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(WDBJ 7 Roanoke)   High school cross-country track team not allowed to cross streets   (wdbj7.com) divider line 79
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2013-09-24 12:47:03 PM  
Many of the runners say their success is all about training on tough terrain and that includes running on super hilly roads to build endurance.


Since when is roads even "super hilly" ones considered rough terrain?
 
2013-09-24 01:03:11 PM  
they aren't even allowed to run on the sidewalks that parallel the city streets.
 
2013-09-24 01:32:19 PM  
What do they do when they go to a competition which is run on city streets?
 
2013-09-24 01:36:22 PM  
One dad said he's been trying to get answers.


I'm guessing the true answer is something along the lines of, "If your kid gets hit by a car on our time people like you will sue the shiat out of us because we weren't taking more precautions to protect teh chillins."

When I was a kid in HS, and on the CC team, our training routes were mostly *on* the streets through sidewalk-less neighborhoods.  No one had a problem with it...of course, people were much less likely to sue the school if something happened.
 
2013-09-24 01:38:13 PM  
In my day we practiced cross country in the middle of oncoming interstate traffic and we like it!
 
2013-09-24 02:03:20 PM  

brap: In my day we practiced cross country in the middle of oncoming interstate traffic and we like it!


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2013-09-24 02:41:37 PM  
I live in this area, but a couple of towns over. The CC kids at the HS here also run on the streets. And they DON'T LOOK WHERE THEY ARE GOING!
 
2013-09-24 02:41:44 PM  

johnsoninca: What do they do when they go to a competition which is run on city streets?


IIRC, cross country competition is not run on streets, hence the "country" part.
 
2013-09-24 02:41:49 PM  
If they wanted to learn how to run on streets, they should have joined the cross-city team.
 
2013-09-24 02:42:13 PM  
Sure beats sucking in exhaust fumes.
 
2013-09-24 02:42:25 PM  
It's pretty obvious the guy that owns the "private farm" where they now train is getting some kind of kickback for the use of his facility. Just follow the money...
 
2013-09-24 02:43:20 PM  
"super hilly?"

Thems write good.
 
2013-09-24 02:45:07 PM  
It's called cross-country, not cross-street.

Thar's yer answer rite thurrrrrrr.
 
2013-09-24 02:45:35 PM  

comhcinc: Many of the runners say their success is all about training on tough terrain and that includes running on super hilly roads to build endurance.


Since when is roads even "super hilly" ones considered rough terrain?


Reading comprehension is not your strong point today.
 
Ant
2013-09-24 02:45:53 PM  
Many of the runners say their success is all about training on tough terrain and that includes running on super hilly roads to build endurance. They want to know why they can't keep doing that.

I'll bet I can answer that: Litigation
 
2013-09-24 02:46:22 PM  
around here
I they run on the streets on he way home ...

usually in sport bras and shorty shorts

I hear ...
is it warm in here or is it just me ...

is it time to go yet ...
 
2013-09-24 02:46:56 PM  
So no more young well toned sweaty youths will be running the city streets in skimpy pants and tank tops any longer?

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2013-09-24 02:47:11 PM  
Just buy them 25 treadmills.
 
2013-09-24 02:47:23 PM  
My guess is some big wig dick bag got inconvenienced by the cross country team on his way to the golf course and so he pitched a fit to the superintendent.
 
2013-09-24 02:47:42 PM  
The article is misleading. They can still cross streets if the crossing guard leads them across, and they all have to hold on to the string so they don't get lost.
 
2013-09-24 02:48:47 PM  
Part of the new training route means busing the RHS cross-country team 30 minutes away to a private farm in Pulaski County.

Who owns the farm and how much does the school district pay for the privilege?
 
2013-09-24 02:50:03 PM  
They should run anyway.  It's not like the administrators can catch them with that giant stick up their ass
 
2013-09-24 02:52:25 PM  

mikey15: around here
I they run on the streets on he way home ...

usually in sport bras and shorty shorts

I hear ...
is it warm in here or is it just me ...

is it time to go yet ...


