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2013-09-24 01:44:49 PM
BMI fails to account for the fact that I've digested my own bones and am basically a pliable spheroid. If you push me, do I not bounce?
 
2013-09-24 01:45:15 PM

alizeran: Because internet.

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b1969d.medialib.glogster.com
 
2013-09-24 01:45:17 PM
I was a scrawny kid, filled out well as a teenager, now am fat and bald. Someone defend me!
 
2013-09-24 01:46:16 PM
Wouldn't BMI be a bit more accurate for younger children? You're not going to be packing on huge muscles before puberty.
 
2013-09-24 01:46:43 PM

you have pee hands: It's just going to confuse people when it turns out a BMI of 22 is actually fat as hell when you're three and a half feet tall.

/bmi = (height^2) / weight
//turns out humans aren't really two dimensional


You've inverted the BMI formula.

Also, your horizontal cross-section _is_ two dimensional. Think about how the square-cube law works, and you'll see why it's height squared.
 
2013-09-24 01:48:06 PM

mediablitz: Schools can't afford foreign language courses, sports programs or music classes. But they found funds for dieticians?

Yes, they did. Sorry your kid isn't "big boned".


My kids elementary school teaches Spanish and Mandarin. My Jr. High daughter just started band class. He should move to a better neighborhood.
 
2013-09-24 01:48:19 PM
It isn't perfect science, but then again you don't need to be a scientist to see that a kid is fat.
 
2013-09-24 01:49:48 PM

Arthen: Worrying whether or not kids are attractive is not something I want teachers doing. BMI is based on aesthetics, not health.


Nope. BMI independently predicts the risk of mortality in the general population. Unless you believe that's because of aesthetics instead of health...
 
2013-09-24 01:50:43 PM

TechnoHead: Funny like it never is a thin person saying "BMI is bullshiat, I am NOT TOO THIN".


I got one of these letters for my son, putting his BMI at under 1% (too thin) and suggesting that I take him to his pediatrician. We freaked out for a bit, set up the appointment, and then watched his doctor roll her eyes and ask if we'd gotten a letter from the school. He's fine, and I'm annoyed enough to say that BMI is BS, and my son is not too thin.

Magorn: ...frankly the BMI was invented by a group of UN scientists who were pushing a "sustainability" agenda which posits that smaller humans use less resources.


Whatever you think about BMI it was invented about 100 years before the UN came into existence. That's part of the problem - it was a back of the envelope calculation from before the US civil war, and ignores everything we've learned since.
 
2013-09-24 01:50:49 PM

mediablitz: Schools can't afford foreign language courses, sports programs or music classes. But they found funds for dieticians?

Yes, they did. Sorry your kid isn't "big boned".


Not knowing French won't give your child diabetes, but being fat just might. Since the sad thing is some parents won't do the parenting job of keeping their children healthy, schools have to step in.
 
2013-09-24 01:51:09 PM
"'I have a thyroid problem.' Is 'thyroid' a type of gravy?"
 
2013-09-24 01:51:25 PM

Magorn: Problem is nobody who calls themselves a "dietician" or "Nutritionist" honestly has the first freaking clue about wy kids are getting fat or how to help them lose weight.

I used to be gigantically fat, and I'm not now, and to get from there to here I basically had to ignore every bit of conventional wisdom on how to lose weight to do it.   Years of hard-core calroie restriction and daily exercise was getting me fatter.  Stopping counting anything but carbs, and eating as much fat and protien as I wanted made me lose 100 lbs in 3 months.

Not only are humans getting fatter, but so are domestic animals AND Laboratory animals.   That's not a lack of willpower, that's clearly something enviromental.  My money is on either evironmental estrogens, or Hgh Fructose corn Syrup.   HFCS defenders claim it is identical calorically to sugar but lab experiement after lab experiment  show mice getting fatter with it than fed an indentical diet of sugar.   And this makes sense, because Calories do not determine weight gain (especially fat gain) your I ...


Yeah? And just how soon do YOU have to be in the gym?  I need to be there in 26 minutes. And 3 hours. After work, but before my wife comes home so I don't ignore her, and after I grade papers...

