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2013-09-25 09:25:33 AM

MattStafford: God, the stuff that I would read if I was filibustering.


I fully intend to submit a fark thread about it beforehand and just do a dramatic reading of the thread, violating decency laws, be damned
 
2013-09-25 09:26:25 AM
theplazz.com
 
2013-09-25 09:26:46 AM

Dancin_In_Anson: How many of you championed Wendy Davis?


She was required to stay on-topic.
 
2013-09-25 09:26:54 AM

Genevieve Marie: Dancin_In_Anson: How many of you championed Wendy Davis?

You mean the woman that performed a real filibuster, with a real point, to actually block harmful legislation?

Yea, there's a massive difference between what she did and what this dude is doing.


Not only that, but had to stay on the topic of the actual bill.  There's no way she could stand up there and read "Green Eggs and Ham"
 
2013-09-25 09:27:04 AM

Dancin_In_Anson: 17 hours. Wow! Good on him!


As someone who apparently supports this, can you tell me what point you think Cruz is attempting to make by reading that particular Dr.Seuss story? Am I missing some RW angle on this?

just random?
or hilariously unintentionally entertaining the Dem?
 
2013-09-25 09:27:27 AM
fauxlibuster

I wish I could take credit for that
 
2013-09-25 09:27:54 AM

Weaver95: kronicfeld: "Filibustering" a bill that became law forty-two months ago should really go a long way to combat the perception that Republicans are a bunch of purposeless obstructionists living in the past.

Not to the true believers. They still think they can get rid of obamacare by legislative fiat. Like I said...most republicans these days are kind of dumb.


No, even the freepers understand it is a lost cause. As usual they have found a way to admire him for it.

TOFTT
"When was the last time we saw a poltician take a principled stand for something he knew was right? Cruz isn't going to win this one. I think he's known that for some time. But instead of going along to get along he is not compromising his core beliefs in the slightest. He is going to go down fighting regardless of who it pisses off because he firmly believes it's in the best interests of the country to oppose Obamacare. How many Congresscritters will place country over career in that fashion? Damned few. "
 
2013-09-25 09:28:06 AM

unexplained bacon: or hilariously unintentionally entertaining the Dem?


Anything that disrupts the government is good in his eyes.
 
2013-09-25 09:29:05 AM
Someone pointed out that whomever holds the copyright for Green Eggs and Ham could go after him for an unauthorized "Public Performance".
 
2013-09-25 09:29:09 AM

unexplained bacon: Dancin_In_Anson: 17 hours. Wow! Good on him!

As someone who apparently supports this, can you tell me what point you think Cruz is attempting to make by reading that particular Dr.Seuss story? Am I missing some RW angle on this?

just random?
or hilariously unintentionally entertaining the Dem?


First, he wasn't making a point.  He was just filling time.  That is all he is doing.  If he needs to read the phone book to fill time, he will.

He was actually reading the book to his kids.  He told them to turn him on at 8pm and he was reading bedtime stories to his daughters.
 
2013-09-25 09:29:15 AM
Next, he's going to read The Lorax when railing against the EPA
 
2013-09-25 09:30:01 AM

HMS_Blinkin: Also, if I were filibustering, I would post a thread on /b/ saying "DUBS TELLS ME WHAT TO SAY ON THE SENATE FLOOR."  The lulz would be epic.


I would do a StopArrestingMe style hidden word search.  Maybe Star Trek episode names?
 
2013-09-25 09:30:20 AM
I hope this man is nominated to run against Hillary.
 
2013-09-25 09:30:22 AM

RminusQ: The junior senator from Texas also negotiated the terms of his speech with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) in advance, on Monday.

Reid: So you're going to talk for hours on end?
Cruz: Yes.
Reid: About why you think Obamacare is bad?
Cruz: No, I'm gonna read Dr. Seuss.
Reid: One second, I'm getting a text message from the President. He's got some advice for you.
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Ha! Yeah, I noted that in TFA too, so it was a pre-arranged instance of attention whoring/stroking the base... and Republicans say Democrats aren't team players.
 
2013-09-25 09:30:22 AM

Eddie Adams from Torrance: Next, he's going to read The Lorax when railing against the EPA


The Butter Battle Book during his filibuster against defense cuts
 
2013-09-25 09:31:19 AM

Jackson Herring: all causes are exactly equal

if you libs cheered on wendy davis you should cheer on anyone who filibusters anything for any reason

like strom thurmond


I'm pretty surprised there isn't an obese dog pic to really drive this point home.
 
