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2013-09-25 07:08:51 AM  
He will herp up on the Hill. He will derp about the bill.
 
2013-09-25 07:30:23 AM  
I swear, I swear, I do not know what I said. I swear I swear, my name ain't Ted
 
2013-09-25 07:32:52 AM  
17 hours. Wow! Good on him!
 
2013-09-25 07:37:30 AM  

Dancin_In_Anson: 17 hours. Wow! Good on him!


Well Dr. Seuss is a bit tough for him to read, so I guess 17 hours is faster than most would expect him to finish it.
 
2013-09-25 07:39:20 AM  
This had better go green.
 
2013-09-25 07:42:28 AM  

somedude210: Well Dr. Seuss is a bit tough for him to read, so I guess 17 hours is faster than most would expect him to finish it.


That's the best you've got eh?
 
2013-09-25 07:46:44 AM  

make me some tea: This had better go green.


Agreed.


/ he is doing a pretty funny job so far. . . as idiotic as it is
 
2013-09-25 07:46:58 AM  
So he's saying once Americans try it, they'll love Obamacare?

Maybe a more apt comparison than he intended...
 
2013-09-25 07:54:30 AM  

Dancin_In_Anson: somedude210: Well Dr. Seuss is a bit tough for him to read, so I guess 17 hours is faster than most would expect him to finish it.

That's the best you've got eh?


it's early, I'm still submitting headlines. I spent my funny on this one
 
2013-09-25 08:03:49 AM  

Dancin_In_Anson: somedude210: Well Dr. Seuss is a bit tough for him to read, so I guess 17 hours is faster than most would expect him to finish it.

That's the best you've got eh?


I dunno, that was pretty good.
 
2013-09-25 08:07:22 AM  

WI241TH: So he's saying once Americans try it, they'll love Obamacare?

Maybe a more apt comparison than he intended...


I'm sure that wasn't his intent but I don't credit the GOP with a lot of intelligence. It would be right up their alley to completely misunderstand the message of a dr. Seuss story.
 
2013-09-25 08:15:41 AM  
The junior senator from Texas also negotiated the terms of his speech with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) in advance, on Monday.

Reid: So you're going to talk for hours on end?
Cruz: Yes.
Reid: About why you think Obamacare is bad?
Cruz: No, I'm gonna read Dr. Seuss.
Reid: One second, I'm getting a text message from the President. He's got some advice for you.
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-09-25 08:27:33 AM  

Weaver95: WI241TH: So he's saying once Americans try it, they'll love Obamacare?

Maybe a more apt comparison than he intended...

I'm sure that wasn't his intent but I don't credit the GOP with a lot of intelligence. It would be right up their alley to completely misunderstand the message of a dr. Seuss story.


You'd have to be pretty damn dense to forget the last 2 pages of the book just a couple of minutes after you finished reading it.

Maybe we need to define the "Cruz" as a unit of stupidity. Most people would be measured in milliCruzes.
"She was dumb. About 200 mC".
 
2013-09-25 08:32:48 AM  

MrBallou: Weaver95: WI241TH: So he's saying once Americans try it, they'll love Obamacare?

Maybe a more apt comparison than he intended...

I'm sure that wasn't his intent but I don't credit the GOP with a lot of intelligence. It would be right up their alley to completely misunderstand the message of a dr. Seuss story.

You'd have to be pretty damn dense to forget the last 2 pages of the book just a couple of minutes after you finished reading it.

Maybe we need to define the "Cruz" as a unit of stupidity. Most people would be measured in milliCruzes.
"She was dumb. About 200 mC".


I wouldn't put it past Cruz to deliberately misinterpret dr. Seuss tho.
 
2013-09-25 08:37:35 AM  
WE GET IT. YOU'RE RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT.
 
2013-09-25 08:39:56 AM  
"Filibustering" a bill that became law forty-two months ago should really go a long way to combat the perception that Republicans are a bunch of purposeless obstructionists living in the past.
 
2013-09-25 08:41:00 AM  

Weaver95: I'm sure that wasn't his intent but I don't credit the GOP with a lot of intelligence. It would be right up their alley to completely misunderstand the message of a dr. Seuss story.


I get that they don't understand the bible, what with all those chapters and olde timey words, but Dr. Seuss?  That's...just sad enough to be true.
 
2013-09-25 08:41:58 AM  
Why is a Canadian so upset over progressive health care?
 
2013-09-25 08:42:50 AM  

kronicfeld: "Filibustering" a bill that became law forty-two months ago should really go a long way to combat the perception that Republicans are a bunch of purposeless obstructionists living in the past.


Technically, it's not a filibuster. It's a "talk to delay the inevitable procedural vote because I'm an attention whore" type thing
 
2013-09-25 08:43:34 AM  

somedude210: Technically, it's not a filibuster. It's a "talk to delay the inevitable procedural vote because I'm an attention whore" type thing


Yes, that is why I used quotation marks to indicate that the term is being used imprecisely.
 
2013-09-25 08:45:32 AM  
The thing that blows me away the most, is that he turns Green Eggs and Ham of all things into a talk about the ACA... I honestly think that this is the first time hes ever actually read the book.

Hey Ted, The moral of the story is that you cant know if you like something or not before you try it.


or maybe he was just trying to send a political message to the other Elected GOP members.

If we let people use the ACA, they are going to like it, so we have to do everything in our power to stop or derail it.
 
2013-09-25 08:47:02 AM  

kronicfeld: "Filibustering" a bill that became law forty-two months ago should really go a long way to combat the perception that Republicans are a bunch of purposeless obstructionists living in the past.


Not to the true believers. They still think they can get rid of obamacare by legislative fiat. Like I said...most republicans these days are kind of dumb.
 
2013-09-25 09:10:30 AM  
How many of you championed Wendy Davis?
 
2013-09-25 09:14:15 AM  

Dancin_In_Anson: How many of you championed Wendy Davis?


you understand this isn't an actual filibuster, right? All he's doing is delaying a procedural vote that is going to happen regardless. Wendy Davis' filibuster delayed the bill from getting voted on until the special session ran out of time. There is no time limit here, it's going to happen and his blathering does nothing to stop it.

/on a related note, he's moved on to talking Star Wars now
//complete with Darth Vader noises
///no light saber "whooshing" though
 
2013-09-25 09:14:44 AM  

Dancin_In_Anson: How many of you championed Wendy Davis?


that was an actual filibuster. this is pure political theater.
 
2013-09-25 09:15:23 AM  
Does anyone else get the delicious irony of him reading Green Eggs and Ham in an attempt to delay something that no one has had a chance yet to try?
 
2013-09-25 09:17:15 AM  

Dancin_In_Anson: How many of you championed Wendy Davis?


Yeah, 'cos a woman's right to choose what she does with her own body is exactly like health insurance companies' right to price-gouge without interference from pesky rules and laws.
I guess both sides ARE the same.
 
2013-09-25 09:17:15 AM  

Dancin_In_Anson: How many of you championed Wendy Davis?


Do you understand the difference between what Wendy did, and what Tom is doing..


Show your work.
 
2013-09-25 09:17:30 AM  

IdBeCrazyIf: Does anyone else get the delicious irony of him reading Green Eggs and Ham in an attempt to delay something that no one has had a chance yet to try?


In fact, from the article:  "'Green Eggs and Ham' has some applicability, as curious as it may sound, to the Obamcare debate," Cruz said after he finished, to a few audible chuckles from the Senate gallery.

Isn't that what the Republicans are afraid of? That Americans will really like it once they are forced to try it?
 
2013-09-25 09:18:08 AM  

FlashHarry: Dancin_In_Anson: How many of you championed Wendy Davis?

that was an actual filibuster. this is pure political theater.


At least he's standing up and talking, rather than these bullshiat "paper filibusters" we've been getting so much for the last couple of years.

/still derpy and pointless though.
 
2013-09-25 09:18:10 AM  
God, the stuff that I would read if I was filibustering.
 
2013-09-25 09:18:17 AM  

Dancin_In_Anson: How many of you championed Wendy Davis?


You mean the woman that performed a real filibuster, with a real point, to actually block harmful legislation?

Yea, there's a massive difference between what she did and what this dude is doing.
 
2013-09-25 09:18:28 AM  

Weaver95: WI241TH: So he's saying once Americans try it, they'll love Obamacare?

Maybe a more apt comparison than he intended...

I'm sure that wasn't his intent but I don't credit the GOP with a lot of intelligence. It would be right up their alley to completely misunderstand the message of a dr. Seuss story.


THIS!

/in the end he loves it
//love the GOP derp
 
2013-09-25 09:18:28 AM  
Aw - Isn't that sweet? He reads to his children!

\he's still an asshole
 
2013-09-25 09:18:53 AM  
Behold Republican Farkers, here is you party's Presidential Nominee!
 
2013-09-25 09:18:54 AM  

somedude210: Dancin_In_Anson: somedude210: Well Dr. Seuss is a bit tough for him to read, so I guess 17 hours is faster than most would expect him to finish it.

That's the best you've got eh?

it's early, I'm still submitting headlines. I spent my funny on this one


You beat mine to the punch.

/not bitter
 
2013-09-25 09:19:01 AM  
all causes are exactly equal

if you libs cheered on wendy davis you should cheer on anyone who filibusters anything for any reason

like strom thurmond
 
2013-09-25 09:19:03 AM  

Weaver95: MrBallou: Weaver95: WI241TH: So he's saying once Americans try it, they'll love Obamacare?

Maybe a more apt comparison than he intended...

I'm sure that wasn't his intent but I don't credit the GOP with a lot of intelligence. It would be right up their alley to completely misunderstand the message of a dr. Seuss story.

You'd have to be pretty damn dense to forget the last 2 pages of the book just a couple of minutes after you finished reading it.

Maybe we need to define the "Cruz" as a unit of stupidity. Most people would be measured in milliCruzes.
"She was dumb. About 200 mC".

I wouldn't put it past Cruz to deliberately misinterpret dr. Seuss tho.


Of course that's what he's doing. Even he isn't that dense, but he's hoping his Base is.

Can you imagine the contempt he must feel for the idiots he's trying to con into voting for him?
 
2013-09-25 09:20:10 AM  

Jaymark108: IdBeCrazyIf: Does anyone else get the delicious irony of him reading Green Eggs and Ham in an attempt to delay something that no one has had a chance yet to try?

In fact, from the article:  "'Green Eggs and Ham' has some applicability, as curious as it may sound, to the Obamcare debate," Cruz said after he finished, to a few audible chuckles from the Senate gallery.

Isn't that what the Republicans are afraid of? That Americans will really like it once they are forced to try it?


That's exactly what they're afraid of.  And frankly, I don't see any other way that Green Eggs and Ham is applicable to Obamacare.  Is he admitting in advance that Republicans are going to start taking credit for Obamacare in the next 2 years?
 
2013-09-25 09:20:20 AM  
Two hundred thirty seven years.  Eh, it was a pretty good run.
 
2013-09-25 09:21:00 AM  

IdBeCrazyIf: Does anyone else get the delicious irony of him reading Green Eggs and Ham in an attempt to delay something that no one has had a chance yet to try?


Exactly
 
2013-09-25 09:21:39 AM  

Dancin_In_Anson: How many of you championed Wendy Davis?


Did Wendy Davis pre-plan her speech with the opposition? Was Wendy Davis allowed to speak as long as she wanted? Was Wendy Davis able to grant time to her colleagues and then resume speaking?
Did Ted Cruz spend all of his time discussing the bill itself? Was Ted Cruz's speech ended by a massive willful misinterpretation of what words mean? Was Ted Cruz actually delaying a vote with his actions? Did Ted Cruz actually stop the bill he was protesting from being passed at the time? Did Democrats break their own rules to try to nullify Ted Cruz's speech?

I gotta say, man, other than the fact that they were each politicians in Texas who spoke for a while (remember, Cruz did not filibuster, because that's a word that has an actual meaning), I can't really see what else these things have in common.
 