Seriously, though, there  is a reason for all the HFCS hate. I've got a friend who cut herself off of all fountain drinks and nothing else, and she lost 15 pounds in a month. Just from the fizzy stuff. I tried it, lost only 5 pounds (then again, I never drank a lot of the stuff in the first place - every time I have a soda burp, I can feel the back of my eyes burning). Then you look up how much HFCS is in a lot of things here in America...

/100 pounds in 3 months is impressive, gotta say
 
2013-09-24 01:51:56 PM
We have better methods, and we should be using them. We did use some of them, once upon a time, and seem to have switched only to save a couple of cents and a tiny bit of time. A better solution would be to use BMI as an initial screen, and then run real tests on the people whose BMI shows a red flag.

But it is true that most of the BMI-detractors are in denial about their own weight. I'm not: my BMI is out of whack, but I am in fact overweight (previously athletic, now out of shape). At the same time, this is a reflection of a society enamored with easy numbers, accuracy be damned, over the performing the work required to actually test people. Which may be part of what got us here in the first place.
 
2013-09-24 01:53:21 PM
For the vast majority of people bmi works.

Yes extreme athletes will off the chart.


Regarding weight lifters and NFL players...

Most of them are fat! Yeah they have muscles too... but are you seriously suggesting NFL players aren't covered in lots of blubber too?

Should call it armoured "American sumo wrestling with a rubber egg"... not "american football".

Yes... sumo wrestlers have to have muscles too.


NFL... fat.
Baseball... beer bellied pussies.


Now hockey players, basketball players... you'll never find them over 25 bmi.

Stop using lardarse NFL players as an excuse... unless you're Arnie 20 years ago... if you are over 25 bmi you are probably fat.
(Over 6ft and 220lbs... so don't say you are 250lbs of muscle anyone... you're not... if you are 250lbs you have excess fat)

Doesn't mean you can't be healthy... health and fat are related but not mutually exclusive.


Face it deniers... you are all fatty fat heads.
 
2013-09-24 01:54:04 PM

Prank Call of Cthulhu: At first I thought they were sending your kid's fat home, and I thought maybe this was like the Hannibal Lecter Elementary school or something, but then I realized I read the headline too fast.

I agree with the writer, though. It's wrong. It's not going to help the kids' self esteem. Instead, they should send "Your kid's phat" letters home. That would probably make those kids feel a lot better about themselves.


At least those "fat camps" are starting to die out (at least they are around here). Those things only really work in the short term. The kid has to want to be fit; same as adults. For me it is also a stress relief from my desk job.
 
2013-09-24 01:54:40 PM
I thought fat people were jolly?
 
2013-09-24 01:54:44 PM

shifty lookin bleeder: So, your principal says you're fat. Well, I ain't down with that.


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2013-09-24 01:57:08 PM

Girl Sailor: I'm obese. I admit it. Wish I wasn't but I ... can see the little kids plumping up like Ballpark hot dogs day after day. While I don't love ... .


You may have a food obsession.
 
2013-09-24 01:57:14 PM

Willas Tyrell: TechnoHead: Funny like it never is a thin person saying "BMI is bullshiat, I am NOT TOO THIN".

I got one of these letters for my son, putting his BMI at under 1% (too thin) and suggesting that I take him to his pediatrician. We freaked out for a bit, set up the appointment, and then watched his doctor roll her eyes and ask if we'd gotten a letter from the school. He's fine, and I'm annoyed enough to say that BMI is BS, and my son is not too thin.


Out of curiosity, how old was your son at the time? One of my friends got a similar concerning letter about her daughter's weight, and the doctor laughed and said "your daughter is going through puberty. This is normal!"
 
2013-09-24 01:58:16 PM

Willas Tyrell: TechnoHead: Funny like it never is a thin person saying "BMI is bullshiat, I am NOT TOO THIN".

I got one of these letters for my son, putting his BMI at under 1% (too thin) and suggesting that I take him to his pediatrician. We freaked out for a bit, set up the appointment, and then watched his doctor roll her eyes and ask if we'd gotten a letter from the school. He's fine, and I'm annoyed enough to say that BMI is BS, and my son is not too thin.

Magorn: ...frankly the BMI was invented by a group of UN scientists who were pushing a "sustainability" agenda which posits that smaller humans use less resources.

