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(Slate)   "I'm a hipster and I'm proud of it," says hipster columnist who may have given all hipsters everywhere a moment of doubt   (slate.com) divider line 74
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2013-09-25 04:07:07 AM
  TFA: I am a hipster and I'm not ashamed of it.

You will be. Give it time.
 
2013-09-25 04:42:09 AM

JerkyMeat: TFA: I am a hipster and I'm not ashamed of it.

You will be. Give it time.


Aided by this sentence: "Today the perpetually splintering brackets of contemporary demographic specificity engender an eternal anxiety of self, one in which we're meant to renew our vows of identity with regularity. "

Yeesh. You're a human walking the earth. Get over it.

/get off my lawn
 
2013-09-25 04:45:11 AM
You know, I'm going downtown in Austin, TX, and yelling that in the street. As one of the least cool people I've ever been, I can only imagine the cartoonish scene - nothing but tight jeans, beards and ironic t-shirts on the ground where a whole lot of trend followers used to be..
 
2013-09-25 04:47:37 AM
The defining trait of the hipster is not allegiance to irony, but rather the dedication to authenticity, one aspect of which is to ironically do things that are blatantly uncool to prove how, in knowing how uncool it is, you are able to authentically represent yourself in the uncool thing.

Facial hair is uncool, and the hipster knows it's uncool, so the more uncool he wears his facial hair, the more he is able to show his actual coolness by engaging in the facial hair sporting with a wink and a nod.

This search for authenticity is why hipsters look for obscure things, because a mainstream thing could not possibly be authentic, having to have been forced by the mob to sever the truly unique aspects in order to appeal to a mass audience.

The hipster seeks authenticity because his life is otherwise meaningless. He has no personal authenticity and hipsterism is an attempt to achieve authenticity through the adoption of (what are to him) authentic things.
 
2013-09-25 04:48:03 AM
What the author fails to understand is that one can be perfectly content engaging with new forms of music and media, going to galleries, trying adventurous dishes etc without focusing on publicising one's own self. Do you dress for fashion or for comfort? If the answer is always one or the other you are self-obsessed or really old.  Clawing for identity determination is something most of us got over at university (yes, the 90's for me as well), but when one's personality is still defined by definition, and THE DAILY MARKETING of that self-definition, then you get the hipster.
 
2013-09-25 04:48:59 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: The defining trait of the hipster is not allegiance to irony, but rather the dedication to authenticity, one aspect of which is to ironically do things that are blatantly uncool to prove how, in knowing how uncool it is, you are able to authentically represent yourself in the uncool thing.

Facial hair is uncool, and the hipster knows it's uncool, so the more uncool he wears his facial hair, the more he is able to show his actual coolness by engaging in the facial hair sporting with a wink and a nod.

This search for authenticity is why hipsters look for obscure things, because a mainstream thing could not possibly be authentic, having to have been forced by the mob to sever the truly unique aspects in order to appeal to a mass audience.

The hipster seeks authenticity because his life is otherwise meaningless. He has no personal authenticity and hipsterism is an attempt to achieve authenticity through the adoption of (what are to him) authentic things.


you sound like a hipster. it's just a phase
 
2013-09-25 04:50:59 AM

ladyfortuna: JerkyMeat: TFA: I am a hipster and I'm not ashamed of it.

You will be. Give it time.

Aided by this sentence: "Today the perpetually splintering brackets of contemporary demographic specificity engender an eternal anxiety of self, one in which we're meant to renew our vows of identity with regularity. "

Yeesh. You're a human walking the earth. Get over it.

/get off my lawn


Came here to quote that sentence. Good God I thought I was having a stroke.
 
2013-09-25 04:54:05 AM
This is why god created napalm.
 
2013-09-25 04:56:21 AM
You know, we created hipsters. They are the direct result of our current socio economic model. To wit:

It is nearly impossible for anyone without an education these days to obtain a job that pays more than minimum wage, even a full time job that pays minimum wage is out of the reach of many who do fall to this level. You cannot live off this amount of money in our society, hence parents encourage children to get advanced degrees at university.

Now, here is where we are making hipsters -

We send these kids to college, they get degrees in art history and English literature (TFA writer, case in point!) and then cannot participate in the economy because they STILL do not have marketable skills required for gainful employment.