2013-09-25 09:22:04 AM  
ted cruz comparing liberals to nazis is exactly as heroic as wendy davis
 
2013-09-25 09:22:09 AM  

Aristocles: Ted Cruz is a modern day Abolitionist. He and a handful of other freedom loving Patriots are fighting tooth and nail to Abolish Obamacare.


Aristocles, you need to go.

Teds little stand up routine here doesn't actually accomplish anything, it isn't even a real filibuster for christs sake.

Most of American has already decided to try the Green Eggs and Ham provided by the ACA.

In fact, we voted on it... twice on a national level.

The GoP has failed to do anything about it, 42 times now.

42 times...

failed.
 
2013-09-25 09:23:03 AM  
We've established that he's an idiot. But just what kind of idiot is he?
 
2013-09-25 09:23:20 AM  

Dancin_In_Anson: 17 hours. Wow! Good on him!


But what has he accomplished? What would have been different if he'd been playing World of Warcraft for the past 17 hours instead?
 
2013-09-25 09:23:42 AM  

MattStafford: God, the stuff that I would read if I was filibustering.


Well Matt, I Imagine you would read the collected works of Ayn Rand.
 
2013-09-25 09:23:55 AM  
This is a very brave man going to heroic lengths to save this country.
 
2013-09-25 09:24:28 AM  
Also, if I were filibustering, I would post a thread on /b/ saying "DUBS TELLS ME WHAT TO SAY ON THE SENATE FLOOR."  The lulz would be epic.
 
2013-09-25 09:25:12 AM  

Dancin_In_Anson: 17 hours. Wow! Good on him!


Good on him for what?  Make a pointless, fruitless, grandstanding attempt to do ... what is it again?

Hey, I have an idea - maybe he could have used that time to actually READ THE FARKING BILL on the floor of the senate. No, he resorted to lies and hyperbole and, get this , childrens books.

Laugh Out Motherfarking Loud.
 
2013-09-25 09:25:33 AM  

MattStafford: God, the stuff that I would read if I was filibustering.


I fully intend to submit a fark thread about it beforehand and just do a dramatic reading of the thread, violating decency laws, be damned
 
2013-09-25 09:26:25 AM  
theplazz.com
 
2013-09-25 09:26:46 AM  

Dancin_In_Anson: How many of you championed Wendy Davis?


She was required to stay on-topic.
 
2013-09-25 09:26:54 AM  

Genevieve Marie: Dancin_In_Anson: How many of you championed Wendy Davis?

You mean the woman that performed a real filibuster, with a real point, to actually block harmful legislation?

Yea, there's a massive difference between what she did and what this dude is doing.


Not only that, but had to stay on the topic of the actual bill.  There's no way she could stand up there and read "Green Eggs and Ham"
 
2013-09-25 09:27:04 AM  

Dancin_In_Anson: 17 hours. Wow! Good on him!


As someone who apparently supports this, can you tell me what point you think Cruz is attempting to make by reading that particular Dr.Seuss story? Am I missing some RW angle on this?

just random?
or hilariously unintentionally entertaining the Dem?
 
2013-09-25 09:27:27 AM  
fauxlibuster

I wish I could take credit for that
 
2013-09-25 09:27:54 AM  

Weaver95: kronicfeld: "Filibustering" a bill that became law forty-two months ago should really go a long way to combat the perception that Republicans are a bunch of purposeless obstructionists living in the past.

Not to the true believers. They still think they can get rid of obamacare by legislative fiat. Like I said...most republicans these days are kind of dumb.


No, even the freepers understand it is a lost cause. As usual they have found a way to admire him for it.

TOFTT
"When was the last time we saw a poltician take a principled stand for something he knew was right? Cruz isn't going to win this one. I think he's known that for some time. But instead of going along to get along he is not compromising his core beliefs in the slightest. He is going to go down fighting regardless of who it pisses off because he firmly believes it's in the best interests of the country to oppose Obamacare. How many Congresscritters will place country over career in that fashion? Damned few. "
 
2013-09-25 09:28:06 AM  

unexplained bacon: or hilariously unintentionally entertaining the Dem?


Anything that disrupts the government is good in his eyes.
 
2013-09-25 09:29:05 AM  
Someone pointed out that whomever holds the copyright for Green Eggs and Ham could go after him for an unauthorized "Public Performance".
 
2013-09-25 09:29:09 AM  

unexplained bacon: Dancin_In_Anson: 17 hours. Wow! Good on him!

As someone who apparently supports this, can you tell me what point you think Cruz is attempting to make by reading that particular Dr.Seuss story? Am I missing some RW angle on this?

just random?
or hilariously unintentionally entertaining the Dem?


First, he wasn't making a point.  He was just filling time.  That is all he is doing.  If he needs to read the phone book to fill time, he will.

He was actually reading the book to his kids.  He told them to turn him on at 8pm and he was reading bedtime stories to his daughters.
 
2013-09-25 09:29:15 AM  
Next, he's going to read The Lorax when railing against the EPA
 
2013-09-25 09:30:01 AM  

HMS_Blinkin: Also, if I were filibustering, I would post a thread on /b/ saying "DUBS TELLS ME WHAT TO SAY ON THE SENATE FLOOR."  The lulz would be epic.


I would do a StopArrestingMe style hidden word search.  Maybe Star Trek episode names?
 
2013-09-25 09:30:20 AM  
I hope this man is nominated to run against Hillary.
 
2013-09-25 09:30:22 AM  

RminusQ: The junior senator from Texas also negotiated the terms of his speech with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) in advance, on Monday.

Reid: So you're going to talk for hours on end?
Cruz: Yes.
Reid: About why you think Obamacare is bad?
Cruz: No, I'm gonna read Dr. Seuss.
Reid: One second, I'm getting a text message from the President. He's got some advice for you.
[4.bp.blogspot.com image 320x200]


Ha! Yeah, I noted that in TFA too, so it was a pre-arranged instance of attention whoring/stroking the base... and Republicans say Democrats aren't team players.
 
2013-09-25 09:30:22 AM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: Next, he's going to read The Lorax when railing against the EPA


The Butter Battle Book during his filibuster against defense cuts
 
2013-09-25 09:31:19 AM  

Jackson Herring: all causes are exactly equal

if you libs cheered on wendy davis you should cheer on anyone who filibusters anything for any reason

like strom thurmond


I'm pretty surprised there isn't an obese dog pic to really drive this point home.
 
2013-09-25 09:31:59 AM  

jntaylor63: Behold Republican Farkers, here is you party's Presidential Nominee!


bwcentral.org
Indeed
 
2013-09-25 09:32:56 AM  

PanicMan: HMS_Blinkin: Also, if I were filibustering, I would post a thread on /b/ saying "DUBS TELLS ME WHAT TO SAY ON THE SENATE FLOOR."  The lulz would be epic.

I would do a StopArrestingMe style hidden word search.  Maybe Star Trek episode names?


Oooh, that'd be good too.
 
2013-09-25 09:33:23 AM  
The Rs seem afraid that ACA will be well liked in general, but they should probably be worried about the fallout if their base in the red states figures out just how much their state level GOPers screwed them out of benefiting from it.

I know the echo chamber is sealed up pretty tight these days, but if it turns out that the rates in red states that refused to work with the Feds on the ACA are undeniably, unskewably higher than rates in state that didn't cut off their nose to spite their face that's going to be hard to blame on Obama....well, it should be.
 
2013-09-25 09:33:24 AM  
Americans "did not like green eggs and ham, and they did not like Obamacare either," he added. "They did not like Obamacare in a box, with a fox, in a house, with a mouse."


he actually said this shiat

HE ACTUALLY farkING SAID IT
 
2013-09-25 09:33:31 AM  

Jackson Herring: all causes are exactly equal

if you libs cheered on wendy davis you should cheer on anyone who filibusters anything for any reason

like strom thurmond


You don't troll often but when you do you troll hard. Bravo. You are a sparking eagle away from a perfect 10/10.

jntaylor63: Behold Republican Farkers, here is you party's Presidential Nominee!


bwcentral.org
Indeed
 
2013-09-25 09:34:30 AM  

SlothB77: unexplained bacon: Dancin_In_Anson: 17 hours. Wow! Good on him!

As someone who apparently supports this, can you tell me what point you think Cruz is attempting to make by reading that particular Dr.Seuss story? Am I missing some RW angle on this?

just random?
or hilariously unintentionally entertaining the Dem?

First, he wasn't making a point.  He was just filling time.  That is all he is doing.  If he needs to read the phone book to fill time, he will.

He was actually reading the book to his kids.  He told them to turn him on at 8pm and he was reading bedtime stories to his daughters.


thanks fella...so option #2 then.

do you think he understood the point of the story?
lol
 
2013-09-25 09:35:25 AM  

RedPhoenix122: Free market, government socialism, blah blah.


dude, Obama is blah, not blah blah
 
2013-09-25 09:36:35 AM  

unexplained bacon: The Rs seem afraid that ACA will be well liked in general, but they should probably be worried about the fallout if their base in the red states figures out just how much their state level GOPers screwed them out of benefiting from it.

I know the echo chamber is sealed up pretty tight these days, but if it turns out that the rates in red states that refused to work with the Feds on the ACA are undeniably, unskewably higher than rates in state that didn't cut off their nose to spite their face that's going to be hard to blame on Obama....well, it should be.


I am really, really hoping that's how it plays out, and it looks like there's a good chance it will work that way.
 
2013-09-25 09:36:59 AM  

Jackson Herring: unexplained bacon: or hilariously unintentionally entertaining the Dem?

Anything that disrupts the government is good in his eyes.


Ted Cruz: America's whoopee cushion
 
2013-09-25 09:38:01 AM  

Aristocles: Heliovdrake: Aristocles: Ted Cruz is a modern day Abolitionist. He and a handful of other freedom loving Patriots are fighting tooth and nail to Abolish Obamacare.

Aristocles, you need to go.

Teds little stand up routine here doesn't actually accomplish anything, it isn't even a real filibuster for christs sake.

Most of American has already decided to try the Green Eggs and Ham provided by the ACA.

In fact, we voted on it... twice on a national level.

The GoP has failed to do anything about it, 42 times now.

42 times...

failed.

So? We're being held hostage by BOB and the dems. over 50% of Americans don't want Obamacare while about 42% support it. That's a minority controlling the majority, I seem to remember Farklibs warning about the dangers of this.


Who is Bob?

Do you know this Bob of which you speak, or are you just a sneak.

Did you vote for Bob last year, or do you hug your guns in fear?

Where is this Bob of which you speak, is he on a mountain at its peak?

Is he at door, giving alms to the filthy undeserving worthless poor?

Who is Bob, that you post all day about at your job,

that give no insurance for your wife to carry, why did she pick you to marry.

Should you be doing work, you over paid and useless jerk?
 
2013-09-25 09:38:12 AM  

Dancin_In_Anson: How many of you championed Wendy Davis?


Native Texan woman here. I grabbed a six-pack of Shiner and watched the whole farking thing. I figured that if she could stand and talk, I could certainly sit comfortably, have a beer and listen. (I wish I could've been in Austin) Wendy Davis is intelligent and inspiring. Ted Cruz is an AW'ing asshat.
 
2013-09-25 09:38:35 AM  

Jackson Herring: Eddie Adams from Torrance: Next, he's going to read The Lorax when railing against the EPA

The Butter Battle Book during his filibuster against defense cuts


Hop on Pop during a filibuster against elder abuse laws...eh, I got nothing.
 
2013-09-25 09:38:43 AM  
Is he still going?
 
2013-09-25 09:40:38 AM  

Dancin_In_Anson: How many of you championed Wendy Davis?


Well, lets compare them.

