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2013-09-25 01:04:46 AM
noheadphones:

Try to come up with an original thought instead of playing with pictures.

Oh wait! Never mind.


Like the "Thought" that Obamacare is actually a Republican idea (thank you SOOO much for pointing that out, Mr. Helper) and us Dems should be totally against it because of that? And how NOT doing that makes us completely in the sack for Obama? Is that how your non-partisan behavior plays itself out? Fack... I knew the gop was full of morons, but then here you come and prove it beyond any doubt!
 
2013-09-25 01:06:20 AM
noheadphones: I like it. Maybe the one thing Ted Cruz has done that I agree with.

Obamacare is very bad--if you hated the health care industry before, it's now going to get massive, defense industry level.


noheadphones: Being that the ACA is basically Republican in nature, you should be against it.

noheadphones: I'm not making it a dem v republican argument, because it isn't one....Oh and Obama is a right leaning authoritarian

OK, you're a flat-out liar, then. Why should anyone listen to a liar?
 
2013-09-25 01:07:37 AM
Don't forget that Democrats are at least  trying to make things better.
They believe in progress.  That's why they are called Progressives.
So what if the ACA is basically Republican in nature.
That actually does not matter to Progressives.
If it is better than what we have now then it is progress, so it is good.
The best part comes later, after the ACA is law and the sky doesn't fall and the world doesn't end like the Regressives say it will.
Later, we'll make it single-payer as it should be.
Baby steps.
The world didn't end when Massachusetts allowed gay marriage.
The world didn't end when Queer Eye was a successful television show.
Sane people are no longer worried about catching gay fever or being forced to get gay married.
Sane people are no longer worried about the end of traditional marriage.
An soon, very soon, gays will be allowed to marry in every state.
Progress doesn't happen over night.
Progress is leading us to fully socialized medicine.
The ACA is just a baby step.
It is a baby step that you are powerless to stop.
 
2013-09-25 01:08:35 AM
Oooh, note to self.  See about getting someone to add some sort of "truth serum" to the water next time a Republican tries this.

Ought to be good for hours of amusement, watching a Republican who has decided to be talkative go at it while under the influence.
 
2013-09-25 01:08:56 AM

Dimensio: Cruz says he'll talk until 'I am no longer able to stand'

Is any Senator equipped with a crowbar?


Cruz is a lightweight.  He'll only last a few hours.
 
2013-09-25 01:12:44 AM

TheWhoppah: Don't forget that Democrats are at least  trying to make things better.
They believe in progress.  That's why they are called Progressives.
So what if the ACA is basically Republican in nature.
That actually does not matter to Progressives.
If it is better than what we have now then it is progress, so it is good.
The best part comes later, after the ACA is law and the sky doesn't fall and the world doesn't end like the Regressives say it will.
Later, we'll make it single-payer as it should be.
Baby steps.
The world didn't end when Massachusetts allowed gay marriage.
The world didn't end when Queer Eye was a successful television show.
Sane people are no longer worried about catching gay fever or being forced to get gay married.
Sane people are no longer worried about the end of traditional marriage.
An soon, very soon, gays will be allowed to marry in every state.
Progress doesn't happen over night.
Progress is leading us to fully socialized medicine.
The ACA is just a baby step.
It is a baby step that you are powerless to stop.


All this is true, no doubt, but you kinda forgot to mention every baby step is slammed back heavily by a wall of fear, ignorance, Jesus, greed, corruption, outright evil and prejudice.
 
2013-09-25 01:14:23 AM
Flipping thru the channels and landed on c-span. Cruz was talking about chicken pot pies and woodpeckers. Defund Obamacare so dinosaurs won't go extinct.
 
2013-09-25 01:31:33 AM
[drags someone out behind the sauna, puts him out of our misery]
 
2013-09-25 01:31:35 AM

noheadphones: I'm not making it a dem v republican argument


You say that after calling it Republican. Awesome. Progressives were actually not thrilled with the plan, BTW, but happy that it was finally a step in the right direction. That was my position on it, too. Unlike the teahadists, I support incremental change vs. holding the government hostage to get every single thing I want all at once.
 
