Yellow?

The king in yellow was a good read, dammit!


I did not care for Act II. It really drove me crazy.
2013-09-25 10:17:39 AM  
1 votes:

ManateeGag: Aristocles: So? We're being held hostage by BOB and the dems. over 50% of Americans don't want Obamacare while about 42% support it. That's a minority controlling the majority, I seem to remember Farklibs warning about the dangers of this.

BOB is not a thing

Farklibs is not a thing

please, for the love of Jebus, come up with some new material.


If he starts thinking up new material then he can't be a republican anymore.
2013-09-25 10:16:25 AM  
1 votes:
Cruz just seems petty and to be grandstanding, he can't stop the ACA...it's a done deal. The GOP is going to have to accept that Obama won this fight.
2013-09-25 10:16:15 AM  
1 votes:

I_C_Weener: GTATL: Wow, well i think i've figured out why you're a republican. Bless your heart. I'm sure that no one asking that actually knew what he meant by BOB.

I'm just amused by the people on both sides making it a thing.  Its like watching my kids argue over who is touching whom, then doing it to each other and then tattling on them.

A bit of an allegory about life really.  Keep up the good work.


Aw, bless your heart. You still haven't figured it out. Not that i expected you to understand most of the intelligent posters' purpose in asking that question.
2013-09-25 10:14:51 AM  
1 votes:

Dancin_In_Anson: He's reading something else now. Don't listen.


Is he reading the Congressional Record, starting at a point one hour in the past, with the hope that he will create an infinite recursion that will crash the entire Federal Government?
2013-09-25 10:12:38 AM  
1 votes:

Prank Call of Cthulhu: Dancin_In_Anson: He's reading something else now. Don't listen.

The Necronomicon? The Pnakotic Manuscripts? The King in Yellow?


The king in yellow was a good read, dammit!
2013-09-25 10:11:58 AM  
1 votes:

I_C_Weener: Weaver95: Aristocles: Heliovdrake: Aristocles: Ted Cruz is a modern day Abolitionist. He and a handful of other freedom loving Patriots are fighting tooth and nail to Abolish Obamacare.

Aristocles, you need to go.

Teds little stand up routine here doesn't actually accomplish anything, it isn't even a real filibuster for christs sake.

Most of American has already decided to try the Green Eggs and Ham provided by the ACA.

In fact, we voted on it... twice on a national level.

The GoP has failed to do anything about it, 42 times now.

42 times...

failed.

So? We're being held hostage by BOB and the dems. over 50% of Americans don't want Obamacare while about 42% support it. That's a minority controlling the majority, I seem to remember Farklibs warning about the dangers of this.

Who is this bob person you keep talking about?

Barack OBama.  Its a version of shortening a name...for numerous reasons.  Like using W instead of President George W. Bush.  Some people think its funny and annoying.  Others think its annoying.  But both sides seem desperate to make it happen.


So, you're saying "Bob is not a meme" is a meme?
2013-09-25 10:11:50 AM  
1 votes:

Karac: Aristocles: So? We're being held hostage by BOB and the dems. over 50% of Americans don't want Obamacare while about 42% support it. That's a minority controlling the majority, I seem to remember Farklibs warning about the dangers of this.

Please.  BOB, whoever he is, and the rest of the voices in your head certainly add up to a majority.


I think the GOP is afraid that once the ACA kicks in and actually starts working then voters will wonder what the fuss was all about.

I still don't understand why the republicans are so afraid of health care reform.
2013-09-25 10:10:59 AM  
1 votes:

Dancin_In_Anson: He's reading something else now. Don't listen.


the boy who cried wolf?
yes, yes...let's all plug our ears for fear of being enlightened yet again.

did you ever figure out what the point of him reading green eggs and ham was?

did you ever let it sink in that he clearly either intentionally derailed his own cause or completely misunderstood a children's story?
seriously...get it?
2013-09-25 10:10:47 AM  
1 votes:

I_C_Weener: Weaver95: Aristocles: Heliovdrake: Aristocles: Ted Cruz is a modern day Abolitionist. He and a handful of other freedom loving Patriots are fighting tooth and nail to Abolish Obamacare.

Aristocles, you need to go.

Teds little stand up routine here doesn't actually accomplish anything, it isn't even a real filibuster for christs sake.

Most of American has already decided to try the Green Eggs and Ham provided by the ACA.

In fact, we voted on it... twice on a national level.