Wendy Davis talked for hours, on topic, in order to prevent a vote and defeat a bill which she fundamentally disagreed with.
Ted Cruz talked for hours, completely off topic at times, in order to show his ass on TV because they had already scheduled a vote for the next day and weren't waiting on his to shut up, in order to defeat a bill which would fund everything but Obamacare, a position he supposedly champions.

Tell me this: say Ted Cruz was filibustering.  Say he was able to prevent the House's bill which defunds Obamacare from going forward in the Senate.  How could doing that possibly do anything other than cause a government shutdown?
 
2013-09-25 09:40:59 AM  

HMS_Blinkin: Also, if I were filibustering, I would post a thread on /b/ saying "DUBS TELLS ME WHAT TO SAY ON THE SENATE FLOOR."  The lulz would be epic.


TRIPS POWER HIM UP. ONLY QUADS CAN STOP HIM.

/Rollin'
 
2013-09-25 09:41:19 AM  

Serious Black: Preventing health insurance companies from discriminating against sick people is an example of the government controlling my health care decisions?


An act of government giving you a greater opportunity to exercise health care decisions is government control of health care in the same sense that an act of government recognizing equal rights of homosexuals is government control of marriage.
 
2013-09-25 09:41:30 AM  

unexplained bacon: SlothB77: unexplained bacon: Dancin_In_Anson: 17 hours. Wow! Good on him!

As someone who apparently supports this, can you tell me what point you think Cruz is attempting to make by reading that particular Dr.Seuss story? Am I missing some RW angle on this?

just random?
or hilariously unintentionally entertaining the Dem?

First, he wasn't making a point.  He was just filling time.  That is all he is doing.  If he needs to read the phone book to fill time, he will.

He was actually reading the book to his kids.  He told them to turn him on at 8pm and he was reading bedtime stories to his daughters.

thanks fella...so option #2 then.

do you think he understood the point of the story?
lol


There's no way he doesn't understand the point of the story, because the Republican leadership has repeatedly said that once Obamacare gets implemented, it will never be repealed.
 
2013-09-25 09:41:32 AM  
There's a Red under my bed!
 
2013-09-25 09:43:15 AM  
Oh, The Places You'll Go is an allegory for American isolationism as championed by Pat Buchanan. Study it out.
 
2013-09-25 09:44:54 AM  

Serious Black: Yeah, I'm an idiot and have absolutely no idea what ObamaCare does or what would work in health care and insurance policy. It's not like I've read the entire bill from cover to cover, own and have read dozens of books on how America and other first-world countries around the planet, and consistently read reports from health care economists that get published in journals like the New England Journal of Medicine.


Yeah, but how many of them were written by Sean Hannity?

Check. Mate.
 
2013-09-25 09:44:59 AM  

Genevieve Marie: unexplained bacon: The Rs seem afraid that ACA will be well liked in general, but they should probably be worried about the fallout if their base in the red states figures out just how much their state level GOPers screwed them out of benefiting from it.

I know the echo chamber is sealed up pretty tight these days, but if it turns out that the rates in red states that refused to work with the Feds on the ACA are undeniably, unskewably higher than rates in state that didn't cut off their nose to spite their face that's going to be hard to blame on Obama....well, it should be.

I am really, really hoping that's how it plays out, and it looks like there's a good chance it will work that way.


I just can't imagine what the game plan for these GOP states was...what were they thinking?
Or was it just straight up childish spite? (that's what it looks like)

I haven't had a chance to play around with different states using that tax tool that helps determine your rates with ACA....anyone got that link handy?

can some farkers who have the time (gotta work...no, really...) run a few basic comparisons on that? average household in California vs Texas....that sort of thing.
 
2013-09-25 09:45:49 AM  
Heliovdrake:

Who is Bob?

Do you know this Bob of which you speak, or are you just a sneak.

Did you vote for Bob last year, or do you hug your guns in fear?

Where is this Bob of which you speak, is he on a mountain at its peak?

Is he at door, giving alms to the filthy undeserving worthless poor?

Who is Bob, that you post all day about at your job,

that give no insurance for your wife to carry, why did she pick you to marry.

Should you be doing work, you over paid and useless jerk?


*applause*


this is really nice!
 
2013-09-25 09:46:52 AM  

Dancin_In_Anson: 17 hours. Wow! Good on him!


Sisyphus has been at it for millennia.
 
2013-09-25 09:49:58 AM  

Jaymark108: IdBeCrazyIf: Does anyone else get the delicious irony of him reading Green Eggs and Ham in an attempt to delay something that no one has had a chance yet to try?

In fact, from the article:  "'Green Eggs and Ham' has some applicability, as curious as it may sound, to the Obamcare debate," Cruz said after he finished, to a few audible chuckles from the Senate gallery.

Isn't that what the Republicans are afraid of? That Americans will really like it once they are forced to try it?


He expanded his explination that the American people have also repeatedly told Obama they don't want Obamacare, and yet he's not abandoning it in advance of implimentation. Plus he's mentioned in interviews with conservative news sources that he's confident Obamacare will be popular, but with exactly the wrong type of people since entitlements punish job creators and give unearned gifts to moochers. In other words, Green Eggs and Ham has a tragic ending in his vision once you assume said food was stolen from good hard working taxpayers and the lazy unemployed main character of the story is finally swayed from a principled stance to suckling the government teat.

Of course, that also points to the hilarity of Cruz's main argument being "you should listen to the American people and only vote in ways a majority of Americans agree with" and then compare that ideal to his voting record.
 
2013-09-25 09:50:38 AM  
OK, so I finally heard his voice this morning on NPR. Between that and his general look:

Is anyone else reminded of Bill Engvall?

Are we sure this isn't a joke? Like maybe he's going to come out one day with a giant box, grab one of several hundred signs out of it and start handing them out to the House reps, with a "Here's your sign."?
 
2013-09-25 09:51:39 AM  
It's really a perfect choice.

Sam:  "I've never had green eggs and ham, but I know I don't like them".
Cruz:  "I've never had Obamacare, but I know I don't like it."
 
2013-09-25 09:54:18 AM  
No chance. Fat boy from Jersey is our next president.
 
2013-09-25 09:55:35 AM  

PanicMan: Dancin_In_Anson: 17 hours. Wow! Good on him!

But what has he accomplished? What would have been different if he'd been playing World of Warcraft for the past 17 hours instead?


Finished half of a complete Blackroot Depths run?
 
2013-09-25 09:57:48 AM  

mark.jms: OK, so I finally heard his voice this morning on NPR. Between that and his general look:

Is anyone else reminded of Bill Engvall?


Unfunny, homespun comedy?  No.

But I do find him funny looking.
 
2013-09-25 10:00:34 AM  

MattStafford: God, the stuff that I would read if I was filibustering.


 "50 Shades of Potato"...??
 
2013-09-25 10:01:39 AM  

Aristocles: Heliovdrake: Aristocles: Ted Cruz is a modern day Abolitionist. He and a handful of other freedom loving Patriots are fighting tooth and nail to Abolish Obamacare.

Aristocles, you need to go.

Teds little stand up routine here doesn't actually accomplish anything, it isn't even a real filibuster for christs sake.

Most of American has already decided to try the Green Eggs and Ham provided by the ACA.

In fact, we voted on it... twice on a national level.

The GoP has failed to do anything about it, 42 times now.

42 times...

failed.

So? We're being held hostage by BOB and the dems. over 50% of Americans don't want Obamacare while about 42% support it. That's a minority controlling the majority, I seem to remember Farklibs warning about the dangers of this.


Who is this bob person you keep talking about?
 
2013-09-25 10:01:49 AM  
He's reading something else now. Don't listen.
 
2013-09-25 10:03:52 AM  

Dancin_In_Anson: He's reading something else now. Don't listen.


Humpy dumpy? Would seem appropriate at this point.
 
2013-09-25 10:04:31 AM  

Weaver95: Aristocles: Heliovdrake: Aristocles: Ted Cruz is a modern day Abolitionist. He and a handful of other freedom loving Patriots are fighting tooth and nail to Abolish Obamacare.

Aristocles, you need to go.

Teds little stand up routine here doesn't actually accomplish anything, it isn't even a real filibuster for christs sake.

Most of American has already decided to try the Green Eggs and Ham provided by the ACA.

In fact, we voted on it... twice on a national level.

The GoP has failed to do anything about it, 42 times now.

42 times...

failed.

So? We're being held hostage by BOB and the dems. over 50% of Americans don't want Obamacare while about 42% support it. That's a minority controlling the majority, I seem to remember Farklibs warning about the dangers of this.

Who is this bob person you keep talking about?


Barack OBama.  Its a version of shortening a name...for numerous reasons.  Like using W instead of President George W. Bush.  Some people think its funny and annoying.  Others think its annoying.  But both sides seem desperate to make it happen.
 
2013-09-25 10:05:17 AM  

Weaver95: Dancin_In_Anson: He's reading something else now. Don't listen.

Humpy dumpy? Would seem appropriate at this point.


The San Francisco phone book for Chinatown?
 
2013-09-25 10:06:39 AM  

Dancin_In_Anson: He's reading something else now. Don't listen.


Yes, and the moral of this one is that the little bug never would've gone ka-choo and caused all that mayhem if it had proper access to preventive care.
 
2013-09-25 10:09:28 AM  
"If I Ran the Zoo" is his Presidential platform.
 
2013-09-25 10:09:30 AM  

Aristocles: So? We're being held hostage by BOB and the dems. over 50% of Americans don't want Obamacare while about 42% support it. That's a minority controlling the majority, I seem to remember Farklibs warning about the dangers of this.


Please.  BOB, whoever he is, and the rest of the voices in your head certainly add up to a majority.
 
2013-09-25 10:09:48 AM  

Dancin_In_Anson: He's reading something else now. Don't listen.


The Necronomicon? The Pnakotic Manuscripts? The King in Yellow?
 
2013-09-25 10:10:00 AM  

somedude210: kronicfeld: "Filibustering" a bill that became law forty-two months ago should really go a long way to combat the perception that Republicans are a bunch of purposeless obstructionists living in the past.

Technically, it's not a filibuster. It's a "talk to delay the inevitable procedural vote because I'm an attention whore" type thing


And a "Go head, I'd love for you to draw more attention to yourself and further cement your status as the face and voice of the current GOP" type thing by by Reid.
 
2013-09-25 10:10:47 AM  

I_C_Weener: Weaver95: Aristocles: Heliovdrake: Aristocles: Ted Cruz is a modern day Abolitionist. He and a handful of other freedom loving Patriots are fighting tooth and nail to Abolish Obamacare.

Aristocles, you need to go.

Teds little stand up routine here doesn't actually accomplish anything, it isn't even a real filibuster for christs sake.

Most of American has already decided to try the Green Eggs and Ham provided by the ACA.

In fact, we voted on it... twice on a national level.

The GoP has failed to do anything about it, 42 times now.

42 times...

failed.

So? We're being held hostage by BOB and the dems. over 50% of Americans don't want Obamacare while about 42% support it. That's a minority controlling the majority, I seem to remember Farklibs warning about the dangers of this.

Who is this bob person you keep talking about?

Barack OBama.  Its a version of shortening a name...for numerous reasons.  Like using W instead of President George W. Bush.  Some people think its funny and annoying.  Others think its annoying.  But both sides seem desperate to make it happen.


Wow, well i think i've figured out why you're a republican. Bless your heart. I'm sure that no one asking that actually knew what he meant by BOB.
 
2013-09-25 10:10:59 AM  

Dancin_In_Anson: He's reading something else now. Don't listen.


the boy who cried wolf?
yes, yes...let's all plug our ears for fear of being enlightened yet again.

did you ever figure out what the point of him reading green eggs and ham was?

did you ever let it sink in that he clearly either intentionally derailed his own cause or completely misunderstood a children's story?
seriously...get it?
 
2013-09-25 10:11:19 AM  

Dancin_In_Anson: How many of you championed Wendy Davis?


