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2013-09-24 09:01:10 AM
The leafers are bullet proof.
 
2013-09-24 09:02:10 AM
Yes, of course it could happen here.

You can stop reading right there.  No, it couldn't.  Kenya is next-door to a country that harbors an army of battle-hardened terrorists.  We aren't.  Shut up, Denis Hamill, you hack.
 
2013-09-24 09:04:34 AM
NYC had better hope that the civies could take care of the issue. If the NYPD shows up to take care of the situation, the body count would likely double or triple.
 
2013-09-24 09:06:28 AM

Arkanaut: Yes, of course it could happen here.

You can stop reading right there.  No, it couldn't.  Kenya is next-door to a country that harbors an army of battle-hardened terrorists.  We aren't.  Shut up, Denis Hamill, you hack.


Are you saying there is no possible way someone could shoot up a mall in America?
 
2013-09-24 09:06:33 AM
That's exactly what they need...another reason to biatch and feel entitled.
 
2013-09-24 09:12:36 AM

MythDragon: Arkanaut: Yes, of course it could happen here.

You can stop reading right there.  No, it couldn't.  Kenya is next-door to a country that harbors an army of battle-hardened terrorists.  We aren't.  Shut up, Denis Hamill, you hack.

Are you saying there is no possible way someone could shoot up a mall in America?


There is no possible way a terrorist group could come into America and hold a mall hostage for four days.
 
2013-09-24 09:13:48 AM
New Yorkers all have guns, right? I've seen a couple of Charles Bronson movies, so I think I know what I'm talking about.
 
2013-09-24 09:16:00 AM

Arkanaut: MythDragon: Arkanaut: Yes, of course it could happen here.

You can stop reading right there.  No, it couldn't.  Kenya is next-door to a country that harbors an army of battle-hardened terrorists.  We aren't.  Shut up, Denis Hamill, you hack.

Are you saying there is no possible way someone could shoot up a mall in America?

There is no possible way a terrorist group could come into America and hold a mall hostage for four days.


You do know that quite a few of the attackers were American right? And that Al Shabaab has been recruiting young muslim kids from the midwest to fight for them? Yeah, let me tell you how easy it would be for a couple of crates of full-auto AKs and ammo to come state-side and get into the hands of those kids. Very. Goddamned. Easy.
 
2013-09-24 09:22:10 AM

untaken_name: New Yorkers all have guns, right? I've seen a couple of Charles Bronson movies, so I think I know what I'm talking about.


The terrorists have a Death Wish?
 
2013-09-24 09:23:28 AM

tallen702: Arkanaut: MythDragon: Arkanaut: Yes, of course it could happen here.

You can stop reading right there.  No, it couldn't.  Kenya is next-door to a country that harbors an army of battle-hardened terrorists.  We aren't.  Shut up, Denis Hamill, you hack.

Are you saying there is no possible way someone could shoot up a mall in America?

There is no possible way a terrorist group could come into America and hold a mall hostage for four days.

You do know that quite a few of the attackers were American right? And that Al Shabaab has been recruiting young muslim kids from the midwest to fight for them? Yeah, let me tell you how easy it would be for a couple of crates of full-auto AKs and ammo to come state-side and get into the hands of those kids. Very. Goddamned. Easy.


I think you're missing a crucial part of his assertion.
 
2013-09-24 09:27:04 AM

kitsuneymg: tallen702: Arkanaut: MythDragon: Arkanaut: Yes, of course it could happen here.

You can stop reading right there.  No, it couldn't.  Kenya is next-door to a country that harbors an army of battle-hardened terrorists.  We aren't.  Shut up, Denis Hamill, you hack.

Are you saying there is no possible way someone could shoot up a mall in America?

There is no possible way a terrorist group could come into America and hold a mall hostage for four days.

You do know that quite a few of the attackers were American right? And that Al Shabaab has been recruiting young muslim kids from the midwest to fight for them? Yeah, let me tell you how easy it would be for a couple of crates of full-auto AKs and ammo to come state-side and get into the hands of those kids. Very. Goddamned. Easy.

I think you're missing a crucial part of his assertion.


I think you're overestimating the willingness of LEOs and Military to enter booby-trapped areas.  Then you'd have to consider the politics.  You KNOW someone would 'explore' the option of negotiating.
 
2013-09-24 09:29:10 AM

tallen702: Arkanaut: MythDragon: Arkanaut: Yes, of course it could happen here.

