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    More: Asinine, Senator Ted Cruz, STFU, Dana Bash, Majority Leader Harry Reid, Mitch McConnell, Party leaders of the United States Senate  
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2013-09-24 07:52:16 PM
Warning:  Reagan fellatio in progress

"Reagan restrained the growth of government spending."
 
2013-09-24 07:55:38 PM
"The Great Depression ended thanks to WWII and the rebound that followed. We won't have that this time, and that's a shame. "

So...solution is WWIII?
 
2013-09-24 07:55:42 PM
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Repubs: I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part!

Cruz: I'm just the guy to do it!
 
2013-09-24 07:55:54 PM
Wait, is this happening now?

/busy officing
 
2013-09-24 07:58:09 PM
Jesus christ.  He's going to keep reading the WSJ piece which doesn't even mention health care at all as if it is the cause of all the world's problems.

"Saving for retirement isn't possible because of Obamacare!"
 
2013-09-24 07:59:04 PM
I am sick of these Canadians.
 
2013-09-24 08:00:19 PM

Cpl.D: Wait, is this happening now?


Yes, but it sounds like he's getting ready to wrap it up because he has two girls.

(I can't explain it.  He makes no sense.)
 
2013-09-24 08:02:47 PM
Oh good.  Bible bed time stories.  We're getting King Solomon's take on Obamacare, I guess.

Also, he couldn't deliver a funny even if he paid Fed Ex to do it for him.
 
2013-09-24 08:03:14 PM
 
2013-09-24 08:05:21 PM
He's reading Green Eggs and Ham....WTF!?
 
2013-09-24 08:06:07 PM
Holy Seussical shiat!

Wouldn't believe it if not watching live.
 
2013-09-24 08:07:17 PM
Cruz is reading Dr. Seuss, "Sam I Am" on the Senate floor.  That's deep.
 
2013-09-24 08:08:36 PM
OMG, he is reading "Green Eggs and Ham". If nothing else, he has totally pegged the intellectual level of his supporters.
 
2013-09-24 08:08:52 PM
Isn't the point of the story that you have to try something first?  Isn't it ironic that he's not trying Obamacare first?
 
2013-09-24 08:09:13 PM

yanceylebeef: Dimensio: Cruz says he'll talk until 'I am no longer able to stand'

Is any Senator equipped with a crowbar?

We need a Gillooly!


Now there's a word I haven't heard in ages. ;)


I hope Carnival Cruz drones on until he craps his drawers, in the loudest and messiest way possible, on live TV.
 
2013-09-24 08:10:04 PM
I like Green Eggs and Ham.   He needs to switch books pronto.  Have him read twilight!
 
2013-09-24 08:10:10 PM
Why are we letting a Canadian hold us hostage again?
 
2013-09-24 08:10:35 PM

wndertwin: Isn't the point of the story that you have to try something first?  Isn't it ironic that he's not trying Obamacare first?


Republicans don't really get themes. That's a little to deep for them.
 
2013-09-24 08:11:35 PM

Soup4Bonnie: noheadphones: Obamacare is very bad

Why?


It's like with the defense industry--if you can only go to one place to get something, or if you have a multi-billion dollar contract with some entity, or corporation, you can only buy those goods and services from one place.  Any price can be set for that service.

I'm not talking about patient care via a doctor's office per se, but with pharmaceuticals.  And surgical equipment.  Expect those things to skyrocket.
 
2013-09-24 08:11:39 PM
Earlier, he told the story of his father, and how he invented green eggs and ham.

Spoiler: it involved food coloring.

I would love to watch this, but Agents of SHIELD has a better basis in reality than whatever Cruz is spewing at the moment.
 
2013-09-24 08:12:01 PM

raerae1980: I like Green Eggs and Ham.   He needs to switch books pronto.  Have him read twilight!


50 Shades of Gray, perhaps? Because you'd have to be a friggin' masochist to listen to much more of this jive.
 
2013-09-24 08:12:23 PM

Soup4Bonnie: Warning:  Reagan fellatio in progress

"Reagan restrained the growth of government spending."


Jesus. farking. Christ. Reagan worship is absolutely killing the GOP.
 
2013-09-24 08:13:16 PM
The vote is tomorrow - He is just playing the teatards for the idiots they are.


"Fun fact: Senator Cruz pre-negotiated the terms of his #fakefilibuster with Senator Reid yesterday. Not exactly a Mr. Smith moment," Adam Jentleson, the Communications Director for Reid (D-Nev.) tweeted more than two hours after Cruz took to the Senate floor.