For the most part, Wendy Davis stayed on topic.  Green Eggs and Ham has the exact opposite message as the one he's trying to convey.
 
2013-09-25 10:11:50 AM  

Karac: Aristocles: So? We're being held hostage by BOB and the dems. over 50% of Americans don't want Obamacare while about 42% support it. That's a minority controlling the majority, I seem to remember Farklibs warning about the dangers of this.

Please.  BOB, whoever he is, and the rest of the voices in your head certainly add up to a majority.


I think the GOP is afraid that once the ACA kicks in and actually starts working then voters will wonder what the fuss was all about.

I still don't understand why the republicans are so afraid of health care reform.
 
2013-09-25 10:11:58 AM  

I_C_Weener: Weaver95: Aristocles: Heliovdrake: Aristocles: Ted Cruz is a modern day Abolitionist. He and a handful of other freedom loving Patriots are fighting tooth and nail to Abolish Obamacare.

Aristocles, you need to go.

Teds little stand up routine here doesn't actually accomplish anything, it isn't even a real filibuster for christs sake.

Most of American has already decided to try the Green Eggs and Ham provided by the ACA.

In fact, we voted on it... twice on a national level.

The GoP has failed to do anything about it, 42 times now.

42 times...

failed.

So? We're being held hostage by BOB and the dems. over 50% of Americans don't want Obamacare while about 42% support it. That's a minority controlling the majority, I seem to remember Farklibs warning about the dangers of this.

Who is this bob person you keep talking about?

Barack OBama.  Its a version of shortening a name...for numerous reasons.  Like using W instead of President George W. Bush.  Some people think its funny and annoying.  Others think its annoying.  But both sides seem desperate to make it happen.


So, you're saying "Bob is not a meme" is a meme?
 
2013-09-25 10:12:06 AM  

GTATL: Wow, well i think i've figured out why you're a republican. Bless your heart. I'm sure that no one asking that actually knew what he meant by BOB.


I'm just amused by the people on both sides making it a thing.  Its like watching my kids argue over who is touching whom, then doing it to each other and then tattling on them.

A bit of an allegory about life really.  Keep up the good work.
 
2013-09-25 10:12:36 AM  
Aristocles:

So? We're being held hostage by BOB and the dems. over 50% of Americans don't want Obamacare while about 42% support it. That's a minority controlling the majority, I seem to remember Farklibs warning about the dangers of this.

So Cruz is also fighting for a gun registration, higher taxes on the wealthy and  other things that over 50% of Americans want?
 
2013-09-25 10:12:38 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: Dancin_In_Anson: He's reading something else now. Don't listen.

The Necronomicon? The Pnakotic Manuscripts? The King in Yellow?


The king in yellow was a good read, dammit!
 
2013-09-25 10:13:40 AM  

ManateeGag: Dancin_In_Anson: How many of you championed Wendy Davis?

For the most part, Wendy Davis stayed on topic.  Green Eggs and Ham has the exact opposite message as the one he's trying to convey.


Wendy Davis was also participating in a real fillibuster.
 
2013-09-25 10:14:51 AM  

Dancin_In_Anson: He's reading something else now. Don't listen.


Is he reading the Congressional Record, starting at a point one hour in the past, with the hope that he will create an infinite recursion that will crash the entire Federal Government?
 
2013-09-25 10:15:37 AM  

DirkValentine: Laugh Out Motherfarking Loud.


LOML?
 
2013-09-25 10:16:01 AM  

SordidEuphemism: So, you're saying "Bob is not a meme" is a meme?


Is Benghazi a scandal yet? style meme.
 
2013-09-25 10:16:15 AM  

I_C_Weener: GTATL: Wow, well i think i've figured out why you're a republican. Bless your heart. I'm sure that no one asking that actually knew what he meant by BOB.

I'm just amused by the people on both sides making it a thing.  Its like watching my kids argue over who is touching whom, then doing it to each other and then tattling on them.

A bit of an allegory about life really.  Keep up the good work.


Aw, bless your heart. You still haven't figured it out. Not that i expected you to understand most of the intelligent posters' purpose in asking that question.
 
2013-09-25 10:16:23 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: Dancin_In_Anson: He's reading something else now. Don't listen.

Is he reading the Congressional Record, starting at a point one hour in the past, with the hope that he will create an infinite recursion that will crash the entire Federal Government?


bluraymedia.ign.com
 
2013-09-25 10:16:25 AM  
Cruz just seems petty and to be grandstanding, he can't stop the ACA...it's a done deal. The GOP is going to have to accept that Obama won this fight.
 
2013-09-25 10:16:42 AM  

Aristocles: So? We're being held hostage by BOB and the dems. over 50% of Americans don't want Obamacare while about 42% support it. That's a minority controlling the majority, I seem to remember Farklibs warning about the dangers of this.


BOB is not a thing

Farklibs is not a thing

please, for the love of Jebus, come up with some new material.
 
2013-09-25 10:17:12 AM  

Dancin_In_Anson: He's reading something else now. Don't listen.


Still waiting to hear why this stunt impresses you. What is he accomplishing again? Futile political acts of stamina sure seem to make an impression on the feeble minded.

As my mother used to say, "little things amuse little minds".
 
2013-09-25 10:17:39 AM  

ManateeGag: Aristocles: So? We're being held hostage by BOB and the dems. over 50% of Americans don't want Obamacare while about 42% support it. That's a minority controlling the majority, I seem to remember Farklibs warning about the dangers of this.

BOB is not a thing

Farklibs is not a thing

please, for the love of Jebus, come up with some new material.


If he starts thinking up new material then he can't be a republican anymore.
 
2013-09-25 10:18:03 AM  

Weaver95: Prank Call of Cthulhu: Dancin_In_Anson: He's reading something else now. Don't listen.

The Necronomicon? The Pnakotic Manuscripts? The King in Yellow?

The king in yellow was a good read, dammit!


I did not care for Act II. It really drove me crazy.
 
2013-09-25 10:18:21 AM  

I_C_Weener: SordidEuphemism: So, you're saying "Bob is not a meme" is a meme?

Is Benghazi a scandal yet? style meme.


Leave me out of this.
 
2013-09-25 10:18:37 AM  

GTATL: I_C_Weener: GTATL: Wow, well i think i've figured out why you're a republican. Bless your heart. I'm sure that no one asking that actually knew what he meant by BOB.

I'm just amused by the people on both sides making it a thing.  Its like watching my kids argue over who is touching whom, then doing it to each other and then tattling on them.

A bit of an allegory about life really.  Keep up the good work.

Aw, bless your heart. You still haven't figured it out. Not that i expected you to understand most of the intelligent posters' purpose in asking that question.


ok.
 
2013-09-25 10:20:25 AM  
a3.img.talkingpointsmemo.com
 
2013-09-25 10:22:08 AM  

InmanRoshi: somedude210: kronicfeld: "Filibustering" a bill that became law forty-two months ago should really go a long way to combat the perception that Republicans are a bunch of purposeless obstructionists living in the past.

Technically, it's not a filibuster. It's a "talk to delay the inevitable procedural vote because I'm an attention whore" type thing

And a "Go head, I'd love for you to draw more attention to yourself and further cement your status as the face and voice of the current GOP" type thing by by Reid.


And if the Dems decide to fight, this provides them with even more primary source material.

Wanna show that the Republicans are obstructionist assholes? Show Ted's stunt.

Wanna show that the Republicans are childish? Show Ted's stunt.

Wanna show that Republicans miss the point of the story? Show Ted's stunt.

Why he thought this was a good idea is beyond me.
 
2013-09-25 10:22:27 AM  

InmanRoshi: Aristocles:

So? We're being held hostage by BOB and the dems. over 50% of Americans don't want Obamacare while about 42% support it. That's a minority controlling the majority, I seem to remember Farklibs warning about the dangers of this.

So Cruz is also fighting for a gun registration, higher taxes on the wealthy and  other things that over 50% of Americans want?


Yeah but those aren't real Americans that want those things.

Study it out.
 
2013-09-25 10:22:44 AM  

ManateeGag: Aristocles: So? We're being held hostage by BOB and the dems. over 50% of Americans don't want Obamacare while about 42% support it. That's a minority controlling the majority, I seem to remember Farklibs warning about the dangers of this.

BOB is not a thing

Farklibs is not a thing

please, for the love of Jebus, come up with some new material.


Maybe they should be.

Drew woke up in a [adjective] mood.  His [noun] had [past-tense verb] all over one of the servers, destroying the [Category] Tab.  There was much [verb ending in -ing].
 
2013-09-25 10:25:45 AM  
So it sounds like the GOP needs to use some...
(•_•)
( •_•)>⌐■-■
(⌐■_■)
Cruze control.

/YEEEEAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!
 
2013-09-25 10:27:26 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: Weaver95: Prank Call of Cthulhu: Dancin_In_Anson: He's reading something else now. Don't listen.

The Necronomicon? The Pnakotic Manuscripts? The King in Yellow?

The king in yellow was a good read, dammit!

I did not care for Act II. It really drove me crazy.


I dunno. I laughed and laughed and laughed....
 
2013-09-25 10:27:48 AM  

I_C_Weener: Like using W instead of President George W. Bush.


But W made sense.  since it was his middle initial and we had another George Bush as president.
 
2013-09-25 10:27:50 AM  

I_C_Weener: GTATL: I_C_Weener: GTATL: Wow, well i think i've figured out why you're a republican. Bless your heart. I'm sure that no one asking that actually knew what he meant by BOB.

I'm just amused by the people on both sides making it a thing.  Its like watching my kids argue over who is touching whom, then doing it to each other and then tattling on them.

A bit of an allegory about life really.  Keep up the good work.

Aw, bless your heart. You still haven't figured it out. Not that i expected you to understand most of the intelligent posters' purpose in asking that question.

ok.


Your first smart post. Please try to explain other farkers' motivations again, it's quite insightful.

For the record: Ted Cruz is the definition of an attention whore. His entire purpose has nothing to do with opposing to Obamacare. He just wants to shore up the primary base with something they think matters.

Ladies and gentlemen, the republican party, AKA "the easiest to pander to" party.

Also, there's no way he's not genuine in everything he says, hes not from some ivy league elitist school.
 
2013-09-25 10:27:54 AM  
Still pretend filibustering his own party's bill?

Fun.
 
2013-09-25 10:28:19 AM  

SixPaperJoint: InmanRoshi: somedude210: kronicfeld: "Filibustering" a bill that became law forty-two months ago should really go a long way to combat the perception that Republicans are a bunch of purposeless obstructionists living in the past.

Technically, it's not a filibuster. It's a "talk to delay the inevitable procedural vote because I'm an attention whore" type thing

And a "Go head, I'd love for you to draw more attention to yourself and further cement your status as the face and voice of the current GOP" type thing by by Reid.

And if the Dems decide to fight, this provides them with even more primary source material.

Wanna show that the Republicans are obstructionist assholes? Show Ted's stunt.

Wanna show that the Republicans are childish? Show Ted's stunt.

Wanna show that Republicans miss the point of the story? Show Ted's stunt.

Why he thought this was a good idea is beyond me.


Because he knows his audience (see thread) and this was about his personal profile the entire time.
 
2013-09-25 10:28:31 AM  

theknuckler_33: Still waiting to hear why this stunt impresses you.


Annoyed libs.
 
2013-09-25 10:30:13 AM  

Maud Dib: MattStafford: God, the stuff that I would read if I was filibustering.

 "50 Shades of Potato"...??


"how the economy of the united states is exactly like the economy of an american family" by no economist ever.
 
2013-09-25 10:30:59 AM  

ManateeGag: I_C_Weener: Like using W instead of President George W. Bush.

But W made sense.  since it was his middle initial and we had another George Bush as president.


BO makes sense.  So does BOB.  People complaining about this in a world where "text speak" is acceptable need to get over it.  Of course some of those complaining think Obamacare is a bad word and complained when Mr. Obama was elected if people didn't post with a full President Barack Obama.  It was somehow offensive to shorten it to Obama.

