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(CNN)   Hillary should not run for president, opines long-time Clinton supporter and wealthy Texan donor I.R. GOP Stooge   (cnn.com ) divider line
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2013-09-25 09:25:18 AM  
Yeah, she's getting old.  It's a valid point.  I'd still vote for her provided she demonstrates that she's still fit for the job, but it is a legitimate concern.
 
2013-09-25 09:37:07 AM  
At this point, I think the greatest service that she can do her party is to be the lightning rod that attracts so much ire and attention, so that other candidates are looked at less. It worked in 2008, and I suspect that it will hold true by the next election cycle.

In all honesty, I'm NOT her biggest fan, but I do think that the irrational fear and loathing that Rabid Right has for her is a tool that helped propel Obama into the White House, and I don't think that it's something that the DNC has discounted in the least. Having her in the race is a service to all the other candidates, because years of hatred and bile can be focused upon her, while another candidate avoids the muckraking that the 2016 race will herald.
 
2013-09-25 09:40:46 AM  

hubiestubert: At this point, I think the greatest service that she can do her party is to be the lightning rod that attracts so much ire and attention, so that other candidates are looked at less. It worked in 2008, and I suspect that it will hold true by the next election cycle.


I think that's exactly what she's doing.  She's in the enviable position of being able to troll Republicans more easily than anyone else in the country (yes, even more easily than Obama, since Hillary isn't in any office and is thus able to say whatever she wants).
 
2013-09-25 09:42:21 AM  

HMS_Blinkin: hubiestubert: At this point, I think the greatest service that she can do her party is to be the lightning rod that attracts so much ire and attention, so that other candidates are looked at less. It worked in 2008, and I suspect that it will hold true by the next election cycle.

I think that's exactly what she's doing.  She's in the enviable position of being able to troll Republicans more easily than anyone else in the country (yes, even more easily than Obama, since Hillary isn't in any office and is thus able to say whatever she wants).


It's possible.  It's possible that she doesn't WANT the job, that's another angle you have to consider.  Personally, I doubt that given her ambitious life to date, but on the other hand she is getting up in years, maybe she just wants to go home and be the idle rich now.
 
2013-09-25 09:44:56 AM  

nekom: Yeah, she's getting old.  It's a valid point.  I'd still vote for her provided she demonstrates that she's still fit for the job, but it is a legitimate concern.


Still fit for the job??? When has she ever demonstrated she was fit for the job?  So here's a serious question: Can you tell me what she ever accomplished as Senator or Sec of State?

I am not saying she isn't smart, but as Obama is proving, you need more than smarts to be prez. Like Obama, she doesn't seem to have ANY leadership skills and her decision making skills during a crisis... what can I say other than Bengahzi.
 
2013-09-25 09:47:53 AM  
Pretty sure the author of that article, James C. Moore, is a Texas liberal.  I seem to remember reading some op-ed pieces from him before.
 
2013-09-25 09:48:19 AM  

hubiestubert: At this point, I think the greatest service that she can do her party is to be the lightning rod that attracts so much ire and attention, so that other candidates are looked at less. It worked in 2008, and I suspect that it will hold true by the next election cycle.

In all honesty, I'm NOT her biggest fan, but I do think that the irrational fear and loathing that Rabid Right has for her is a tool that helped propel Obama into the White House, and I don't think that it's something that the DNC has discounted in the least. Having her in the race is a service to all the other candidates, because years of hatred and bile can be focused upon her, while another candidate avoids the muckraking that the 2016 race will herald.


Honestly, I think that worked in 2008 but I think they've run out of things to say about her. Her approval ratings when she left office as Secretary of State were very high, and all of the attacks on her are such old news at this point that people have gotten used to tuning them out. The people who still hate her were never going to vote for her (or any Democrat) and the thing about her is she's so well known to the public that there's no potential surprises around the corner.

Too soon to tell, but if she runs she's got a really good shot at it this time. She's much better positioned then she was in 2008.
 
2013-09-25 09:49:34 AM  

Brick-House: nekom: Yeah, she's getting old.  It's a valid point.  I'd still vote for her provided she demonstrates that she's still fit for the job, but it is a legitimate concern.

Still fit for the job??? When has she ever demonstrated she was fit for the job?  So here's a serious question: Can you tell me what she ever accomplished as Senator or Sec of State?

I am not saying she isn't smart, but as Obama is proving, you need more than smarts to be prez. Like Obama, she doesn't seem to have ANY leadership skills and her decision making skills during a crisis... what can I say other than Bengahzi.


*facepalm*

It's too early for a drink right?
 
2013-09-25 09:53:16 AM  

Genevieve Marie: Brick-House:  what can I say other than Bengahzi.