Hey, whoa there, put that thing away...
 
2013-09-24 02:52:54 PM  

brap: In my day we practiced cross country in the middle of oncoming interstate traffic and we like it!


I did that on CC, for reals.

One of the training routes ran through some forest behind the HS, followed a trail underneath an overpass for the interstate, and up into some hills before looping back. The first year I was on the team, another guy and I were new to the route and slow as balls, and neither of us quite knew where we were going. We managed to follow the rest of the team out to the hills, but they left us behind. By the time we got through the loop and headed back, we didn't really know where we were and wound up on the shoulder of the interstate. We hadn't groked to the fact that there was a trail under us, and we figured the interstate exit near the HS was only about a mile down the road, so we just ran down the shoulder of the interstate until we got back.
 
2013-09-24 02:54:21 PM  
High schoolers may no longer run on city streets, elementary school students still expected to walk to school (including crossing 6 lane roads) if they live less than 2 miles away.

/this is school logic!
 
2013-09-24 02:54:54 PM  
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How about just shutting down all school-associated sports?
School is supposed to be for education.
You want to join a sports team, form your own municipal club.
 
2013-09-24 02:55:58 PM  

UberDave: One dad said he's been trying to get answers.


I'm guessing the true answer is something along the lines of, "If your kid gets hit by a car on our time people like you will sue the shiat out of us because we weren't taking more precautions to protect teh chillins."

When I was a kid in HS, and on the CC team, our training routes were mostly *on* the streets through sidewalk-less neighborhoods.  No one had a problem with it...of course, people were much less likely to sue the school if something happened.


Bingo! A school board member nearly shiat their pants when they realized how lucky they've been so far. Watch as no one will be surprised if this whips like wild fire across the country. Of course school administration will never mentioned the dangers of football, they'll find insurance policy money for that, you bet.
 
2013-09-24 02:56:02 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: It's pretty obvious the guy that owns the "private farm" where they now train is getting some kind of kickback for the use of his facility. Just follow the money...


You know who else was suspicious of private farms.

pjmedia.com
 
2013-09-24 02:58:20 PM  

Begoggle: [media.tumblr.com image 500x276]

How about just shutting down all school-associated sports?
School is supposed to be for education.
You want to join a sports team, form your own municipal club.


working in a team environment teaches all sorts of real world skills.

You sound fat and out of breath,
 
2013-09-24 02:58:49 PM  
Yeah, this has to be liability-related in some way. Maybe the district's insurance company offered them a discount if they banned student athletes from public streets or something.
 
2013-09-24 02:59:49 PM  

NightSteel: Yeah, this has to be liability-related in some way. Maybe the district's insurance company offered them a discount if they banned student athletes from public streets or something.


"Running on the streets?  No, somebody could get seriously hurt!  But football is OK."
 
2013-09-24 03:01:32 PM  
Thanks, Obama, for furthering the nanny state agenda.
 
2013-09-24 03:02:46 PM  

Begoggle: How about just shutting down all school-associated sports?
School is supposed to be for education.
You want to join a sports team, form your own municipal club.


School isn't just for "education". It's for scholastics, academics, athletics, and civics. This new "school is just for studying out of books" myth is baffling.
 
2013-09-24 03:04:22 PM  

JollyMagistrate: comhcinc: Many of the runners say their success is all about training on tough terrain and that includes running on super hilly roads to build endurance.


Since when is roads even "super hilly" ones considered rough terrain?

Reading comprehension is not your strong point today.


Or the "t" and '"r" are beside each other on my keyboard. Strange how my spell check didn't catch the mistake........wait oh because that is also a word.....wow.

Now what is really strange is them two words right there kinda mean the same thing.

But hey things for pointing out my mistake. I hope it makes you feel a lot better about yourself today.


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2013-09-24 03:05:00 PM  

kindms: working in a team environment teaches all sorts of real world skills.


While that is true, high schools in particular spend lots and lots of taxpayer money on school sports, which confer these benefits on a relatively small fraction of the student body, given that high school sports generally do not have open enrollment. In the worst economy since the Depression, de-funding high school sports makes perfect economic sense.

