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2013-09-25 12:02:00 AM
Although, for teachers, even when your high school aged girl IS real.... your brilliant plan to not lose your career is "A 16-year old girl is going to keep a secret".
 
2013-09-25 12:18:11 AM
They don't punctuate?
 
2013-09-25 12:29:04 AM
In b4 ENTRAPMENT!!!11!!!
 
2013-09-25 12:38:31 AM

Somacandra: In b4 ENTRAPMENT!!!11!!!


What was Sean Connery doing in that mess of a film?
 
2013-09-25 02:13:45 AM

GreenAdder: Somacandra: In b4 ENTRAPMENT!!!11!!!

What was Sean Connery doing in that mess of a film?


Probably the same thing the rest of us were doing.

1.bp.blogspot.com

Ogling DAT ASS.
 
2013-09-25 02:32:43 AM
That they can easily be led into a windowless van with promises of lip gloss and Mentos?
 
2013-09-25 02:37:14 AM
consequenceofsound.net
 
2013-09-25 02:39:38 AM
$100? What a cheap pervert!
 
2013-09-25 02:41:02 AM
Everything under 18 has a 87% chance of being jailbait?
 
2013-09-25 02:42:05 AM

Somacandra: In b4 ENTRAPMENT!!!11!!!


Yeah, why would anyone think that the law enforcement agency induced this crime? Oh, because the guy was "responding to an online advertisement posted by a Seattle Police Department detective. "
 
2013-09-25 02:44:50 AM
I've got to say; why do so many idiots go after illegal tail, when all you have to do is bite the bullet and ask chubby Pam in accounting out for a drink. Everybody knows Pam puts out on the first date.
 
2013-09-25 02:48:39 AM

iheartscotch: I've got to say; why do so many idiots go after illegal tail, when all you have to do is bite the bullet and ask chubby Pam in accounting out for a drink. Everybody knows Pam puts out on the first date.


Yeah, but Pam makes a face like Large Marge when she comes and then wants to talk to you about her cat mug collection.
 
2013-09-25 02:56:27 AM

Cagey B: iheartscotch: I've got to say; why do so many idiots go after illegal tail, when all you have to do is bite the bullet and ask chubby Pam in accounting out for a drink. Everybody knows Pam puts out on the first date.

Yeah, but Pam makes a face like Large Marge when she comes and then wants to talk to you about her cat mug collection.


And everybody in the office knows.
 
2013-09-25 02:57:14 AM

Cagey B: iheartscotch: I've got to say; why do so many idiots go after illegal tail, when all you have to do is bite the bullet and ask chubby Pam in accounting out for a drink. Everybody knows Pam puts out on the first date.

Yeah, but Pam makes a face like Large Marge when she comes and then wants to talk to you about her cat mug collection.


Well, sometimes in order to get laid; you have to talk about some lady's cats.

Here's what I've found helpful: instead of laughing at the playful antics of buttercup the cat, laugh at the situation you're in; instead of groaning over their misdeeds, groan over what you're going to do to Jim in IT for setting you up with a lemon. Lastly; you'll want to make the speediest exit possible; fake doctor's appointments work, or a visit to a chiropractor.
 
2013-09-25 02:57:50 AM

Cagey B: iheartscotch: I've got to say; why do so many idiots go after illegal tail, when all you have to do is bite the bullet and ask chubby Pam in accounting out for a drink. Everybody knows Pam puts out on the first date.

Yeah, but Pam makes a face like Large Marge when she comes and then wants to talk to you about her cat mug collection.


www.feistees.com

Sploosh.
 
2013-09-25 03:05:05 AM
Whatever avenue you choose to pursue pussy, there will be hell to pay.
/Unless you pay for it
 
2013-09-25 03:05:28 AM
They're hot?

/having a seat over there...
 
2013-09-25 03:06:29 AM

HotWingAgenda: Cagey B: iheartscotch: I've got to say; why do so many idiots go after illegal tail, when all you have to do is bite the bullet and ask chubby Pam in accounting out for a drink. Everybody knows Pam puts out on the first date.

Yeah, but Pam makes a face like Large Marge when she comes and then wants to talk to you about her cat mug collection.

[www.feistees.com image 358x300]

Sploosh.


If you boink that Pam, you're going to have to answer to Sterling Archer.  Which sounds pretty cool, actually.
 
2013-09-25 03:07:10 AM
According to police reports filed in the case, Conley responded to an ad posted in the "Casual Encounters" section of an unidentified online site.

The reporter didn't recognize Craigslist? Also -- Wonder if the ad is still up so we can respond with really twisted counter-offers involving various animals, processed food products, and unlikely mechanics' and mountain climbing tools.
 