Its a silly little fight between two Fark factions over...pretty much "stop touching me".
 
2013-09-25 10:31:31 AM  

I_C_Weener: GTATL: Wow, well i think i've figured out why you're a republican. Bless your heart. I'm sure that no one asking that actually knew what he meant by BOB.

I'm just amused by the people on both sides making it a thing.  Its like watching my kids argue over who is touching whom, then doing it to each other and then tattling on them.

A bit of an allegory about life really.  Keep up the good work.


No, this is more like one kid sticking pennies up his nose, and another kid saying "why are you doing that? That's stupid."
 
2013-09-25 10:31:56 AM  

The Homer Tax: Still pretend filibustering his own party's bill?

Fun.


it apparently worked...DIA seemed pretty impressed.
Why? I have no idea (speak up DIA), but somehow this got Cruz points with the infromed crowd.
 
2013-09-25 10:33:54 AM  

Weaver95: Karac: Aristocles: So? We're being held hostage by BOB and the dems. over 50% of Americans don't want Obamacare while about 42% support it. That's a minority controlling the majority, I seem to remember Farklibs warning about the dangers of this.

Please.  BOB, whoever he is, and the rest of the voices in your head certainly add up to a majority.

I think the GOP is afraid that once the ACA kicks in and actually starts working then voters will wonder what the fuss was all about.

I still don't understand why the republicans are so afraid of health care reform.


For the GOP, it's not health care reform itself, although lots of big money is pushing this. It's just that this is their BIG ISSUE of the moment. Once ACA in place and people realize that it really is better, they'll immediately move on to something else and hope their base doesn't remember all the awful things they said were going to happen.

Similarly, if Obama built the Keystone Pipeline and the oil started flowing today, everybody would see that it didn't create 200,000 permanent high paying jobs and didn't balance the Federal Budget in one day after all. They'd quietly slink away and remove as many references to their hyperbole as possible before starting some new rant against the Libruls.
 
2013-09-25 10:34:47 AM  
You do not like Obamacare.
SO you say.
Try it! Try it!
And you may.
Try it and you may I say.

Obama!
If you will let me be,
I will try it.
You will see.

Say!
I like Obamacare!
I do!! I like them, Obama
And I will have health care in a boat!
And I will have health care with a goat...
And I will have health care in the rain.
And in the dark. And on a train.
And in a car. And in a tree.
It's so good so good you see!

So I will have health care in a box.
And I will have health care with a fox.
And I will have health care in a house.
And I will have health care with a mouse.
And I will have health care here and there.
Say! I will have health care ANYWHERE!

I do so like
Obamacare
Thank you!
Thank you,
Obama

I do so like
Obamacare!
Thank you!
Thank you,
Obama
 
2013-09-25 10:34:58 AM  

unexplained bacon: The Homer Tax: Still pretend filibustering his own party's bill?

Fun.

it apparently worked...DIA seemed pretty impressed.
Why? I have no idea (speak up DIA), but somehow this got Cruz points with the infromed crowd.


He did explain it, though the rationale only works if you actually believe the crap Cruz is spewing about the ACA.
 
2013-09-25 10:37:41 AM  

theknuckler_33: Still waiting to hear why this stunt impresses you. What is he accomplishing again? Futile political acts of stamina sure seem to make an impression on the feeble minded.


it's no more complex than "stickin it to the libs"

remember who you are talking about
 
2013-09-25 10:40:15 AM  
It seems that a fake filibuster is going to be a new right of passage for GOP congresspeople with presidential ambitions. Who will be next to hold a fake filibuster?
 
2013-09-25 10:42:06 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: unexplained bacon: The Homer Tax: Still pretend filibustering his own party's bill?

Fun.

it apparently worked...DIA seemed pretty impressed.
Why? I have no idea (speak up DIA), but somehow this got Cruz points with the infromed crowd.

He did explain it, though the rationale only works if you actually believe the crap Cruz is spewing about the ACA.


he can try to twist that around but the obvious allegory here I think would be more like:

ACA = green eggs and ham
Cruz = the kid who wont try the ACA
Obama = the guy assuring him it's actually a good thing

as we all know, in the story Obama is right and Cruz ends up face down in his ham.

How do these line up in his explanation anyway?
some awful convoluted mash up that requires a suspension of brain activity?
 
2013-09-25 10:42:47 AM  
i1.cpcache.com
 
2013-09-25 10:43:40 AM  

I_C_Weener: ManateeGag: I_C_Weener: Like using W instead of President George W. Bush.

But W made sense.  since it was his middle initial and we had another George Bush as president.

BO makes sense.  So does BOB.  People complaining about this in a world where "text speak" is acceptable need to get over it.  Of course some of those complaining think Obamacare is a bad word and complained when Mr. Obama was elected if people didn't post with a full President Barack Obama.  It was somehow offensive to shorten it to Obama.

Its a silly little fight between two Fark factions over...pretty much "stop touching me".


Again, I understand why you are a republican. You don't understand the point in the question at all. Period. Do not pass go. It's not about disrespect or text speak. Try again.

Can you really not guess the reason behind asking a troll a question?
 
2013-09-25 10:47:22 AM  

Thrag: It seems that a fake filibuster is going to be a new right of passage for GOP congresspeople with presidential ambitions. Who will be next to hold a fake filibuster?


The GOP loves big, showy guestures that don't actually accomplish anything but really "look" like they do.

Like building a wall to solve the illegal immigration problem
 
2013-09-25 10:53:49 AM  
Poor guy, his girlfriends corporation is cutting funding because... they're allowed to. Damn capitalism.
 
2013-09-25 10:58:54 AM  

Rapmaster2000: It's really a perfect choice.

Sam:  "I've never had green eggs and ham, but I know I don't like them".
Cruz:  "I've never had Obamacare, but I know I don't like it."


We don't know what is in the bill.  The right thing to do is to pass it and burden the people with it.

By the way people, no matter how many times you repeat it on the internet, being against Obamacare is not the same as wanting poor people to die.
 
2013-09-25 11:02:20 AM  

SlothB77: Rapmaster2000: It's really a perfect choice.

Sam:  "I've never had green eggs and ham, but I know I don't like them".
Cruz:  "I've never had Obamacare, but I know I don't like it."

We don't know what is in the bill. The right thing to do is to pass it and burden the people with it.

By the way people, no matter how many times you repeat it on the internet, being against Obamacare is not the same as wanting poor people to die.


without a hint of irony
 
2013-09-25 11:02:27 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: unexplained bacon: The Homer Tax: Still pretend filibustering his own party's bill?

Fun.

it apparently worked...DIA seemed pretty impressed.
Why? I have no idea (speak up DIA), but somehow this got Cruz points with the infromed crowd.

He did explain it, though the rationale only works if you actually believe the crap Cruz is spewing about the ACA.


As best I can tell, the only explanation he's offered is "WENDY DAVIS!"
 
2013-09-25 11:04:02 AM  

SlothB77: as wanting poor people to die.


but the poor people can't afford health insurance because they're spending their money on food, clothing and shelter. Surely, it's within our best interests as a nation to make sure that our poorest citizens have the ability to be treated for their medical needs and not have to worry about going bankrupt? We are the richest, most powerful nation in the world, and yet we treat our poor like shiat. Surely, we can do better and must do better and this is but one step to make the lives better for not just the poorest Americans, but all Americans
 
2013-09-25 11:04:11 AM  

SlothB77: Rapmaster2000: It's really a perfect choice.

Sam:  "I've never had green eggs and ham, but I know I don't like them".
Cruz:  "I've never had Obamacare, but I know I don't like it."

We don't know what is in the bill.


What's this "we" business? If you don't know now it's because you don't want to.

By the way people, no matter how many times you repeat it on the internet, being against Obamacare is not the same as wanting poor people to die.

Well when the only alternative you can offer is "lets go back to when poor people couldn't access health insurance and would frequently die from easily curable conditions", the optics get difficult to manage.
 
2013-09-25 11:05:04 AM  

SlothB77: We don't know what is in the bill


So read it. It's not that long, shorter than "Atlas Shrugged". It's not our fault you are lazy.
 
2013-09-25 11:07:58 AM  

SlothB77: Rapmaster2000: It's really a perfect choice.

Sam:  "I've never had green eggs and ham, but I know I don't like them".
Cruz:  "I've never had Obamacare, but I know I don't like it."

We don't know what is in the bill.  The right thing to do is to pass it and burden the people with it.

By the way people, no matter how many times you repeat it on the internet, being against Obamacare is not the same as wanting poor people to die.



can you arrange this to help us understand what point Cruz was going for here?

ACA = green eggs and ham
Cruz = the kid who wont try the ACA
Obama = the guy assuring him it's actually a good thing

serious question.
 
2013-09-25 11:08:00 AM  

SlothB77: Rapmaster2000: It's really a perfect choice.

Sam:  "I've never had green eggs and ham, but I know I don't like them".
Cruz:  "I've never had Obamacare, but I know I don't like it."

We don't know what is in the bill.  The right thing to do is to pass it and burden the people with it.

By the way people, no matter how many times you repeat it on the internet, being against Obamacare is not the same as wanting poor people to die.


So what you're saying is, if they'd rather die than pull themselves up by their bootstraps, then they had better do it and decrease the surplus population.
 
2013-09-25 11:11:08 AM  
Sometimes I wonder if the GOP ever stops to consider the inherent contradictions in their ideology and policy positions.
 
2013-09-25 11:12:09 AM  
Ahoy hoy Dick Durbin, makin' some points on the floor.
 
2013-09-25 11:12:19 AM  

somedude210: SlothB77: as wanting poor people to die.

but the poor people can't afford health insurance because they're spending their money on food, clothing and shelter. Surely, it's within our best interests as a nation to make sure that our poorest citizens have the ability to be treated for their medical needs and not have to worry about going bankrupt? We are the richest, most powerful nation in the world, and yet we treat our poor like shiat. Surely, we can do better and must do better and this is but one step to make the lives better for not just the poorest Americans, but all Americans


But..but the poors get to go to the emergency room for free!
 
2013-09-25 11:12:42 AM  
Let's point out another ironic thing thing: he is filibustering the bill that DEFUNDS Obamacare. The bill he demanded the house to pass.
 
2013-09-25 11:13:14 AM  

SlothB77: We don't know what is in the bill.


This is still a thing?
 
2013-09-25 11:13:15 AM  

somedude210: SlothB77: as wanting poor people to die.

but the poor people can't afford health insurance because they're spending their money on food, clothing and shelter. Surely, it's within our best interests as a nation to make sure that our poorest citizens have the ability to be treated for their medical needs and not have to worry about going bankrupt? We are the richest, most powerful nation in the world, and yet we treat our poor like shiat. Surely, we can do better and must do better and this is but one step to make the lives better for not just the poorest Americans, but all Americans


Poor people deserve to be poor. Rich people deserve to be rich. Any attempts to correct for desert are billions of times more immoral than systematically exterminating people because of their religion.
 
2013-09-25 11:13:44 AM  
Someone I always wanted to see filibuster but never did is John Kerry, because the question in that case is not whether or not he could make it through the filibuster but whether or not everyone else could.

That right there would be the Democrats' secret weapon.

"Pass the bill, or we filibuster."
"You'll filibuster your own bill?"
"We'll have Kerry do it."
"Dear GOD! That's inhuman! We'll pass! We'll pass! Anything but that!"
 
2013-09-25 11:16:05 AM  
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player, that struts and frets his hour upon the stage, and then is heard no more; it is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.


farm6.staticflickr.com
 
2013-09-25 11:17:52 AM  
Hmm, didn't realize FEHB paid 72% in.
 
2013-09-25 11:22:38 AM  

PanicMan: Dancin_In_Anson: 17 hours. Wow! Good on him!

