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2013-09-24 07:49:37 PM

bestie1: An ending with Vogel being the real source of Dexter'ss problems would have been satisfying but it would have left open a big plot hole around Dexter's brother the ice cream truck killer


this, plus in a season where a really big complaint is that Dexter is never held responsible for his action, I think saying that Dexter was intentionally molded this way* is yet another form of absolving Dexter of responsibility.


*maybe I missed something, but I still don't recall that that was what Vogel did to Dexter. I recall her introducing the concept of the code as a way to channel Dexter's homicidal tendencies before they went haywire (see: Zach), but not that she influenced that desire.
 
2013-09-24 07:59:07 PM
For what it's worth, I would be open to watching a series where Hannah is a fugitive and raising Harrison.  I think I'm in the minority, but I liked the Hannah character a lot more this season than I did previously.
 
2013-09-24 08:28:30 PM
My dumbass theory was that Dexter was also Saxon (yeah I know they did that before) and that split personality was the only way he could rid himself of the dark passenger... so all that stuff about DP being gone wasn't true so he suicided one way or the other once he realized it.
I had some other theories too, but not one came up "lumberjack".
 
2013-09-24 08:50:01 PM

jj325: For what it's worth, I would be open to watching a series where Hannah is a fugitive and raising Harrison.  I think I'm in the minority, but I liked the Hannah character a lot more this season than I did previously.


You mean Miss "My face was all over the news and the Federal Marshalls and bounty hunters are after me but I am going to walk around in a sun dress and no disguise"? Not to mention her and Dexter had no chemestry, and Harrison had no reason to like her, let alone love her like he claims. I could see the little afterthought feeling that way about Jamie, but not about Hannah.
 
2013-09-24 09:38:06 PM

jj325: I think I'm in the minority, but I liked the Hannah character a lot more this season than I did previously.


I liked her last season, though I thought her story was a bit underplayed by the writers. I think they completely botched her reintroduction this season though. I'm not really sure I saw the point in temporarily making her disappear.
 
2013-09-24 10:47:10 PM

FeedTheCollapse: jj325: I think I'm in the minority, but I liked the Hannah character a lot more this season than I did previously.

I liked her last season, though I thought her story was a bit underplayed by the writers. I think they completely botched her reintroduction this season though. I'm not really sure I saw the point in temporarily making her disappear.


She was the best thing about the season. Not because her character was any good, just because the actress is in my top 5 celebrities I wish I could plow.
 
2013-09-24 11:24:38 PM

yukichigai: ShadowKamui: I think one of the failed sub plots this season was that Dexter wasn't actually a psycho and Vogel screwed him up with the code.

As someone else posted in another thread, if they had actually taken that plot point and run with it the ending could have been glorious.  Vogel's misunderstanding of Dexter stems from her projecting the condition of her dead-she-thought son Saxon onto most of the possible psychopaths she meets.  That wouldn't have just explained Dexter and how he could be "healed by love" (blegh), but why there were so many serial killers in Miami: it's Vogel misdiagnosing people other than Dexter.

Instead of Saxon being the big bad, it should have been Vogel.  The series finale could have been Dex realizing that Vogel has been warping children into pseudo-psychopaths like him for years... and realizing that all the kills he's done, Harry's suicide, making Deb shoot LaGuerta, and quite a few other things NEVER would have happened if Harry had just gone to a competent psychologist rather than one still obsessed with the apparent suicide of her psychopath son.  His last kill could have been Vogel, and the pictures in the room all of the previous big bad serial killers, including Brian Moser.  Hell, imagine that drama, Dexter standing over Vogel screaming, "YOU MADE ME!  YOU MADE. ME KILL. MY OWN BROTHER."

The rest could have happened: Deb dying, Masouka's daughter and her going nowhere, Quinn and the rest of Miami Metro continuing to be dumb about the serial killer working in their department.  Even the lumberjacking could have happened, only now it would make sense since Dexter realizes he isn't truly a psychopath and doesn't need to spend the rest of his life with a serial killer.  That finale would have been amazing.


I agree with your thoughts about Vogel, as not all psychopaths kill.  Instead, Vogel was the puppeteer psychopath.  Her own son was the only psychopath she couldn't control like she thought she could, but then again he was the only psychopath she didn't help develop.  The biggest hint to me was her stating Dex couldn't possibly love, since all people has to fit her categories.  Real psychologists are warned to not categorize people by hard rules.  Instead, people may fit partly in any part of many categories to fully describe that individual.  Dex loved, and the weird part, he empathized with many of his targets.  He used their thoughts and actions as ways of seeing and understanding himself.  He even empathized with Saxon, and that is why he exiled himself.  If Saxon could slash Vogel's throat after all those years and effort to reconnect with his mother, then what could Dex do to his own son and Hannah.  Deb's death really sunk that fear in for him.  He can't kill himself because his survival instincts is set too high, but maybe placing himself in a place where nature could take him out gives him the sense that if he dies, then it was meant to be.  The storm failed to do the job.

/yes, the ending sucked with the subplots being left in the fridge to rot unfinished.
//what do you expect from show where a whole police force is too dumb to find a donut shop, only Dex knew where to get donuts and solve crime
 
2013-09-25 01:02:01 AM

jj325: For what it's worth, I would be open to watching a series where Hannah is a fugitive and raising Harrison.  I think I'm in the minority, but I liked the Hannah character a lot more this season than I did previously.


I liked her before in the previous season.  I thought it was farking tragic that Deb couldn't excuse Hannah for the people she had killed, or at least found some way to have Hannah "make it up to her" that didn't involve ruining Dexter's future.  Her and Dexter really were perfect for each other: both killers, one by necessity, the other compelled to do so, understanding of each other and able to open up completely.

To be fair though, I'd really hoped that some day Deb could have filled that role for Dexter, and I think before the two actors got married and then divorced that was the plan.  Deb and Dex were two sides of the "Good" coin, him Chaotic Good, her Lawful Good.  They complimented each other rather well.  But in the absence of that Hannah was a wonderful companion for Dexter.
 
2013-09-25 09:12:19 AM
If Dexter was going to change his appearance and move to the Pacific Northwest, he should have become a pierced and tatted chef working in one of the lesser-known but creative food stalls in Portland. That way his knife skills would fit right in and wearing surgical gloves all the time would be a passable way to prevent his fingerprints from getting out there without going back into police or medical work.

Breaking Bad should end with Walt killing everyone, getting his money back and using it to pay for radical new treatments from an unlicensed researcher which destroy his cancer, then him patching things up with his family and on his birthday the next year having Walt Jr., in a psychotic haze of Heisenberg-grade meth that is flooding the streets and has been transported in everything from oil drums to breakfast cereal boxes, kill him with a cereal spoon.

,,,Or else have Walt work with an unlicensed researcher to cure his cancer and instead invent the Zombie Virus that begets The Walking Dead world. 'Cuz I'd like it if all the AMC dramas were in the same continuity.
 
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