2013-09-25 09:31:59 AM

jntaylor63: Behold Republican Farkers, here is you party's Presidential Nominee!


bwcentral.org
Indeed
 
2013-09-25 09:32:56 AM

PanicMan: HMS_Blinkin: Also, if I were filibustering, I would post a thread on /b/ saying "DUBS TELLS ME WHAT TO SAY ON THE SENATE FLOOR."  The lulz would be epic.

I would do a StopArrestingMe style hidden word search.  Maybe Star Trek episode names?


Oooh, that'd be good too.
 
2013-09-25 09:33:23 AM
The Rs seem afraid that ACA will be well liked in general, but they should probably be worried about the fallout if their base in the red states figures out just how much their state level GOPers screwed them out of benefiting from it.

I know the echo chamber is sealed up pretty tight these days, but if it turns out that the rates in red states that refused to work with the Feds on the ACA are undeniably, unskewably higher than rates in state that didn't cut off their nose to spite their face that's going to be hard to blame on Obama....well, it should be.
 
2013-09-25 09:33:24 AM
Americans "did not like green eggs and ham, and they did not like Obamacare either," he added. "They did not like Obamacare in a box, with a fox, in a house, with a mouse."


he actually said this shiat

HE ACTUALLY farkING SAID IT
 
2013-09-25 09:33:31 AM

Jackson Herring: all causes are exactly equal

if you libs cheered on wendy davis you should cheer on anyone who filibusters anything for any reason

like strom thurmond


You don't troll often but when you do you troll hard. Bravo. You are a sparking eagle away from a perfect 10/10.

jntaylor63: Behold Republican Farkers, here is you party's Presidential Nominee!


bwcentral.org
Indeed
 
2013-09-25 09:34:30 AM

SlothB77: unexplained bacon: Dancin_In_Anson: 17 hours. Wow! Good on him!

As someone who apparently supports this, can you tell me what point you think Cruz is attempting to make by reading that particular Dr.Seuss story? Am I missing some RW angle on this?

just random?
or hilariously unintentionally entertaining the Dem?

First, he wasn't making a point.  He was just filling time.  That is all he is doing.  If he needs to read the phone book to fill time, he will.

He was actually reading the book to his kids.  He told them to turn him on at 8pm and he was reading bedtime stories to his daughters.


thanks fella...so option #2 then.

do you think he understood the point of the story?
lol
 
2013-09-25 09:35:25 AM

RedPhoenix122: Free market, government socialism, blah blah.


dude, Obama is blah, not blah blah
 
2013-09-25 09:36:35 AM

unexplained bacon: The Rs seem afraid that ACA will be well liked in general, but they should probably be worried about the fallout if their base in the red states figures out just how much their state level GOPers screwed them out of benefiting from it.

I know the echo chamber is sealed up pretty tight these days, but if it turns out that the rates in red states that refused to work with the Feds on the ACA are undeniably, unskewably higher than rates in state that didn't cut off their nose to spite their face that's going to be hard to blame on Obama....well, it should be.


I am really, really hoping that's how it plays out, and it looks like there's a good chance it will work that way.
 
2013-09-25 09:36:59 AM

Jackson Herring: unexplained bacon: or hilariously unintentionally entertaining the Dem?

Anything that disrupts the government is good in his eyes.


Ted Cruz: America's whoopee cushion
 
2013-09-25 09:38:01 AM

Aristocles: Heliovdrake: Aristocles: Ted Cruz is a modern day Abolitionist. He and a handful of other freedom loving Patriots are fighting tooth and nail to Abolish Obamacare.

Aristocles, you need to go.

Teds little stand up routine here doesn't actually accomplish anything, it isn't even a real filibuster for christs sake.

Most of American has already decided to try the Green Eggs and Ham provided by the ACA.

In fact, we voted on it... twice on a national level.

The GoP has failed to do anything about it, 42 times now.

42 times...

failed.

So? We're being held hostage by BOB and the dems. over 50% of Americans don't want Obamacare while about 42% support it. That's a minority controlling the majority, I seem to remember Farklibs warning about the dangers of this.


Who is Bob?

Do you know this Bob of which you speak, or are you just a sneak.

Did you vote for Bob last year, or do you hug your guns in fear?

Where is this Bob of which you speak, is he on a mountain at its peak?

Is he at door, giving alms to the filthy undeserving worthless poor?

Who is Bob, that you post all day about at your job,

that give no insurance for your wife to carry, why did she pick you to marry.

Should you be doing work, you over paid and useless jerk?
 
2013-09-25 09:38:12 AM

Dancin_In_Anson: How many of you championed Wendy Davis?


Native Texan woman here. I grabbed a six-pack of Shiner and watched the whole farking thing. I figured that if she could stand and talk, I could certainly sit comfortably, have a beer and listen. (I wish I could've been in Austin) Wendy Davis is intelligent and inspiring. Ted Cruz is an AW'ing asshat.
 