But what has he accomplished? What would have been different if he'd been playing World of Warcraft for the past 17 hours instead?


He would have leveled up.
 
2013-09-25 11:23:00 AM  
Go, Durbin, Go!

/thought I'd stay on the Dr. Seuss theme
 
2013-09-25 11:30:15 AM  

Corvus: Let's point out another ironic thing thing: he is filibustering the bill that DEFUNDS Obamacare. The bill he demanded the house to pass.


Let's point out another ironic thing: what he's doing isn't a filibuster. There's going to be a procedural vote on the CR regardless.
 
2013-09-25 11:31:56 AM  
He'll have to stop talking in a half hour when the Senate reconvenes.
 
2013-09-25 11:36:59 AM  
Poor Cruz, Reid just pissed in his cheerios.
 
2013-09-25 11:37:50 AM  

theknuckler_33: SlothB77: We don't know what is in the bill.

This is still a thing?


Yes according to the GOP the Devil wrote the bill and it's written in some sort of evil language so no one can read it. At least that's the only thing I can guess they believe.

When I repeatedly ask them how the committee that took months writing the bill originally could not know what was in it or how the congress who had months to read it don't know what was in it they seem never to respond to my question.
 
2013-09-25 11:38:08 AM  

Corvus: Let's point out another ironic thing thing: he is filibustering the bill that DEFUNDS Obamacare. The bill he demanded the house to pass.


Well he only had to do that because Reid tricked him by following long-established Senate rules.
 
2013-09-25 11:38:23 AM  

MmmCrime: Hmm, didn't realize FEHB paid 72% in.


It's more complicated than that. The government either kicks in 75% of the premium or 72% of the weighted average of the premiums across the entire FEHB, whichever is less. The second part basically functions as a cap on the government contribution.
 
2013-09-25 11:40:18 AM  
Daily Show / Colbert Report should be good tonight.
 
2013-09-25 11:40:21 AM  
Hahaha he just had to admit that he has a deadline to he speech and that the "Until I can't stand" was a lie.
 
2013-09-25 11:41:30 AM  
This is funny, he has no farking idea what senate rules are. If you can watch, watch now.
 
2013-09-25 11:42:29 AM  

Corvus: Hahaha he just had to admit that he has a deadline to he speech and that the "Until I can't stand" was a lie.


Bingo, seemed that Reid wanted to prove the point that his "friend" wouldn't go on any longer and in fact wasn't filibustering.
 
2013-09-25 11:42:41 AM  
Hahaha he is explaining to Republicans that this really doesn't do anything at all.

Republicans are calling him out.
 
2013-09-25 11:42:49 AM  

Corvus: Hahaha he just had to admit that he has a deadline to he speech and that the "Until I can't stand" was a lie.


Yeah, he basically just stood up there and talked while everyone went home.  He isn't filibustering shiat, he's droning on at an empty room and has to go sit down when the adults come back.
 
Ant
2013-09-25 11:42:58 AM  

CheapEngineer: Aw - Isn't that sweet? He reads to his children!



I think this is one of those things you're supposed to do anyway.
 
2013-09-25 11:43:06 AM  

Corvus: Hahaha he just had to admit that he has a deadline to he speech and that the "Until I can't stand" was a lie.


Amazing.

So Ted Cruz realizes that after he isn't nominated, he has to go back to being a Senator, and that means being re-elected if he wants to keep his job, right? He doesn't keep this gig by fiat for slaking the rubes' thirst for derp.
 
2013-09-25 11:43:33 AM  

I_C_Weener: Barack OBama. Its a version of shortening a name...for numerous reasons. Like using W instead of President George W. Bush.


Exactly. The use of 'W' by President George W Bush and his campaign staff on officially licensed products to distinguish himself from the similarly named President George H W Bush is identical to some guy on the internet picking some letters to make up a new name for no reason and using it extensively to try to create a meme. Er, I meant numerous reasons, not 'no reason'. Some of the many reasons to make up the new name include: [**remember to put reasons here before commenting**]. I mean, just look at all those reasons.

I_C_Weener: BO makes sense. So does BOB. People complaining about this in a world where "text speak" is acceptable need to get over it. Of course some of those complaining think Obamacare is a bad word and complained when Mr. Obama was elected if people didn't post with a full President Barack Obama.


Again, I agree. BOB makes perfect sense as it fulfills the important role of keeping discussion on the topic of nicknames for the president instead of whatever the article happens to be about. I mean I guess what I'm trying to say is that the most important thing to remember here is "both sides are bad", even when you're facetiously comparing two names made up by the same 'side' to justify what many people are (unjustly, obviously) calling blatant threadjacking.
 
2013-09-25 11:44:04 AM  
Well, at least we now know that he can read at a second grade level.
 
2013-09-25 11:44:15 AM  

MmmCrime: Corvus: Hahaha he just had to admit that he has a deadline to he speech and that the "Until I can't stand" was a lie.

Bingo, seemed that Reid wanted to prove the point that his "friend" wouldn't go on any longer and in fact wasn't filibustering.


Now he is explaining to Jeff Sessions R that this really does nothing. This is embarrassing.
 
2013-09-25 11:45:00 AM  

Dancin_In_Anson: 17 hours. Wow! Good on him!


a fake filibuster. how appropriate.
 
2013-09-25 11:45:02 AM  

James!: Corvus: Hahaha he just had to admit that he has a deadline to he speech and that the "Until I can't stand" was a lie.

Yeah, he basically just stood up there and talked while everyone went home.  He isn't filibustering shiat, he's droning on at an empty room and has to go sit down when the adults come back.


He'll get murdered in the primary if any other GOP'er just runs those images, of him non-filibustering to an empty room, and then Sen. Reid saying, "Now, now, Ted, move along, we're about to do grown-up work here."
 
2013-09-25 11:45:09 AM  

James!: He'll have to stop talking in a half hour when the Senate reconvenes.


So this whole stunt is essentially the equivalent of me asking my boss if I can sit behind his desk and make important decisions as long as the shop is closed and I have to scram when he comes back in the morning.

Brilliant. Conservatives have decided to run their own separate Congress where they get to win because NO DEMOCRATS ALLOWED. We should charge them for renting out the Capitol.
 
2013-09-25 11:45:20 AM  

James!: Corvus: Hahaha he just had to admit that he has a deadline to he speech and that the "Until I can't stand" was a lie.

Yeah, he basically just stood up there and talked while everyone went home.  He isn't filibustering shiat, he's droning on at an empty room and has to go sit down when the adults come back.


What's amusing is the adults came back (Republicans and Democrats) and saying "Ok you had your fun, now go be stupid somewhere else".
 
2013-09-25 11:47:09 AM  
Senator Mike Lee has claimed that the "American People" "stood up" to advocate a defunding of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. At what time did that occur?
 
2013-09-25 11:47:51 AM  

Corvus: James!: Corvus: Hahaha he just had to admit that he has a deadline to he speech and that the "Until I can't stand" was a lie.

Yeah, he basically just stood up there and talked while everyone went home.  He isn't filibustering shiat, he's droning on at an empty room and has to go sit down when the adults come back.

What's amusing is the adults came back (Republicans and Democrats) and saying "Ok you had your fun, now go be stupid somewhere else".


At least this way he can fark off with his binkie and take a nap so he can abstain from the voting.
 
2013-09-25 11:47:52 AM  
I love how Republican congressmen act like an "all-nighter" is like the toughest anyone has worked ever.

They really have no clue what life for normal people is like.
 
2013-09-25 11:47:56 AM  

Darth Macho: So this whole stunt is essentially the equivalent of me asking my boss if I can sit behind his desk and make important decisions as long as the shop is closed and I have to scram when he comes back in the morning.


"Only if you don't write any of them down and nobody finds out"
"Well I am going to film myself yelling at puppets for a few hours and put it on youtube"
"Sounds embarrassing, but go ahead."
 
2013-09-25 11:49:07 AM  
Am I alone in believing that Senator Cruz resembles a wigless drag queen?
 
2013-09-25 11:49:08 AM  
LOL! Teddy doesn't understand the rules! Pathetic.
 
2013-09-25 11:50:12 AM  

Dancin_In_Anson: Don't listen.


Judging  from the replies it would seem that most if not all of you took my advice.
 
2013-09-25 11:52:06 AM  

Dancin_In_Anson: Dancin_In_Anson: Don't listen.

Judging  from the replies it would seem that most if not all of you took my advice.


media.tumblr.com
 
2013-09-25 11:52:07 AM  

Dimensio: Senator Mike Lee has claimed that the "American People" "stood up" to advocate a defunding of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. At what time did that occur?


I dunno, but it sure wasn't during any of the times they were asked about it by numerous polling agencies that consistently showed a majority of Americans oppose defunding the law.
 
2013-09-25 11:52:09 AM  

Corvus: Hahaha he is explaining to Republicans that this really doesn't do anything at all.

Republicans are calling him out.


I wish they would [insert pretty much any other action verb] him out instead.
 
2013-09-25 11:53:04 AM  
Good news is, if it's not a legitimate filibuster, there are ways to shut the whole thing down.

/recycled from the last thread
 
2013-09-25 11:54:35 AM  

russlar: Good news is, if it's not a legitimate filibuster, there are ways to shut the whole thing down.

/recycled from the last thread


Well played.
 
2013-09-25 11:55:44 AM  
Five minutes remain. Will Senator Cruz acknowledge Senate rules, or will he attempt to imply -- dishonestly -- that Senator Reid has circumvented typical Senate procedure?
 
2013-09-25 11:56:57 AM  
There's something about Ted Cruz's face that makes it looks like it's a rubber mask. I can't help but expect that one day on the floor of the senate he will open his collar, reach down just below his neck, and in one sweeping motion pull the mask off to reveal he's really Andy Kaufman.
 
2013-09-25 11:57:24 AM  

Dancin_In_Anson: Dancin_In_Anson: Don't listen.

Judging  from the replies it would seem that most if not all of you took my advice.


Some of us have jobs, man.

Tell us what gems we missed, we were all hoping you were taking notes.
 
2013-09-25 11:57:25 AM  

doubled99: This is a very brave man going to heroic lengths to save this country.


It's a sad when it becomes impossible to tell the difference between a serious comment or satire,
 
2013-09-25 11:58:24 AM  

James!: Dancin_In_Anson: Dancin_In_Anson: Don't listen.

Judging  from the replies it would seem that most if not all of you took my advice.

[media.tumblr.com image 500x333]


Bravo
 
2013-09-25 11:58:41 AM  
Senator Cruz will be on Rush Limbaugh at 1 PM. I suppose that means he won't be in the cloture vote to record a no?
 
2013-09-25 11:59:59 AM  

MmmCrime: Senator Cruz will be on Rush Limbaugh at 1 PM. I suppose that means he won't be in the cloture vote to record a no?


He can't even vote "Present" if he's not there.
 
2013-09-25 12:00:01 PM  

Dimensio: Five minutes remain. Will Senator Cruz acknowledge Senate rules, or will he attempt to imply -- dishonestly -- that Senator Reid has circumvented typical Senate procedure?


Ha already admitted to Reid that there was a cut off about 15mins ago. But Reid explained to him it was 1pm not noon.

He and said "he was wrapping it up" showing his "Until I drop" was total BS.
 
2013-09-25 12:00:14 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: Dancin_In_Anson: Dancin_In_Anson: Don't listen.

Judging  from the replies it would seem that most if not all of you took my advice.

Some of us have jobs, man.

Tell us what gems we missed, we were all hoping you were taking notes.


Senator Cruz repeatedly reiterated that the citizens of the United States of America have consistently asked Congress to defund the Patient Protection Affordable Care Act. He did not, however, identify the method that he utilized to unskew survey data.
 
2013-09-25 12:01:23 PM  
Appropriately, the Republican plan for health care access to the poor is "pray".
 