You can stop reading right there.  No, it couldn't.  Kenya is next-door to a country that harbors an army of battle-hardened terrorists.  We aren't.  Shut up, Denis Hamill, you hack.

Are you saying there is no possible way someone could shoot up a mall in America?

There is no possible way a terrorist group could come into America and hold a mall hostage for four days.

You do know that quite a few of the attackers were American right? And that Al Shabaab has been recruiting young muslim kids from the midwest to fight for them? Yeah, let me tell you how easy it would be for a couple of crates of full-auto AKs and ammo to come state-side and get into the hands of those kids. Very. Goddamned. Easy.


So if they're American, why did they go all the way across the world to execute a terrorist attack?
 
2013-09-24 09:30:35 AM

Arkanaut: There is no possible way a terrorist group could come into America and hold a mall hostage for four days.


It seems to me entirely feasible that a crowd could be corralled and held at gunpoint in a busy mall. The length of the siege would depend heavily on the willingness of law enforcement to sacrifice that crowd.
 
2013-09-24 09:40:41 AM

FarkinNortherner: Arkanaut: There is no possible way a terrorist group could come into America and hold a mall hostage for four days.

It seems to me entirely feasible that a crowd could be corralled and held at gunpoint in a busy mall. The length of the siege would depend heavily on the willingness of law enforcement to sacrifice that crowd.


Didn't two stoners hold the city of Boston hostage for about two days?
 
2013-09-24 09:42:44 AM

symptomoftheuniverse: FarkinNortherner: Arkanaut: There is no possible way a terrorist group could come into America and hold a mall hostage for four days.

It seems to me entirely feasible that a crowd could be corralled and held at gunpoint in a busy mall. The length of the siege would depend heavily on the willingness of law enforcement to sacrifice that crowd.

Didn't two stoners hold the city of Boston hostage for about two days?


Metaphorically, maybe.
 
2013-09-24 09:45:41 AM
I for one haven't let my children anywhere near any type of shopping center, just in case. We'll be purchasing all our supplies and presents and such via the mail. To a P.O. box of course, in case it's a bomb or anthrax so I can open it safe from my children.
 
2013-09-24 09:57:05 AM

Arkanaut: tallen702: Arkanaut: MythDragon: Arkanaut: Yes, of course it could happen here.

You can stop reading right there.  No, it couldn't.  Kenya is next-door to a country that harbors an army of battle-hardened terrorists.  We aren't.  Shut up, Denis Hamill, you hack.

Are you saying there is no possible way someone could shoot up a mall in America?

There is no possible way a terrorist group could come into America and hold a mall hostage for four days.

You do know that quite a few of the attackers were American right? And that Al Shabaab has been recruiting young muslim kids from the midwest to fight for them? Yeah, let me tell you how easy it would be for a couple of crates of full-auto AKs and ammo to come state-side and get into the hands of those kids. Very. Goddamned. Easy.

So if they're American, why did they go all the way across the world to execute a terrorist attack?


Because Al Shabaab's current interest is wresting control of Somalia from secularists and turning it into a new training ground for global terrorism. Kenya and Ethiopia are the two main African nations currently exerting control in Somalia. They are also predominantly Judeo-Christian with secular governments, everything Al Shabaab despises.

That doesn't mean they don't have plans for other places in the world. The woman who was leading this attack was a white English woman whose husband (also English) was responsible for carrying out the 7/7 attacks on the London subway at King's Cross. If you think that you're safe from this kind of thing executed by these people because you live over here, you're dead wrong.
 
2013-09-24 09:59:30 AM

tallen702: Because Al Shabaab's current interest is wresting control of Somalia from secularists and turning it into a new training ground for global terrorism. Kenya and Ethiopia are the two main African nations currently exerting control in Somalia. They are also predominantly Judeo-Christian with secular governments, everything Al Shabaab despises.

That doesn't mean they don't have plans for other places in the world. The woman who was leading this attack was a white English woman whose husband (also English) was responsible for carrying out the 7/7 attacks on the London subway at King's Cross. If you think that you're safe from this kind of thing executed by these people because you live over here, you're dead wrong.


that said, living your life differently 'in case' is madness and what the turrists want
 
2013-09-24 09:59:44 AM

ciderczar: I for one haven't let my children anywhere near any type of shopping center, just in case. We'll be purchasing all our supplies and presents and such via the mail. To a P.O. box of course, in case it's a bomb or anthrax so I can open it safe from my children.


But then you have to go the PO and pick your stuff up, and you run the risk of being shot by an unhinged postal worker.
 