Whatever you think about BMI it was invented about 100 years before the UN came into existence. That's part of the problem - it was a back of the envelope calculation from before the US civil war, and ignores everything we've learned since.


I'll agree that it's inaccurate on an individual basis, but think of it as a cheap, easy first screener. The doctor did exactly what he/she should have, but out of every N kids they roll their eyes for, they might catch one kid who needs help (e.g. A serious food intolerance, neglect, kidney failure, etc.).

A more exact test would lower the N, but would cost more.
 
2013-09-24 01:58:58 PM

Voiceofreason01: His whole argument is a strawman, not all States are using BMI and BMI is a pretty good measure for most people, especially small children who are usually not hardcore athletes.

/If your two-year-old has an "obese" BMI then they're fat and you should probably be getting a visit from social services instead of a letter from the school.


Are you nuts? A two year old? Really?

"Baby fat" does exist. In fact, all babies are little roly-polies. Chunker dunks. Porkers. Most toddlers are too. Because that fat protects them when they fall. Not if. When.

Because the little ankle-biters don't gain coordination until, oh, about 5 or so. If they're lucky. My landlord's kid is 6 and he still has his baby fat. I didn't gain that coordination until about 12--which, incidentally, is when I lost--naturally--that fat I carried since I was a little baby. Literally, over the summer, grew out of it and gained about 4 inches of height. Ate my poor grandfather out of house and home, poor guy had to buy me an entire new wardrobe, and my mother and father barely recognized me when they came to see me.

Because it's freakin normal and natural for a large portion of children to carry that 'baby fat' for years. My cousins, nieces and nephews did until they were about 10-12.

Have you ever been around a child? Good God, I hope you were trolling with that, because I refuse to believe anyone could be that f*cking stupid.
 
2013-09-24 01:59:24 PM
My BMI rating is obese, so I'm getting a kick...
 
2013-09-24 01:59:41 PM

Willas Tyrell: TechnoHead: Funny like it never is a thin person saying "BMI is bullshiat, I am NOT TOO THIN".

I got one of these letters for my son, putting his BMI at under 1% (too thin) and suggesting that I take him to his pediatrician. We freaked out for a bit, set up the appointment, and then watched his doctor roll her eyes and ask if we'd gotten a letter from the school. He's fine, and I'm annoyed enough to say that BMI is BS, and my son is not too thin.

Magorn: ...frankly the BMI was invented by a group of UN scientists who were pushing a "sustainability" agenda which posits that smaller humans use less resources.

Whatever you think about BMI it was invented about 100 years before the UN came into existence. That's part of the problem - it was a back of the envelope calculation from before the US civil war, and ignores everything we've learned since.

BMI is so imperfect that it can significantly underestimate the fattness of our current population. I would prefer professionals use bodyfat testing, but apparently people are too lazy, incompetent, cheap or afraid to touch kids. Also, many bf% formulas dont apply to children.
 
2013-09-24 02:00:47 PM

rikkitikkitavi: Girl Sailor: I'm obese. I admit it. Wish I wasn't but I ... can see the little kids plumping up like Ballpark hot dogs day after day. While I don't love ... .

You may have a food obsession.


I'm just into it for fun! I can't quit anytime I want! You don't know me!! I HATE THIS HOUSE!!
 
2013-09-24 02:01:54 PM
Some parents need it. My sister was gripping the other day she got a letter about my niece being overweight. I said she could stand to lose a few pounds and my sister went on a tirade how she has asthma and can't exercise. I said she could do yoga, pilates, swimming, or any number of low impact exercising WHILE watching what she eats. My sister screamed back at me how she only lets her kids eat healthy things.

Then not four hours later she posts on Facebook how they made edible cookie-dough, monkey bread, pudding, and were having chocolate pancakes for dinner. "Just another Friday movie night!" Yup...so healthy and nutritious. Gee I just can't fathom why my niece has weight issues.

/My BIL has also been chubby his whole life, so genetics work against her.
//He also works PT a McD's which is dinner most nights when my sister is too lazy to cook
///Sister hasn't cooked dinner in two weeks that I know about.
 
2013-09-24 02:02:05 PM

Aigoo: Voiceofreason01: His whole argument is a strawman, not all States are using BMI and BMI is a pretty good measure for most people, especially small children who are usually not hardcore athletes.