2013-09-25 09:38:35 AM

Jackson Herring: Eddie Adams from Torrance: Next, he's going to read The Lorax when railing against the EPA

The Butter Battle Book during his filibuster against defense cuts


Hop on Pop during a filibuster against elder abuse laws...eh, I got nothing.
 
2013-09-25 09:38:43 AM
Is he still going?
 
2013-09-25 09:40:38 AM

Dancin_In_Anson: How many of you championed Wendy Davis?


Well, lets compare them.

Wendy Davis talked for hours, on topic, in order to prevent a vote and defeat a bill which she fundamentally disagreed with.
Ted Cruz talked for hours, completely off topic at times, in order to show his ass on TV because they had already scheduled a vote for the next day and weren't waiting on his to shut up, in order to defeat a bill which would fund everything but Obamacare, a position he supposedly champions.

Tell me this: say Ted Cruz was filibustering.  Say he was able to prevent the House's bill which defunds Obamacare from going forward in the Senate.  How could doing that possibly do anything other than cause a government shutdown?
 
2013-09-25 09:40:59 AM

HMS_Blinkin: Also, if I were filibustering, I would post a thread on /b/ saying "DUBS TELLS ME WHAT TO SAY ON THE SENATE FLOOR."  The lulz would be epic.


TRIPS POWER HIM UP. ONLY QUADS CAN STOP HIM.

/Rollin'
 
2013-09-25 09:41:19 AM

Serious Black: Preventing health insurance companies from discriminating against sick people is an example of the government controlling my health care decisions?


An act of government giving you a greater opportunity to exercise health care decisions is government control of health care in the same sense that an act of government recognizing equal rights of homosexuals is government control of marriage.
 
2013-09-25 09:41:30 AM

unexplained bacon: SlothB77: unexplained bacon: Dancin_In_Anson: 17 hours. Wow! Good on him!

As someone who apparently supports this, can you tell me what point you think Cruz is attempting to make by reading that particular Dr.Seuss story? Am I missing some RW angle on this?

just random?
or hilariously unintentionally entertaining the Dem?

First, he wasn't making a point.  He was just filling time.  That is all he is doing.  If he needs to read the phone book to fill time, he will.

He was actually reading the book to his kids.  He told them to turn him on at 8pm and he was reading bedtime stories to his daughters.

thanks fella...so option #2 then.

do you think he understood the point of the story?
lol


There's no way he doesn't understand the point of the story, because the Republican leadership has repeatedly said that once Obamacare gets implemented, it will never be repealed.
 
2013-09-25 09:41:32 AM
There's a Red under my bed!
 
2013-09-25 09:43:15 AM
Oh, The Places You'll Go is an allegory for American isolationism as championed by Pat Buchanan. Study it out.
 
2013-09-25 09:44:54 AM

Serious Black: Yeah, I'm an idiot and have absolutely no idea what ObamaCare does or what would work in health care and insurance policy. It's not like I've read the entire bill from cover to cover, own and have read dozens of books on how America and other first-world countries around the planet, and consistently read reports from health care economists that get published in journals like the New England Journal of Medicine.


Yeah, but how many of them were written by Sean Hannity?

Check. Mate.
 
2013-09-25 09:44:59 AM

Genevieve Marie: unexplained bacon: The Rs seem afraid that ACA will be well liked in general, but they should probably be worried about the fallout if their base in the red states figures out just how much their state level GOPers screwed them out of benefiting from it.

I know the echo chamber is sealed up pretty tight these days, but if it turns out that the rates in red states that refused to work with the Feds on the ACA are undeniably, unskewably higher than rates in state that didn't cut off their nose to spite their face that's going to be hard to blame on Obama....well, it should be.

I am really, really hoping that's how it plays out, and it looks like there's a good chance it will work that way.


I just can't imagine what the game plan for these GOP states was...what were they thinking?
Or was it just straight up childish spite? (that's what it looks like)

I haven't had a chance to play around with different states using that tax tool that helps determine your rates with ACA....anyone got that link handy?

can some farkers who have the time (gotta work...no, really...) run a few basic comparisons on that? average household in California vs Texas....that sort of thing.
 
2013-09-25 09:45:49 AM
Heliovdrake:

Who is Bob?

Do you know this Bob of which you speak, or are you just a sneak.

Did you vote for Bob last year, or do you hug your guns in fear?

Where is this Bob of which you speak, is he on a mountain at its peak?

Is he at door, giving alms to the filthy undeserving worthless poor?

Who is Bob, that you post all day about at your job,

that give no insurance for your wife to carry, why did she pick you to marry.

Should you be doing work, you over paid and useless jerk?


*applause*


this is really nice!
 