2013-09-25 12:01:44 PM  

Corvus: Dimensio: Five minutes remain. Will Senator Cruz acknowledge Senate rules, or will he attempt to imply -- dishonestly -- that Senator Reid has circumvented typical Senate procedure?

Ha already admitted to Reid that there was a cut off about 15mins ago. But Reid explained to him it was 1pm not noon.

He and said "he was wrapping it up" showing his "Until I drop" was total BS.


He said they had to do the prayer but then he could ramble on until 1pm. It's funny because he is trying to look like he is fighting people but really he looks like a child.
 
2013-09-25 12:03:42 PM  

Dimensio: HotWingConspiracy: Dancin_In_Anson: Dancin_In_Anson: Don't listen.

Judging  from the replies it would seem that most if not all of you took my advice.

Some of us have jobs, man.

Tell us what gems we missed, we were all hoping you were taking notes.

Senator Cruz repeatedly reiterated that the citizens of the United States of America have consistently asked Congress to defund the Patient Protection Affordable Care Act. He did not, however, identify the method that he utilized to unskew survey data.


He'd have been better off with his wigless drag routine, as you pointed out. But then I guess nobody would take him seriously, like everyone does now.
 
2013-09-25 12:04:28 PM  
Anyone else gonna continue watching/listening to CSPAN the rest of the day to see how the vote goes? Could be fun.
 
2013-09-25 12:08:02 PM  

MmmCrime: Anyone else gonna continue watching/listening to CSPAN the rest of the day to see how the vote goes? Could be fun.


I must provide service for two malfunctioning computers in a call center, eat, and take my automobile to a service center for an oil change. Unfortunately, I will be forced to miss much of the riveting oration of Senator Reid.
 
2013-09-25 12:09:24 PM  

sprawl15: I_C_Weener: Barack OBama. Its a version of shortening a name...for numerous reasons. Like using W instead of President George W. Bush.

Exactly. The use of 'W' by President George W Bush and his campaign staff on officially licensed products to distinguish himself from the similarly named President George H W Bush is identical to some guy on the internet picking some letters to make up a new name for no reason and using it extensively to try to create a meme. Er, I meant numerous reasons, not 'no reason'. Some of the many reasons to make up the new name include: [**remember to put reasons here before commenting**]. I mean, just look at all those reasons.

I_C_Weener: BO makes sense. So does BOB. People complaining about this in a world where "text speak" is acceptable need to get over it. Of course some of those complaining think Obamacare is a bad word and complained when Mr. Obama was elected if people didn't post with a full President Barack Obama.

Again, I agree. BOB makes perfect sense as it fulfills the important role of keeping discussion on the topic of nicknames for the president instead of whatever the article happens to be about. I mean I guess what I'm trying to say is that the most important thing to remember here is "both sides are bad", even when you're facetiously comparing two names made up by the same 'side' to justify what many people are (unjustly, obviously) calling blatant threadjacking.


So...point proven I guess.
 
2013-09-25 12:09:59 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: Dancin_In_Anson: Dancin_In_Anson: Don't listen.

Judging  from the replies it would seem that most if not all of you took my advice.

Some of us have jobs, man.

Tell us what gems we missed, we were all hoping you were taking notes.


Sen. Mike Lee discussed a childhood accident in which his foot was run over by a car driven by his father and spoke of his longing to be a pirate. Cruz recalled his first Christmas dinner with his future wife's vegetarian parents, which he described as "just like any other Christmas dinner except the entree never comes."
 
2013-09-25 12:10:48 PM  

MmmCrime: Anyone else gonna continue watching/listening to CSPAN the rest of the day to see how the vote goes? Could be fun.


I'm gonna listen! I have a kid, home sick, asleep on the couch, I'm not going anywhere!
 
2013-09-25 12:11:18 PM  

Dimensio: Am I alone in believing that Senator Cruz resembles a wigless drag queen?


There is something odd about his face.  I can't put my finger on it.
 
2013-09-25 12:12:41 PM  

Corvus: Dimensio: Five minutes remain. Will Senator Cruz acknowledge Senate rules, or will he attempt to imply -- dishonestly -- that Senator Reid has circumvented typical Senate procedure?

Ha already admitted to Reid that there was a cut off about 15mins ago. But Reid explained to him it was 1pm not noon.


He probably said to himself, "Oh shiat. Another hour?!?!".
 
2013-09-25 12:13:53 PM  

Mistymtnhop: MmmCrime: Anyone else gonna continue watching/listening to CSPAN the rest of the day to see how the vote goes? Could be fun.

I'm gonna listen! I have a kid, home sick, asleep on the couch, I'm not going anywhere!


Okay, I'm afraid I spoke too soon, I can't listen to Turtle man. I'll flip it back soon as he's done.
 
2013-09-25 12:20:55 PM  

Mistymtnhop: Mistymtnhop: MmmCrime: Anyone else gonna continue watching/listening to CSPAN the rest of the day to see how the vote goes? Could be fun.

I'm gonna listen! I have a kid, home sick, asleep on the couch, I'm not going anywhere!

Okay, I'm afraid I spoke too soon, I can't listen to Turtle man. I'll flip it back soon as he's done.


Gotta take the good with the bad sir, there are both great and poor orators on both sides. But Dickie D is up now, reppin' the crookedest state in the land. It's all good.
 
2013-09-25 12:24:46 PM  
Is Senator Sessions (R-Alabama) unaware that Senator Scott Brown was not re-elected in 2012, undermining Mr. Session's use of Mr. Brown's election as a popular referendum on the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act?
 
2013-09-25 12:27:56 PM  

Dimensio: Appropriately, the Republican plan for health care access to the poor is "pray".


...and hope we all die young.
 
2013-09-25 12:28:09 PM  

Dimensio: Is Senator Sessions (R-Alabama) unaware that Senator Scott Brown was not re-elected in 2012, undermining Mr. Session's use of Mr. Brown's election as a popular referendum on the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act?


god, I can only hope that Warren steps up next :D
 
2013-09-25 12:39:09 PM  
hot damn, the comments on CSPAN are worse than the ones here:

"Douche alert #McCain is speaking for the #Democrats NOT for Americans! #DefundObamacare "
 
2013-09-25 12:39:53 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: Tell us what gems we missed


This is what he read:

Dear Leader Reid and Leader Pelosi:
When you and the President sought our support for the Affordable Care Act (ACA), you pledged that if we liked the health plans we have now, we could keep them. Sadly, that promise is under threat. Right now, unless you and the Obama Administration enact an equitable fix, the ACA will shatter not only our hard-earned health benefits, but destroy the foundation of the 40 hour work week that is the backbone of the American middle class.
Like millions of other Americans, our members are front-line workers in the American economy. We have been strong supporters of the notion that all Americans should have access to quality, affordable health care. We have also been strong supporters of you. In campaign after campaign we have put boots on the ground, gone door-to-door to get out the vote, run phone banks and raised money to secure this vision.
Now this vision has come back to haunt us.
Since the ACA was enacted, we have been bringing our deep concerns to the Administration, seeking reasonable regulatory interpretations to the statute that would help prevent the destruction of non-profit health plans. As you both know first-hand, our persuasive arguments have been disregarded and met with a stone wall by the White House and the pertinent agencies. This is especially stinging because other stakeholders have repeatedly received successful interpretations for their respective grievances. Most disconcerting of course is last week's huge accommodation for the employer community-extending the statutorily mandated "December 31, 2013" deadline for the employer mandate and penalties.
Time is running out: Congress wrote this law; we voted for you. We have a problem; you need to fix it. The unintended consequences of the ACA are severe. Perverse incentives are already creating nightmare scenarios:
First, the law creates an incentive for employers to keep employees' work hours below 30 hours a week. Numerous employers have begun to cut workers' hours to avoid this obligation, and many of them are doing so openly. The impact is two-fold: fewer hours means less pay while also losing our current health benefits.

Second, millions of Americans are covered by non-profit health insurance plans like the ones in which most of our members participate. These non-profit plans are governed jointly by unions and companies under the Taft-Hartley Act. Our health plans have been built over decades by working men and women. Under the ACA as interpreted by the Administration, our employees will treated differently and not be eligible for subsidies afforded other citizens. As such, many employees will be relegated to second-class status and shut out of the help the law offers to for-profit insurance plans.
And finally, even though non-profit plans like ours won't receive the same subsidies as for-profit plans, they'll be taxed to pay for those subsidies. Taken together, these restrictions will make non-profit plans like ours unsustainable, and will undermine the health-care market of viable alternatives to the big health insurance companies.
On behalf of the millions of working men and women we represent and the families they support, we can no longer stand silent in the face of elements of the Affordable Care Act that will destroy the very health and wellbeing of our members along with millions of other hardworking Americans.
We believe that there are common-sense corrections that can be made within the existing statute that will allow our members to continue to keep their current health plans and benefits just as you and the President pledged. Unless changes are made, however, that promise is hollow.
We continue to stand behind real health care reform, but the law as it stands will hurt millions of Americans including the members of our respective unions.
We are looking to you to make sure these changes are made.
James P. Hoffa
General President
International Brotherhood of Teamsters
Joseph Hansen
International President
UFCW
D. Taylor
President
UNITE-HERE
 
2013-09-25 12:40:20 PM  

Dimensio: HotWingConspiracy: Dancin_In_Anson: Dancin_In_Anson: Don't listen.

Judging  from the replies it would seem that most if not all of you took my advice.

Some of us have jobs, man.

Tell us what gems we missed, we were all hoping you were taking notes.

Senator Cruz repeatedly reiterated that the citizens of the United States of America have consistently asked Congress to defund the Patient Protection Affordable Care Act. He did not, however, identify the method that he utilized to unskew survey data.


So, is some PS artist going to 'shop his blurry face onto the Fatty in the Pines pic?
 
2013-09-25 12:40:34 PM  
I don't mind McCain sometimes, but I like what he's stating here. Respect the outcome of elections.
 
2013-09-25 12:40:39 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: Dancin_In_Anson: Don't listen.

Judging  from the replies it would seem that most if not all of you took my advice.


riight, we missed something important did we?

do tell.
I'll get you started:

Today I listened to Ted Cruz's fake filibuster and I learned ________________...
go ahead

while you're at it care to admit Ted botched an attempt to use a children's story as a metaphor proving his point? Instead he proved that he didn't think his use of "green eggs & ham" through before he jumped into it....or...or, my theory...he doesn't seem to get the point of story.

maybe I'm wrong. help me out.
here's how I see it:

ACA = green eggs and ham
Cruz = the kid who wont try the ACA
Obama = the guy assuring him it's actually a good thing

how about you?
 
2013-09-25 12:45:52 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: This is what he read:


lol
he's pretty worried about the unions huh?

They don't seem to like the minimum requirements for coverage (crap plans).  Too bad, this can't work otherwise.
Without that people would just attempt to get around required coverage with empty plans that are mainly just for show, right?
 
2013-09-25 12:46:03 PM  
So this is the thread where Republicans cheer the foreign-born son of a guy who fought for Castro reading a leader from a union thug on the Senate floor
 
2013-09-25 12:48:23 PM  

Dimensio: Am I alone in believing that Senator Cruz resembles a wigless drag queen?


Why are Liberals so afraid of a strong conservative female impersonator?
 
2013-09-25 12:49:37 PM  
I found this... but I'm not sure what it means... seems to fit with his Dr Seuss theme... perhaps he's a barbaloot at heart who frolics about in his barbaloot suit when no one's watching him pretend to filibuster.

winnietoons.com

sorry about the size... couldn't find a smaller one and didn't feel it was worth the effort to resize and rehost...
 
2013-09-25 12:52:32 PM  
Lol, Chucky S from NY is mentioning the green eggs and ham discussion. Well played.
 
2013-09-25 12:54:19 PM  
Haha. Chuck Schumer calling out Cruz for reading Green Eggs & Ham, where the moral is 'try it, you might like it'.
 