2013-09-24 10:00:13 AM

kitsuneymg: tallen702: Arkanaut: MythDragon: Arkanaut: Yes, of course it could happen here.

You can stop reading right there.  No, it couldn't.  Kenya is next-door to a country that harbors an army of battle-hardened terrorists.  We aren't.  Shut up, Denis Hamill, you hack.

Are you saying there is no possible way someone could shoot up a mall in America?

There is no possible way a terrorist group could come into America and hold a mall hostage for four days.

You do know that quite a few of the attackers were American right? And that Al Shabaab has been recruiting young muslim kids from the midwest to fight for them? Yeah, let me tell you how easy it would be for a couple of crates of full-auto AKs and ammo to come state-side and get into the hands of those kids. Very. Goddamned. Easy.

I think you're missing a crucial part of his assertion.


Nope, I'm not. How long did the WACO stand-off take? How about Ruby Ridge? It took a half-day for the FBI to clear the WNY just the other week and that was against one guy with a shotgun and a pistol. You get 10-15 fanatics armed with automatic weapons and grenades as well as hostages, and it's going to take multiple days if not a full week to wrap it up.
 
2013-09-24 10:02:37 AM

Dwight_Yeast: ciderczar: I for one haven't let my children anywhere near any type of shopping center, just in case. We'll be purchasing all our supplies and presents and such via the mail. To a P.O. box of course, in case it's a bomb or anthrax so I can open it safe from my children.

But then you have to go the PO and pick your stuff up, and you run the risk of being shot by an unhinged postal worker.    in an accident with a texting driver

 
2013-09-24 10:05:09 AM

Lady J: tallen702: Because Al Shabaab's current interest is wresting control of Somalia from secularists and turning it into a new training ground for global terrorism. Kenya and Ethiopia are the two main African nations currently exerting control in Somalia. They are also predominantly Judeo-Christian with secular governments, everything Al Shabaab despises.

That doesn't mean they don't have plans for other places in the world. The woman who was leading this attack was a white English woman whose husband (also English) was responsible for carrying out the 7/7 attacks on the London subway at King's Cross. If you think that you're safe from this kind of thing executed by these people because you live over here, you're dead wrong.

that said, living your life differently 'in case' is madness and what the turrists want


Oh, I can't agree more! It doesn't do anything to me personally than make me glad that I don't live in downtown DC. Living in Baltimore for a while already made me more situationally aware than the common person, but that has less to do with terrorism and more to do with not wanting to get shot/stabbed/murdered for my wallet.

At the same time, it doesn't mean that we should be ignorantly unaware of the possibilities that exist.
 
2013-09-24 10:05:21 AM

Dwight_Yeast: ciderczar: I for one haven't let my children anywhere near any type of shopping center, just in case. We'll be purchasing all our supplies and presents and such via the mail. To a P.O. box of course, in case it's a bomb or anthrax so I can open it safe from my children.

But then you have to go the PO and pick your stuff up, and you run the risk of being shot by an unhinged postal worker.


I never leave the house without my Ned Kelly armor underneath my chem suit.
 
2013-09-24 10:05:58 AM

tallen702: If you think that you're safe from this kind of thing executed by these people because you live over here, you're dead wrong.


Fine, I guess I'll allow for the possibility.  But I'd much rather worry about the things that are more likely to kill me, like a car accident or heart disease.
 
2013-09-24 10:06:33 AM

tallen702: Lady J: tallen702: Because Al Shabaab's current interest is wresting control of Somalia from secularists and turning it into a new training ground for global terrorism. Kenya and Ethiopia are the two main African nations currently exerting control in Somalia. They are also predominantly Judeo-Christian with secular governments, everything Al Shabaab despises.

That doesn't mean they don't have plans for other places in the world. The woman who was leading this attack was a white English woman whose husband (also English) was responsible for carrying out the 7/7 attacks on the London subway at King's Cross. If you think that you're safe from this kind of thing executed by these people because you live over here, you're dead wrong.

that said, living your life differently 'in case' is madness and what the turrists want

Oh, I can't agree more! It doesn't do anything to me personally than make me glad that I don't live in downtown DC. Living in Baltimore for a while already made me more situationally aware than the common person, but that has less to do with terrorism and more to do with not wanting to get shot/stabbed/murdered for my wallet.

At the same time, it doesn't mean that we should be ignorantly unaware of the possibilities that exist.


I'm imagining you walking around like a meerkat. It's adorable.
 