*facepalm*

It's too early for a drink right?


I'll pour.
 
2013-09-25 09:54:00 AM  

Genevieve Marie: Brick-House: nekom: Yeah, she's getting old.  It's a valid point.  I'd still vote for her provided she demonstrates that she's still fit for the job, but it is a legitimate concern.

Still fit for the job??? When has she ever demonstrated she was fit for the job?  So here's a serious question: Can you tell me what she ever accomplished as Senator or Sec of State?

I am not saying she isn't smart, but as Obama is proving, you need more than smarts to be prez. Like Obama, she doesn't seem to have ANY leadership skills and her decision making skills during a crisis... what can I say other than Bengahzi.

*facepalm*

It's too early for a drink right?


No, actually drink away and pop a few pills while you're at it.  But before you do, can you answer the question what great accomplishments Hillary makes her the best (only) choice to be president?

/crickets chirping
 
2013-09-25 09:54:37 AM  
Baby boomers need to release their arthritic fingers from the torch of leadership

Stopped reading right there.
 
2013-09-25 09:57:11 AM  
The first argument against another Clinton candidacy is generational.
...
Age is another important consideration


WTFamIreading.jpg
 
2013-09-25 09:58:52 AM  

Brick-House: nekom: Yeah, she's getting old.  It's a valid point.  I'd still vote for her provided she demonstrates that she's still fit for the job, but it is a legitimate concern.

Still fit for the job??? When has she ever demonstrated she was fit for the job?  So here's a serious question: Can you tell me what she ever accomplished as Senator or Sec of State?

I am not saying she isn't smart, but as Obama is proving, you need more than smarts to be prez. Like Obama, she doesn't seem to have ANY leadership skills and her decision making skills during a crisis... what can I say other than Bengahzi.


Dude... you got derp all over this thread. Clean it up.
 
2013-09-25 09:59:50 AM  
It bears repeating that the GOP is holding on to over 20 years worth of ire and hatred and prepared traps, PR, ambushes and outright lies to bombard her with when she even gets close to the nomination.

Remember how 'at ease' the GOP was when it looked as if she were going to get the nomination in 2008.  No fear, no anger, just empty talk about how she'd make a distinguished candidate...

Obama's taking of the nomination ruined that and set them back 8 years, at the least.

Do I think she could overcome it?  Probably.  If she were even 10 years younger, I'd support her running.  But, today?  I don't think she's the right one for the job anymore.

So, I have to agree with the sentiment that she needs to play the part of the 'lightning rod' and divert ire and hatred and distract the GOP from the other candidates.
 
2013-09-25 10:00:13 AM  

Brick-House: No, actually drink away and pop a few pills while you're at it.  But before you do, can you answer the question what great accomplishments Hillary makes her the best (only) choice to be president?

/crickets chirping


Nobody said that.
 
2013-09-25 10:01:48 AM  
I'm voting for Hillary.   I honestly can't wait for the Hillary Fark years to start.

New memes, old jokes... it will be awesome
 
2013-09-25 10:04:16 AM  
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/clip/4335183 @ 1:30

never gets old lol
 
2013-09-25 10:11:12 AM  

Brick-House: Genevieve Marie: Brick-House: nekom: Yeah, she's getting old.  It's a valid point.  I'd still vote for her provided she demonstrates that she's still fit for the job, but it is a legitimate concern.

Still fit for the job??? When has she ever demonstrated she was fit for the job?  So here's a serious question: Can you tell me what she ever accomplished as Senator or Sec of State?

I am not saying she isn't smart, but as Obama is proving, you need more than smarts to be prez. Like Obama, she doesn't seem to have ANY leadership skills and her decision making skills during a crisis... what can I say other than Bengahzi.

*facepalm*

It's too early for a drink right?

No, actually drink away and pop a few pills while you're at it.  But before you do, can you answer the question what great accomplishments Hillary makes her the best (only) choice to be president?

/crickets chirping


She's not the only choice. But she's a former first lady, senator and secretary of state which means she's had a highly visible and successful career in politics for most of her life, and she was, despite your insinuation otherwise, a pretty fantastic secretary of state.

Anyone who thinks that an attack on embassy in a really volatile and unstable region that killed four people means the secretary of state is incompetent has an agenda and only a tenuous relationship with reality.
 
2013-09-25 10:17:02 AM  
If she gets the nod, looks like I'll be voting for a 3rd party candidate. I really don't know of any Dems that I think would make a better candidate though, and I'm 99.9% sure the GOP is going to nominate a massive derper, so I'm not gonna vote that direction. I've just never been a fan of Hillary and don't really see her as a leader, let alone as President.

IF the GOP was smrt, they would see Christie is their best option. But, since they think the reason they are losing ground is because they aren't conservative enough...
 