2013-09-25 12:59:58 PM  

MmmCrime: I don't mind McCain sometimes, but I like what he's stating here. Respect the outcome of elections.


He is a true RINO.
 
2013-09-25 01:00:21 PM  

MmmCrime: Lol, Chucky S from NY is mentioning the green eggs and ham discussion. Well played.


so Ted's biggest accomplishments from this little piece of theater have been

1) impressing the morbidly infromed
2) creating a situation in which the dems have to explain a children's story to him.
 
2013-09-25 01:04:18 PM  

BinderWoman: Haha. Chuck Schumer calling out Cruz for reading Green Eggs & Ham, where the moral is 'try it, you might like it'.


awesome.
 
2013-09-25 01:11:08 PM  

Darth Macho: James!: He'll have to stop talking in a half hour when the Senate reconvenes.

So this whole stunt is essentially the equivalent of me asking my boss if I can sit behind his desk and make important decisions as long as the shop is closed and I have to scram when he comes back in the morning.

Brilliant. Conservatives have decided to run their own separate Congress where they get to win because NO DEMOCRATS ALLOWED. We should charge them for renting out the Capitol.


i.chzbgr.com
 
2013-09-25 01:12:54 PM  

Thrag: There's something about Ted Cruz's face that makes it looks like it's a rubber mask. I can't help but expect that one day on the floor of the senate he will open his collar, reach down just below his neck, and in one sweeping motion pull the mask off to reveal he's really Andy Kaufman.


God I hope not.

Borat maybe.
 
2013-09-25 01:15:48 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: HotWingConspiracy: Tell us what gems we missed

This is what he read:

Dear Leader Reid and Leader Pelosi:
When you and the President sought our support for the Affordable Care Act (ACA), you pledged that if we liked the health plans we have now, we could keep them. Sadly, that promise is under threat. Right now, unless you and the Obama Administration enact an equitable fix, the ACA will shatter not only our hard-earned health benefits, but destroy the foundation of the 40 hour work week that is the backbone of the American middle class.
Like millions of other Americans, our members are front-line workers in the American economy. We have been strong supporters of the notion that all Americans should have access to quality, affordable health care. We have also been strong supporters of you. In campaign after campaign we have put boots on the ground, gone door-to-door to get out the vote, run phone banks and raised money to secure this vision.
Now this vision has come back to haunt us.
Since the ACA was enacted, we have been bringing our deep concerns to the Administration, seeking reasonable regulatory interpretations to the statute that would help prevent the destruction of non-profit health plans. As you both know first-hand, our persuasive arguments have been disregarded and met with a stone wall by the White House and the pertinent agencies. This is especially stinging because other stakeholders have repeatedly received successful interpretations for their respective grievances. Most disconcerting of course is last week's huge accommodation for the employer community-extending the statutorily mandated "December 31, 2013" deadline for the employer mandate and penalties.
Time is running out: Congress wrote this law; we voted for you. We have a problem; you need to fix it. The unintended consequences of the ACA are severe. Perverse incentives are already creating nightmare scenarios:
First, the law creates an incentive for employers to keep employees' work hours be ...


Oh that? Yeah Obama already explained to the unions that they cannot have what they want.
 
2013-09-25 01:32:03 PM  
Your rhyme and meter does not match Dr. Seuss.

/submitted this with a better headline
 
2013-09-25 01:34:08 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: Dancin_In_Anson: HotWingConspiracy: Tell us what gems we missed

This is what he read:
[...]

Oh that? Yeah Obama already explained to the unions that they cannot have what they want.


Did he at least also explain that, if they try sometimes, they can get what they need?
 
2013-09-25 01:41:46 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: Oh that? Yeah Obama already explained to the unions that they cannot have what they want.


What a socialist anti-capitalist.

We should have seen this coming - a big reason for the unions was that American factory workers didn't have the same benefits as workers in other countries, never mind the fact that many of those benefits (health care, retirement, sick pay) were provided by the government in other countries. We didn't want to be "communist" over here so we demanded the employers provide it rather than the government.

With healthcare no longer tied to employment, unions will lose a major bargaining chip. Which isn't necessarily bad; most of the jobs with unions right now are doing pretty well; we need unions at Wal-Mart and other retailers more than we need truckers and car factory unions at the moment.
 
2013-09-25 01:44:04 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: Obama already explained to the unions that they cannot have what they want


Let's remind ourselves what that was...

Dancin_In_Anson: the very health and wellbeing of our members along with millions of other hardworking Americans.


Not yours! Can't have! How does the saying go? Oh yeah...

i1123.photobucket.com
 
2013-09-25 01:48:47 PM  

encyclopediaplushuman: /submitted this with a better headline


Yeah, tell me about it. Mine was the bestest better headline in the history of ever.
 
2013-09-25 01:50:19 PM  
I believe that I misunderstood Senator Coats (R-Indiana). My understanding -- which must be in error -- is that he claimed that the President and the Congressional Democrats would take full responsibility for a federal government shutdown, should the Republican party force one to occur.
 
2013-09-25 01:50:27 PM  

ox45tallboy: encyclopediaplushuman: /submitted this with a better headline

Yeah, tell me about it. Mine was the bestest better headline in the history of ever.


My headline sucked the chrome off a trailer hitch.
 
2013-09-25 01:50:46 PM  

encyclopediaplushuman: /submitted this with a better headline


thanks OBAMA
 
DGS [TotalFark]
2013-09-25 01:55:51 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: HotWingConspiracy: Obama already explained to the unions that they cannot have what they want

Let's remind ourselves what that was...

Dancin_In_Anson: the very health and wellbeing of our members along with millions of other hardworking Americans.

Not yours! Can't have! How does the saying go? Oh yeah...

[i1123.photobucket.com image 640x693]


ohyou.jpg
 
2013-09-25 01:59:51 PM  

MattStafford: God, the stuff that I would read if I was filibustering.


Number 32: The lady lies with her left leg planted firmly on the ground and the right hand waiting. The gentleman with the melon switches on the battery and places his left thigh on the edge of the swivel table, keeping the neck of the .....

/anything but obscure
 
2013-09-25 02:03:25 PM  

somedude210: hot damn, the comments on CSPAN are worse than the ones here:

"Douche alert #McCain is speaking for the #Democrats NOT for Americans! #DefundObamacare "


CSPAN calls and tweets have been getting more reactionary and less cogent for years, mostly like the American Right since Buckley died.
 
2013-09-25 02:08:41 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: How many of you championed Wendy Davis?


Eh, I'm all for this guy, too. Just so long as he can actually pull it off the old-fashioned way, he's welcome to do it.

The consequences may make people hate his ass, but if you try to put a screw in with a hammer it ain't gonna go well either, even if you're totally allowed to use that hammer...
 
2013-09-25 02:12:56 PM  

flondrix: Someone pointed out that whomever holds the copyright for Green Eggs and Ham could go after him for an unauthorized "Public Performance".


Not possible. "The "speech or debate" clause is a basic protection of members of Congress in a government of separated powers. Inherited from the British parliament, the right prevents executive oppression of the legislature, and here protects members from criminal or civil liability in the performance of their legislative responsibilities." (Article 1, Section 6)
 
2013-09-25 02:17:11 PM  

Corvus: Hahaha he is explaining to Republicans that this really doesn't do anything at all.Republicans are calling him out.


If a guy wants to talk all night on the Senate floor, its fine by me. I think he's a megadoucheturd for trying to shut down the government, and he knows this is just for the 'Bagger base--its not even a filibuster. But I don't have a problem with him talking.
 
2013-09-25 02:29:04 PM  

Somacandra: But I don't have a problem with him talking.


I will go so far as to say the Congressional Record is better for containing the text of "Green Eggs and Ham". But that's about it.
 
2013-09-25 02:32:26 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: HotWingConspiracy: Obama already explained to the unions that they cannot have what they want

Let's remind ourselves what that was...

Dancin_In_Anson: the very health and wellbeing of our members along with millions of other hardworking Americans.


Well that was how they framed it. Do you know how the world works? Do you understand why one would use certain language to convey thoughts when trying to persuade another?

I know you're just bitter, but don't let that break you down in to being a blithering idiot.
 
2013-09-25 03:27:10 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: Most disconcerting of course is last week's huge accommodation for the employer community-extending the statutorily mandated "December 31, 2013" deadline for the employer mandate and penalties.


So, they want to delay the entire thing and delaying part of it is 'most disconcerting'? When "You can do A or B. If you do A, that's really bad. If you do B, that's really bad, too." is your political strategy, we can safely dismiss you as a complete crackpot.
 
2013-09-25 03:28:32 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: Not yours! Can't have! How does the saying go? Oh yeah...

[i1123.photobucket.com image 640x693]


My car needed $1100 in repairs today. Thanks Obama!
 
2013-09-25 03:48:25 PM  

PsiChick: Eh, I'm all for this guy, too. Just so long as he can actually pull it off the old-fashioned way, he's welcome to do it.


That's pretty much my position.  Even if this isn't a true fillabuster, at least he's doing it the old fashioned way.  Hell, its the most labor that anyone in the Senate has done for years.
 
2013-09-25 04:58:23 PM  

flondrix: Someone pointed out that whomever holds the copyright for Green Eggs and Ham could go after him for an unauthorized "Public Performance".


Which would be more than a bit of hilarity :D  (And yes, someone does hold the copyright--pretty much the rights to the Dr. Seuss properties are presently held by Dr. Seuss Enterprises and Random House may well also have some say as a licensee for publishing.)

Of course, being the snarty SOB that I am, I'm damn well tempted to propose that on the day that all of the bits of the ACA come into effect (effectively 1 January 2014 for most people, 1 January 2015 in general) that there be a national breakfast...of green eggs and ham :D  (Green orange juice and coffee optional.)
 
2013-09-25 05:20:20 PM  

Jackson Herring: Eddie Adams from Torrance: Next, he's going to read The Lorax when railing against the EPA

The Butter Battle Book during his filibuster against defense cuts


The Sneetches and Other Stories when railing against the Civil Rights Act, Affirmative Action, and the Americans with Disabilities Act?

Horton Hatches The Egg when railing against WIC and assistance programs for new mothers?

Yertle The Turtle when ranting for more tax cuts for the wealthy?

Thidwick The Big-Hearted Moose when railing against the DNC realising the Tea Partiers do not know the meaning of "compromise"?

The 500 Hats of Bartholomew Cubbins whilst jusitifying the addition of yet another attempt to kill the ACA to any budget bill they can stick it on?

If I Ran The Circus in an interview regarding his presidential aspirations?

Marvin K. Mooney, Would You Please Go Now! in calling for impeachment of Obama...oh, wait, that was already done in calling for Richard M. Nixon to leave office, oops...

/seriously, this is quite a lulzcow :3
 
2013-09-25 05:35:15 PM  

Great Porn Dragon: Jackson Herring: Eddie Adams from Torrance: Next, he's going to read The Lorax when railing against the EPA

The Butter Battle Book during his filibuster against defense cuts

The Sneetches and Other Stories when railing against the Civil Rights Act, Affirmative Action, and the Americans with Disabilities Act?

Horton Hatches The Egg when railing against WIC and assistance programs for new mothers?

Yertle The Turtle when ranting for more tax cuts for the wealthy?

Thidwick The Big-Hearted Moose when railing against the DNC realising the Tea Partiers do not know the meaning of "compromise"?

The 500 Hats of Bartholomew Cubbins whilst jusitifying the addition of yet another attempt to kill the ACA to any budget bill they can stick it on?

If I Ran The Circus in an interview regarding his presidential aspirations?

Marvin K. Mooney, Would You Please Go Now! in calling for impeachment of Obama...oh, wait, that was already done in calling for Richard M. Nixon to leave office, oops...

/seriously, this is quite a lulzcow :3


And to think that I saw it on Mulberry K street... while complaining about lobbyists and their corrupt influence on congress.
 
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