2013-09-24 10:11:43 AM
"There's nothing to fear but fear itself," said Billy Cusack, visiting from Ireland. "When your time is up, it's up. Our New York holiday has been brilliant. And I won't let any terrorist in Africa or anywhere else frighten me."

I will bet you $100 million that this person and his quote were completely made up.
 
2013-09-24 10:16:08 AM
Does anyone remember that series on Discovery Channel, called "Get Out Alive" or something like that?  It gave a plan for getting out of a mall when it is taken over by terrorists.
 
2013-09-24 10:21:56 AM

ciderczar: tallen702: Lady J: tallen702: Because Al Shabaab's current interest is wresting control of Somalia from secularists and turning it into a new training ground for global terrorism. Kenya and Ethiopia are the two main African nations currently exerting control in Somalia. They are also predominantly Judeo-Christian with secular governments, everything Al Shabaab despises.

That doesn't mean they don't have plans for other places in the world. The woman who was leading this attack was a white English woman whose husband (also English) was responsible for carrying out the 7/7 attacks on the London subway at King's Cross. If you think that you're safe from this kind of thing executed by these people because you live over here, you're dead wrong.

that said, living your life differently 'in case' is madness and what the turrists want

Oh, I can't agree more! It doesn't do anything to me personally than make me glad that I don't live in downtown DC. Living in Baltimore for a while already made me more situationally aware than the common person, but that has less to do with terrorism and more to do with not wanting to get shot/stabbed/murdered for my wallet.

At the same time, it doesn't mean that we should be ignorantly unaware of the possibilities that exist.

I'm imagining you walking around like a meerkat. It's adorable.


Whatever floats your boat.
 
2013-09-24 10:41:41 AM
My God, I just realized that I have a mall just down the road.  Should I unlimber all the weapons at my disposal?  What will the neighbors think if I point them all out the windows?
 
2013-09-24 10:56:10 AM

Marcus Aurelius: What will the neighbors think if I point them all out the windows?


They'll know they live next to a brave man who knows to be prepared when malls attack.
 
2013-09-24 11:02:03 AM

halB: Does anyone remember that series on Discovery Channel, called "Get Out Alive" or something like that?  It gave a plan for getting out of a mall when it is taken over by terrorists.


What happens when the terrorist-attacked mall gets surrounded by zombies? What then?
 
2013-09-24 11:08:48 AM
what did I reference that was deleted?

I think I drink too much

nevermind
 
2013-09-24 11:09:36 AM

halB: Does anyone remember that series on Discovery Channel, called "Get Out Alive" or something like that?  It gave a plan for getting out of a mall when it is taken over by terrorists.


You mean "Surviving Disaster"?  Think I still have that whole series saved on the cable box
 
2013-09-24 11:10:42 AM
Americans are soft, stupid and willing targets.
 
2013-09-24 11:26:25 AM
New York's Queens Center Mall is a soft target for terrorists, but city residents refuse to live in fear

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Terrorists!!! Everybody call 911!!!
 
2013-09-24 12:08:32 PM

Arkanaut: Yes, of course it could happen here.

You can stop reading right there.  No, it couldn't.  Kenya is next-door to a country that harbors an army of battle-hardened terrorists.  We aren't.  Shut up, Denis Hamill, you hack.


We have the Mexican cartels next door, those guys are a step away from being a terrorist organization.
 
2013-09-24 12:16:16 PM

Latinwolf: Arkanaut: Yes, of course it could happen here.

You can stop reading right there.  No, it couldn't.  Kenya is next-door to a country that harbors an army of battle-hardened terrorists.  We aren't.  Shut up, Denis Hamill, you hack.

We have the Mexican cartels next door, those guys are a step away from being a terrorist organization.


So what's the worst terrorist attack perpetrated by Mexicans on US soil? Has there been any since Pancho Villa?
 
2013-09-24 01:29:01 PM
  I hope they never get a chance to test that theory but since the Mumbai siege this is gradually becoming the next thing in terrorist attacks as the "hijack a plane to get attention" route dried up after 9/11. Unfortunately given the amount of firepower available in the US it's probably only a matter of time.
 
2013-09-24 02:11:10 PM
I think the funniest part is the concerned comments in the article, people afraid that the article author has exposed a "soft target" for terrorists to attack HAHHAHA
 
2013-09-24 02:16:37 PM
Try it in a mall with a Cabela's.
 
2013-09-24 02:52:29 PM

HypnozombieX:   I hope they never get a chance to test that theory but since the Mumbai siege this is gradually becoming the next thing in terrorist attacks as the "hijack a plane to get attention" route dried up after 9/11. Unfortunately given the amount of firepower available in the US it's probably only a matter of time.