2013-09-25 01:38:35 AM
If Bamster is a "right-leaning authoritarian", as some forgotten liar claims, why isn't every hick and redneck in FreeRepublic burning incense to him?
 
2013-09-25 01:44:01 AM
Now, Mike Lee is talking about not wanting ice cream and how his dad ran over his foot because of it.
 
2013-09-25 02:06:45 AM

DamnYankees: But it won't even accomplish that. At least Rand Paul's filibuster was (i) actually a filibuster and (ii) raised the profile of a serious issue, even though it was raised stupidly and in bad faith. This is literally nothing more than a man who wants to talk keep talking for absolutely no reason.


And by all accounts, he's just talking about himself.
 
2013-09-25 02:06:56 AM

noheadphones: The point is that people are toeing party lines without looking at the facts of the bill, and what it does for corporations. Something that some supposed progressives would be typically against.


You definitely sound CONCERNED.
 
2013-09-25 02:09:56 AM
Dude wants to talk all night to an empty house? Knock yourself out kid. Its not like they were going to vote on a CR @ 2:00 am 6 days out anyway.
 
2013-09-25 02:25:35 AM

Peki: almandot: 12349876: NeoCortex42: I wish there was a rule during "filibusters": only questions from dissenting opinions can be asked. No more of this "My question is why are you so awesome?" BS.

I'd be okay with the Dems dishing out some trolling BS.  Like "When are you going to officially renounce your Canadian citizenship?"

I moderately enjoy Cruz's comebacks after the Dem questions he got. I wish we had the parliament for debates.

I would *love* a U.S. version of Canada's Question Period. That shiat is awesome TV.


It will never happen, because that is not how the US government is set up.  Parliamentary systems can have a question period because certain members of the legislature, i.e the PM and his Cabinet, are also members of the executive.  A member of the legislature can obviously question another member of the legislature.  But since the US system separates the legislature and executive (excepting the weird VP situation) into two equal branches, there is no way to make the President answer questions from Congress, outside of possible impeachment proceedings.  If the legislature can call the executive to the carpet at will, it is prima facie more powerful.  But, it isn't, thus if Congress were to try and force the President to play 20 questions, he would tell them to fark off.  Actually, he does tell them to fark off, said fark off being referred to as executive privilege by the non-Lenny Bruce set.  If you want a "Questions" scenario, you need to burn the Constitution and adopt a Westminster-style government.  Note: I'm not saying you shouldn't burn the Constitution and adopt a Westminster-style government, just that it is a necessary preliminary to getting the head of the government to prevaricate before besotted backbencher pederasts on national television.
 
2013-09-25 02:33:48 AM
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a BSC link
 
2013-09-25 02:40:51 AM
So Ted Cruz is talking all night so he can FAKE-filibuster the vote on HIS OWN PARTY'S BILL?

It was crazy enough when they were threatening to for-real-filibuster the vote on their own bill. But PRETENDING to filibuster their own bill is out-Colbert'ing Colbert.
 
2013-09-25 03:09:38 AM
Aw, poor Ted Cruz - he's still butthurt that Wendy Davis was able to show him up by filibustering for 12 hours straight, so he has to go through all this pointless wankery to prove that his labia is bigger than hers.
 
2013-09-25 03:14:45 AM
hahahahahaha widdle Cruzypoo only lasted an hour or so

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA wussy
 
2013-09-25 03:42:10 AM
Cruz now just said that if he's ever about to be run over by a Buick, he wants Mike Lee's foot between him and the car. Lee corrected Cruz that it was an Oldsmobile that his dad used to run over his foot for not wanting ice cream.
 
2013-09-25 04:15:21 AM
"Atlas shrugged sales have exploded because we are living in Ayn Rand's time."

huh.
 
2013-09-25 06:07:13 AM
I'm sure this has been asked 100 times, but why is he filibustering his own party's bill?

I mean, other than the fact that this is a transparent stunt he's using to bolster a 2016 presidential bid, that is...
 
2013-09-25 06:32:09 AM

The Homer Tax: I'm sure this has been asked 100 times, but why is he filibustering his own party's bill?


DamnYankees: This is endlessly hilarious - he's literally just giving a long speech. That's it. it's not a filibuster, as C-SPAN helpfully explained:


img.fark.net
 
2013-09-25 06:43:43 AM

Ishidan: NeoCortex42: Cruz's eyes look like he's about to fall asleep standing up.

