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(Bloomberg)   Doctors are preparing for the massive influx of patients once Obamacare goes into full effect. "It's like we're handing out bus tickets and the bus is already full"   (bloomberg.com) divider line 31
    More: Obvious, obamacare, American Academy of Family Physicians, Holy Cross, Medicine study, San Francisco General Hospital, Commonwealth Fund, George Washington University in Washington, health law  
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2013-09-24 10:02:13 AM
6 votes:

Weaver95: QueenMamaBee: grinding_journalist: James!: Sounds like a good time to go to medical school.

Did you miss the part in all the articles discussing the rollout where they say doctor fees are going to be a percentage of what they are for medicare patients? And the part where medicare pays about 25-50% of private insurance?

So, sure go to med school if you want to be a "government doctor" and be in debt till you're 50.

Do you know what hospitals and doctors actually CHARGE? What they get reimbursed, whether by private insurance or medicare is actually pretty fair. Then the provider gets to write off the rest and claim it on their taxes.

/$15 for a fingerstick glucose, at least at this hospital
//$200 for tylenol is not unheard of
///slashies in threes

Wasn't there something about saline solution costing $500 a bag?


Well, in all fairness, the saline solution was harvested from the sweet tears of the pre-exisitng condition uninsured.
2013-09-24 09:23:42 AM
5 votes:
Sorry assholes, we're fresh out of health care!
2013-09-24 09:40:20 AM
3 votes:
So doctors are expecting Obamacare will cause many more people to get sick? Thanks, Obama
2013-09-24 09:29:10 AM
3 votes:

Bareefer Obonghit: Sorry assholes, we're fresh out of health care!


yeah, let them use the emergency room as a doctor and let us pay for it when they can't! it's worked so well before! besides, preventative care is for pussies, amirite!
2013-09-24 09:21:09 AM
3 votes:
How dare these people go see a doctor.
2013-09-24 12:28:27 PM
2 votes:

Nabb1: James!: Sounds like a good time to go to medical school.

Oh, sure, but it's hard to attract students to residencies in family medicine because the average pay compared to other specialties is horrendously low, and that creates a problem with costly medical school loans. Increasing costs in malpractice premiums over the years have hit specialties like family medicine and pediatrics hard due to the fact that those areas aren't high paying to begin with. The fact is that becoming a primary care physician has been fairly unattractive for a number of years, and this isn't likely to improve that. Thankfully, we have doctors and other healthcare professionals in my family, so we can always get in through the back door in a pinch.


"Backdoor doctor's 3: All in the Family Practice"
2013-09-24 10:18:06 AM
2 votes:
Maybe all the doctors in the hospital emergency rooms treating sore throats can help out with the extra workload.
2013-09-24 10:12:02 AM
2 votes:
There will always be doctors available just like in other countries. What will happen is all the #1 best doctors in the entire world who come work in the U.S. because they get top dollar will simply move to another that doesn't have socialized medicine.  For developed nations that leaves, hrrmm, Belarus I guess. So start planning your move now before housing costs skyrocket once all the 1%'ers move there.
2013-09-24 09:41:11 AM
2 votes:

FlashHarry: Bareefer Obonghit: Sorry assholes, we're fresh out of health care!

yeah, let them use the emergency room as a doctor and let us pay for it when they can't! it's worked so well before! besides, preventative care is for pussies, amirite!


All those sick people are just a drain on society anyways. The true ayn randian followers of Jesus know that the strong survive and the weak shall perish because THAT'S how the god of peace and love works gotdamnit! Jesus is gonna mercy the shiat outta the sick and poor, that's what he's gonna do!
2013-09-24 09:40:19 AM
2 votes:

UberDave: "It's like we're handing out bus tickets and the bus is already full"

Sounds like they need a double dutch bus...

/Wizzo, izzay, izzle in da zouble dizzutch...