2013-09-25 03:08:26 AM

iheartscotch: I've got to say; why do so many idiots go after illegal tail, when all you have to do is bite the bullet and ask chubby Pam in accounting out for a drink. Everybody knows Pam puts out on the first date.



And hope Pam has a hot teenage daughter!

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2013-09-25 03:15:31 AM
"Brent Conley -- a Seattle resident and Kentridge High School teacher -- is alleged to have offered a fictitious girl $100 for sex after responding to an online advertisement posted by a Seattle Police Department detective."
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So, the girl does not exist, neither should the case.
So, the cops placed an ad. They caused a scenario for entrapment.

Typical cops.
And so what if it was a real girl. She would have been asking for it now, wouldn't she? Sounds like choice to me.

These are my new "Stand up for teachers" pics. I think I'll wear them out like a wrongo ronpaul photoshop.

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and the bumper sticker...

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?Because I was a very horny kid.
 
2013-09-25 03:19:00 AM
3 rules cover that and he failed....
 
2013-09-25 03:25:27 AM

Stoker: "Brent Conley -- a Seattle resident and Kentridge High School teacher -- is alleged to have offered a fictitious girl $100 for sex after responding to an online advertisement posted by a Seattle Police Department detective."
-=-
So, the girl does not exist, neither should the case.
So, the cops placed an ad. They caused a scenario for entrapment.

Typical cops.
And so what if it was a real girl. She would have been asking for it now, wouldn't she? Sounds like choice to me.

These are my new "Stand up for teachers" pics. I think I'll wear them out like a wrongo ronpaul photoshop.

[img9.imageshack.us image 700x430]

and the bumper sticker...

[img21.imageshack.us image 400x137]

?Because I was a very horny kid.


That's not what entrapment is.
 
2013-09-25 03:36:36 AM
Sooooo....I shouldn't meet this girl at McDonald's tomorrow night like she wants me to?
 
2013-09-25 03:40:23 AM
He better get used to hearing, "You got a purty mouth boy".
 
2013-09-25 03:52:15 AM
When you're an adult, the personalities of 15 year old girls are sufficiently repellent.
 
2013-09-25 03:57:33 AM
they mostly hang out and troll in the politics tab ?
 
2013-09-25 04:01:06 AM

jtown: That's not what entrapment is.


This is what entrapment is: The act of government agents or officials that induces a person to commit a crime he or she is not previously disposed to commit. (from The Free Dictionary).

The question is whether he was previously disposed to commit such a crime, and if the only evidence is that he responded to an ad posted by law enforcement, that is most definitely entrapment. However, as with many other laws, police are not expected to actually obey the law. That would hurt their ability to enforce it, or something.
 
2013-09-25 04:05:22 AM

untaken_name: Somacandra: In b4 ENTRAPMENT!!!11!!!

Yeah, why would anyone think that the law enforcement agency induced this crime? Oh, because the guy was "responding to an online advertisement posted by a Seattle Police Department detective. "


The SPD did not induce him to respond to the ad. The pedo read it, got a hard-on, and responded to it entirely on his own volition.

Creating a situation for someone to commit a crime is not the same as actively encouraging someone to commit a crime.
 
2013-09-25 04:15:24 AM

untaken_name: jtown: That's not what entrapment is.

This is what entrapment is: The act of government agents or officials that induces a person to commit a crime he or she is not previously disposed to commit. (from The Free Dictionary).

The question is whether he was previously disposed to commit such a crime, and if the only evidence is that he responded to an ad posted by law enforcement, that is most definitely entrapment. However, as with many other laws, police are not expected to actually obey the law. That would hurt their ability to enforce it, or something.


sigh.

So The Free Dictionary is a legal dictionary? I can't decide if you are really this ignorant of the law or if you are a brilliant troll.

In order for it to be entrapment, the cops have to talk you into doing something you would not normally be prone to do. You would have to put up some resistance. There has to be active contact and repetitive pro-active inducement, such as threats and coercive inducement (see John Delorean cocaine case, for example, where a higher court ruled that Delorean was indeed a victim of entrapment). This was not entrapment, he willingly went for the bait. According to you, if I left the keys in a car, that would be entrapment.

Leave the lawyering for Lionel Hutz. He's a much smarter attorney than you will ever be.

Did I sigh? No? Oh.....

sigh.
 
2013-09-25 04:16:28 AM

Kujira: untaken_name: Somacandra: In b4 ENTRAPMENT!!!11!!!

Yeah, why would anyone think that the law enforcement agency induced this crime? Oh, because the guy was "responding to an online advertisement posted by a Seattle Police Department detective. "

The SPD did not induce him to respond to the ad. The pedo read it, got a hard-on, and responded to it entirely on his own volition.