2013-09-25 09:46:52 AM

Dancin_In_Anson: 17 hours. Wow! Good on him!


Sisyphus has been at it for millennia.
 
2013-09-25 09:49:58 AM

Jaymark108: IdBeCrazyIf: Does anyone else get the delicious irony of him reading Green Eggs and Ham in an attempt to delay something that no one has had a chance yet to try?

In fact, from the article:  "'Green Eggs and Ham' has some applicability, as curious as it may sound, to the Obamcare debate," Cruz said after he finished, to a few audible chuckles from the Senate gallery.

Isn't that what the Republicans are afraid of? That Americans will really like it once they are forced to try it?


He expanded his explination that the American people have also repeatedly told Obama they don't want Obamacare, and yet he's not abandoning it in advance of implimentation. Plus he's mentioned in interviews with conservative news sources that he's confident Obamacare will be popular, but with exactly the wrong type of people since entitlements punish job creators and give unearned gifts to moochers. In other words, Green Eggs and Ham has a tragic ending in his vision once you assume said food was stolen from good hard working taxpayers and the lazy unemployed main character of the story is finally swayed from a principled stance to suckling the government teat.

Of course, that also points to the hilarity of Cruz's main argument being "you should listen to the American people and only vote in ways a majority of Americans agree with" and then compare that ideal to his voting record.
 
2013-09-25 09:50:38 AM
OK, so I finally heard his voice this morning on NPR. Between that and his general look:

Is anyone else reminded of Bill Engvall?

Are we sure this isn't a joke? Like maybe he's going to come out one day with a giant box, grab one of several hundred signs out of it and start handing them out to the House reps, with a "Here's your sign."?
 
2013-09-25 09:51:39 AM
It's really a perfect choice.

Sam:  "I've never had green eggs and ham, but I know I don't like them".
Cruz:  "I've never had Obamacare, but I know I don't like it."
 
2013-09-25 09:54:18 AM
No chance. Fat boy from Jersey is our next president.
 
2013-09-25 09:55:35 AM

PanicMan: Dancin_In_Anson: 17 hours. Wow! Good on him!

But what has he accomplished? What would have been different if he'd been playing World of Warcraft for the past 17 hours instead?


Finished half of a complete Blackroot Depths run?
 
2013-09-25 09:57:48 AM

mark.jms: OK, so I finally heard his voice this morning on NPR. Between that and his general look:

Is anyone else reminded of Bill Engvall?


Unfunny, homespun comedy?  No.

But I do find him funny looking.
 
2013-09-25 10:00:34 AM

MattStafford: God, the stuff that I would read if I was filibustering.


 "50 Shades of Potato"...??
 
2013-09-25 10:01:39 AM

Aristocles: Heliovdrake: Aristocles: Ted Cruz is a modern day Abolitionist. He and a handful of other freedom loving Patriots are fighting tooth and nail to Abolish Obamacare.

Aristocles, you need to go.

Teds little stand up routine here doesn't actually accomplish anything, it isn't even a real filibuster for christs sake.

Most of American has already decided to try the Green Eggs and Ham provided by the ACA.

In fact, we voted on it... twice on a national level.

The GoP has failed to do anything about it, 42 times now.

42 times...

failed.

So? We're being held hostage by BOB and the dems. over 50% of Americans don't want Obamacare while about 42% support it. That's a minority controlling the majority, I seem to remember Farklibs warning about the dangers of this.


Who is this bob person you keep talking about?
 
2013-09-25 10:01:49 AM
He's reading something else now. Don't listen.
 
2013-09-25 10:03:52 AM

Dancin_In_Anson: He's reading something else now. Don't listen.


Humpy dumpy? Would seem appropriate at this point.
 
2013-09-25 10:04:31 AM

Weaver95: Aristocles: Heliovdrake: Aristocles: Ted Cruz is a modern day Abolitionist. He and a handful of other freedom loving Patriots are fighting tooth and nail to Abolish Obamacare.

Aristocles, you need to go.

Teds little stand up routine here doesn't actually accomplish anything, it isn't even a real filibuster for christs sake.

Most of American has already decided to try the Green Eggs and Ham provided by the ACA.

In fact, we voted on it... twice on a national level.

The GoP has failed to do anything about it, 42 times now.

42 times...

failed.

So? We're being held hostage by BOB and the dems. over 50% of Americans don't want Obamacare while about 42% support it. That's a minority controlling the majority, I seem to remember Farklibs warning about the dangers of this.

Who is this bob person you keep talking about?


Barack OBama.  Its a version of shortening a name...for numerous reasons.  Like using W instead of President George W. Bush.  Some people think its funny and annoying.  Others think its annoying.  But both sides seem desperate to make it happen.
 
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