2013-09-25 10:24:41 AM  
If you thought the last cycle was ugly, you ain't seen nothin' till Hill runs.

Prepare to surf a class 9 rapids of bile and sewage.
 
2013-09-25 10:31:40 AM  

Genevieve Marie: former first lady, senator and secretary of state which means she's had a highly visible and successful


So this is what qualifies you to be the President?

Color me suprised that no one can cite ANY accomplishments by this woman. Libs have such low expectations of their leaders (if you can call them that). And mind you, I will be the first to say that McCain and Romney were not very good chooices.

I am hoping for a better crop in 2016.
 
2013-09-25 10:35:48 AM  

Brick-House: Genevieve Marie: former first lady, senator and secretary of state which means she's had a highly visible and successful

So this is what qualifies you to be the President?

Color me suprised that no one can cite ANY accomplishments by this woman. Libs have such low expectations of their leaders (if you can call them that). And mind you, I will be the first to say that McCain and Romney were not very good chooices.

I am hoping for a better crop in 2016.


Who though? As poor a candidate as Mitt was, he was clearly the least bad option of the 2012 GOP crew. Who in 2016 is a better choice than Romney was?
 
2013-09-25 10:43:16 AM  

Brick-House: Genevieve Marie: former first lady, senator and secretary of state which means she's had a highly visible and successful

So this is what qualifies you to be the President?

Color me suprised that no one can cite ANY accomplishments by this woman. Libs have such low expectations of their leaders (if you can call them that). And mind you, I will be the first to say that McCain and Romney were not very good chooices.

I am hoping for a better crop in 2016.


Sigh. Yes, being a Yale educated lawyer, first lady, senator and secretary of state equals no accomplishments and no qualifications.

God, I think I just need to be drunk until November 9 2016.
 
2013-09-25 10:51:11 AM  

Genevieve Marie: Brick-House: Genevieve Marie: former first lady, senator and secretary of state which means she's had a highly visible and successful

So this is what qualifies you to be the President?

Color me suprised that no one can cite ANY accomplishments by this woman. Libs have such low expectations of their leaders (if you can call them that). And mind you, I will be the first to say that McCain and Romney were not very good chooices.

I am hoping for a better crop in 2016.

Sigh. Yes, being a Yale educated lawyer, first lady, senator and secretary of state equals no accomplishments and no qualifications.

God, I think I just need to be drunk until November 9 2016.


In fairness, this is probably a sound plan. Dancing on tables IS optional though.
 
2013-09-25 10:53:08 AM  

Genevieve Marie: Brick-House: Genevieve Marie: former first lady, senator and secretary of state which means she's had a highly visible and successful

So this is what qualifies you to be the President?

Color me suprised that no one can cite ANY accomplishments by this woman. Libs have such low expectations of their leaders (if you can call them that). And mind you, I will be the first to say that McCain and Romney were not very good chooices.

I am hoping for a better crop in 2016.

Sigh. Yes, being a Yale educated lawyer, first lady, senator and secretary of state equals no accomplishments and no qualifications.

God, I think I just need to be drunk until November 9 2016.


Is this really that hard??? As a notable senator and secretary of state, what did she accomplish? Any notable legistration? Any great treaties? Bring peace to the Mid-East? Hell, did she bring peace to her and Bill?

But I guess what you're really telling me is...

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-09-25 10:53:32 AM  
He sounds concerned.
 
2013-09-25 10:56:37 AM  

LucklessWonder: Brick-House: Genevieve Marie: former first lady, senator and secretary of state which means she's had a highly visible and successful

So this is what qualifies you to be the President?

Color me suprised that no one can cite ANY accomplishments by this woman. Libs have such low expectations of their leaders (if you can call them that). And mind you, I will be the first to say that McCain and Romney were not very good chooices.

I am hoping for a better crop in 2016.

Who though? As poor a candidate as Mitt was, he was clearly the least bad option of the 2012 GOP crew. Who in 2016 is a better choice than Romney was?


Chris Christie.

Brick-House probably thinks he's a RINO though.
 
2013-09-25 11:00:33 AM  
Christie is tainted in the GOP's eyes by having not been virulently opposed to Obama on at least one occasion. He'll be primaried out early.
 
2013-09-25 11:58:15 AM  

Brick-House: Genevieve Marie: former first lady, senator and secretary of state which means she's had a highly visible and successful

So this is what qualifies you to be the President?

Color me suprised that no one can cite ANY accomplishments by this woman. Libs have such low expectations of their leaders (if you can call them that). And mind you, I will be the first to say that McCain and Romney were not very good chooices.

I am hoping for a better crop in 2016.