Creating a situation for someone to commit a crime is not the same as actively encouraging someone to commit a crime.


So setting traps isn't entrapment....well, you're deluded, officer. The online ad was an incitement to commit a crime. When a police officer incites someone to commit a crime and then arrests that person for attempting to commit that crime, it's the very definition of entrapment.
 
2013-09-25 04:20:45 AM

hillary: In order for it to be entrapment, the cops have to talk you into doing something you would not normally be prone to do


This is the very reason I said this: "The question is whether he was previously disposed to commit such a crime, "

And no, the free dictionary is not a legal dictionary. It's just the easiest result on Google.

Dictionary.law.com has the following to say: "The key to entrapment is whether the idea for the commission or encouragement of the criminal act originated with the police or government agents instead of with the "criminal.""

The idea for the commission of the crime originated with the police. That's why it is entrapment. I am not saying, nor did I ever say, that all online crime arrests are entrapment. But this one was.
 
2013-09-25 04:22:29 AM
It seems to be mostly English teachers (male and female) getting busted for this sort of thing.

I guess the math and science teachers are too crippled by their life long fear of girls to ever make a move.
 
2013-09-25 04:31:07 AM

untaken_name: hillary: In order for it to be entrapment, the cops have to talk you into doing something you would not normally be prone to do

This is the very reason I said this: "The question is whether he was previously disposed to commit such a crime, "

And no, the free dictionary is not a legal dictionary. It's just the easiest result on Google.

Dictionary.law.com has the following to say: "The key to entrapment is whether the idea for the commission or encouragement of the criminal act originated with the police or government agents instead of with the "criminal.""

The idea for the commission of the crime originated with the police. That's why it is entrapment. I am not saying, nor did I ever say, that all online crime arrests are entrapment. But this one was.


A dictionary definition is not a statute. Stop thinking like a 15-year-old and go read some case law. The higher courts disagree with you and clearly allow this sort of a sting. Nobody cares what you wrongly think is entrapment and it will not be a factor in this idiot teacher's defense.
 
2013-09-25 04:32:42 AM

wildcardjack: When you're an adult, the personalities of 15 year old girls are sufficiently repellent.


*shudder*
 
2013-09-25 04:35:58 AM
Did anyone ever watch that show Bait Car? I kept thinking this is entrapment, but it somehow never was.
 
2013-09-25 04:38:59 AM
untaken_name: [H]e responded to an ad posted by law enforcement, that is most definitely entrapment.

armchairmogul.files.wordpress.com

No. Entrapment is coercing you to commit a crime. Simply offering you the opportunity to commit the crime is not entrapment.

Constantly badgering you to buy dope or kiddy porn is entrapment.
Putting out an ad you answer of your own free will, or standing on the street corner pretending to be a prostitute is not entrapment.
 
2013-09-25 04:41:24 AM

wildcardjack: When you're an adult, the personalities of 15 year old girls are sufficiently repellent.


that's why Edison invented the ball gag
 
2013-09-25 04:42:12 AM

Sullyville: Did anyone ever watch that show Bait Car? I kept thinking this is entrapment, but it somehow never was.


Did the cops force the thieves to steal the cars? Did they badger them to do it? Did they even ask them to do it? No. They just left the cars out on the street. That's not entrapment.

Christ, people. This isn't rocket science.
 
2013-09-25 04:43:42 AM

untaken_name: hillary: In order for it to be entrapment, the cops have to talk you into doing something you would not normally be prone to do

This is the very reason I said this: "The question is whether he was previously disposed to commit such a crime, "

And no, the free dictionary is not a legal dictionary. It's just the easiest result on Google.

Dictionary.law.com has the following to say: "The key to entrapment is whether the idea for the commission or encouragement of the criminal act originated with the police or government agents instead of with the "criminal.""

The idea for the commission of the crime originated with the police. That's why it is entrapment. I am not saying, nor did I ever say, that all online crime arrests are entrapment. But this one was.


Yes, law enforcement created the "trap," as you call it, but did not create "the idea for the commission of the crime" into this guy's head. He decided to commit a crime without outside help, encouragement, or influence.

I really can't fathom why someone would have such a problem with police busting a guy like this, especially considering the seriousness of the crime and the position of trust and power he had over children.
 
2013-09-25 04:49:11 AM
brian.hoover.net.au

Ginger kids become ginger adults.  Think about it.
 
2013-09-25 04:52:05 AM
untaken_name: The idea for the commission of the crime originated with the police. That's why it is entrapment. I am not saying, nor did I ever say, that all online crime arrests are entrapment. But this one was.