"There is no filibuster today," Reid said. "We are going to vote tomorrow. Under the rules no one can stop that."


It's a charade.
 
2013-09-24 08:13:52 PM

noheadphones: but with pharmaceuticals


My birth control pills are expected to be cheaper.
 
2013-09-24 08:14:45 PM

noheadphones: It's like with the defense industry--if you can only go to one place to get something, or if you have a multi-billion dollar contract with some entity, or corporation, you can only buy those goods and services from one place. Any price can be set for that service.


Obamacare doesn't work that way at all. People will actually have more options and more competition through the exchanges. How do you think more competition will make it so you can only go to "one place"?

You really seem to have no clue what you are talking about.
 
2013-09-24 08:15:29 PM
Is Enzi going to burn the Cruz-buster here?
 
2013-09-24 08:15:43 PM
"Americans did not like Obamacare in a box or with a fox or in a house or with a mouse." - Ted Cruz
 
2013-09-24 08:15:47 PM

raerae1980: noheadphones: but with pharmaceuticals

My birth control pills are expected to be cheaper.


That's really great, and I hope they stay cheap--but there really is nothing stopping prices of patented drugs from going nuts.
 
2013-09-24 08:18:01 PM
Darn, I was hoping Enzi (who was part of the gang of 6) would yield to someone who would call the question or something.
 
2013-09-24 08:18:04 PM
I want Enzi to wrap it up since I'm pretty sure Cruz's rendition of My Pet Goat is coming next.
 
2013-09-24 08:18:16 PM

noheadphones: I'm not talking about patient care via a doctor's office per se, but with pharmaceuticals


Your aware that currently the US pays the most for pharmaceuticals in the WORLD. Much more than other governments that have systems like Obamacare or Single payer which under your explanation would mean they would pay much more.
 
2013-09-24 08:18:34 PM

noheadphones: raerae1980: noheadphones: but with pharmaceuticals

My birth control pills are expected to be cheaper.

That's really great, and I hope they stay cheap--but there really is nothing stopping prices of patented drugs from going nuts.


I'm a little hazy on this so I apologize if I'm off, but my employer is pushing for us to use generic drugs.   Won't that help with costs?
 
2013-09-24 08:19:14 PM

Corvus: noheadphones: It's like with the defense industry--if you can only go to one place to get something, or if you have a multi-billion dollar contract with some entity, or corporation, you can only buy those goods and services from one place. Any price can be set for that service.

Obamacare doesn't work that way at all. People will actually have more options and more competition through the exchanges. How do you think more competition will make it so you can only go to "one place"?

You really seem to have no clue what you are talking about.


Again, I'm not talking about "the doctor's office" but products--drugs, equipment etc.  But along the lines you're talking about, since we're all pooling our tax cash into one place, the costs for a family of 4 are slates to increase substantially.

It remains to be seen if these exchanges will actually bring more competition in a marketplace where everyone is mandated to participate.
 
2013-09-24 08:21:23 PM

noheadphones: Corvus: noheadphones: It's like with the defense industry--if you can only go to one place to get something, or if you have a multi-billion dollar contract with some entity, or corporation, you can only buy those goods and services from one place. Any price can be set for that service.

Obamacare doesn't work that way at all. People will actually have more options and more competition through the exchanges. How do you think more competition will make it so you can only go to "one place"?

You really seem to have no clue what you are talking about.

Again, I'm not talking about "the doctor's office" but products--drugs, equipment etc.  But along the lines you're talking about, since we're all pooling our tax cash into one place, the costs for a family of 4 are slates to increase substantially.


That's not happening. That is untrue.


It remains to be seen if these exchanges will actually bring more competition in a marketplace where everyone is mandated to participate.


So you don't believe competition actually makes things cheaper and more efficient? How would more competition make things worse exactly?
 
2013-09-24 08:21:44 PM
fark, I hope it leads to cheaper healthcare, but I honestly don't see how---is there an example of a giant monopoly making things cheaper after its consolidation?
 
2013-09-24 08:22:04 PM
 "All across this country, Americans are suffering because of Obamacare. Obamacare isn't working."

Who? Who, you loathsome troll, is suffering from a low-cost health insurance option that isn't even fully implemented? Name names!
 
2013-09-24 08:23:39 PM

noheadphones: I'm not talking about patient care via a doctor's office per se, but with pharmaceuticals.


Right look at the other countries that do similar things:
www.rxrights.org
Oh wait actual facts show you are full of shiat. They show the system we had was actually the worst system for costs.