Oh for dog's sake. Go look them up. Fair warning, there are a lot, even just from her time at State. You want one just so you can't harp? Fine. Salvaging the historic treaty between Turkey and Armenia. Or being instrumental in getting Honduras to return to a democratic government. Go look them up. Those are two of dozens...
 
2013-09-25 12:04:20 PM  
Just checking in... I see no has been able to come up with any specific examples of notable accomplishes by HC  while she was a senator or SoS. Can't wait for this empty pants suit to run. Maybe she can get Huma's husband to be her running mate, I understand his schedule is pretty open (as is his fly).
 
2013-09-25 12:19:08 PM  
Judges? does this qualify as irony?

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2013-09-25 12:23:08 PM  

poo flinging monkey: Judges? does this qualify as irony?

[img15.imageshack.us image 800x187]


Yup. I'd give it a 9.6  on the irony scale.
 
2013-09-25 01:05:07 PM  

Brick-House: Just checking in... I see no has been able to come up with any specific examples of notable accomplishes by HC  while she was a senator or SoS. Can't wait for this empty pants suit to run. Maybe she can get Huma's husband to be her running mate, I understand his schedule is pretty open (as is his fly).


Christ, you really do live in that GOP bubble in Fox News and Fw,Fw,Fw,Fw land.  Do you guys ever recycle the air in there?  If you honestly want to know, just type in Google: What did Hillary Clinton accomplish as Secretary of State.

Here is the very first link: Hillary Rodham Clinton's tenure as Secretary of State.

A few highlights:

She saw Economic Statecraft that made domestic economic growth - e.g. helping U.S. companies win business overseas - a key pillar of U.S. foreign policy. She appointed the State Department's first ever-chief economist to help implement that.

She led efforts to rescue Chen Guangcheng, the dissident who took refuge in the U.S. Embassy in Beijing in May 2012, without crippling U.S.-China relations.

She also rejuvenated U.S. engagement in the Middle East by brokering a ceasefire between Hamas and Israel.
Her diplomacy and coordination with Egyptian President Mohammed Morsi will likely give the U.S. greater leverage to pursue a peace process.

She supported the raid against Osma Bin Laden and was a key player in adjusting U.S.-Pakistan relations afterwards. She was also a strong proponent of NATO airstrikes in Libya that eventually led to Muammar Gaddafi's ouster.

That's just a few.  Read up and edgumakate yourself.
 
2013-09-25 01:14:25 PM  
Just checking in yet again, scanning this entire thread... and yet you FarkLibs have STILL not been able to provide a single specific instance of Clinton accomplishing anything of value during a whole decade as senator and SoS. LOL. But don't worry libs, I'm sure that empty suit Hill will still be your party's savior in 2016 after you get thrown out in next year's midterm elections, as long as she can avoid the Bosnian sniper fire on the way there of course. Keep believing!
 
2013-09-25 01:15:00 PM  
Aw fark, mods please delete my prior post.
 
2013-09-25 01:25:43 PM  
I am surprised the libs have forgotten how she held Vince Foster down with one hand and shot him in the mouth with the other.

/Am I doing it right?
 
2013-09-25 03:52:30 PM  

LucklessWonder: Christie is tainted in the GOP's eyes by having not been virulently opposed to Obama on at least one occasion. He'll be primaried out early.


And that's the problem. Anyone who is the least bit centrist will be primaried out. Then, the only hope is just the least vile of the remaining candidates. This sets too low a bar for the opposition. How hard is it to be a better choice than Mitt Romney?
 
2013-09-25 09:18:42 PM  
The 2 reasons I don't want to see Hillary run are: A) It will bring Dick Morris back from the news pundit graveyard. The guys hates Hillary with a rabid froth after the Clintons canned his sorry ass for the Toe sucking thing. Fox News will be more than happy to bring that to the Network all will be forgiven for " Romney will win in a landslide " boasts and B) I think Biden deserves a shot. The guy may be a gaffe machine but when he knows its serious business he always seems to come thru.

Besides that hey another Clinton presidency sounds pretty OK to me, Unless the republicans nominate a moderate candidate..BWA-HA-HA! like that will ever happen..It will be another case of TeaParty  McNuttcase for them
 
2013-09-26 01:01:34 AM  

the_vegetarian_cannibal: Just checking in yet again, scanning this entire thread... and yet you FarkLibs have STILL not been able to provide a single specific instance of Clinton accomplishing anything of value during a whole decade as senator and SoS. LOL. But don't worry libs, I'm sure that empty suit Hill will still be your party's savior in 2016 after you get thrown out in next year's midterm elections, as long as she can avoid the Bosnian sniper fire on the way there of course. Keep believing!


I'm no detective, but I think an alt just unearthed himself. Thanks Brick-House
 
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