And if he does, and smacks his head on a table on the way down, you may be assured that his healthcare insurance will see about patching him up.
If you fall over from fatigue thanks to juggling two 29.5 hour/wk jobs (no compensation for time spent commuting between the two!)...son, you're on your own.


That's not even 60 hours a week. I regularly have more than that in by lunchtime on Thursday. And I usually work on Saturdays, too. On one job.

I laugh at 40 hour work weeks.
 
2013-09-25 06:49:14 AM
Yeah, he'll stop yammering when it's time to vote and the bill gets sent back to the House without the defunding..,

This is nothing but a useless waste of time (something the GOP has become good at) and essentially a retarded dog and pony show for the cretins who still vote GOP.
 
2013-09-25 07:16:46 AM
Still going...
 
2013-09-25 07:32:33 AM
Hmm....a Cuban/Canadian threatening to disrupt the US economy?  This guy should be in Gitmo right now.

/with bombers ready to head to Ottawa and Havana.
 
2013-09-25 07:37:58 AM

Zerochance: I said this in an earlier thread, but much more relevant here.

It's not altogether too dumb a move.  Teatards don't know and don't care about how government works, and they eat this kind of political theater up like it's puppy chow.  They'll flood him with cash come election time.


Loonies or Pesos?
 
2013-09-25 07:59:08 AM

The Homer Tax: I'm sure this has been asked 100 times, but why is he filibustering his own party's bill?

I mean, other than the fact that this is a transparent stunt he's using to bolster a 2016 presidential bid, that is...


He isn't filibustering a bill, he's filibustering Obamacare!  If he can keep it up long enough, then the President has to defund Obamacare, and then resign - but only after naming Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachmann or maybe Ted Cruz as heir to the throne of America 2.0.

/It's in the Constitution
//don't need to look it up
///I can feel it
 
2013-09-25 08:27:42 AM

phalamir: Peki: almandot: 12349876: NeoCortex42: I wish there was a rule during "filibusters": only questions from dissenting opinions can be asked. No more of this "My question is why are you so awesome?" BS.

I'd be okay with the Dems dishing out some trolling BS.  Like "When are you going to officially renounce your Canadian citizenship?"

I moderately enjoy Cruz's comebacks after the Dem questions he got. I wish we had the parliament for debates.

I would *love* a U.S. version of Canada's Question Period. That shiat is awesome TV.

It will never happen, because that is not how the US government is set up.  Parliamentary systems can have a question period because certain members of the legislature, i.e the PM and his Cabinet, are also members of the executive.  A member of the legislature can obviously question another member of the legislature.  But since the US system separates the legislature and executive (excepting the weird VP situation) into two equal branches, there is no way to make the President answer questions from Congress, outside of possible impeachment proceedings.  If the legislature can call the executive to the carpet at will, it is prima facie more powerful.  But, it isn't, thus if Congress were to try and force the President to play 20 questions, he would tell them to fark off.  Actually, he does tell them to fark off, said fark off being referred to as executive privilege by the non-Lenny Bruce set.  If you want a "Questions" scenario, you need to burn the Constitution and adopt a Westminster-style government.  Note: I'm not saying you shouldn't burn the Constitution and adopt a Westminster-style government, just that it is a necessary preliminary to getting the head of the government to prevaricate before besotted backbencher pederasts on national television.


In terms of the executive, you are absolutely correct. Remember though, your legislature is the body that passes law and controls the purse. A Question period does not have to be limited to the executive. In a Westminister type parliament system there is no executive branch per se although the PM and cabinet act that role de facto, they are first and foremost legislators.
 
2013-09-25 08:40:00 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: mediablitz: Has anyone told him ObamaCare is part of mandatory funding, and this will have little to no effect on its implementation?

No? Good! Let him find out the hard way.

He doesn't strike me as one who would let reality stand in the way of a truly meaningless gesture



Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor!?!?!
 
2013-09-25 08:46:42 AM
So this isn't a filibuster? Does Cruz know that? Is he still going?
 
2013-09-25 08:47:18 AM

KeatingFive: Last I heard a few months ago, most said they didn't like it, but when polled on the individual provisions, said they liked them.