The GoP has failed to do anything about it, 42 times now.

42 times...

failed.

So? We're being held hostage by BOB and the dems. over 50% of Americans don't want Obamacare while about 42% support it. That's a minority controlling the majority, I seem to remember Farklibs warning about the dangers of this.

Who is this bob person you keep talking about?

Barack OBama.  Its a version of shortening a name...for numerous reasons.  Like using W instead of President George W. Bush.  Some people think its funny and annoying.  Others think its annoying.  But both sides seem desperate to make it happen.


Wow, well i think i've figured out why you're a republican. Bless your heart. I'm sure that no one asking that actually knew what he meant by BOB.
2013-09-25 10:09:48 AM  
1 votes:

Dancin_In_Anson: He's reading something else now. Don't listen.


The Necronomicon? The Pnakotic Manuscripts? The King in Yellow?
2013-09-25 10:09:30 AM  
1 votes:

Aristocles: So? We're being held hostage by BOB and the dems. over 50% of Americans don't want Obamacare while about 42% support it. That's a minority controlling the majority, I seem to remember Farklibs warning about the dangers of this.


Please.  BOB, whoever he is, and the rest of the voices in your head certainly add up to a majority.
2013-09-25 10:01:39 AM  
1 votes:

Aristocles: Heliovdrake: Aristocles: Ted Cruz is a modern day Abolitionist. He and a handful of other freedom loving Patriots are fighting tooth and nail to Abolish Obamacare.

Aristocles, you need to go.

Teds little stand up routine here doesn't actually accomplish anything, it isn't even a real filibuster for christs sake.

Most of American has already decided to try the Green Eggs and Ham provided by the ACA.

In fact, we voted on it... twice on a national level.

The GoP has failed to do anything about it, 42 times now.

42 times...

failed.

So? We're being held hostage by BOB and the dems. over 50% of Americans don't want Obamacare while about 42% support it. That's a minority controlling the majority, I seem to remember Farklibs warning about the dangers of this.


Who is this bob person you keep talking about?
2013-09-25 09:45:49 AM  
1 votes:
Heliovdrake:

Who is Bob?

Do you know this Bob of which you speak, or are you just a sneak.

Did you vote for Bob last year, or do you hug your guns in fear?

Where is this Bob of which you speak, is he on a mountain at its peak?

Is he at door, giving alms to the filthy undeserving worthless poor?

Who is Bob, that you post all day about at your job,

that give no insurance for your wife to carry, why did she pick you to marry.

Should you be doing work, you over paid and useless jerk?


*applause*


this is really nice!
2013-09-25 09:36:35 AM  
1 votes:

unexplained bacon: The Rs seem afraid that ACA will be well liked in general, but they should probably be worried about the fallout if their base in the red states figures out just how much their state level GOPers screwed them out of benefiting from it.

I know the echo chamber is sealed up pretty tight these days, but if it turns out that the rates in red states that refused to work with the Feds on the ACA are undeniably, unskewably higher than rates in state that didn't cut off their nose to spite their face that's going to be hard to blame on Obama....well, it should be.


I am really, really hoping that's how it plays out, and it looks like there's a good chance it will work that way.
2013-09-25 09:34:30 AM  
1 votes:

SlothB77: unexplained bacon: Dancin_In_Anson: 17 hours. Wow! Good on him!

As someone who apparently supports this, can you tell me what point you think Cruz is attempting to make by reading that particular Dr.Seuss story? Am I missing some RW angle on this?

just random?
or hilariously unintentionally entertaining the Dem?

First, he wasn't making a point.  He was just filling time.  That is all he is doing.  If he needs to read the phone book to fill time, he will.

He was actually reading the book to his kids.  He told them to turn him on at 8pm and he was reading bedtime stories to his daughters.


thanks fella...so option #2 then.

do you think he understood the point of the story?
lol
2013-09-25 09:33:31 AM  
1 votes:

Jackson Herring: all causes are exactly equal

if you libs cheered on wendy davis you should cheer on anyone who filibusters anything for any reason

like strom thurmond


You don't troll often but when you do you troll hard. Bravo. You are a sparking eagle away from a perfect 10/10.

jntaylor63: Behold Republican Farkers, here is you party's Presidential Nominee!


bwcentral.org
Indeed
2013-09-25 09:27:04 AM  
1 votes:

Dancin_In_Anson: 17 hours. Wow! Good on him!