At that point, I believe the only recourse is the rejection of the commercialism and economic model that our society is based on. To wit: If you cannot participate, then you will hang on the fringes and rationalize why you cannot participate as being choice.

Essentially we've created a class of educated poor, of which most of the current crop of hipsters spring from.

Now to me, the truly interesting part is that we've created so many of them that they've formed their own sub-culture based around the rejection of societal norms. These guys are like hippies, except not by choice, but instead by force of circumstances. I can't help but wonder what impact they are going to have on society and if they will morph into callous bastards like the boomers did.
 
2013-09-25 04:57:24 AM
Mr. O'neil, what you've just wrote is one of the most insanely idiotic things I've ever read.  At no point in your rambling, incoherent article were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought.  Everyone who clicked on your link is now dumber for having read it.  I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
 
2013-09-25 04:59:22 AM
Meh, the hate-train for hipsterism ran out of steam a while ago.

Hate towards "foodies" and anti-gluten fadders is the new hotness.
 
2013-09-25 05:00:57 AM

Agarista: Do you dress for fashion or for comfort? If the answer is always one or the other you are self-obsessed


How is always dressing for comfort self-obsessed? How does it make one old? Just curious.
 
2013-09-25 05:01:56 AM

super_grass: Meh, the hate-train for hipsterism ran out of steam a while ago.

Hate towards "foodies" and anti-gluten fadders is the new hotness.


Foodies are one subset of hipsters.
 
2013-09-25 05:03:00 AM

robohobo: Agarista: Do you dress for fashion or for comfort? If the answer is always one or the other you are self-obsessed

How is always dressing for comfort self-obsessed? How does it make one old? Just curious.


if the answer is ALWAYS.....

My response is relevant only when there is mutual exclusivity
 
2013-09-25 05:11:54 AM

August11: ladyfortuna: JerkyMeat: TFA: I am a hipster and I'm not ashamed of it.

You will be. Give it time.

Aided by this sentence: "Today the perpetually splintering brackets of contemporary demographic specificity engender an eternal anxiety of self, one in which we're meant to renew our vows of identity with regularity. "

Yeesh. You're a human walking the earth. Get over it.

/get off my lawn

Came here to quote that sentence. Good God I thought I was having a stroke.


Seriously.  First year Philosophy and Psych are never a good mix.
 
2013-09-25 05:14:16 AM

darkjezter: Mr. O'neil, what you've just wrote is one of the most insanely idiotic things I've ever read.  At no point in your rambling, incoherent article were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought.  Everyone who clicked on your link is now dumber for having read it.  I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.


I laughed. Although, I hate myself for knowing that this is from Billy Madison....
 
2013-09-25 05:14:31 AM

deffuse: August11: ladyfortuna: JerkyMeat: TFA: I am a hipster and I'm not ashamed of it.

You will be. Give it time.

Aided by this sentence: "Today the perpetually splintering brackets of contemporary demographic specificity engender an eternal anxiety of self, one in which we're meant to renew our vows of identity with regularity. "

Yeesh. You're a human walking the earth. Get over it.

/get off my lawn

Came here to quote that sentence. Good God I thought I was having a stroke.

Seriously.  First year Philosophy and Psych are never a good mix.


essentially wanting to belong, while not wanting to appear to want to belong?
 
2013-09-25 05:18:03 AM

Lady J: deffuse: August11: ladyfortuna: JerkyMeat: TFA: I am a hipster and I'm not ashamed of it.

You will be. Give it time.

Aided by this sentence: "Today the perpetually splintering brackets of contemporary demographic specificity engender an eternal anxiety of self, one in which we're meant to renew our vows of identity with regularity. "

Yeesh. You're a human walking the earth. Get over it.

/get off my lawn

Came here to quote that sentence. Good God I thought I was having a stroke.

Seriously.  First year Philosophy and Psych are never a good mix.

essentially wanting to belong, while not wanting to appear to want to belong?


Whoa whoa WHOA.... that's like Machiavellian and Jungian and alllllll sorts of Freudian.   There can't be something without nothing.
 