I found this little tidbit in a Charles Krauthammer article from 2010:

Obama was reduced to suggesting that his health-care reform was indeed popular because when you ask people about individual items (for example, eliminating exclusions for preexisting conditions or capping individual out-of-pocket payments), they are in favor.

Yet mystifyingly they oppose the whole package. How can that be?

Allow me to demystify. Imagine a bill granting every American a free federally delivered ice cream every Sunday morning. Provision 2: steak on Monday, also home delivered. Provision 3: a dozen red roses every Tuesday. You get the idea. Would each individual provision be popular in the polls? Of course.

However (life is a vale of howevers) suppose these provisions were bundled into a bill that also spelled out how the goodies are to be paid for and managed -- say, half a trillion dollars in new taxes, half a trillion in Medicare cuts (cuts not to keep Medicare solvent but to pay for the ice cream, steak and flowers), 118 new boards and commissions to administer the bounty-giving, and government regulation dictating, for example, how your steak is to be cooked. How do you think this would poll?
 
2013-09-25 08:53:00 AM
Cruz was just trying to prove that Ron Jeremy isn't the only guy who can suck his own dick.
 
2013-09-25 08:54:41 AM
more like obama-DON'T-care...mirite??????
 
2013-09-25 08:57:27 AM

KeatingFive: Yeah, by posting it everywhere online and letting everyone read it , they prevented people from finding out what was in it.

Just curious, could you post without lying, if you wanted to? I know you DON'T want to, but could you?


Here's the money quote:

"House Democrats appear to be softening their pledge to allow the public 72 hours to review the health care reform package online before a House vote. "We will certainly give as much notice as possible, but I'm not going to say that 72 hours is going to be the litmus test," said Majority Leader Steny Hoyer on Friday.

This was posted on March 14, 2010, so this indicates the Friday before March 14th, 2010, whatever day that was.  Less than 72 hours to read a 2,700 page bill.  So tell me, am I lying?

"I'm a little bit taken aback that now that 72-hour rule has been completely cast aside, since nobody in the House has seen what's in the reconciliation bill," said Rep. Eric Cantor, R-Virginia.
 
2013-09-25 09:04:45 AM

SlothB77: KeatingFive: Yeah, by posting it everywhere online and letting everyone read it , they prevented people from finding out what was in it.

Just curious, could you post without lying, if you wanted to? I know you DON'T want to, but could you?

Here's the money quote:

"House Democrats appear to be softening their pledge to allow the public 72 hours to review the health care reform package online before a House vote. "We will certainly give as much notice as possible, but I'm not going to say that 72 hours is going to be the litmus test," said Majority Leader Steny Hoyer on Friday.

This was posted on March 14, 2010, so this indicates the Friday before March 14th, 2010, whatever day that was.  Less than 72 hours to read a 2,700 page bill.  So tell me, am I lying?

"I'm a little bit taken aback that now that 72-hour rule has been completely cast aside, since nobody in the House has seen what's in the reconciliation bill," said Rep. Eric Cantor, R-Virginia.


I've watched the westwing..i know they have droves of college kids who will read it and write a report, you cant fool me
 
2013-09-25 09:34:03 AM

birdmanesq: I mean, I think Obamacare has become a useful strawman on which conservatives can project all manner of domestic ills. Can't get a job? Obamacare. Boss cuts your hours? Obamacare. Falling behind in your mortgage payments? Obamacare. Economy sucks? Obamacare. People are working hard to subsidize folks who are milking the system? Obamacare. Health care costs increase? Obamacare.


This is exactly right. In my company our healthcare premiums went up quite a lot this year. Of course all the Fox News watching teatards in my office spent days biatching about how Obamacare is screwing them over, forcing them to pay more.

When I pointed out that Obamacare has zero effect on our company - we're a lot bigger than 50 people, we already disregard pre-existing conditions, and we're completely SELF INSURED, they quickly changed the subject to how we're all paying an extra 70 bucks per month to cover the additional costs of the exchanges that are being set up, though they couldn't explain who exactly we were paying this money to - exactly ZERO dollars of our premiums are given to the government by the company.