/If your two-year-old has an "obese" BMI then they're fat and you should probably be getting a visit from social services instead of a letter from the school.

Are you nuts? A two year old? Really?

"Baby fat" does exist. In fact, all babies are little roly-polies. Chunker dunks. Porkers. Most toddlers are too. Because that fat protects them when they fall. Not if. When.

Because the little ankle-biters don't gain coordination until, oh, about 5 or so. If they're lucky. My landlord's kid is 6 and he still has his baby fat. I didn't gain that coordination until about 12--which, incidentally, is when I lost--naturally--that fat I carried since I was a little baby. Literally, over the summer, grew out of it and gained about 4 inches of height. Ate my poor grandfather out of house and home, poor guy had to buy me an entire new wardrobe, and my mother and father barely recognized me when they came to see me.

Because it's freakin normal and natural for a large portion of children to carry that 'baby fat' for years. My cousins, nieces and nephews did until they were about 10-12.

Have you ever been around a child? Good God, I hope you were trolling with that, because I refuse to believe anyone could be that f*cking stupid.


This ties in with my previous post. Puberty usually means the end of baby fat stores as they're consumed in the growth process and hormone changes associated with it. In other words, agree with you.
 
2013-09-24 02:02:33 PM
I think it's a good idea for schools to screen students. I was overweight most of my life, after I got out of athletics. It sucks. At my heaviest I was around 200 and my joints hurt all the time.

I just did the bmi calculator on webmd. I'm proud to say it's 23.5 and my waist to height ratio is .48. Both are within the healthy range. :-)
 
2013-09-24 02:02:57 PM
Although BMI is not perfect, if you're ringing in at 32 BMI that just might be a wake up call.

I'm at 25.1 right now, and I exercise moderately. And yes, I could drop a few pounds. It's not bad, but I'd like a little less around the middle. A BMI of 22 would probably be perfect

I think one problem is we're now so used to a fatter society. Ever watch old movies? Check out the way people fit their clothes back then. We're definitely chubbier now.
 
2013-09-24 02:03:35 PM
www.feelingoodtees.com
 
2013-09-24 02:04:07 PM
Wait, stop, hold it.  A guy named "Ruben" is complaining about schools calling kids fat? Are there NO art-history majors in the land of Fark?

www.nationalgallery.org.uk

Not impressed.
 
2013-09-24 02:04:19 PM

Genju: Break out the calipers and start pinching the porkers. BMI isn't a good measure at all.


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/Sits between 9% and 13% depending on what phase of lifting I'm in.


You realize that BMI actually has a tighter standard? I fall in the normal range (for a 40-year-old woman) of around 23-24% (depending on what time of year it is--winter/holidays, 24%). Anything higher, and by BMI standards, I am considered "overweight," and my doctor starts having a hissy fit. Even using those little digital machines at the gym (you know the ones you hold on to and they send some kind of current through to measure), I fall in the same range--a little lower, actually--because the machines measure me about 2-3% lower than a BMI "calculation" does.
 
2013-09-24 02:05:10 PM
Well Jonathan Swift once again comes to the rescue and gives us good guidance on how to handle the nation's childhood obesity epidemic.  Following his modest proposal, not only will we be able to solve the problem permanently but we will also be able to put a serious dent in hunger problems facing the US.
 
2013-09-24 02:05:10 PM
BMI again.

Great, can we also talk about other really cool "School of Vienna" scientific marvels.

Like phrenology and eugenics?
 
2013-09-24 02:05:18 PM

theorellior: . Ever watch old movies? Check out the way people fit their clothes back then. We're definitely chubbier now.


I know, that's so depressing. Check out some movies from the late 70's. People are supermodel thin by today's standards. Of course there was a certain white intoxicant that the people were into back then that wasn't helping anything. I still agree though.
 
2013-09-24 02:06:04 PM

Publikwerks: firefly212: alizeran: Because internet.

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It's all diet coke in there... that means it is good for you, right?

She's watching her figure


She has no choice, because it blocks out EVERYTHING ELSE.
 
2013-09-24 02:06:15 PM

CleanAndPure: Now hockey players, basketball players... you'll never find them over 25 bmi.


Dustin Byfuglien/ Kyle Wellwood jokes go here.
 