2013-09-25 05:31:17 AM
Im a 44 yr old white guy.I believe in Jesus. Im republican but voted for Obama ( and vote for whoever I think is the best or least evil).Got a job as a custodian that I like and a face I dont. I fight the battle of the bulge and tend to lose ground. I stopped smoking in '00 and have never been a drinker. I eat well and excerise on my mountain bike daily. Im an accomplished abstract artist with more 'fans' ( for lack of a better adj) than an amature like me deserves. Ive two wonderfull neices that I shamelessly dote on and two female 'friends' who are way too lovely for a shmo like me who nevertheless find me agreeable. I couldnt ask for more.
 Hipsters and their ilk seem to be defined more by hollow personalities than anything else.If you're to enfeebled to lay hold of what gives you joy because you need to keep your hands free i to grab a piece of whatever everyone else seems to be grabbing at then you're a miserable wretch and all the fashionable clothes wont change that.

Im happy , warts and all. That I dont get invited to party at the hotspots doesnt cost me sleep.
 
2013-09-25 05:34:58 AM
"My initial surprise was replaced by a stark realization: as a 30-something skinnyish urban male there's almost nothing I can wear that won't make me look like a hipster,"


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HIPSTER                                                                     HIPSTER

www.bangkokmafia.comimagesmat.ctscdn.com


HIPSTER                                                                       HIPSTER

www.positive-magazine.comsuncoast4rent.com
HIPSTER                                                                HIPSTER


 
2013-09-25 05:36:52 AM

SuddenlySamhain: Im a 44 yr old white guy.I believe in Jesus. Im republican but voted for Obama ( and vote for whoever I think is the best or least evil).Got a job as a custodian that I like and a face I dont. I fight the battle of the bulge and tend to lose ground. I stopped smoking in '00 and have never been a drinker. I eat well and excerise on my mountain bike daily. Im an accomplished abstract artist with more 'fans' ( for lack of a better adj) than an amature like me deserves. Ive two wonderfull neices that I shamelessly dote on and two female 'friends' who are way too lovely for a shmo like me who nevertheless find me agreeable. I couldnt ask for more.
 Hipsters and their ilk seem to be defined more by hollow personalities than anything else.If you're to enfeebled to lay hold of what gives you joy because you need to keep your hands free i to grab a piece of whatever everyone else seems to be grabbing at then you're a miserable wretch and all the fashionable clothes wont change that.

Im happy , warts and all. That I dont get invited to party at the hotspots doesnt cost me sleep.


If they knew how self-satisfied you were, they'd probably be more friendly to you.
 
2013-09-25 05:37:53 AM
As with many fashionable trends, we need to differentiate between the aesthetic and the lifestyle.
 
2013-09-25 05:38:32 AM

SpeedBBRRT: darkjezter: Mr. O'neil, what you've just wrote is one of the most insanely idiotic things I've ever read.  At no point in your rambling, incoherent article were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought.  Everyone who clicked on your link is now dumber for having read it.  I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

I laughed. Although, I hate myself for knowing that this is from Billy Madison....


Eh, his older films were alright. Wait. Am I a hipster for saying that?
 
2013-09-25 05:39:12 AM
Rule one of being a hipster: Don't ever admit to being a hipster.
 
2013-09-25 06:00:25 AM
Dude has biceps, works out. Very unhip. Most likely a bro masquerading as a hipster.  Plus he "literally remembers the '90s". That makes him a "grampa" in hipster speak. So he probably gets a lot of action from hipster chicks with daddy issues. Which is nice.
 
2013-09-25 06:00:34 AM

SuddenlySamhain: Im a 44 yr old white guy.I believe in Jesus. Im republican but voted for Obama ( and vote for whoever I think is the best or least evil).Got a job as a custodian that I like and a face I dont. I fight the battle of the bulge and tend to lose ground. I stopped smoking in '00 and have never been a drinker. I eat well and excerise on my mountain bike daily. Im an accomplished abstract artist with more 'fans' ( for lack of a better adj) than an amature like me deserves. Ive two wonderfull neices that I shamelessly dote on and two female 'friends' who are way too lovely for a shmo like me who nevertheless find me agreeable. I couldnt ask for more.
 Hipsters and their ilk seem to be defined more by hollow personalities than anything else.If you're to enfeebled to lay hold of what gives you joy because you need to keep your hands free i to grab a piece of whatever everyone else seems to be grabbing at then you're a miserable wretch and all the fashionable clothes wont change that.