As someone who apparently supports this, can you tell me what point you think Cruz is attempting to make by reading that particular Dr.Seuss story? Am I missing some RW angle on this?

just random?
or hilariously unintentionally entertaining the Dem?
2013-09-25 09:25:12 AM  
1 votes:

Dancin_In_Anson: 17 hours. Wow! Good on him!


Good on him for what?  Make a pointless, fruitless, grandstanding attempt to do ... what is it again?

Hey, I have an idea - maybe he could have used that time to actually READ THE FARKING BILL on the floor of the senate. No, he resorted to lies and hyperbole and, get this , childrens books.

Laugh Out Motherfarking Loud.
2013-09-25 09:23:20 AM  
1 votes:

Dancin_In_Anson: 17 hours. Wow! Good on him!


But what has he accomplished? What would have been different if he'd been playing World of Warcraft for the past 17 hours instead?
2013-09-25 09:21:39 AM  
1 votes:

Dancin_In_Anson: How many of you championed Wendy Davis?


Did Wendy Davis pre-plan her speech with the opposition? Was Wendy Davis allowed to speak as long as she wanted? Was Wendy Davis able to grant time to her colleagues and then resume speaking?
Did Ted Cruz spend all of his time discussing the bill itself? Was Ted Cruz's speech ended by a massive willful misinterpretation of what words mean? Was Ted Cruz actually delaying a vote with his actions? Did Ted Cruz actually stop the bill he was protesting from being passed at the time? Did Democrats break their own rules to try to nullify Ted Cruz's speech?

I gotta say, man, other than the fact that they were each politicians in Texas who spoke for a while (remember, Cruz did not filibuster, because that's a word that has an actual meaning), I can't really see what else these things have in common.
2013-09-25 09:20:20 AM  
1 votes:
Two hundred thirty seven years.  Eh, it was a pretty good run.
2013-09-25 09:18:28 AM  
1 votes:

Weaver95: WI241TH: So he's saying once Americans try it, they'll love Obamacare?

Maybe a more apt comparison than he intended...

I'm sure that wasn't his intent but I don't credit the GOP with a lot of intelligence. It would be right up their alley to completely misunderstand the message of a dr. Seuss story.


THIS!

/in the end he loves it
//love the GOP derp
2013-09-25 09:18:10 AM  
1 votes:
God, the stuff that I would read if I was filibustering.
2013-09-25 09:18:08 AM  
1 votes:

FlashHarry: Dancin_In_Anson: How many of you championed Wendy Davis?

that was an actual filibuster. this is pure political theater.


At least he's standing up and talking, rather than these bullshiat "paper filibusters" we've been getting so much for the last couple of years.

/still derpy and pointless though.
2013-09-25 09:17:15 AM  
1 votes:

Dancin_In_Anson: How many of you championed Wendy Davis?


Do you understand the difference between what Wendy did, and what Tom is doing..


Show your work.
2013-09-25 09:15:23 AM  
1 votes:
Does anyone else get the delicious irony of him reading Green Eggs and Ham in an attempt to delay something that no one has had a chance yet to try?
2013-09-25 08:43:34 AM  
1 votes:

somedude210: Technically, it's not a filibuster. It's a "talk to delay the inevitable procedural vote because I'm an attention whore" type thing


Yes, that is why I used quotation marks to indicate that the term is being used imprecisely.
2013-09-25 08:42:50 AM  
1 votes:

kronicfeld: "Filibustering" a bill that became law forty-two months ago should really go a long way to combat the perception that Republicans are a bunch of purposeless obstructionists living in the past.


Technically, it's not a filibuster. It's a "talk to delay the inevitable procedural vote because I'm an attention whore" type thing
2013-09-25 08:03:49 AM  
1 votes:

Dancin_In_Anson: somedude210: Well Dr. Seuss is a bit tough for him to read, so I guess 17 hours is faster than most would expect him to finish it.

That's the best you've got eh?


I dunno, that was pretty good.
2013-09-25 07:42:28 AM  
1 votes:

somedude210: Well Dr. Seuss is a bit tough for him to read, so I guess 17 hours is faster than most would expect him to finish it.


That's the best you've got eh?
2013-09-25 07:37:30 AM  
1 votes:

Dancin_In_Anson: 17 hours. Wow! Good on him!


Well Dr. Seuss is a bit tough for him to read, so I guess 17 hours is faster than most would expect him to finish it.
 
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