2013-09-24 02:06:17 PM
This is just like the thyroid thing... sure a couple percent of obese people have medical disorders causing it... and sure, a couple percent of people with a BMI of over 30 are actually healthy.... but the other 95+ percent are not, and as a parent raising a kid, you need to be aware of the fact that your child's weight could put them at risk for a litany of terribly problems both early on and later in life. Instead of being angry that someone told you your kid is fat, you should feel guilty that you let it get to that point in the first place. Killing your kids with McDonalds is no better than killing them with any other poison.
 
2013-09-24 02:07:44 PM

Slam1263: BMI again.

Great, can we also talk about other really cool "School of Vienna" scientific marvels.

Like phrenology and eugenics?


Spend the energy blaming the metrics or fixing the problem, fatty.
 
2013-09-24 02:08:10 PM

Aigoo: Because it's freakin normal and natural for a large portion of children to carry that 'baby fat' for years. My cousins, nieces and nephews did until they were about 10-12.

Have you ever been around a child? Good God, I hope you were trolling with that, because I refuse to believe anyone could be that f*cking stupid.


"Baby fat" is usually gone in active children by 3-4 years of age.  I have three kids, and all were lean and athletic by 3. Of the 17 children that live on our street all under the age of 12, there is one age 8 that is still fat.  And he will always be fat. Because his father is fat.  And they eat like shiat.  It's not "babyfat."
 
2013-09-24 02:08:17 PM
I think the problem in America is the fear of calling fat people fat.

We can call diabetics diabetic. Blind people blind.

Fat is becoming a taboo word.

Why? If someone is fat we should label them so. It is a medical condition such as diabetes.

It is perhaps the most easy disease to cure.

Stop being so sensitive fatsos. Lose weight.


/ formerly overweight... close to obese.
 
2013-09-24 02:09:51 PM

Zik-Zak: Magorn: Problem is nobody who calls themselves a "dietician" or "Nutritionist" honestly has the first freaking clue about wy kids are getting fat or how to help them lose weight.

I used to be gigantically fat, and I'm not now, and to get from there to here I basically had to ignore every bit of conventional wisdom on how to lose weight to do it.   Years of hard-core calroie restriction and daily exercise was getting me fatter.  Stopping counting anything but carbs, and eating as much fat and protien as I wanted made me lose 100 lbs in 3 months.

Not only are humans getting fatter, but so are domestic animals AND Laboratory animals.   That's not a lack of willpower, that's clearly something enviromental.  My money is on either evironmental estrogens, or Hgh Fructose corn Syrup.   HFCS defenders claim it is identical calorically to sugar but lab experiement after lab experiment  show mice getting fatter with it than fed an indentical diet of sugar.   And this makes sense, because Calories do not determine weight gain (especially fat gain) your I ...

Yeah? And just how soon do YOU have to be in the gym?  I need to be there in 26 minutes. And 3 hours. After work, but before my wife comes home so I don't ignore her, and after I grade papers...

Seriously, though, there  is a reason for all the HFCS hate. I've got a friend who cut herself off of all fountain drinks and nothing else, and she lost 15 pounds in a month. Just from the fizzy stuff. I tried it, lost only 5 pounds (then again, I never drank a lot of the stuff in the first place - every time I have a soda burp, I can feel the back of my eyes burning). Then you look up how much HFCS is in a lot of things here in America...

/100 pounds in 3 months is impressive, gotta say


Impressively unhealthy, maybe. Got a friend who's lost 100lbs in nine months through changing his lifestyle, diet, and exercising. If he'd lost 100lbs in 3 months, I'd be marching his ass to a doctor.
 
2013-09-24 02:11:59 PM
Well, as it happens, BMI isn't supposed to be applied to children. Still, they could use height-weight percentiles to determine weight problems and alert the parents.
 
2013-09-24 02:14:05 PM

Genju: Aigoo: Voiceofreason01: His whole argument is a strawman, not all States are using BMI and BMI is a pretty good measure for most people, especially small children who are usually not hardcore athletes.

/If your two-year-old has an "obese" BMI then they're fat and you should probably be getting a visit from social services instead of a letter from the school.

Are you nuts? A two year old? Really?

"Baby fat" does exist. In fact, all babies are little roly-polies. Chunker dunks. Porkers. Most toddlers are too. Because that fat protects them when they fall. Not if. When.