The next day,  the same retards were having the exact same biatch session with some retards from another department, with the same exact complaints, same exact pissing and moaning, same exact "Thanks, Obama" dumbassery.

FNC will be the death of our country.
 
2013-09-25 09:48:01 AM

Soup4Bonnie: "Massive wealth transfer from young healthy people to everyone else."


The thing about young, healthy people is that they NEVER stay that way.
 
2013-09-25 09:50:57 AM

raerae1980: noheadphones: but with pharmaceuticals

My birth control pills are expected to be cheaper.


Slut!
 
2013-09-25 10:42:44 AM

Here's the front page of @SenTedCruz's hometown newspaper today: pic.twitter.com/wboyjOJzMf

- Mo Elleithee (@MoElleithee) September 25, 2013


pbs.twimg.com
 
2013-09-25 11:04:48 AM

Dusk-You-n-Me: Here's the front page of @SenTedCruz's hometown newspaper today: pic.twitter.com/wboyjOJzMf- Mo Elleithee (@MoElleithee) September 25, 2013

[pbs.twimg.com image 523x519]


That's not The Calgary Herald. The high today will be 12C.
 
2013-09-25 11:11:23 AM

noheadphones: Yes SGE is you dumbass.From Bloomberg-Southern California Edison Company, a public utility


Hehe. No, dude. You don't know the difference between public as in government-owned and public as in "company stocks are available to the public for purchase," as opposed to privately owned corporations, whose stock you cannot buy on the market.

From Wikipedia: "Southern California Edison (or SCE Corp), the largest subsidiary of Edison International (NYSE: EIX),  "

That "corp" part is your clue, the stock exchange abbreviation is the confirmation. It's "public" in the investment sort of way, not in the government-owned sort of way.

And finally, I LIVE IN LOS ANGELES. I know who the government utility is (DWP), and isn't (Edison). NO ONE was a fan of Edison during the crisis, and everyone biatched about how they never should have deregulated. And my mother (who was paying the damn bill at the time) confirms that no, the rate hikes during the crisis by the public company were NOT unreasonable, precisely because they were CAPPED by laws over how much they could increase at any one time.

So yeah, just in case you're still here, please please stfu and go read a book so you can learn context before you look like an idiot again.
 
2013-09-25 11:22:42 AM

DamnYankees: This is endlessly hilarious - he's literally just giving a long speech. That's it. it's not a filibuster, as C-SPAN helpfully explained:

[pbs.twimg.com image 599x326]


Good news is, if it's not a legitimate filibuster, there are ways to shut the whole thing down.
 
2013-09-25 11:32:34 AM

russlar: DamnYankees: This is endlessly hilarious - he's literally just giving a long speech. That's it. it's not a filibuster, as C-SPAN helpfully explained:

[pbs.twimg.com image 599x326]

Good news is, if it's not a legitimate filibuster, there are ways to shut the whole thing down.


You owe me a new ipad. That was awesome.
 
2013-09-25 11:54:38 AM
MontanaDave:
That's not even 60 hours a week. I regularly have more than that in by lunchtime on Thursday. And I usually work on Saturdays, too. On one job.

I laugh at 40 hour work weeks.


I'm sure you're proud of yourself.
That post was directed at the people whose employers are actively trying to fark them, by saying "I only hire part time workers and Imma gotta cut yer hours cuz 0bummercare huhuhuh"  I'm told there's a lot of them out there.  They've got a choice-stay with only one job and have short hours, or weave together two or more.  No time and a half for overtime, either.

Or are you working 80 hour weeks on salary?  If so, I sure as hell hope they're paying you commensurately!
 
2013-09-25 01:07:43 PM
The vote is going on now. Did I mis-hear, or did Cruz vote Aye?
 
2013-09-25 01:15:03 PM

NeoCortex42: The vote is going on now. Did I mis-hear, or did Cruz vote Aye?


He probably voted "I".
 
2013-09-25 02:37:36 PM

Ishidan: NeoCortex42: The vote is going on now. Did I mis-hear, or did Cruz vote Aye?

He probably voted "I".


More likely Ay, ay, ay, ay! oh, I am dee Frito Bandito.
 
2013-09-25 02:47:49 PM
Holy shiat, yes....yes he did vote yes......He's a bigger tool than I thought
 
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