Unfortunately, parents and coaches looking to relive their glory days generally make more noise than parents looking to ensure everyone's children receive the best possible education from taxpayer dollars.

If teachers have to resort to asking parents to provide essential supplies like kleenex and toilet paper, why aren't we asking sports participants to provide their own supplies?
 
2013-09-24 03:07:07 PM  

jfivealive: My guess is some big wig dick bag got inconvenienced by the cross country team on his way to the golf course and so he pitched a fit to the superintendent.


Funny thing about this is when I was in XC, all of our races were on golf courses and country clubs.
 
2013-09-24 03:13:38 PM  

Walker: High schoolers may no longer run on city streets, elementary school students still expected to walk to school (including crossing 6 lane roads) if they live less than 2 miles away.

/this is school logic!


Sadly, no. There are a  bunch of schools around where walking or pedaling to school is verboten.  Now... they often don't pay for buses unless you're over 2 miles away.  But you can't let them walk, either. Somebody think of the children!
 
2013-09-24 03:14:19 PM  

johnsoninca: What do they do when they go to a competition which is run on city streets?


I'm guessing they run.
 
2013-09-24 03:16:19 PM  

Begoggle: [media.tumblr.com image 500x276]

How about just shutting down all school-associated sports?
School is supposed to be for education.
You want to join a sports team, form your own municipal club.


4/10

I like that meme.
 
2013-09-24 03:18:36 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: It's pretty obvious the guy that owns the "private farm" where they now train is getting some kind of kickback for the use of his facility. Just follow the money...


Right, because public schools are known for spending tons of money on a sport that no one gives a shiat about other than the competitors and their parents.
 
2013-09-24 03:19:23 PM  
WOW.

When I ran cross, no one ever got hit by a car.  And we ran on the side of 2 lane 50 mph roads for the majority of cross country camp, and plenty of times throughout the year.

Jackasses doing catcalls out of car windows (to girls they KNEW were underage, or 18 at best) were far more annoying than f--king dealing with traffic.
 
2013-09-24 03:20:03 PM  

JohnCarter: So no more young well toned sweaty youths will be running the city streets in skimpy pants and tank tops any longer?


What might these look like?  Research purposes...
 
2013-09-24 03:21:32 PM  

NightSteel: kindms: working in a team environment teaches all sorts of real world skills.

While that is true, high schools in particular spend lots and lots of taxpayer money on school sports, which confer these benefits on a relatively small fraction of the student body, given that high school sports generally do not have open enrollment. In the worst economy since the Depression, de-funding high school sports makes perfect economic sense.

Unfortunately, parents and coaches looking to relive their glory days generally make more noise than parents looking to ensure everyone's children receive the best possible education from taxpayer dollars.

If teachers have to resort to asking parents to provide essential supplies like kleenex and toilet paper, why aren't we asking sports participants to provide their own supplies?


I really doubt the school is giving the kids shoes and other supplies.  They get singlets and warmup stuff that they return at the end of the season.  Also, most schools do have a pay to play system in place.  For XC teams, the additional cost of adding runners is very small (most meets charge you the same regardless of how many kids you bring, so unless you bump up the number of buses needed, no new cost for an additional runner), so these teams probably actually turn a profit.

Sorry you weren't well rounded in school, but trying to drag down everyone else isn't the way to go.
 
2013-09-24 03:22:58 PM  
When I ran XC, most of our mileage was done on secondary roads.  There was traffic, but not a lot, and other than the road our school was on, the highest speed limit on the roads we ran was 35mph.  Half the time our coach didn't even know where we were or what we were doing.  There was even a golf course relatively close to the school and we didn't run on it, we ran the roads around it.

The kids in the article are right - running hills will definitely make you faster in the 5K and it actually decreases the chance of injury compared to doing speed work on the track.
 
2013-09-24 03:24:58 PM  

Begoggle: [media.tumblr.com image 500x276]

How about just shutting down all school-associated sports?
School is supposed to be for education.
You want to join a sports team, form your own municipal club.