Because the little ankle-biters don't gain coordination until, oh, about 5 or so. If they're lucky. My landlord's kid is 6 and he still has his baby fat. I didn't gain that coordination until about 12--which, incidentally, is when I lost--naturally--that fat I carried since I was a little baby. Literally, over the summer, grew out of it and gained about 4 inches of height. Ate my poor grandfather out of house and home, poor guy had to buy me an entire new wardrobe, and my mother and father barely recognized me when they came to see me.

Because it's freakin normal and natural for a large portion of children to carry that 'baby fat' for years. My cousins, nieces and nephews did until they were about 10-12.

Have you ever been around a child? Good God, I hope you were trolling with that, because I refuse to believe anyone could be that f*cking stupid.

This ties in with my previous post. Puberty usually means the end of baby fat stores as they're consumed in the growth process and hormone changes associated with it. In other words, agree with you.


That's what I was trying to say, more or less, but the blatant raging stupidity of the OP I quoted with calling social services about a two year old being fat just mind boggled me so much I couldn't think straight.
 
2013-09-24 02:15:54 PM

Zik-Zak: Magorn: Problem is nobody who calls themselves a "dietician" or "Nutritionist" honestly has the first freaking clue about wy kids are getting fat or how to help them lose weight.

I used to be gigantically fat, and I'm not now, and to get from there to here I basically had to ignore every bit of conventional wisdom on how to lose weight to do it.   Years of hard-core calroie restriction and daily exercise was getting me fatter.  Stopping counting anything but carbs, and eating as much fat and protien as I wanted made me lose 100 lbs in 3 months.

Not only are humans getting fatter, but so are domestic animals AND Laboratory animals.   That's not a lack of willpower, that's clearly something enviromental.  My money is on either evironmental estrogens, or Hgh Fructose corn Syrup.   HFCS defenders claim it is identical calorically to sugar but lab experiement after lab experiment  show mice getting fatter with it than fed an indentical diet of sugar.   And this makes sense, because Calories do not determine weight gain (especially fat gain) your I ...

Yeah? And just how soon do YOU have to be in the gym?  I need to be there in 26 minutes. And 3 hours. After work, but before my wife comes home so I don't ignore her, and after I grade papers...

Seriously, though, there  is a reason for all the HFCS hate. I've got a friend who cut herself off of all fountain drinks and nothing else, and she lost 15 pounds in a month. Just from the fizzy stuff. I tried it, lost only 5 pounds (then again, I never drank a lot of the stuff in the first place - every time I have a soda burp, I can feel the back of my eyes burning). Then you look up how much HFCS is in a lot of things here in America...

/100 pounds in 3 months is impressive, gotta say


The sad thing is is really shouldn't have been impressive but it was.  The years prior when I tried to keep under 1500 cal a day even when my hands shook from low blood sugar, ad worked out every single day, including weekends and holidaysand basically lost 4 ld from 333 to 329...that was hard...  when I watched myself balloon to 370 when I cut back the gym to 3 days a week, that was terrifying.

But Low carbing?  Ridiculously easy.  I ate things I hadn;t eaten in YEARS peanut butter, Cheese, bacon (and contrary to sterotypes at a LOT more veggies, and learend to like broccoli, asparagus, cauliflower, and cabbage which i had hated previously).  and even got so busy the gym was right out most weeks and I still literally had the weight fall off me, at one point 2lbs a day.  And even bfore the wieght dropped off my High BP went down to normal, my airways opened dramatically and my Cholesterol numbers made my doc weep with joy (And this is even though a quick lunch for me those days would be a pair of MCDees double cheeseburgers w/o the bun (prior to which i hadn;t had anything from Mcdonalds in a decade))

and the weight stayed off even after I got complacent and started eating like crap again for a whole decade.   Then last cotober after being diagnosed with advanced type II beetus, I did it again and in 4 months lost another easy 50 and , as far as my doc is concerned basically cured the Beetus (11.0 A1C at Diagnosis  5.1 three months later, and holding there now...though I do take 2mg daily of amaryl as a precaution)
 
2013-09-24 02:19:13 PM

rikkitikkitavi: Aigoo: Because it's freakin normal and natural for a large portion of children to carry that 'baby fat' for years. My cousins, nieces and nephews did until they were about 10-12.