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2013-09-24 09:39:25 AM
2 votes:
Riding in the bus to the hospital and the place was pretty packed
Couldn't find a seat so I had to stand with the sickies in the back
It was smelling like a 'mergency room, there was blood all over the floor
We're already packed in like sardines and we're stopping to pick up more.....

/apologies to Weird Al
2013-09-24 11:26:23 AM
1 votes:

grinding_journalist: James!: Sounds like a good time to go to medical school.

Did you miss the part in all the articles discussing the rollout where they say doctor fees are going to be a percentage of what they are for medicare patients? And the part where medicare pays about 25-50% of private insurance?

So, sure go to med school if you want to be a "government doctor" and be in debt till you're 50.


Yeah I have relatives that say that same thing.  They are both doctors and they complain that health care reform will mean that it will no longer be worth it to go to medical school.  Sometimes they say that in their mansion.  Sometimes it's at their summer house on the lake or maybe it's at their place in Florida.  They probably say it on their yacht but it's hard to hear them above the noise of all the other boats and sports cars they own.  I feel bad for future doctors.  They will probably have to get by on less then a million a year.
2013-09-24 11:18:30 AM
1 votes:

QueenMamaBee: The more you eat the more you fart: I work in healthcare..so getting a kick...


99% of the crap you hear about obamacare farking up heathcare is just that...crap.

THIS

It seems to me that more of the people we see actually having insurance is a good thing.


Yeah, heaven forbid any of us healthy, relatively wealthy people should be inconvenienced by a crush of people in need of health care that has been beyond reach.

Sounds absolutely horrible too, with clinics having to hire more people to deal with all that extra business. This is going to screw everything up.
2013-09-24 10:43:58 AM
1 votes:

Kit Fister: doyner: So which country's system do you think works best?

I don't know, from my experience every country's healthcare system has snafus that affect care.


Plus in other countries all the doctors hung it up and became garbage men.
2013-09-24 10:28:28 AM
1 votes:

nobodycaneatfiftyeggs: randomjsa: I know things like "reality" are really hard for some of you to accept but the consequences of saying "screw the reality, we're moving forward no matter what" are going to be pretty significant.

What you think "is fair" and what "will actually give the best results" are not always the same thing.

Okay. Educate me.  What will actually give the best results?


eugenics.
2013-09-24 10:22:29 AM
1 votes:

This text is now purple: doyner: But at least now everyone will see the root of the problem: that our society has accepted a system that puts cash over well-being.

They tend to work better than systems that claim to put well-being over cash. As cash is only a proxy for a good or service of value, without "cash", you have no means of control over your well-being.

So which do you want, your well-being, or someone else's idea of your well-being?

Now consider that most people are like farkers.


Which is why we have moderators...for everyone's well being.  Obamacare is turning our system into Fark.  What we had was 4chan.
2013-09-24 10:11:31 AM
1 votes:

doyner: OK. And? Won't the Free MarketTM adjust to the new demand for supply?


The Free Market is pushing smart motivated people into other more lucrative professions. Why spend all that time going to school to work for the government when you can become a lawyer or work in finance and make much more money?
2013-09-24 10:03:04 AM
1 votes:

HotWingConspiracy: Isn't this a good problem to have?


No. When you have a massive increase in number of patients vs. doctors, you have two problems: 1. The wait time for care gets longer. 2. The amount of time the doctor has to spend with each patient to properly diagnose an issue decreases.

As a subset of item 2, you also increase the workload and the chance of mistaken diagnosis, improper prescription of medication, and unnecessary medical procedures that result in issues for patients.

I want people to have health care, but we need to also help get more doctors into the system to offset the increased load.
2013-09-24 10:01:58 AM
1 votes:

grinding_journalist: James!: Sounds like a good time to go to medical school.

Did you miss the part in all the articles discussing the rollout where they say doctor fees are going to be a percentage of what they are for medicare patients? And the part where medicare pays about 25-50% of private insurance?