OK, let's say you are absolutely right and I'm an idiot. Why, then, oh brilliant jurist, why is it that no defense attorney ever poses this defense in these types of cases, and these cases happen almost daily? Why has no attorney shut down the TV show It Takes A Predator for being predatory on predators?

Could it be that there is not one attorney in all of America that is anywhere near as smart and clever as you?

Yes, that must be it. You're brilliant and the entire legal community in America is made up entirely of morons.

May I contribute to your Yale scholarship fund?
 
Skr
2013-09-25 04:52:13 AM
I wonder if anyone hits on online 15 year olds only because they have a cop fetish. Uniforms and role play can be a turn on.
 
2013-09-25 04:53:57 AM

Bigdogdaddy: [brian.hoover.net.au image 520x650]

Ginger kids become ginger adults.  Think about it.


That's a doll, right?
 
2013-09-25 05:05:13 AM
holy crap that's a rough 27
 
2013-09-25 05:09:26 AM

Ed Grubermann: Sullyville: Did anyone ever watch that show Bait Car? I kept thinking this is entrapment, but it somehow never was.

Did the cops force the thieves to steal the cars? Did they badger them to do it? Did they even ask them to do it? No. They just left the cars out on the street. That's not entrapment.

Christ, people. This isn't rocket science.


they did bait car (called something else) in the uk and i dont think they arrested people. it was just to fark with them and humilate them on telly
 
2013-09-25 05:25:00 AM
So he gambled his entire life hoping for something like this:

www.ohwrd.com


I gotta say, I don't see the appeal.  There's nothing there.
 
2013-09-25 05:27:46 AM

untaken_name: Kujira: untaken_name: Somacandra: In b4 ENTRAPMENT!!!11!!!

Yeah, why would anyone think that the law enforcement agency induced this crime? Oh, because the guy was "responding to an online advertisement posted by a Seattle Police Department detective. "

The SPD did not induce him to respond to the ad. The pedo read it, got a hard-on, and responded to it entirely on his own volition.

Creating a situation for someone to commit a crime is not the same as actively encouraging someone to commit a crime.

So setting traps isn't entrapment....well, you're deluded, officer. The online ad was an incitement to commit a crime. When a police officer incites someone to commit a crime and then arrests that person for attempting to commit that crime, it's the very definition of entrapment.


I would tell you to look it up on a law site, but  you wouldn't, so...here:  (nolo.com)

Assessing an Entrapment Defense: Subjective and Objective StandardsStates employ either an objective or a subjective standard to determine whether entrapment occurred.
Objective standard. Under an objective standard, when defendants offer entrapment evidence jurors decide whether a police officer's actions would have induced a normally law-abiding person to commit a crime.Subjective standard. Entrapment defenses are less likely to succeed under a subjective standard. The reason is that under a subjective standard, when a defendant offers entrapment evidence, jurors decide whether the defendant's predisposition to commit the crime makes the defendant responsible for his or her actions, regardless of any government agent's inducements. (Learn more about criminal intent in Nolo's article <a data-cke-saved-href="http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/crime-ment al-state-defendant-29 951.html">How Defendants' Mental States Affect Their Responsibility for a Crime.)Case Example. Let's say Jim is charged with serving as a lookout during a liquor store robbery carried out by a street gang. Jim claims that Snitch, a neighborhood friend who turned out to be an undercover police officer, entrapped him by telling him that he had to participate in the robbery or Snitch would be unable to protect him from gang retribution. In a state that employs an objective test for entrapment, a jury decides whether Snitch's actions would have induced a normally law-abiding person to participate in the robbery. In a state that employs a subjective test for entrapment, the prosecutor can offer evidence of Jim's predisposition to commit the crime, including that Jim had a lengthy rap sheet and that he was anxious to join the street gang and wanted to prove his mettle by participating in a violent crime. A jury would then decide whether Jim participated in the robbery out of his own willingness to do so, regardless of Snitch's actions.

So unless a cop is providing an ad that would enduce a normally law abiding citizen into offering money for sex with a 15 year old, there is no WAY this is entrapment.  Its dirty, its unfair, it is in no way moral, and it is a lie.  But cops are allowed to lie to you.
 
2013-09-25 06:08:18 AM
Isn't that the reason men get into teaching little girls. Not surprised.
 
2013-09-25 06:11:18 AM

Full Metal Retard: So he gambled his entire life hoping for something like this:

[www.ohwrd.com image 640x442]


I gotta say, I don't see the appeal.  There's nothing there.


that's really disturbing. im telling myself she's a young looking 18
 
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