Have you ever been around a child? Good God, I hope you were trolling with that, because I refuse to believe anyone could be that f*cking stupid.

"Baby fat" is usually gone in active children by 3-4 years of age.  I have three kids, and all were lean and athletic by 3. Of the 17 children that live on our street all under the age of 12, there is one age 8 that is still fat.  And he will always be fat. Because his father is fat.  And they eat like shiat.  It's not "babyfat."


I should clarify... the folds/rolls of visible baby fat should be gone.  That said, the mass of a child is mostly fat, and not muscle.  But they shouldn't appear fat at all.  That's a lack of activity.
 
2013-09-24 02:19:15 PM

rikkitikkitavi: Aigoo: Because it's freakin normal and natural for a large portion of children to carry that 'baby fat' for years. My cousins, nieces and nephews did until they were about 10-12.

Have you ever been around a child? Good God, I hope you were trolling with that, because I refuse to believe anyone could be that f*cking stupid.

"Baby fat" is usually gone in active children by 3-4 years of age.  I have three kids, and all were lean and athletic by 3. Of the 17 children that live on our street all under the age of 12, there is one age 8 that is still fat.  And he will always be fat. Because his father is fat.  And they eat like shiat.  It's not "babyfat."


You can tell the difference between an active kid still carrying fat stores that'll be gone in puberty and a fat kid who eats shiat.

Give me a farking break.

And I was referring to calling CPS on a TWO YEAR OLD.

Because that is the height of idiocy right there. But hey, you don't mind having CPS called on you for your two year old having baby fat rolls? Fine by me. Not my problem.
 
2013-09-24 02:19:21 PM
That writer and is inane and moronic views is precisely why I've stopped visiting CNN on a daily basis like I used to. Now I just come straight to Fark.
 
2013-09-24 02:20:57 PM

CleanAndPure: For the vast majority of people bmi works.

Yes extreme athletes will off the chart.


Regarding weight lifters and NFL players...

Most of them are fat! Yeah they have muscles too... but are you seriously suggesting NFL players aren't covered in lots of blubber too?

Should call it armoured "American sumo wrestling with a rubber egg"... not "american football".

Yes... sumo wrestlers have to have muscles too.


NFL... fat.
Baseball... beer bellied pussies.


Now hockey players, basketball players... you'll never find them over 25 bmi.

Stop using lardarse NFL players as an excuse... unless you're Arnie 20 years ago... if you are over 25 bmi you are probably fat.
(Over 6ft and 220lbs... so don't say you are 250lbs of muscle anyone... you're not... if you are 250lbs you have excess fat)

Doesn't mean you can't be healthy... health and fat are related but not mutually exclusive.


Face it deniers... you are all fatty fat heads.


with BMIs of over 26 both of these men are overweight and knocking on the door of Obese according to the BMI"
www.naturalheightgrowth.com
 
2013-09-24 02:22:19 PM
From his look, the photographer was probably dangling a piece of delicious bacon next to the camera when he snapped the picture:
i2.cdn.turner.com

Hopefully he was able to escape with all fingers intact.
 
2013-09-24 02:23:35 PM
Personally I love the asshats who pop off with "just eat HEALTHY", as if there aren't about a billion different voices all telling you conflicting shiat about what is or isn't  healthy.

Everything that I grew up with as a kid has been declared unhealthy, then healthy again at least twice in my lifetime.  You can eat a diet that's perfectly "healthy", but completely wrong for your system and never farking know except all your life you'll blame yourself for never losing weight.  Even back in the days when food was all natural straight from the farm and every daily task involved incredible amounts of physical labor, people still managed to get fat.

Then there's going to be all the people who are shocked SHOCKED when the kids getting these fat shame letters grow up with some seriously farked up eating disorders.  Then there's going to be the developmental problems caused by some well meaning mom who cuts fat out of her preschooler's diet because of one of these fat letters, because guess what your body requires fat to function and for brain development.  We've already seen some vegan families that have done this exact thing!

Here's a truth people don't mention too often, the human body is designed to get fat.  The human body WANTS to be fat, because it's a farking survival mechanism we've relied on for the last million years or so to get through famines.
 
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