So, sure go to med school if you want to be a "government doctor" and be in debt till you're 50.


I totally forgot how doctors in other countries are practically slaves to the government.
2013-09-24 10:00:59 AM
1 votes:

QueenMamaBee: The more you eat the more you fart: I work in healthcare..so getting a kick...


99% of the crap you hear about obamacare farking up heathcare is just that...crap.

THIS

It seems to me that more of the people we see actually having insurance is a good thing.

My die-hard Republican CEO* doesn't agree.

*whose practices have us under investigation by the DOJ


Im an advanced-practice nurse, or N.P.

All the nurses I know are happy about this...np's or not.

Why? Because we make a living helping people...and Obamacare will mean fewer needless/pointless deaths from diseases that could have been treated or managed if the person had access to help.

If you are against poor people getting free medical care or free food...you are sub-human imo and should die.

Just because they are poor and someone else isnt, but is a narcissistic greedy bastard doesnt mean people should starve or die of an abcessed tooth. Thankfully, there are enough non-republicans to help balance the "me me me im an entitled selfish prick" attitude that the majority of conservatives have regarding the poor.
2013-09-24 09:51:15 AM
1 votes:

heavymetal: Carn: How dare these people go see a doctor.

Yeah seriously, what farking nerve.

It's almost if some people do not want a class of low wage workers with unhealthy lifestyles, minimul education, and who die at an early enough age to where  they do not need long-term senior care; but are sick enough to lose their life savings to creditors because of medical debts.


But how did they get to be in the class of low wage workers with unhealthy lifestyles and minimal education?  I would say many of them made poor choices.

/or Ronald Regan farked them over.
2013-09-24 09:44:44 AM
1 votes:

HotWingConspiracy: Isn't this a good problem to have?


No.

Apparently you don't understand how important I am. See... I'm a farking snowflake.

Any inconvenience to me and mine is completely unacceptable.
Any change being required on my part or by the incredibly flawed system I've convinced myself is perfect is criminal.

All those 'other' people can burn in hell. They aren't 'Real Americans' anyways.
2013-09-24 09:41:15 AM
1 votes:
I know things like "reality" are really hard for some of you to accept but the consequences of saying "screw the reality, we're moving forward no matter what" are going to be pretty significant.

What you think "is fair" and what "will actually give the best results" are not always the same thing.
2013-09-24 09:41:06 AM
1 votes:
Pre-existing humans aren't covered.
PSYCH!
2013-09-24 09:38:55 AM
1 votes:

FlashHarry: Bareefer Obonghit: Sorry assholes, we're fresh out of health care!

yeah, let them use the emergency room as a doctor and let us pay for it when they can't! it's worked so well before! besides, preventative care is for pussies, amirite!


Emergency room? What kind of pussy uses an emergency room? The poors can just rub some dirt on it and pray for healing like True American Patriots always did before Traitorbama!
2013-09-24 09:38:53 AM
1 votes:
If you're passing out condoms and superglue labeled as lube, I'm all for it.
2013-09-24 09:38:45 AM
1 votes:
Y2K was supposed to be gnarly too.
2013-09-24 09:31:45 AM
1 votes:
"It's like we're handing out bus tickets and the bus is already full"

Sounds like they need a double dutch bus...

/Wizzo, izzay, izzle in da zouble dizzutch...
2013-09-24 09:00:16 AM
1 votes:
Republican Jesus no doubt wants these people to crawl back in their holes and die quietly out of sight. Oh, and let's cut food stamps and give the rich another tax break, because why the f*ck not right?
2013-09-24 08:59:38 AM
1 votes:
I needs me some free baindaids and oxyconton.!!
Fo mah babbydaddy.
2013-09-24 08:54:29 AM
1 votes:
Exactly. What the government should say in a situation like that is, "Sorry, farkers, guess you losers should have bought a bus ticket a long time ago, huh? Nyah."
 
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