Don't let a little thing like reality get in you way with your talking points.
 
2013-09-24 08:23:46 PM

noheadphones: It remains to be seen if these exchanges will actually bring more competition in a marketplace where everyone is mandated to participate.


Unless they collude or otherwise rig the market, which is illegal, by definition it will bring more competition.
 
2013-09-24 08:24:02 PM

noheadphones: fark, I hope it leads to cheaper healthcare, but I honestly don't see how---is there an example of a giant monopoly making things cheaper after its consolidation?


Every public utility
 
2013-09-24 08:24:20 PM

noheadphones: fark, I hope it leads to cheaper healthcare, but I honestly don't see how---is there an example of a giant monopoly making things cheaper after its consolidation?


WHAT MONOPOLY??

There is no MONOPOLY. You have no idea what you are talking about.
 
2013-09-24 08:24:25 PM

noheadphones: Corvus: noheadphones: It's like with the defense industry--if you can only go to one place to get something, or if you have a multi-billion dollar contract with some entity, or corporation, you can only buy those goods and services from one place. Any price can be set for that service.

Obamacare doesn't work that way at all. People will actually have more options and more competition through the exchanges. How do you think more competition will make it so you can only go to "one place"?

You really seem to have no clue what you are talking about.

Again, I'm not talking about "the doctor's office" but products--drugs, equipment etc.  But along the lines you're talking about, since we're all pooling our tax cash into one place, the costs for a family of 4 are slates to increase substantially.

It remains to be seen if these exchanges will actually bring more competition in a marketplace where everyone is mandated to participate.


People in the U.S. already pay way more for pharmaceuticals than most other countries. How can costs get any higher? Healthcare in this country is a scam and unless we have single payer, the middle men will continue to take their cut.
 
2013-09-24 08:25:16 PM

kasmel: noheadphones: fark, I hope it leads to cheaper healthcare, but I honestly don't see how---is there an example of a giant monopoly making things cheaper after its consolidation?

Every public utility


+1
 
2013-09-24 08:25:53 PM

NeoCortex42: "The Great Depression ended thanks to WWII and the rebound that followed. We won't have that this time, and that's a shame. "

So...solution is WWIII?


I don't see the Germans bombing Pearl Harbor anytime soon.
 
2013-09-24 08:27:46 PM

Corvus: noheadphones: fark, I hope it leads to cheaper healthcare, but I honestly don't see how---is there an example of a giant monopoly making things cheaper after its consolidation?

WHAT MONOPOLY??

There is no MONOPOLY. You have no idea what you are talking about.


I'm simplifying, everyone has to pay for it---it's not one government hospital per se, but it's program where everyone is required to pay into, in order to fund those who can't afford it.
 
2013-09-24 08:30:01 PM

Corvus: kasmel: noheadphones: fark, I hope it leads to cheaper healthcare, but I honestly don't see how---is there an example of a giant monopoly making things cheaper after its consolidation?

Every public utility

+1


-1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_electricity_crisis
 
2013-09-24 08:30:55 PM

noheadphones: I'm simplifying, everyone has to pay for it


I don't think that is the definition of monopoly.
 
2013-09-24 08:33:41 PM

raerae1980: noheadphones: I'm simplifying, everyone has to pay for it

I don't think that is the definition of monopoly.


In, a  government-granted monopoly (also called a "de jure monopoly") is a form of by which a government grants exclusive privilege to a private individual or firm to be the sole provider of a good or service; potential competitors are excluded from the market by,, or other mechanisms of government enforcement. As a form of, government-granted monopoly is contrasted with a  non-coercive monopoly or anefficiency monopoly, where there is no competition but it is not forcibly excluded.
 
2013-09-24 08:34:13 PM

noheadphones: Corvus: kasmel: noheadphones: fark, I hope it leads to cheaper healthcare, but I honestly don't see how---is there an example of a giant monopoly making things cheaper after its consolidation?

Every public utility

+1

-1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_electricity_crisis


Yeah, you's trolling. I did laugh though when you slammed the Enron card down on the table like it was an ace.
 
2013-09-24 08:34:17 PM

Ab3: What is it about Ted Cruz that makes me think of Bunny Breckinridge?


I was thinking more like Bunny Lebowski. Once the primary season starts, he'll offer to suck your cock for a thousand delegates.

But you know - we could just ignore him.
 
2013-09-24 08:34:55 PM
Which of the insurance companies has a monopoly?
 
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