I was actually suprised it hasnt happend yet.
 
2013-09-24 05:01:06 PM
Blithely accepting that there should be nothing but luck standing between themselves and a bloody death at the hands of any maniac who decides today is the day.

Sounds like NY alright.
 
2013-09-24 08:05:47 PM

untaken_name: New Yorkers all have guns, right? I've seen a couple of Charles Bronson movies, so I think I know what I'm talking about.


zillionmall.com

And don't sell Denis Hamill short either.  He served six years in the Core, including two tours of the Delta: it ain't nothin' for him ta whup a man's ass now.
 
2013-09-24 08:12:30 PM

Arkanaut: Latinwolf: Arkanaut: Yes, of course it could happen here.

You can stop reading right there.  No, it couldn't.  Kenya is next-door to a country that harbors an army of battle-hardened terrorists.  We aren't.  Shut up, Denis Hamill, you hack.

We have the Mexican cartels next door, those guys are a step away from being a terrorist organization.

So what's the worst terrorist attack perpetrated by Mexicans on US soil? Has there been any since Pancho Villa?


Yes, but you don't really hear about it outside the border towns for some reason.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=US+border+violence
 
2013-09-24 08:32:27 PM

untaken_name: Arkanaut: Latinwolf: Arkanaut: Yes, of course it could happen here.

You can stop reading right there.  No, it couldn't.  Kenya is next-door to a country that harbors an army of battle-hardened terrorists.  We aren't.  Shut up, Denis Hamill, you hack.

We have the Mexican cartels next door, those guys are a step away from being a terrorist organization.

So what's the worst terrorist attack perpetrated by Mexicans on US soil? Has there been any since Pancho Villa?

Yes, but you don't really hear about it outside the border towns for some reason.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=US+border+violence


Man, I'm not saying there's no violence in the US.  But to compare it to an impoverished Third World nation in one of the most war-torn parts of the world is just irresponsible.
 
2013-09-24 10:39:10 PM

Arkanaut: Man, I'm not saying there's no violence in the US. But to compare it to an impoverished Third World nation in one of the most war-torn parts of the world is just irresponsible.


Spend some time in Texas border towns. Then you will be singing a different tune. I seriously don't understand why it isn't bigger news - there have been mortar attacks, rpgs, fully-automatic rifles are used constantly, all that crap, and yet some guy leaving a pistol in a bathroom is bigger news. It's baffling.
 
2013-09-24 10:39:30 PM

Clemkadidlefark: Americans are soft, stupid and willing targets.


I was at a meeting tonight and the subject of concealed carry came up.
/unbelievable numbers of people you'd never suspect have CCW - at least around here - grandmas, preachers, and so on.

It was surprising.
 
2013-09-25 11:46:26 AM

Arkanaut: untaken_name: Arkanaut: Latinwolf: Arkanaut: Yes, of course it could happen here.

You can stop reading right there.  No, it couldn't.  Kenya is next-door to a country that harbors an army of battle-hardened terrorists.  We aren't.  Shut up, Denis Hamill, you hack.

We have the Mexican cartels next door, those guys are a step away from being a terrorist organization.

So what's the worst terrorist attack perpetrated by Mexicans on US soil? Has there been any since Pancho Villa?

Yes, but you don't really hear about it outside the border towns for some reason.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=US+border+violence

Man, I'm not saying there's no violence in the US.  But to compare it to an impoverished Third World nation in one of the most war-torn parts of the world is just irresponsible.


You must live in a gated community.
 
2013-09-25 11:52:00 AM

Latinwolf: Arkanaut: untaken_name: Arkanaut: Latinwolf: Arkanaut: Yes, of course it could happen here.

You can stop reading right there.  No, it couldn't.  Kenya is next-door to a country that harbors an army of battle-hardened terrorists.  We aren't.  Shut up, Denis Hamill, you hack.

We have the Mexican cartels next door, those guys are a step away from being a terrorist organization.

So what's the worst terrorist attack perpetrated by Mexicans on US soil? Has there been any since Pancho Villa?

Yes, but you don't really hear about it outside the border towns for some reason.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=US+border+violence

Man, I'm not saying there's no violence in the US.  But to compare it to an impoverished Third World nation in one of the most war-torn parts of the world is just irresponsible.

You must live in a gated community.


I live in Queens, NY, the subject of TFA.
 
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