Cross country costs the school approximately nothing, unless you get uniforms.  When I ran ours were about 10 years old.  We bought our own shoes, raised money to pay for camp, and our coach was a mid level manager for one of the big 3 auto companies who volunteered to coach on his own spare time.  He had his own equipment for measuring distance / marking the course when we hosted meets.

Okay, I guess "taking a bus to meets every other week" could be a cost.
 
2013-09-24 03:26:15 PM  

jfivealive: My guess is some big wig dick bag got inconvenienced by the cross country team on his way to the golf course and so he pitched a fit to the superintendent.


I set the team record of getting kicked off the golf course - three times in one week.

We also did get hit by a car once, lady tried to a right on red without checking for pedestrians   Drove right into the middle of a pack of 8 guys, one ended up on her hood.  There was a lot of yelling and slapping her car as she tried to apologize.
 
2013-09-24 03:28:22 PM  

vento: When I ran XC, most of our mileage was done on secondary roads.  There was traffic, but not a lot, and other than the road our school was on, the highest speed limit on the roads we ran was 35mph.  Half the time our coach didn't even know where we were or what we were doing.  There was even a golf course relatively close to the school and we didn't run on it, we ran the roads around it.

The kids in the article are right - running hills will definitely make you faster in the 5K and it actually decreases the chance of injury compared to doing speed work on the track.


We had a "hill workout" or "speed workout" once a week.  There was this little hill at a park a mile from my school.  Didn't look like much until you sprinted the f--k up it 12 times.

But I kicked ass on hill courses.  My sprinting sucked (still does, hard to learn how really) but I could pace myself on hills like nobody's business and ended up passing people like crazy between the 1 and 3 mile markers.

Good times.
 
2013-09-24 03:28:56 PM  

Zul the Magnificent: JohnCarter: So no more young well toned sweaty youths will be running the city streets in skimpy pants and tank tops any longer?

What might these look like?  Research purposes...


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2013-09-24 03:33:09 PM  
Another thing - we had "go to a park/trail/etc" practices but the vast majority were "get out of class, get changed, show up, stretch, run, get home" because we had, you know, school.  If they can't hit the roads running less than 20 minutes after classes end - not having to wait in a bus for stragglers or in traffic to get to the adequate trails (if you were late to our practice, the coach just gave you the route and set you off to catch up) - they're gonna be way more rushed for time. 

Zul the Magnificent: JohnCarter: So no more young well toned sweaty youths will be running the city streets in skimpy pants and tank tops any longer?

What might these look like?  Research purposes...


AHEM

StreetlightInTheGhetto: girls they KNEW were underage, or 18 at best


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2013-09-24 03:34:41 PM  

StreetlightInTheGhetto: Begoggle: [media.tumblr.com image 500x276]

How about just shutting down all school-associated sports?
School is supposed to be for education.
You want to join a sports team, form your own municipal club.

Cross country costs the school approximately nothing, unless you get uniforms.  When I ran ours were about 10 years old.  We bought our own shoes, raised money to pay for camp, and our coach was a mid level manager for one of the big 3 auto companies who volunteered to coach on his own spare time.  He had his own equipment for measuring distance / marking the course when we hosted meets.

Okay, I guess "taking a bus to meets every other week" could be a cost.


This.  Our XC team didn't cost the school anything more than the bus that took us to and from away meets.  The uniforms were also used for the track team (and those were bought by boosters, I believe) and were easily 5 years old (my older brother wore the same stuff in track).  We bought our own shoes.  Our coach volunteered.  He was the varsity basketball coach and he made all of the basketball players join XC for conditioning.  The b-ball guys were horrible, but they were awesome for being out there.  The top-5 or 6 guys would finish and then run back to somewhere along the course to cheer them in.  The basketball team got A LOT better in those years and more people went to the games, so you could argue that XC had a hand in that, so we probably turned a profit.

As my Mom always said, "They shoot the gun, you run around the track, disappear into the woods and then 15 minutes later you come flying out and finish.  And half the time we miss the finish because the parents are all talking to each other."
 
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