Im happy , warts and all. That I dont get invited to party at the hotspots doesnt cost me sleep.


im not sure what most of this has got to do with the price of fish. the fact you seem at such great pains to tell us how happy you are and how much you dont care that you dont get invited to achingly hip parties, suggests you secretly cry yourself to sleep

i dont know why im being such a biatch. time for another coffee
 
2013-09-25 06:14:41 AM
No, pal, you're just an asshole.

www.digitalmusicinsider.com

Trust me on this one.
 
2013-09-25 06:20:13 AM
For me, it's not the fashion choices, the "ironic" facial hair, or even the Pabst Blue Ribbon. It's the blatant pretension, styling themselves to get as much attention as possible at any cost while harboring the need to be a special snowflake that stands above anyone else. I'd be more on their side if they'd chill on the utter contempt they show toward anyone "not in the know".
 
2013-09-25 06:21:30 AM

super_grass: Meh, the hate-train for hipsterism ran out of steam a while ago.

Hate towards "foodies" and anti-gluten fadders is the new hotness.


I want to know when we are going to do something about those goddamn Belgians.
 
2013-09-25 06:22:11 AM
Hipster is the new Douchebag.
 
2013-09-25 06:26:56 AM

Herr Morgenstern: For me, it's not the fashion choices, the "ironic" facial hair, or even the Pabst Blue Ribbon. It's the blatant pretension, styling themselves to get as much attention as possible at any cost while harboring the need to be a special snowflake that stands above anyone else. I'd be more on their side if they'd chill on the utter contempt they show toward anyone "not in the know".


does this actually exist, or are you imagining it / making it up because you don't like how they dress or that they like different music to you?
 
2013-09-25 06:29:04 AM
"I'm a hipster and I'mwas proud of it before it was cool"

Ftfy hipster
 
2013-09-25 06:32:10 AM
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-09-25 06:39:28 AM
I'm pretty sure that's a big fat troll article. Either that, or it's now hip to say you are now a hipster, whereas 10 minutes ago, you could only be hip if you acted like, but denied being a hipster. Either way, we need a new world war to draft them all and thin them out. Used to be that killing someone made a man out of you real quick.

/onion on my belt
 
2013-09-25 06:40:57 AM
FTA  "Without hipsters there would literally be no art, no music..."

Well, he's got the self-important douchebag part down...reminds of the yuppies in the 80's.
 
2013-09-25 06:47:03 AM
You're also a shiatty writer
 
2013-09-25 07:11:42 AM
If a hipster thinks that being a hipster is cool, aren't they by definition no longer a hipster, but just a weird person?
 
2013-09-25 07:18:42 AM
You said "To Wit" twice.

TwistedFark: You know, we created hipsters. They are the direct result of our current socio economic model. To wit:

It is nearly impossible for anyone without an education these days to obtain a job that pays more than minimum wage, even a full time job that pays minimum wage is out of the reach of many who do fall to this level. You cannot live off this amount of money in our society, hence parents encourage children to get advanced degrees at university.

Now, here is where we are making hipsters -

We send these kids to college, they get degrees in art history and English literature (TFA writer, case in point!) and then cannot participate in the economy because they STILL do not have marketable skills required for gainful employment.

At that point, I believe the only recourse is the rejection of the commercialism and economic model that our society is based on. To wit: If you cannot participate, then you will hang on the fringes and rationalize why you cannot participate as being choice.

Essentially we've created a class of educated poor, of which most of the current crop of hipsters spring from.

Now to me, the truly interesting part is that we've created so many of them that they've formed their own sub-culture based around the rejection of societal norms. These guys are like hippies, except not by choice, but instead by force of circumstances. I can't help but wonder what impact they are going to have on society and if they will morph into callous bastards like the boomers did.

 
2013-09-25 07:19:58 AM
Personally, I believe "hipsterism" to be the natural extension of a lack of forced maturity on people considered "adults".

Without a traditional demarcation between "child" and "adult" (as with generations coming of age in the 40's and 50's), "hipsters" are too old to listen to their parents yet are still adolescent in nature (so-called "kids with means").

It is this lack of maturity and desire for self-expression and acceptance that breeds this phenomenon. Since it has evolved over several generations (since the 60's), it has crept upon and been mildly reacted to by society, as opposed to a sudden change in behavior or tendencies.

/be yourself
//don't be a douche
///get off my lawn, modern-day hippies
 
2013-09-25 07:25:50 AM
Having become the victim of a family member afflicted with "hipster", I've come to realise how many hipsters were hidden in plain sight around us

I thought that for the most part, it was harmless, as long as they kept it to themselves, but there are a small number who act out, and when the victim begins to broadcsat it becomes dangerous.

You look back on that day when you might have intevened and changed the course of the decline with minimal effort with no small regret. When the hipster advertised his "art show" at a loved ones funeral, and no one would have blamed you for smacking him in the head and urging him to get his priorities straight, it all could have changed.

But you missed the opportunity. Now? Now he's the kind of douche that not only seeks out the last of the Internet Cafes, but brings a typewriter, and yet somehow still tweets about it.
 
2013-09-25 07:30:35 AM
That article reads like a Thesaurus threw up all over it
 
2013-09-25 07:37:42 AM
The one single defining trait I've noticed of all hipsters is they spend an inordinate amount of time  labeling other people  as hipsters.
 
2013-09-25 07:42:05 AM
Speaking as a 30-something skinnyish urban male with friends who are all also 30-something skinnyish urban males I can say with 100% certainty that it is most certainly possible to dress yourself without looking like a hipster.

Several of us even wear glasses.

Of course, none of us are bloggers, artists, writers, clerks at an ironic record store or dipshiat coffee shop baristas.
 
2013-09-25 07:47:01 AM
I'm just jealous of the new "beard and pompadour fashionable male" hipster

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I'm bald and not allowed to grow a beard. Life is a b*tch
 
2013-09-25 08:05:00 AM

InmanRoshi: The one single defining trait I've noticed of all hipsters is they spend an inordinate amount of time  labeling other people  as hipsters.


Well actually their one defining trait is that they spend an inordinate amount of time and money to dress and act "differently" from the "mundanes" or the "things that have been done before", yet strangely they all dress and act virtually the same way and much of their clothing and ideas are just a messy mishmash of "things that have been done before." (e.g. clothing and music taken from other subcultures [usually redefined or mixed up to fit the Hipster mentality], outdated technology like typewriters, and coffee and beer... LOTS of coffee and beer) They all queue up for the "latest thing", such as Ramen Burgers, Cronuts, the "new organic, free range breakfast place that is 'so great' because it 'just opened'" with only the idea that it's new making it good and not by judging the quality by other standards. (such as: pooling the opinions of prior patrons and looking for "good" or "bad" patterns) It's not that we would hate them for being themselves, it's just how they act judgmentally towards others and try to pretend being unique while wearing the mixed styles (really confusing) of a Hippie, a Punk, a Goth, a Mod, and their grandpa's hat!
 
2013-09-25 08:10:31 AM
You just admitted to being a hipster.  This means you're not a hipster.
 
2013-09-25 08:11:19 AM

InmanRoshi: The one single defining trait I've noticed of all hipsters is they spend an inordinate amount of time  labeling other people  as hipsters.


As they say, if you've ever walked into a bar and said "look at all the hipsters in here", that means you're a hipster.
 
2013-09-25 08:11:56 AM

super_grass: Meh, the hate-train for hipsterism ran out of steam a while ago.

Hate towards "foodies" and anti-gluten fadders is the new hotness.


I've got enough hate to go around.  If you define yourself and others by the things you/they like instead of how you/they act, just go farking die.
 
2013-09-25 08:17:10 AM
i124.photobucket.com
 
2013-09-25 08:20:00 AM

ladyfortuna: JerkyMeat: TFA: I am a hipster and I'm not ashamed of it.

You will be. Give it time.

Aided by this sentence: "Today the perpetually splintering brackets of contemporary demographic specificity engender an eternal anxiety of self, one in which we're meant to renew our vows of identity with regularity. "

Yeesh. You're a human walking the earth. Get over it.

/get off my lawn


Despite the effort to sound intellectual and important, the sentence is all flash, and doesn't convey much meaning to its audience. Much like hipsters themselves.
 
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